OT: LG-VX6100 Cellular Phone

Jim Thompson · Feb 11, 2005

My wife's Samsung Cell Phone died, so Verizon gave her a LG-VX6100
which has a camera.

They told her it was $2.99/month additional for the privilege of
E-mailing photos, so she said NO.

They told her that you couldn't get photos off the phone except by
E-mailing them, but I find that hard to believe, since I see
photo-editing software is available (as is a USB cable).

Anyone know about such things? (Me, I use a ten year old Motorola
flip phone, I don't need any fancy shit

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Jim Thompson · Feb 11, 2005

On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 17:28:03 -0500, Spehro Pefhany
<speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:

On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 15:07:41 -0700, the renowned Jim Thompson
thegreatone@example.com> wrote:

My wife's Samsung Cell Phone died, so Verizon gave her a LG-VX6100
which has a camera.

They told her it was $2.99/month additional for the privilege of
E-mailing photos, so she said NO.

They told her that you couldn't get photos off the phone except by
E-mailing them, but I find that hard to believe, since I see
photo-editing software is available (as is a USB cable).

Anyone know about such things? (Me, I use a ten year old Motorola
flip phone, I don't need any fancy shit

...Jim Thompson

I have yet to see a cell phone camera that's worth getting the photos
off of.

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

480)460-2350 | |
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Spehro Pefhany · Feb 11, 2005

On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 15:07:41 -0700, the renowned Jim Thompson
<thegreatone@example.com> wrote:

My wife's Samsung Cell Phone died, so Verizon gave her a LG-VX6100
which has a camera.

They told her it was $2.99/month additional for the privilege of
E-mailing photos, so she said NO.

They told her that you couldn't get photos off the phone except by
E-mailing them, but I find that hard to believe, since I see
photo-editing software is available (as is a USB cable).

Anyone know about such things? (Me, I use a ten year old Motorola
flip phone, I don't need any fancy shit

...Jim Thompson

I have yet to see a cell phone camera that's worth getting the photos
off of.

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
--
"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward"
speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com
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Joerg · Feb 11, 2005

Hello Jim,

I have yet to see a cell phone camera that's worth getting the photos
off of.

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

Agree. My cheap Costco 2.1MPixel camera makes better picture than I have
ever seen off a cell phone.

Problem solved ;-)

Not quite. Now you have to relay Spehro's statement to someone who may
think she had just received the greatest gizmo since sliced bread.

Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com

Jim Thompson · Feb 11, 2005

On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 22:50:42 GMT, Joerg
<notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote:

Hello Jim,

I have yet to see a cell phone camera that's worth getting the photos
off of.

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

Agree. My cheap Costco 2.1MPixel camera makes better picture than I have
ever seen off a cell phone.

Problem solved ;-)

Not quite. Now you have to relay Spehro's statement to someone who may
think she had just received the greatest gizmo since sliced bread.

Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com

480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax

Pig Bladder · Feb 13, 2005

On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 15:07:41 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:

My wife's Samsung Cell Phone died, so Verizon gave her a LG-VX6100
which has a camera.

They told her it was $2.99/month additional for the privilege of
E-mailing photos, so she said NO.

They told her that you couldn't get photos off the phone except by
E-mailing them, but I find that hard to believe, since I see
photo-editing software is available (as is a USB cable).

Anyone know about such things? (Me, I use a ten year old Motorola
flip phone, I don't need any fancy shit

Frankly, anybody who's that wedded to the telephone really needs to get a

life beyond talking to other people who have nothing better to do than
talk on the phone 24/7.

But, Thompson is as Thompson does.
--
The Pig Bladder From Uranus, Still Waiting for
Some Hot Babe to Ask What My Favorite Planet Is.

Watson A.Name - \"Watt Su · Feb 13, 2005

"Pig Bladder" <pigbladder@neodruid.net> wrote in message
news

an.2005.02.13.08.04.38.486160@neodruid.net...

On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 15:07:41 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:

My wife's Samsung Cell Phone died, so Verizon gave her a LG-VX6100
which has a camera.

They told her it was $2.99/month additional for the privilege of
E-mailing photos, so she said NO.

They told her that you couldn't get photos off the phone except by
E-mailing them, but I find that hard to believe, since I see
photo-editing software is available (as is a USB cable).

Anyone know about such things? (Me, I use a ten year old Motorola
flip phone, I don't need any fancy shit

Frankly, anybody who's that wedded to the telephone really needs to
get a
life beyond talking to other people who have nothing better to do than
talk on the phone 24/7.

But, Thompson is as Thompson does.

We have two cell sites, one for NExtel and one for Stinkular, on top of
our bldg on campus. During the 10 min break between campus, those poor
cell sites must be overloaded, because as I walk down the mall, I'd
estimate more than half the students are blabbing on their cellphone. I
use mine when I need to, but these people are getting a "tennis elbow"
from holding the phone up to their ear. One young lady asked me if I
knew of a cell phone plan that would give her more than a thousand free
minutes a month, because she kept going over the max, and it was costing
her a lot of money. Geez, talk about a motormouth! I'm lucky if I go
over a hundred minutes a month. These kids are blabbing on there 24/7!

They had a piece on the local news this week about how to save money on
your cell phone. One lady was texting so much it was costing her a lot,
so they showed her how to call her service provider and change her plan
to give her more free text messages. It saved her a _lot_ of money.
These cell phone companies have a license to steal when people get
sucked into using the text messages. At a nickel or so each, sometimes
it's over a hundred a month!

> --

Spehro Pefhany · Feb 13, 2005

On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 05:53:12 -0800, the renowned "Watson A.Name -
\"Watt Sun, the Dark Remover\"" <NOSPAM@dslextreme.com> wrote:

We have two cell sites, one for NExtel and one for Stinkular, on top of
our bldg on campus. During the 10 min break between campus, those poor
cell sites must be overloaded, because as I walk down the mall, I'd
estimate more than half the students are blabbing on their cellphone. I
use mine when I need to, but these people are getting a "tennis elbow"
from holding the phone up to their ear. One young lady asked me if I
knew of a cell phone plan that would give her more than a thousand free
minutes a month, because she kept going over the max, and it was costing
her a lot of money. Geez, talk about a motormouth! I'm lucky if I go
over a hundred minutes a month. These kids are blabbing on there 24/7!

I've got 200 minutes/month and find that quite satisfactory. Just
about every high school student has one, (and quite a few younger ones
as well), and they are constantly yakking as they walk, stand around,
wait for the bus, have a smoke, etc.

They had a piece on the local news this week about how to save money on
your cell phone. One lady was texting so much it was costing her a lot,
so they showed her how to call her service provider and change her plan
to give her more free text messages. It saved her a _lot_ of money.
These cell phone companies have a license to steal when people get
sucked into using the text messages. At a nickel or so each, sometimes
it's over a hundred a month!

On a cost per byte basis, that's a very impressive business case.
Unless they can prove price-fixing or something, it's to be considered
legitimate, too.

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
--
"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward"
speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com
Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com

Jim Thompson · Feb 13, 2005

<pigbladder@neodruid.net> wrote:

On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 15:07:41 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:

My wife's Samsung Cell Phone died, so Verizon gave her a LG-VX6100
which has a camera.

They told her it was $2.99/month additional for the privilege of
E-mailing photos, so she said NO.

They told her that you couldn't get photos off the phone except by
E-mailing them, but I find that hard to believe, since I see
photo-editing software is available (as is a USB cable).

Anyone know about such things? (Me, I use a ten year old Motorola
flip phone, I don't need any fancy shit

Frankly, anybody who's that wedded to the telephone really needs to get a
life beyond talking to other people who have nothing better to do than
talk on the phone 24/7.

But, Thompson is as Thompson does.

Pig Bladder IS, uh, well, what can you say, ignorant is the only word
that comes to mind.

I have an ancient 75 minute plan with no roaming or LD charges that I
refuse to let them "upgrade" me from.

I never go over 75 minutes, my wife very rarely does.

Considering that I live in a desert I consider a cell phone a safety
item, just like a tire jack.

I've even taken to NOT forwarding my land line when I go to lunch...
east coast clients seem totally incapable of telling time ;-)

...Jim Thompson
--
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| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
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Jim Thompson · Feb 13, 2005

On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 16:15:30 +0000, John Woodgate
<jmw@jmwa.demon.contraspam.yuk> wrote:

I read in sci.electronics.design that Jim Thompson
thegreatone@example.com> wrote (in <nvsu019pd68i3idjo95lvs99noipp3b2ak@
4ax.com&gt about 'OT: LG-VX6100 Cellular Phone', on Sun, 13 Feb 2005:

I've even taken to NOT forwarding my land line when I go to lunch...
east coast clients seem totally incapable of telling time ;-)

Or do they just forget that your lunch hour is from 1130 to 1530? (;-)

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Ian · Feb 13, 2005

"Spehro Pefhany" <speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote in message
news

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On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 05:53:12 -0800, the renowned "Watson A.Name -
\"Watt Sun, the Dark Remover\"" <NOSPAM@dslextreme.com> wrote:

They had a piece on the local news this week about how to save money on
your cell phone. One lady was texting so much it was costing her a lot,
so they showed her how to call her service provider and change her plan
to give her more free text messages. It saved her a _lot_ of money.
These cell phone companies have a license to steal when people get
sucked into using the text messages. At a nickel or so each, sometimes
it's over a hundred a month!

On a cost per byte basis, that's a very impressive business case.
Unless they can prove price-fixing or something, it's to be considered
legitimate, too.

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany

I was told that the SMS facility was an afterthought in the standard, but
incredibly profitable. A few years ago, a Nokia engineer told me about
the craze in Finland for SMS "chain letters". The latest one at the time
was "If you don't text this to 5 more people within the next hour, your
mobile will change from a Nokia to an Ericsson". He wondered if their
marketing people had originated it....
;-)

Regards
Ian

Watson A.Name - \"Watt Su · Feb 13, 2005

"Spehro Pefhany" <speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote in message
news

7ou01lr0vk0d1di8p1t272ap5s4d2d0pn@4ax.com...

On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 05:53:12 -0800, the renowned "Watson A.Name -
\"Watt Sun, the Dark Remover\"" <NOSPAM@dslextreme.com> wrote:

We have two cell sites, one for NExtel and one for Stinkular, on top
of
our bldg on campus. During the 10 min break between campus, those
poor
cell sites must be overloaded, because as I walk down the mall, I'd
estimate more than half the students are blabbing on their cellphone.
I
use mine when I need to, but these people are getting a "tennis
elbow"
from holding the phone up to their ear. One young lady asked me if I
knew of a cell phone plan that would give her more than a thousand
free
minutes a month, because she kept going over the max, and it was
costing
her a lot of money. Geez, talk about a motormouth! I'm lucky if I
go
over a hundred minutes a month. These kids are blabbing on there
24/7!

I've got 200 minutes/month and find that quite satisfactory. Just
about every high school student has one, (and quite a few younger ones
as well), and they are constantly yakking as they walk, stand around,
wait for the bus, have a smoke, etc.

They had a piece on the local news this week about how to save money
on
your cell phone. One lady was texting so much it was costing her a
lot,
so they showed her how to call her service provider and change her
plan
to give her more free text messages. It saved her a _lot_ of money.
These cell phone companies have a license to steal when people get
sucked into using the text messages. At a nickel or so each,
sometimes
it's over a hundred a month!

On a cost per byte basis, that's a very impressive business case.
Unless they can prove price-fixing or something, it's to be considered
legitimate, too.

And what P's me O is they keep on sending me tempting 'free' text msgs
to enter a contest for some free drawing, and I keep sending back NO. I
already had a 'wrong number' text msg come on my phone, and I checked
the callerID and called the number back. I got a VM and left a msg to
_never_ text me again! I'm going to have to do as the news piece said
and call them up, and ask that a text msg block be put on my number.

Then I forgot the PW (hey I've changed cell providers so many times
lately it's hard to remember), and I called the number to get it sent
back to me. So I saw on my next bill that they charged me a dime to
send the PW text. >:-(

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
--

Michael · Feb 13, 2005

Jim Thompson wrote:
(snip)

I've even taken to NOT forwarding my land line when I go to lunch...
east coast clients seem totally incapable of telling time ;-)

...Jim Thompson

Good idea, that, Jim. I don't have, nor do I want, a "cell", and I
*never* answer my landline phone (ringer is OFF; volume on answer
machine ON) unless caller says something like hey Michael, it's me ...
pick up. This has shown - because very few messages get left - that
99+% of incoming calls are from people I don't know (and probably don't
want to know).

As for us east coast-ers seemingly being unable to tell time, that's a
myth. We can tell time; we just expect everyone else to be on eastern
time too. ;-) (Not unlike the typical American expectation that
*everyone* on this planet speak American english)

---
Michael

Jim Thompson · Feb 13, 2005

On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 18:14:48 GMT, Michael <NoSpam@att.net> wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote:
(snip)
I've even taken to NOT forwarding my land line when I go to lunch...
east coast clients seem totally incapable of telling time ;-)

...Jim Thompson

Good idea, that, Jim.

I figure anyone I care about knows my cell number, like wife, kids,
grandkids, father. Anyone else calling the main number will go to
voice mail.

I don't have, nor do I want, a "cell",

I've used my cell phone on numerous emergency situations, like an
accident happening in front of me, or calling DPS to report a drunk
driver.

and I
*never* answer my landline phone (ringer is OFF; volume on answer
machine ON) unless caller says something like hey Michael, it's me ...
pick up.

I was one of the first on the Do Not Call list. And I chew out the
types who ignore the list so bad they NEVER call again ;-)

This has shown - because very few messages get left - that
99+% of incoming calls are from people I don't know (and probably don't
want to know).

As for us east coast-ers seemingly being unable to tell time, that's a
myth. We can tell time; we just expect everyone else to be on eastern
time too. ;-) (Not unlike the typical American expectation that
*everyone* on this planet speak American english)

---
Michael

480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax

Ruediger · Feb 13, 2005

Humans are nuts, alltogether: All germans are either Nazi's ( even 60 years
ago not really correct ) or wear leatherpants ( incorrect everywhere
outside some touristinc centres in the utost south of germany ), all muslim
woman go with a piece of cloth ( lacking the word for it in english )
around their head ( valid only in those islamic countries where centuries
ago slaves had to have their heads uncovered to be more easily
distinguishable from the free people, so where wearing something on the
head is a social MUST to show one is a free and open minded person ),
Christs eating only pig-flesh ( Hey, we got vegetarians nowaday

),
non-monoteistic religions being non-believers ( Well, they believe just in
something different ) , politicans being untrustworthy ( many are ) or are
always 100% right ( none is ), weapons are good / bad ( hey, when you use a
rifle to shoot an animal that attacks you its ok.. but when you were so
stupid to go where you could expect a dangerous animal, it was stupid ),
furcoats are being nice ( Well.. imagine yourself getting skinned alive )
or furcoats being absolutely damnable ( Well, when you ever been to the
northpole you will soon find out that most high-tech-fabrics are plain
lousy compared to a single good dress made of thick fur.. But tell: Do You
live at the northpole? )....

Humans are that way.

So, don't try to change the world, see, it will not care about you. But when
you care for your own small world, it might inspire others, and then you
might succeed.

This my dad always told me.

Michael wrote:

snip
As for us east coast-ers seemingly being unable to tell time, that's a
myth. We can tell time; we just expect everyone else to be on eastern
time too. ;-) (Not unlike the typical American expectation that
*everyone* on this planet speak American english)

---
Michael

--
Hochachtungsvoll

Rüdiger

Charles Edmondson · Feb 13, 2005

Jim Thompson wrote:

pigbladder@neodruid.net> wrote:

On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 15:07:41 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:

My wife's Samsung Cell Phone died, so Verizon gave her a LG-VX6100
which has a camera.

They told her it was $2.99/month additional for the privilege of
E-mailing photos, so she said NO.

They told her that you couldn't get photos off the phone except by
E-mailing them, but I find that hard to believe, since I see
photo-editing software is available (as is a USB cable).

Anyone know about such things? (Me, I use a ten year old Motorola
flip phone, I don't need any fancy shit

Frankly, anybody who's that wedded to the telephone really needs to get a
life beyond talking to other people who have nothing better to do than
talk on the phone 24/7.

But, Thompson is as Thompson does.

Pig Bladder IS, uh, well, what can you say, ignorant is the only word
that comes to mind.

I have an ancient 75 minute plan with no roaming or LD charges that I
refuse to let them "upgrade" me from.

I never go over 75 minutes, my wife very rarely does.

Considering that I live in a desert I consider a cell phone a safety
item, just like a tire jack.

I've even taken to NOT forwarding my land line when I go to lunch...
east coast clients seem totally incapable of telling time ;-)

...Jim Thompson
Hi Jim,

I guess I am even more of a primitive...

My wife and I each have 20 minute (yes, that is twenty minutes per
MONTH) plans, and we don't intend to change. We don't use them that
much, and we only go over about twice a year. Since these are such
minimal plans, if we were to ever go to another provider, it would cost
us twice as much (we presently only pay $32 per month) just to keep even.

The only problem is that my cell phone battery is getting bad. It sits
in the car all day, and the heat in there cooks them. I could use a new
phone, but they want too much for a 'free' phone! I might just have to
break down and buy a replacement battery or something...

--
Charlie
--
Edmondson Engineering
Unique Solutions to Unusual Problems

Jim Thompson · Feb 15, 2005

On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 23:17:05 -0500, przemek klosowski
<przemek@tuxdotorg.instead.of.dot> wrote:

On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 15:07:41 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:

My wife's Samsung Cell Phone died, so Verizon gave her a LG-VX6100 which
has a camera.

They told her that you couldn't get photos off the phone except by
E-mailing them, but I find that hard to believe, since I see photo-editing
software is available (as is a USB cable).

... and rightly so, because my office friend downloads pictures w/no
problems using the $10 USB cable he got on ebay.

480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax

Jim Thompson · Feb 19, 2005

On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 08:06:53 -0500, "cl" <clfurent@Yahoo.Com> wrote:

"Fred Abse" <excretatauris@cerebrumconfus.it> wrote in message
newsan.2005.02.17.21.53.36.542457@cerebrumconfus.it...
On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 12:04:49 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:

I tend to ignore NY and MA as non-existent ;-)

Does that mean the "M" in "MIT" stands for Montana?

--
Then there's duct tape ...
(Garrison Keillor)

I missed the original part of this thread, what was the reason of the thread
about this phone? I just picked one up at the Verizon store.... Anything I
should know?

CL

My wife was told she would have to subscribe to an extra cost service
so she could E-mail her photographs, since they couldn't be removed
from the phone in any other way.

Which turns out to be nonsense, see... http://www.susteen.com/

...Jim Thompson
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| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona Voice

480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax

cl · Feb 19, 2005

"Jim Thompson" <thegreatone@example.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 08:06:53 -0500, "cl" <clfurent@Yahoo.Com> wrote:

"Fred Abse" <excretatauris@cerebrumconfus.it> wrote in message
newsan.2005.02.17.21.53.36.542457@cerebrumconfus.it...
On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 12:04:49 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:

I tend to ignore NY and MA as non-existent ;-)

Does that mean the "M" in "MIT" stands for Montana?

--
Then there's duct tape ...
(Garrison Keillor)

I missed the original part of this thread, what was the reason of the
thread
about this phone? I just picked one up at the Verizon store.... Anything I
should know?

CL

My wife was told she would have to subscribe to an extra cost service
so she could E-mail her photographs, since they couldn't be removed
from the phone in any other way.

Which turns out to be nonsense, see... http://www.susteen.com/

...Jim Thompson

Oh, ok...... thanks... I thought maybe there was something of detrimental
value I should know about, like a hazard not told to me at time of purchase
or something. I had figured out within 15 minutes of owning the phone - how
to delete pictures - as I was figuring out all the settings and such. There
is a "CD" with it to show usage and such. I haven't gotten around to
watching it yet. I did glance at the book a time or two to find things I
couldn't find on my own. Usually, I'm pretty good with out all the
instructions. Some ass hole probably just wanted more commission.

cl

Clarence_A · Feb 19, 2005

"Fred Abse" <excretatauris@cerebrumconfus.it> wrote in message
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On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 08:55:52 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:

I always despised Cambridge... what an uncivil bunch of
people.

Too many Mayflower descendants.

Salem's just up the road, too. Remember what they used to do
there?

;-)

Accuse their neighbors of not being Christians so they could
murder them?
They didn't read the first amendment I guess.

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