OT: See the Committee Hearings on C. Rice for Sec'y of State

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Al
 
some idiot wrote:

See the Committee Hearings on C. Rice for Sec'y of State

See POS Barbara Boxer

See how easy it is to hate Democrats

See Spot Run ;-)
This Rice thing is a subhuman and diseased creature who is a symbol
for the darkest days of US government administration. She was, is, and
will be absolutely nothing, a career sycophant of subnormal intelligence
with some sort of quasi idiot savant penchant for regurgitating
phraseology that pretends to be applicable- totally unfit for employment
in any capacity.


Senator Boxer Proves Conde Rice a Liar

Sam Hamod

01/18/05 "Information Clearing House" -- This morning, at 9.40 a.m.,
Senator Barbara Boxer listed fact after fact, statements by Conde Rice,
that showed she contradicted herself time and again about Al Qaeda,
about Saddam and his alleged WMD’s, and his intentions—all of which led
us into war against Iraq. Boxer even went on to show that Conde Rice,
even recently, was lying the more in contradicting statements by the
CIA’s own intelligence reports, contradicting statements by President
Bush, and that her support for administration policies was stronger than
her support for the safety of our nation.

In her response to Boxer, Rice sputtered and lied even more. She refused
to respond to the facts that Boxer pointed out, instead she kept saying
that her integrity and credibility was unquestionable; this was clearly
folly and a liars farce. Clearly, Ms. Rice was shown to be a liar and an
immoral person—not caring about those who have been killed in this war,
this war that was clearly built on lies.

Among the things that Senator Boxer pointed out were these
contradictions: 1. Rice said that Al Qaeda areas had shrunk; Boxer
pointed out that Al Qaeda now had more lands in which it was operating
than before the war on Iraq; 2. Rice said that the war was not about
WMD’s; Boxer pointed out that the congress supported the response based
on fear of WMD’s and atomic weapons that the administration claimed
existed in a dangerous situation for the U.S.; 3. Rice said that Saddam
had worked with Al Qaeda; Boxer pointed out that they were enemies and
no cooperation; 4. Rice said we’d made progress in the Arab and Muslims
worlds; Boxer pointed out that there was more anger against America in
Muslim and Arab lands since the invasion of Iraq, not less—this
according to the CIA’s own intelligence bureau and the president’s own
committee on combating terrorism; 5. Rice said that Al Qaeda was now
more under control; Boxer pointed out that every governmental agency
that has looked at the situation has made clear that Al Qaeda has
appealed to more jihadist Muslims than anyone had ever imagined—Bin
Laden’s hope had come true because of our attack on Iraq which proved to
them that America was attacking and desiring to take-over Arab and
Muslim lands. There were other points, but these are but a few. During
this time, Rice would quote Bush when she felt it was helpful, but even
then Boxer pointed out when she contradicted the president when it
suited her self-defense (especially with reference to Saddam and his
alleged “nuclear weapons”, his infamous aluminum tubes and his “nuclear
facilities.”)

Then Senator Boxer pointed out that Rice contradicted President Bush and
used his quotes when it suited her. Rice kept saying that she did not
want her credibility impugned—Senator Boxer then stated, “I am but
quoting your own contradictions.” For any sane person listening to the
comments, it was clear that Conde Rice has no credibility, no integrity
and is not fit to hold an office as important as Secretary of State.

We applaud Senator Boxer for her courage, her honesty and her care for
the safety of the American people. We also applaud her for trying to
restore some integrity to our Congress and to our senate. Those who
simply caressed Rice this morning, were doing a disservice to our
country. That Rice, who cannot stay with the truth, a person who is
loyal totally to GW Bush rather than to our safety, is clearly not fit
to hold this very important office. If she is put into this office, with
her out of sync cold-war mentality, his misunderstanding of the Arab and
Muslim worlds, her inability to understand Putin of Russia or why many
European, Asian, African and Latin American countries distrust and fear
us—America will be more danger than anyone can possibly imagine. I say
this because she will exacerbate matters between America and the rest of
the world, not help. Our isolation internationally is becoming worse
everyday. To put in one of the architects of this isolation and loss of
respect for America into a major office at this point, would lead to
more disasters down the road.

I know that the Republicans probably have enough votes to put Rice into
the position of Secretary of State; but it is my hope that some of them
will have enough sense to stand against her, with some of the Democrats
who have the courage to finally stand up with Senator Boxer. Senator
Boxer would make a much better Secretary of State than Conde Rice—the
shame in America is that political cronies and political bedfellows like
Rice get these important jobs, rather than people who are truly
qualified to lead our nation.

We say, bravo and thank you to Senator Boxer. To Conde Rice, we say, for
shame.

Sam Hamod is a former advisor to the State Department, former founder
and editor of 3rd World News. His book of essays on war will be
published in 2005 by Ishmael Reed Publishing Co
 
On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 13:46:46 GMT, Fred Bloggs <nospam@nospam.com>
wrote:


This Rice thing is a subhuman and diseased creature who is a symbol
for the darkest days of US government administration. She was, is, and
will be absolutely nothing, a career sycophant of subnormal intelligence
with some sort of quasi idiot savant penchant for regurgitating
phraseology that pretends to be applicable- totally unfit for employment
in any capacity.
Yeah, Stanford University places lots of unfit idiots in positions of
high authority. They probably made her provost just because she's so
cute. After she finishes being Secretary of State, she'll probably go
on welfare.

John

oh, where did you get your PhD?
 
John Larkin wrote:
On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 13:46:46 GMT, Fred Bloggs <nospam@nospam.com
wrote:



This Rice thing is a subhuman and diseased creature who is a symbol
for the darkest days of US government administration. She was, is, and
will be absolutely nothing, a career sycophant of subnormal intelligence
with some sort of quasi idiot savant penchant for regurgitating
phraseology that pretends to be applicable- totally unfit for employment
in any capacity.



Yeah, Stanford University places lots of unfit idiots in positions of
high authority. They probably made her provost just because she's so
cute. After she finishes being Secretary of State, she'll probably go
on welfare.
Her colleagues at Stanford seem to think she'll do a great job,
according to an interview I saw on "The News Hour". What can they say?
However, her record while she was NSA speaks for itself. Do you feel
more secure after 4 years of her helpful advice to the president? It's
clearly not all her fault, but she is obviously willing to compromise
her ethics for political reasons. I find this dangerous in an NSA, and
even more so in a Secretary of State.

However, it's also clear Boxer was on a soapbox, and was playing to her
base. The confirmation was never in doubt, she was just grandstanding
for the left. And, Rice isn't really the problem, in my opinion (other
than the position paper she wrote on the use of tactical nukes, which
scares the HELL out of me).

She is probably one of the more ethical people in this adminstration.
Rumsfeld, Hadley, Wolfowitz, and Cheney are the real villians. They have
no ethics at all, and clearly believe that the end justifies whatever
means they deem necessary. Unfortunately, their eyepieces are fogged,
because whatever end they envisioned for Iraq has failed to materialize.
We are simply left with their means, which appears to be a protracted,
bloody conflict that is increasingly looking like another Vietnam. They
may pull it out. Then again, they may decide to divert attention by
attacking Iran or Syria. Both are being talked about in the inner
circles, according to Seymour Hersh of the new yorker magazine.

John

oh, where did you get your PhD?
--
Regards,
Robert Monsen

"Your Highness, I have no need of this hypothesis."
- Pierre Laplace (1749-1827), to Napoleon,
on why his works on celestial mechanics make no mention of God.
 
John Larkin wrote:
On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 13:46:46 GMT, Fred Bloggs <nospam@nospam.com
wrote:



This Rice thing is a subhuman and diseased creature who is a symbol
for the darkest days of US government administration. She was, is, and
will be absolutely nothing, a career sycophant of subnormal intelligence
with some sort of quasi idiot savant penchant for regurgitating
phraseology that pretends to be applicable- totally unfit for employment
in any capacity.



Yeah, Stanford University places lots of unfit idiots in positions of
high authority.
Apparently so....

They probably made her provost just because she's so
cute.
Nah- she was a "token" provost- the over-endowed universities are
corrupt to the core in high level management.

After she finishes being Secretary of State, she'll probably go
on welfare.
If her future job prospects are based on meritorious performance, then
that is exactly where she will end up.

John

oh, where did you get your PhD?
Rice's degree is a total fraud. There is no way in hell she was held to
any reasonable and legitimate standard. I bet they were lining up to be
her advisor- big bucks for manufacturing EEO tokens these days. If you
or any other simpleton doesn't like hearing the truth, tough shit.
 
uvcceet@juno.com wrote:
In <41F1C418.50409@nospam.com>, on 01/22/05
at 03:10 AM, Fred Bloggs <nospam@nospam.com> said:

This Rice thing is a subhuman and diseased creature who is a symbol
for the darkest days of US government administration. She was, is, and
will be absolutely nothing, a career sycophant of subnormal intelligence
with some sort of quasi idiot savant penchant for regurgitating
phraseology that pretends to be applicable- totally unfit for employment
in any capacity.


Nah- she was a "token" provost- the over-endowed universities are
corrupt to the core in high level management.


After she finishes being Secretary of State, she'll probably go
on welfare.


Rice's degree is a total fraud. There is no way in hell she was held to
any reasonable and legitimate standard. I bet they were lining up to be
her advisor- big bucks for manufacturing EEO tokens these days. If you
or any other simpleton doesn't like hearing the truth, tough shit.


This must drive the Al Sharptons, Jesse Jacksons, and womens lib witches
absolutely insane. They spend a lifetime screaming that blacks and women
are mistreated by the conservatives, and that blacks and women need to
fight for equality. They whine incessantly on ABC/NBC/NPR that no one
will give a black person or a woman an even break. Their total reason for
living, and also their total source of power and income is based on that
fact that blacks and women don't get any credit, power, or responsibility.

Now we are about to confirm, can you believe it, a black woman, as one of
the most powerful people on the planet, and these professional liars
cannot think of one good thing to say about her. Instead, they sick the
former head of the KKK on her. Colin Powell, Ron Brown, Clarence Thomas,
or Buckwheat, it doesn't matter who it is, the liberals hate it when a
black person succeeds.

I think that speaks volumes about their ultimate goal, which has never
been equality for women and black people. They are losing their power over
them, as more and more, we are actually getting past the 50's and 60's and
giving opportunities to everyone.

See ya round, Al, Jesse, and company. We won't miss you.
Take a walk around Oakland on a Saturday night.

You are assuming that just because one black person made it, that we can
celebrate, and stop trying to change the horrid inequalities existing in
american culture.

Fact is, lots of blacks make it in america. Always have, always will.
This was true in the 30s as well. It's just that while 1% of whites
'make it', 1% of 1% of blacks 'make it'. Nearly 50% of african american
males in their late teens and early 20s who live in NYC are unemployed,
while the corresponding number for whites is far lower. When times are
tough, it's the black women who feel it the most, followed by black
males, white women, then white males.

Condi Rice is a brilliant woman, who has risen to a position in the
administration that is unparalleled historically. She is articulate and
politically savvy. She should be proud of her accomplishments. That
doesn't make her a good national security advisor, or a good Secretary
of State, or indeed, even a good, ethical person. As one of the primary
architects of the Iraq strategy, I'd give her an F. Does that make me a
racist?

--
Regards,
Robert Monsen

"Your Highness, I have no need of this hypothesis."
- Pierre Laplace (1749-1827), to Napoleon,
on why his works on celestial mechanics make no mention of God.
 
Richard Henry wrote:
"Fred Bloggs" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
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Richard Henry wrote:

"Robert Monsen" <rcsurname@comcast.net> wrote in message
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She is probably one of the more ethical people in this adminstration.
Rumsfeld, Hadley, Wolfowitz, and Cheney are the real villians. They have
no ethics at all, and clearly believe that the end justifies whatever
means they deem necessary. Unfortunately, their eyepieces are fogged,
because whatever end they envisioned for Iraq has failed to materialize.
We are simply left with their means, which appears to be a protracted,
bloody conflict that is increasingly looking like another Vietnam. They
may pull it out. Then again, they may decide to divert attention by
attacking Iran or Syria. Both are being talked about in the inner
circles, according to Seymour Hersh of the new yorker magazine.


I believe she is extrememly intelligent. I believe she knows Rumsfield,
Hadley, Wolfowitz and Cheney very well after four years (or more) of

working

with them. I believe she can understand them and their motives very

well.

And yet she still wants to be part of the administration.

YOU'RE FULL OF SHIT! HER **FORMER MENTOR** IN THE PERSON OF BRENT
SCOWCROFT CHARACTERIZED HER TENURE AS NSA AS THE ABSOLUTE WORST AND MOST
INCOMPETENT IN THE HISTORY OF THE US, AND I THINK HE KNOWS A TAD BIT
MORE ABOUT IT THAN YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!


Which of us were you replying to? I believe I was being mildly critical of
her - that in spite of her proven intelligence, she still chooses to be part
of this pack.
The point is she has no "proven intelligence"- she is a total farce and
a parrot-a disgrace- a mindless idiot-and a political whore. There is
something very, very, very, wrong with this country. And when you look
at the ocean of incredibly well qualified people available to do the
job, and she's the one they pick?- All I can say is !JESUS CHRIST!
 
Good grief. The woman has been in the public eye, running things for
Bush, for over four years. She has spoken out about all kinds of policies
and ideas, and yet for some reason, we feel the need to drag her away from
her work and put her in front of a bunch of sad-assed, sorry SOB lawyers
who are desperately trying to appear useful and important, striving to
gain their piddly 15 minutes of fame by grilling this person on issues
that anyone with an internet connection already knows her position on. Why
do we give boneheads like Boxer ( feel free to insert any number of
conservative morons as well. They are all in it for the same reason) an
automatic weapon and all the rounds she can fire with impunity for no
friggin reason at all other than to feed their mammoth egos?

Aren't these same jagheads who claim that they are so busy that they don't
even have time to read legislation before they vote on it? We already know
what she stands for, and what she believes. What the heck is the point of
all this?

Oh, and by the way, doesn't matter if its a male or female, liberal or
conservative candidate. Committees like this are not only embarrassing to
the candidate, but embarrasing to the whole country. We ought to all be
ashamed of ourselves, donkeys and elephants, and everything in between for
allowing this childish, boorish display of stupidity.

What a bunch of egomaniacal pigs we have in DC, and yet we keep putting
them back in, hoping that things will get better... How does it go? the
definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over, hoping for
different results? Well, ...."here's your sign"


John
 
"Miles Harris" <mazzer@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 02:27:11 GMT, "Genome" <ilike_spam@yahoo.co.uk
wrote:
I know there's some other Thatcher clone......... Gillian Shepherd!"!!,
Monstorously nice in waxed jacket, waterproofs and wellingtons.

You forgot to mention Shepherd's Jewish as well...
All the more reason for her to sit on my face.

DNA
 
Jim Thompson wrote:
On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 16:56:58 -0800, Robert Monsen
rcsurname@comcast.net> wrote:

[snip]

And who gives a flying fuck whether the democrats go down for the count?
After all the obvious screwups of the bushies, they still lose? On
FAMILY VALUES? What a bunch of maroons. They shouldn't be allowed to
drive, much less run for office.


Aha! We're in agreement on at least one thing ;-)

...Jim Thompson
Absolutely. What a masterful display of incompetence.

Cheers
Terry
 

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