OT: Win7 Make Desktop Classic ???

On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 12:58:09 -0700, John Larkin
<jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

>My old 16-bit apps don't work, no great loss.

"Install and use Windows XP Mode in Windows 7"
<http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/install-and-use-windows-xp-mode-in-windows-7>
There are other Virtual Machines available that methinks are better.
I'm partial to Virtual Box from Oracle:
<https://www.virtualbox.org>
and have VM's installed for SCO OSR5, Win 3.1, and OS/2 (for reading
one lousy Mercedes Benz shop manual).

I also run old DOS programs under DOSbox:
<http://www.dosbox.com>
However, I recommend one of the spinoff versions instead:
<http://ykhwong.x-y.net>
You can install both on the same machine, but it didn't take long for
me to get totally confused. I'm also having problems printing on
64bit machines via DOSbox, but haven't had time to troubleshoot.

--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
 
In article <htq4ua58dtpbg5cm6qc8h4ft1a817enoml@4ax.com>, DLU1
@DecadentLinuxUser.org says...
On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 18:39:51 -0700, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> Gave us:

That sounds complex.

For you, even opening a VDM would get listed by you as difficult.

I'm trying to keep this Dell W7 machine as clean
and simple as possible.

For you, that isn't hard at all. After all, you get others to do so
many things for you.
Click to expand...

I call that being smart, something you are not attuned with.

Jamie
 
On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 22:26:36 -0400, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno
<DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> wrote:

On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 17:04:06 -0700, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> Gave us:

I designed this, and did the PCB layout, in a weekend.


Something tells me that you used a lot of previously laid out
segments.
Click to expand...

No. This one was new, schematic and layout. It worked first time.

Oh, and you did the layout in a weekend.... maybe. But you didn't
start from concept and get art done in a single weekend.
Click to expand...

But I did. I didn't Gerber it; The Brat does that part.
 
On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 17:04:06 -0700, John Larkin
<jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> Gave us:

Why would I do routine PC stuff when I can hire someone to do it for
me? There's nothing interesting about cloning hard drives. I don't
vacuum the carpets, either.
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Setting up a desktop for classic XP look and feel IS a "routine",
trivial, mundane task, dumbshit.

No, you don't vacuum the carpets... you just spew shit all over them
as you traipse your stupid ass through your pathetic life.
 
On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 15:34:41 -0700, Jim Thompson
<To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> Gave us:

Is there a TweakUI for Win7 ?

...Jim Thompson
--
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Wow... that's so ten+ years ago.

I am getting old. That is so long ago I can't even remember what
things I used it to tweak. Getting old as in can't remember, but should
be able to.. It was a long damn time ago though.
 
On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 18:39:51 -0700, John Larkin
<jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> Gave us:

>That sounds complex.

For you, even opening a VDM would get listed by you as difficult.

I'm trying to keep this Dell W7 machine as clean
and simple as possible.
Click to expand...

For you, that isn't hard at all. After all, you get others to do so
many things for you.
 
On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 22:49:04 -0400, M Philbrook
<jamie_ka1lpa@charter.net> wrote:

In article <htq4ua58dtpbg5cm6qc8h4ft1a817enoml@4ax.com>, DLU1
@DecadentLinuxUser.org says...

On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 18:39:51 -0700, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> Gave us:

That sounds complex.

For you, even opening a VDM would get listed by you as difficult.

I'm trying to keep this Dell W7 machine as clean
and simple as possible.

For you, that isn't hard at all. After all, you get others to do so
many things for you.

I call that being smart, something you are not attuned with.

Jamie
Click to expand...

Even if you can make a ton of money working alone, as some consultants
can, it's more fun to have other people around, to work on things
together.

Consultants don't get paid vacation!
 
On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 22:35:39 -0400, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno
<DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> wrote:

On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 18:39:51 -0700, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> Gave us:

That sounds complex.

For you, even opening a VDM would get listed by you as difficult.

I'm trying to keep this Dell W7 machine as clean
and simple as possible.

For you, that isn't hard at all. After all, you get others to do so
many things for you.
Click to expand...

Absolutely. We have engineers, assemblers, programmers, PC layout,
purchasing, shipping/receiving, business people. They do lots of
things better than I can. It's more fun that way.

Do you own a 1-man company? Do everything yourself?
 
In article <d4eectF1llqU1@mid.individual.net>,
news@analogconsultants.com says...
On 2015-08-29 12:03 PM, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 11:27:43 -0700, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

OK... The important part... how do I make Win7 the desktop look like
it did in WinXP ?:-}

...Jim Thompson


Win7 lets you select a classic desktop, get rid of the hideous Aero
look, and de-consolidate the thingies in the tray at the bottom.

Then install Classic Shell to fix Explorer windows.


I didn't have to install anything for that. Forgot how I exactly did it
but I think it was like this:

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-desktop/how-to-change-the-display-setting-to-windows/b2bfa391-79d0-4051-a843-ff099f05757d

The whole PC now looks like an NT era computer which is just what I
wanted. Of course, assuming Jim has 64-bit Win 7 Pro like I do he'll run
into all sorts of other nasty issues soon. Software not working right
anymore, weird lockups, and so on. Windows has been greatly dumbed down :-(
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my W7-64 runs perfect so far, I have run all kinds of old stuff on it.

I had to hunt down a driver for my Dlink Serial adapter for 64 bit
mode, I found one and that works.

Btw, Dlink does not make a driver for this however, others have
written drivers for the same chip, works great in 64 bit mode

Jamie
 
On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 17:04:06 -0700, John Larkin
<jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> Gave us:

I designed this, and did the PCB layout, in a weekend.
Click to expand...

Something tells me that you used a lot of previously laid out
segments.

Oh, and you did the layout in a weekend.... maybe. But you didn't
start from concept and get art done in a single weekend.

I call bullshit.
 
On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 20:27:34 -0400, Martin Riddle
<martin_rid@verizon.net> Gave us:

BTW, other than the latest Catalyst ATI
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NVidia trounces ATI.

I used to buy their "All-in-wonder" cards, but haven't tuned a TV
analog signal in years. Their shit is lame now. And they are always
trying to keep up with NVidia and failing at it. That card likely
raises your chassis cabinet temp 15 degrees more than normal.
 
On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 18:21:04 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote:

On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 12:58:09 -0700, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

My old 16-bit apps don't work, no great loss.

"Install and use Windows XP Mode in Windows 7"
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/install-and-use-windows-xp-mode-in-windows-7
There are other Virtual Machines available that methinks are better.
Click to expand...

That sounds complex. I'm trying to keep this Dell W7 machine as clean
and simple as possible.

I'm partial to Virtual Box from Oracle:
https://www.virtualbox.org
and have VM's installed for SCO OSR5, Win 3.1, and OS/2 (for reading
one lousy Mercedes Benz shop manual).

I also run old DOS programs under DOSbox:
http://www.dosbox.com
However, I recommend one of the spinoff versions instead:
http://ykhwong.x-y.net
You can install both on the same machine, but it didn't take long for
me to get totally confused. I'm also having problems printing on
64bit machines via DOSbox, but haven't had time to troubleshoot.
Click to expand...

The only 16-bit things that I might still run were written in
PowerBasic, the DOS version. I've converted a few of them to the
32-bit PBCC (the 32-bit PB Console Compiler) which isn't hard and
seems to work fine under 64-bit Win7.
 
On 30/08/2015 5:06 AM, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno wrote:
On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 11:27:43 -0700, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> Gave us:

OK... The important part... how do I make Win7 the desktop look like
it did in WinXP ?:-}

...Jim Thompson

It is unimportant because the power of modern computers negates the
old "it slows down your system" crap that used to get spewed.
Click to expand...

One turns off these "features" not so much because they're slow, but
because they're annoying.

Sylvia.
 
On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 21:30:23 -0700, John Larkin
<jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> Gave us:

Absolutely. We have engineers, assemblers, programmers, PC layout,
purchasing, shipping/receiving, business people. They do lots of
things better than I can. It's more fun that way.
Click to expand...

Yet, YOU came in here to ask how to do a multiple machine drive
cloning exercise.

So the dopes you hire to suck you off are too fucking stupid to search
up common procedures, and you do that (here of all places), but after
getting informed, insult those who gave you assistance with "I don't
perform such trivial tasks" baby bullshit.

You are full of it, child.
 
On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 21:30:23 -0700, John Larkin
<jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> Gave us:

Do you own a 1-man company? Do everything yourself?
Click to expand...

Just got my new cage code the other day, and filed a paper for a grant
one day before the annual expiration date.

My stuff will by used by all joint forces and by our allies as well.

I just spent the last few months fitting out the dev lab with gear and
ESD abatement protections.

All while at the same time developing a few new antennas and a new HF
amplifier design. BIG ferrites and stuff likely a bit too trivial for a
dweeb like you. (more likely over your head)

You sound like one of those Dilbert's manager types.
 
On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 21:36:05 -0700, John Larkin
<jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> Gave us:

On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 22:26:36 -0400, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno
DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> wrote:

On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 17:04:06 -0700, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> Gave us:

I designed this, and did the PCB layout, in a weekend.


Something tells me that you used a lot of previously laid out
segments.

No. This one was new, schematic and layout. It worked first time.
Click to expand...

It wasn't over a weekend. You lie.
Oh, and you did the layout in a weekend.... maybe. But you didn't
start from concept and get art done in a single weekend.

But I did. I didn't Gerber it; The Brat does that part.

The gerber is part of "doing layout". You lose.. Your claim is false.
Click to expand...
 
On Sun, 30 Aug 2015 19:15:33 +1000, Sylvia Else
<sylvia@not.at.this.address> Gave us:

On 30/08/2015 5:06 AM, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno wrote:
On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 11:27:43 -0700, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@On-My-Web-Site.com> Gave us:

OK... The important part... how do I make Win7 the desktop look like
it did in WinXP ?:-}

...Jim Thompson

It is unimportant because the power of modern computers negates the
old "it slows down your system" crap that used to get spewed.


One turns off these "features" not so much because they're slow, but
because they're annoying.

Sylvia.
Click to expand...

I think having checkboxes on icons is a good feature, not an
annoyance.

"Classic" is a retardation. Or a retard falling back on retardation
because it is simple. Fact is those who do it are "simple".
 
In article <kt16ua9nqocet50233on2efa3lrmif97s6@4ax.com>, DLU1
@DecadentLinuxUser.org says...
On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 21:30:23 -0700, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> Gave us:

Do you own a 1-man company? Do everything yourself?


Just got my new cage code the other day, and filed a paper for a grant
one day before the annual expiration date.

My stuff will by used by all joint forces and by our allies as well.

I just spent the last few months fitting out the dev lab with gear and
ESD abatement protections.

All while at the same time developing a few new antennas and a new HF
amplifier design. BIG ferrites and stuff likely a bit too trivial for a
dweeb like you. (more likely over your head)

You sound like one of those Dilbert's manager types.
Click to expand...

Jesus! if your claim is true, which I doubt, we'all in big
trouble.

Jamie
 
On Sun, 30 Aug 2015 10:13:57 -0400, M Philbrook
<jamie_ka1lpa@charter.net> Gave us:

In article <kt16ua9nqocet50233on2efa3lrmif97s6@4ax.com>, DLU1
@DecadentLinuxUser.org says...

On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 21:30:23 -0700, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> Gave us:

Do you own a 1-man company? Do everything yourself?


Just got my new cage code the other day, and filed a paper for a grant
one day before the annual expiration date.

My stuff will by used by all joint forces and by our allies as well.

I just spent the last few months fitting out the dev lab with gear and
ESD abatement protections.

All while at the same time developing a few new antennas and a new HF
amplifier design. BIG ferrites and stuff likely a bit too trivial for a
dweeb like you. (more likely over your head)

You sound like one of those Dilbert's manager types.

Jesus! if your claim is true, which I doubt, we'all in big
trouble.

Jamie
Click to expand...

You are too goddamned stupid to make valid assessments about anything,
child.
 
On Sun, 30 Aug 2015 09:44:53 -0400, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno
<DLU1@DecadentLinuxUser.org> wrote:

On Sat, 29 Aug 2015 21:30:23 -0700, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> Gave us:

Do you own a 1-man company? Do everything yourself?


Just got my new cage code the other day, and filed a paper for a grant
one day before the annual expiration date.

My stuff will by used by all joint forces and by our allies as well.

I just spent the last few months fitting out the dev lab with gear and
ESD abatement protections.
Click to expand...

In your dreams, DimBulb . We all know you're a janitor.

All while at the same time developing a few new antennas and a new HF
amplifier design. BIG ferrites and stuff likely a bit too trivial for a
dweeb like you. (more likely over your head)

You sound like one of those Dilbert's manager types.
Click to expand...
 
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