OT rant, iphone

[Fraser Johnston]

On 14/11/11 7:32 PM, asdf wrote:

The iPhone is a business platform that maximizes profits for the
manufacturer (Apple) by taking away freedom from the end user.
Unfortunately among smartphones today there's no other choice than
Android since Meego, which would be the winner IMO, is being sabotaged
from within.

You can Jailbreak an iPhone and make it just as open as any other platform.

Fraser

 

[Jasen Betts]

On 2011-11-15, Fraser Johnston <fraser@cjmanagement.com.au> wrote:

On 14/11/11 4:24 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote:

Only if he pays it. Kingston RAM will go straight into his mac. I've
upgraded the RAM and harddrive on my mac. Apple didn't get a cent for
either.

We stuck some WD SATA drives in a HP server and although they were
twice as big (capacity) and cost half as much, upon testing they were
faster than the SAS drives we got from HP. The original intention was
to use them for overlapped backups of the main drives, but we are
reconsidering that. (everything is raid 10)

To quote Ice T "Don't believe the hype!"

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[keithr]

On 14/11/2011 5:49 PM, Dennis wrote:

"Noddy"<me@home.com> wrote in message news:j9qdg8$op6$1@dont-email.me...
On 14/11/2011 5:25 PM, F Murtz wrote:

It seems to me that an iPhone is made for rich dumbos, If you do what
apple want, pay money and download music to waste time with it may work
as long as you do not want to do anything that requires brains (in other
words toy for the masses)

Iphones are okay, but the tie-in with Apple and their ever increasing
control over the end user is fucking bizarre, and why anyone *wouldn't*
want to stay away from them *just* for that reason remains a mystery.

My HTC phone is getting long in the tooth but you still have control
over it, it has windows as an operating system and you can do most
things that a computer does.

Just get yourself an Android based something or other in whatever shape&
size takes your fancy, and leave "Windows" for the PC hardware. Android is
*light-years* ahead of both Iphone and windows based smart phones in just
about any area imaginable.


--
Regards,
Noddy.


I picked up a Huawei Sonic Android based phone. Both my kids are iPhone
users and having seen the Huawei unit have both said that they will dump the
iPhone when it comes time to upgrade. Just as good if not better and 1/5 of
the price.

I bought a Huawei last week, it has a crappy little resistive screen and
a tiny little qwerty keyboard, but it has a camera, GPS, compass, etc
and it cost $29.95 at Crazy Clark's. It is only a test phone anyway.

 

[keithr]

On 14/11/2011 10:32 PM, asdf wrote:

On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 19:10:14 +1100, F Murtz wrote:

Got given a 3g 4.2 iPhone,what a useless contraption,Frustrating waste
of time, what use are they?
First of all I do not want music,which seems to be their prime purpose.
I have no intention of ever buying anything from iTunes and it took me
an hour to figure how to get free apps as in the beginning it seemed

The iPhone is a business platform that maximizes profits for the
manufacturer (Apple) by taking away freedom from the end user.
Unfortunately among smartphones today there's no other choice than
Android since Meego, which would be the winner IMO, is being sabotaged
from within.
Take an Android phone/tablet and you will get the same functionality and
more freedom at a much lower price. You will have to live with Java
though, which is the number one reason I will abandon Android the day
there will be a native+open alternative.

You can write apps for Android in C++ with the NDK if you don't like Java.

 

[keithr]

On 14/11/2011 7:24 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote:

On 11/14/2011 5:25 PM, F Murtz wrote:
CatharticF1 wrote:
F Murtz<haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in news:j9nu19$gnp$1@dont-email.me:

Got given a 3g 4.2 iPhone,what a useless contraption,Frustrating waste
of time, what use are they?
First of all I do not want music,which seems to be their prime purpose.
I have no intention of ever buying anything from iTunes and it took me
an hour to figure how to get free apps as in the beginning it seemed
that nothing was going to happen until I gave my credit card details,
which I have no intention of.I discovered finally that it could be
done.
I tried to download a free eBook reader app nothing happened at
least no
indication of anything happening.So I decided to download it to
computer
with iTunes, I then synched with phone but got nowhere (did not
transfer
to phone)
tried to figure out how to put my own MP3 in phone to use as ring
tone,got nowhere.
Maybe when I get to other house with Wi Fi something might happen.
Almost got the hammer out.
Did manage to put some photos from computer to phone
I have an HTC diamond touch which I have some control over.
Without music being a major interest and a bank account the iPhone
seems
a dead loss.
I might see if Wi Fi allows me to download some apps.

Have you considered something more your speed?
Like a notepad and pencil.
I understand there's an upgrade to an eraser coming.

You've just got a small bridge to cross to become familiar with it.
And unless you're using a dumbphone no bridge is shorter.



It seems to me that an iPhone is made for rich dumbos

**ALL Apple products have been designed for rich dumbos. A mate of mine
(who has more money than sense) gave me his old computer (a very nice,
i5 machine, with three monitors and three fast video cards and craploads
of memory), because he was 'upgrading' to a new Apple. Cost him 4 grand.
Looks purty. Doesn't do much more than I can do with my new machine.
Doesn't work any faster either. I loaded mine with 16GB RAM (cost
$200.00). His 16GB or Apple RAM was an $800.00 option. Sucker.
Naturally, he has an iPhone. I use a 4 year old Nokia. Not a smart
'phone, but I can surf the web, use the GPS and make telephone calls. It
even does a whole lot more (even takes passable photographs), but I
never use all the other stuff anyway. It's a telephone, people!


, If you do what
apple want, pay money and download music to waste time with it may work
as long as you do not want to do anything that requires brains (in other
words toy for the masses)
My HTC phone is getting long in the tooth but you still have control
over it, it has windows as an operating system and you can do most
things that a computer does.

**I might buy one of the smartphones one day. Samsung looks to be giving
Apple the heeby-jeebies. I reckon I might throw my money at them.
ANYTHING but Apple. Let the morons be fleeced by Apple and their
over-priced crap.

--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

Companies like the iPhone for the same reason that they like the

Backberry, it is because it is so limited. Less chance of a user loading
a rogue app that penetrates the internal network.

 

[Krypsis]

On 13/11/2011 7:10 PM, F Murtz wrote:

Got given a 3g 4.2 iPhone,

Can't complain about the price then, can you?

what a useless contraption,

Try telling that to the millions of users out there! They might
disagree. Many of my friends and colleagues seem to prefer the Blackberry.

Frustrating waste of time, what use are they?

Primary purpose - making/receiving calls.
Supplementary purpose(s) - Just about whatever you can find a app for.

First of all I do not want music,which seems to be their prime purpose.

No, making calls is their primary purpose - along with other forms of
communication.

I have no intention of ever buying anything from iTunes and it took me
an hour to figure how to get free apps as in the beginning it seemed
that nothing was going to happen until I gave my credit card details,
which I have no intention of.I discovered finally that it could be done.

I like the FM radio feature in my Nokia. Only snag is I need to use
earbuds with them and I never seem to have any handy when I want to
listen to the radio. I doubt I'd ever want to buy music from the iStore
since I could rip my rather extensive collection of CDs instead.

I tried to download a free eBook reader app nothing happened at least no

I wouldn't be bothered reading an eBook on anything short of a tablet
with a 7 - 10 inch screen. I do have a 7" eReader for that purpose in
fact and it works quite ok. Keep it in the car preloaded with eBooks
just in case I'm stuck waiting for someone/something and have time to kill.

indication of anything happening.So I decided to download it to computer
with iTunes, I then synched with phone but got nowhere (did not transfer
to phone)tried to figure out how to put my own MP3 in phone to use as ring
tone,got nowhere.

Did you read the documentation for it? Would be available online if it
didn't come with the iPhone when it was given to you.

Maybe when I get to other house with Wi Fi something might happen.
Almost got the hammer out.

Try an anger management course. You might find it will solve your iPhone
issues or, at the very least, help you control your frustration. That
can only be a good thing.

Did manage to put some photos from computer to phone
I have an HTC diamond touch which I have some control over.
Without music being a major interest and a bank account the iPhone seems
a dead loss.

You can still use it as a phone! Primary purpose, remember?

I might see if Wi Fi allows me to download some apps.

It does! All my "younger" friends download apps via WiFi.


--

Krypsis

 

[Clocky]

Fraser Johnston wrote:

On 14/11/11 2:25 PM, F Murtz wrote:

It seems to me that an iPhone is made for rich dumbos, If you do what
apple want, pay money and download music to waste time with it may
work as long as you do not want to do anything that requires brains
(in other words toy for the masses)


If rich dumbos have no problems using one and you do, what does that
make you?

Someone with more imagination most likely.

 

[Trevor Wilson]

On 11/15/2011 4:32 PM, Fraser Johnston wrote:

On 14/11/11 4:24 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote:

**ALL Apple products have been designed for rich dumbos. A mate of mine
(who has more money than sense) gave me his old computer (a very nice,
i5 machine, with three monitors and three fast video cards and craploads
of memory), because he was 'upgrading' to a new Apple. Cost him 4 grand.
Looks purty. Doesn't do much more than I can do with my new machine.
Doesn't work any faster either. I loaded mine with 16GB RAM (cost
$200.00). His 16GB or Apple RAM was an $800.00 option. Sucker.


Only if he pays it. Kingston RAM will go straight into his mac. I've
upgraded the RAM and harddrive on my mac. Apple didn't get a cent for
either.

**He already bought the computer, loaded with Apple's over-priced RAM.
They mumbled something about warranty to him and he caved and paid the
big Bucks. Now he is just another slave to the rip-off Apple machine.
Sad. Good for me though. I ended up with a very nice, pretty quick
computer for nix.

--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

 

[keithr]

On 13/11/2011 7:10 PM, F Murtz wrote:

Got given a 3g 4.2 iPhone,what a useless contraption,Frustrating waste
of time, what use are they?
First of all I do not want music,which seems to be their prime purpose.
I have no intention of ever buying anything from iTunes and it took me
an hour to figure how to get free apps as in the beginning it seemed
that nothing was going to happen until I gave my credit card details,
which I have no intention of.I discovered finally that it could be done.
I tried to download a free eBook reader app nothing happened at least no
indication of anything happening.So I decided to download it to computer
with iTunes, I then synched with phone but got nowhere (did not transfer
to phone)
tried to figure out how to put my own MP3 in phone to use as ring
tone,got nowhere.
Maybe when I get to other house with Wi Fi something might happen.
Almost got the hammer out.
Did manage to put some photos from computer to phone
I have an HTC diamond touch which I have some control over.
Without music being a major interest and a bank account the iPhone seems
a dead loss.
I might see if Wi Fi allows me to download some apps.

I read some figures today, for Q3 2011 the iPhone accounted for 15.0% of
smart phone sales but 66% of smart phone profits.

draw your own conclusions from that.

 

[Peter]

Trevor Wilson <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote:

On 11/15/2011 4:32 PM, Fraser Johnston wrote:
On 14/11/11 4:24 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote:

**ALL Apple products have been designed for rich dumbos. A mate of mine
(who has more money than sense) gave me his old computer (a very nice,
i5 machine, with three monitors and three fast video cards and craploads
of memory), because he was 'upgrading' to a new Apple. Cost him 4 grand.
Looks purty. Doesn't do much more than I can do with my new machine.
Doesn't work any faster either. I loaded mine with 16GB RAM (cost
$200.00). His 16GB or Apple RAM was an $800.00 option. Sucker.


Only if he pays it. Kingston RAM will go straight into his mac. I've
upgraded the RAM and harddrive on my mac. Apple didn't get a cent for
either.

**He already bought the computer, loaded with Apple's over-priced RAM.
They mumbled something about warranty to him and he caved and paid the
big Bucks. Now he is just another slave to the rip-off Apple machine.
Sad. Good for me though. I ended up with a very nice, pretty quick computer for nix.

--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

Apple service is far superior from anything I have experienced in the past
excluding Japan.

Can you get a replacement phone on the spot under warranty with the android
phones?

Nokia takes hours just to see a tech.

I have owned smart phones since O2 Atoms and before that, PPC.

What is it you can do on any of these that you are unable to do on the
others?

I have all my MP3 on my iPhone and it has not been jail broken.

I try not to be a iwanker but after a fault and dealing with their service
department I may replace some PC's with Apples in the future.

--

 

[Peter]

keithr <keith@nowhere.com.au> wrote:

On 13/11/2011 7:10 PM, F Murtz wrote:
Got given a 3g 4.2 iPhone,what a useless contraption,Frustrating waste
of time, what use are they?
First of all I do not want music,which seems to be their prime purpose.
I have no intention of ever buying anything from iTunes and it took me
an hour to figure how to get free apps as in the beginning it seemed
that nothing was going to happen until I gave my credit card details,
which I have no intention of.I discovered finally that it could be done.
I tried to download a free eBook reader app nothing happened at least no
indication of anything happening.So I decided to download it to computer
with iTunes, I then synched with phone but got nowhere (did not transfer
to phone)
tried to figure out how to put my own MP3 in phone to use as ring
tone,got nowhere.
Maybe when I get to other house with Wi Fi something might happen.
Almost got the hammer out.
Did manage to put some photos from computer to phone
I have an HTC diamond touch which I have some control over.
Without music being a major interest and a bank account the iPhone seems
a dead loss.
I might see if Wi Fi allows me to download some apps.

I read some figures today, for Q3 2011 the iPhone accounted for 15.0% of
smart phone sales but 66% of smart phone profits.

draw your own conclusions from that.

Is that what they make from app sales - iTunes?
--

 

[Trevor Wilson]

On 11/16/2011 12:45 PM, Peter wrote:

Trevor Wilson<trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote:
On 11/15/2011 4:32 PM, Fraser Johnston wrote:
On 14/11/11 4:24 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote:

**ALL Apple products have been designed for rich dumbos. A mate of mine
(who has more money than sense) gave me his old computer (a very nice,
i5 machine, with three monitors and three fast video cards and craploads
of memory), because he was 'upgrading' to a new Apple. Cost him 4 grand.
Looks purty. Doesn't do much more than I can do with my new machine.
Doesn't work any faster either. I loaded mine with 16GB RAM (cost
$200.00). His 16GB or Apple RAM was an $800.00 option. Sucker.


Only if he pays it. Kingston RAM will go straight into his mac. I've
upgraded the RAM and harddrive on my mac. Apple didn't get a cent for
either.

**He already bought the computer, loaded with Apple's over-priced RAM.
They mumbled something about warranty to him and he caved and paid the
big Bucks. Now he is just another slave to the rip-off Apple machine.
Sad. Good for me though. I ended up with a very nice, pretty quick computer for nix.

--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

Apple service is far superior from anything I have experienced in the past
excluding Japan.

Can you get a replacement phone on the spot under warranty with the android
phones?

**I've owned cell 'phones since 1991. I've never required service for
any of them. Of course, I've never owned an Apple product. Perhaps they
need frequent service. One could argue that, at the price demanded by
Apple, they can afford to replace them.

Nokia takes hours just to see a tech.

**I've owned several Nokias. Outside battery replacement (which, unlike
iPhones, can be performed by the owner), I've never needed to have one
serviced. They don't go wrong.

I have owned smart phones since O2 Atoms and before that, PPC.

What is it you can do on any of these that you are unable to do on the
others?

**Who gives a crap? I use a 'phone for (gasp!) making 'phone calls.
Anything else is just bling.

I have all my MP3 on my iPhone and it has not been jail broken.

I try not to be a iwanker but after a fault and dealing with their service
department I may replace some PC's with Apples in the future.

**More the fool you.

--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

 

[Fraser Johnston]

On 15/11/11 4:16 PM, Jasen Betts wrote:

We stuck some WD SATA drives in a HP server and although they were
twice as big (capacity) and cost half as much, upon testing they were
faster than the SAS drives we got from HP. The original intention was
to use them for overlapped backups of the main drives, but we are
reconsidering that. (everything is raid 10)

To quote Ice T "Don't believe the hype!"

Don't believe the hype is Public Enemy mate. : )

Fraser

 

[CatharticF1]

atec77 <atec77@hotmail.com> wrote in news:j9qekk$soa$1@dont-email.me:

On 14/11/2011 4:34 PM, CatharticF1 wrote:
F Murtz<haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:j9nu19$gnp$1@dont-email.me:

Got given a 3g 4.2 iPhone,what a useless contraption,Frustrating
waste of time, what use are they?
First of all I do not want music,which seems to be their prime
purpose. I have no intention of ever buying anything from iTunes and
it took me an hour to figure how to get free apps as in the
beginning it seemed that nothing was going to happen until I gave my
credit card details, which I have no intention of.I discovered
finally that it could be done. I tried to download a free eBook
reader app nothing happened at least no indication of anything
happening.So I decided to download it to computer with iTunes, I
then synched with phone but got nowhere (did not transfer to phone)
tried to figure out how to put my own MP3 in phone to use as ring
tone,got nowhere.
Maybe when I get to other house with Wi Fi something might happen.
Almost got the hammer out.
Did manage to put some photos from computer to phone
I have an HTC diamond touch which I have some control over.
Without music being a major interest and a bank account the iPhone
seems a dead loss.
I might see if Wi Fi allows me to download some apps.

Have you considered something more your speed?
Like a notepad and pencil.
I understand there's an upgrade to an eraser coming.

You've just got a small bridge to cross to become familiar with it.
And unless you're using a dumbphone no bridge is shorter.

Rather than failing at derisement consider and just plain admit the
iphone is very little of what it claims to be and needs jailbraking to
become even midly useful
There are a number of much more useful and affordable phones

I had jailbroken my phone but now it's not once again. The only thing I
miss is call and SMS filtering.

--
CatharticF1

I can't resist no crossing signs

 

[CatharticF1]

Noddy <me@home.com> wrote in news:j9qdg8$op6$1@dont-email.me:

On 14/11/2011 5:25 PM, F Murtz wrote:

It seems to me that an iPhone is made for rich dumbos, If you do what
apple want, pay money and download music to waste time with it may work
as long as you do not want to do anything that requires brains (in other
words toy for the masses)

Iphones are okay, but the tie-in with Apple and their ever increasing
control over the end user is fucking bizarre, and why anyone *wouldn't*
want to stay away from them *just* for that reason remains a mystery.

My HTC phone is getting long in the tooth but you still have control
over it, it has windows as an operating system and you can do most
things that a computer does.

Just get yourself an Android based something or other in whatever shape
& size takes your fancy, and leave "Windows" for the PC hardware.
Android is *light-years* ahead of both Iphone and windows based smart
phones in just about any area imaginable.

No - that's just not true.

Even subjectively. There is a case based on preferences you could make (but
haven't). But in quality and polish of the hardware, OS and app
integration, not to mention fragmentation of Android it's Apple that are in
front. I'd like there to be an alternative, but it isn't Android (for me).

If you want an alternative to iPhone I'd choose the new Nokia Windows Phone
7 handset. WP7 is very nice, also well polished but lacks the app depth of
iOs. I think in another year it will be a real option.

--
CatharticF1

I can't resist no crossing signs

 

[CatharticF1]

F Murtz <haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:hv2wq.5951$NR2.1641@viwinnwfe01.internal.bigpond.com:

CatharticF1 wrote:
F Murtz<haggisz@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:j9nu19$gnp$1@dont-email.me:

Got given a 3g 4.2 iPhone,what a useless contraption,Frustrating
waste of time, what use are they?
First of all I do not want music,which seems to be their prime
purpose. I have no intention of ever buying anything from iTunes and
it took me an hour to figure how to get free apps as in the
beginning it seemed that nothing was going to happen until I gave my
credit card details, which I have no intention of.I discovered
finally that it could be done. I tried to download a free eBook
reader app nothing happened at least no indication of anything
happening.So I decided to download it to computer with iTunes, I
then synched with phone but got nowhere (did not transfer to phone)
tried to figure out how to put my own MP3 in phone to use as ring
tone,got nowhere.
Maybe when I get to other house with Wi Fi something might happen.
Almost got the hammer out.
Did manage to put some photos from computer to phone
I have an HTC diamond touch which I have some control over.
Without music being a major interest and a bank account the iPhone
seems a dead loss.
I might see if Wi Fi allows me to download some apps.

Have you considered something more your speed?
Like a notepad and pencil.
I understand there's an upgrade to an eraser coming.

You've just got a small bridge to cross to become familiar with it.
And unless you're using a dumbphone no bridge is shorter.



It seems to me that an iPhone is made for rich dumbos, If you do what
apple want, pay money and download music to waste time with it may
work as long as you do not want to do anything that requires brains
(in other words toy for the masses)

I dislike a lot of things about Apple and had jailbroken my handset for
an extended period. I have a huge music collection but have only ever
bought one or two songs from iTunes. What I can tell you is that amongst
the technorati (podcasts and blogs etc I pay attention to) Apple are
partly reviled and partly admired. But the truth is that most reviewing
this field choose the iPhone. It just works, it's at the front or
nearabouts in major features, the apps are far too many and typically
cheap, many are free and the product itself is the best.

But it is overpriced, yes. And it is locked down, though that provides
benefits in use because there is less that can be configured by you or
apps.

My HTC phone is getting long in the tooth but you still have control
over it, it has windows as an operating system and you can do most
things that a computer does.

If you like Windows (I presume the old 6.5 yeah?) then get Windows Phone
7. There are plenty of handsets and they are cheaper than an iPhone and
if you're not into apps or music you'll probably be very happy.

--
CatharticF1

I can't resist no crossing signs

 

[kreed]

On Nov 14, 6:24 pm, Trevor Wilson <tre...@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au>
wrote:

On 11/14/2011 5:25 PM, F Murtz wrote:



CatharticF1 wrote:
F Murtz<hagg...@hotmail.com> wrote innews:j9nu19$gnp$1@dont-email.me:

Got given a 3g 4.2 iPhone,what a useless contraption,Frustrating waste
of time, what use are they?
First of all I do not want music,which seems to be their prime purpose.
I have no intention of ever buying anything from iTunes and it took me
an hour to figure how to get free apps as in the beginning it seemed
that nothing was going to happen until I gave my credit card details,
which I have no intention of.I discovered finally that it could be done.
I tried to download a free eBook reader app nothing happened at least no
indication of anything happening.So I decided to download it to computer
with iTunes, I then synched with phone but got nowhere (did not transfer
to phone)
tried to figure out how to put my own MP3 in phone to use as ring
tone,got nowhere.
Maybe when I get to other house with Wi Fi something might happen.
Almost got the hammer out.
Did manage to put some photos from computer to phone
I have an HTC diamond touch which I have some control over.
Without music being a major interest and a bank account the iPhone seems
a dead loss.
I might see if Wi Fi allows me to download some apps.

Have you considered something more your speed?
Like a notepad and pencil.
I understand there's an upgrade to an eraser coming.

You've just got a small bridge to cross to become familiar with it.
And unless you're using a dumbphone no bridge is shorter.

It seems to me that an iPhone is made for rich dumbos

**ALL Apple products have been designed for rich dumbos. A mate of mine
(who has more money than sense) gave me his old computer (a very nice,
i5 machine, with three monitors and three fast video cards and craploads
of memory), because he was 'upgrading' to a new Apple. Cost him 4 grand.
Looks purty. Doesn't do much more than I can do with my new machine.
Doesn't work any faster either. I loaded mine with 16GB RAM (cost
$200.00). His 16GB or Apple RAM was an $800.00 option. Sucker.
Naturally, he has an iPhone. I use a 4 year old Nokia. Not a smart
'phone, but I can surf the web, use the GPS and make telephone calls. It
even does a whole lot more (even takes passable photographs), but I
never use all the other stuff anyway. It's a telephone, people!

, If you do what

apple want, pay money and download music to waste time with it may work
as long as you do not want to do anything that requires brains (in other
words toy for the masses)
My HTC phone is getting long in the tooth but you still have control
over it, it has windows as an operating system and you can do most
things that a computer does.

**I might buy one of the smartphones one day. Samsung looks to be giving
Apple the heeby-jeebies. I reckon I might throw my money at them.
ANYTHING but Apple. Let the morons be fleeced by Apple and their
over-priced crap.

For once we agree on something.

--
Trevor Wilsonwww.rageaudio.com.au

 

[kreed]

On Nov 16, 12:49 pm, Trevor Wilson <tre...@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au>
wrote:

On 11/16/2011 12:45 PM, Peter wrote:



Trevor Wilson<tre...@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au>  wrote:
On 11/15/2011 4:32 PM, Fraser Johnston wrote:
On 14/11/11 4:24 PM, Trevor Wilson wrote:

**ALL Apple products have been designed for rich dumbos. A mate of mine
(who has more money than sense) gave me his old computer (a very nice,
i5 machine, with three monitors and three fast video cards and craploads
of memory), because he was 'upgrading' to a new Apple. Cost him 4 grand.
Looks purty. Doesn't do much more than I can do with my new machine.
Doesn't work any faster either. I loaded mine with 16GB RAM (cost
$200.00). His 16GB or Apple RAM was an $800.00 option. Sucker.

Only if he pays it. Kingston RAM will go straight into his mac. I've
upgraded the RAM and harddrive on my mac. Apple didn't get a cent for
either.

**He already bought the computer, loaded with Apple's over-priced RAM.
They mumbled something about warranty to him and he caved and paid the
big Bucks. Now he is just another slave to the rip-off Apple machine.
Sad. Good for me though. I ended up with a very nice, pretty quick computer for nix.

--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

Apple service is far superior from anything I have experienced in the past
excluding Japan.

Can you get a replacement phone on the spot under warranty with the android
phones?

**I've owned cell 'phones since 1991. I've never required service for
any of them. Of course, I've never owned an Apple product. Perhaps they
need frequent service. One could argue that, at the price demanded by
Apple, they can afford to replace them.


I can't say that I have had a problem with any phone I have had

either, except a
LG one where the screen got broken when I fell over.


MY Wife's Nokia dropped dead last year. Out of warranty, not worth
mucking about with.
Got an identical one, new off ebay for about
$80 including postage. Was here in 2 days.

Nokia takes hours just to see a tech.

**I've owned several Nokias. Outside battery replacement (which, unlike
iPhones, can be performed by the owner), I've never needed to have one
serviced. They don't go wrong.


Exactly.

Do I phone's have internal batteries that cant be replaced by the
owner (easily) ?


I guess this is to ensure that you cant remove the battery and stop
the GPS running so they can continue to track you and spy on you even
when you turn it off ?

I have owned smart phones since O2 Atoms and before that, PPC.

What is it you can do on any of these that you are unable to do on the
others?

**Who gives a crap? I use a 'phone for (gasp!) making 'phone calls.
Anything else is just bling.



I have all my MP3 on my iPhone and it has not been jail broken.

Shouldn't even have to mention this - MP3 is pretty much the universal
format
for music these days, and anything that doesn't play them these days
is an absolute joke.

I try not to be a iwanker but after a fault and dealing with their service
department I may replace some PC's with Apples in the future.

**More the fool you.

I think I would stick to the PC's, more commonly used, replacement
parts of any spec you want available just about anywhere for very
competitive prices, motherboards, processors, video cards etc. If
something dies, replace it and keep working. No need to stuff around
trying to get serviced if you don't live near a repair centre. There
are PC repair places even in many small towns.

Just about any windows app will run on PC's without hassles, and stuff
that doesn't, there is heaps of knowledge out there in Google to help
you with whatever you want to do with them.

--
Trevor Wilsonwww.rageaudio.com.au

 

[Krypsis]

On 16/11/2011 12:45 PM, Peter wrote:

keithr<keith@nowhere.com.au> wrote:
On 13/11/2011 7:10 PM, F Murtz wrote:
Got given a 3g 4.2 iPhone,what a useless contraption,Frustrating waste
of time, what use are they?
First of all I do not want music,which seems to be their prime purpose.
I have no intention of ever buying anything from iTunes and it took me
an hour to figure how to get free apps as in the beginning it seemed
that nothing was going to happen until I gave my credit card details,
which I have no intention of.I discovered finally that it could be done.
I tried to download a free eBook reader app nothing happened at least no
indication of anything happening.So I decided to download it to computer
with iTunes, I then synched with phone but got nowhere (did not transfer
to phone)
tried to figure out how to put my own MP3 in phone to use as ring
tone,got nowhere.
Maybe when I get to other house with Wi Fi something might happen.
Almost got the hammer out.
Did manage to put some photos from computer to phone
I have an HTC diamond touch which I have some control over.
Without music being a major interest and a bank account the iPhone seems
a dead loss.
I might see if Wi Fi allows me to download some apps.

I read some figures today, for Q3 2011 the iPhone accounted for 15.0% of
smart phone sales but 66% of smart phone profits.

draw your own conclusions from that.

Is that what they make from app sales - iTunes?

He did say "smart phone sales" so one could concur that only sales of
the iPhone itself are being measured.

--

Krypsis

 

[Noddy]

On 16/11/2011 4:52 PM, CatharticF1 wrote:

No - that's just not true.

In your opinion

Even subjectively. There is a case based on preferences you could make (but
haven't). But in quality and polish of the hardware, OS and app
integration, not to mention fragmentation of Android it's Apple that are in
front. I'd like there to be an alternative, but it isn't Android (for me).

We'll have to agree to disagree.

As I mentioned, we have a friend staying with us who has the latest
Iphone whatever, and I've been playing with it over the last few days.
It *looks* nice, but it has quite a few short-comings compared to the
HTC Desire in my opinion, and the most irritating is the Camera.

Quite simply, the Desire's camera is excellent to the point that it
would give a few dedicated digital cameras a decent run for their money,
whereas the Iphone's camera feels like that of a 5 year old Nokia. The
Desire also has a much easier to use interface and comes with a heap of
more intuitive utilities. If it has a weakness it's the HTC Sync
software which is particularly piss poor, but being an Android based
phone there is no shortage of excellent alternatives (the absolute best
being MyPhoneExplorer which is superb *and* free).

If you want an alternative to iPhone I'd choose the new Nokia Windows Phone
7 handset. WP7 is very nice, also well polished but lacks the app depth of
iOs. I think in another year it will be a real option.

Sorry, but my wife has a WP7 based HTC Mozart and for mine it's not a
patch on an android phone. It may be at some future point, but for now
it's desperately lacking.

--
Regards,
Noddy.