OT: Hey Eurotrash, the Arabs Beat You to It

[Dirk Bruere at Neopax]

John Woodgate wrote:

I read in sci.electronics.design that Dirk Bruere at Neopax
dirk@neopax.com> wrote (in <344rj2F467r47U1@individual.net&gt about 'OT:
Hey Eurotrash, the Arabs Beat You to It', on Thu, 6 Jan 2005:


Which is as nothing compared with Sanskrit


Do you find your knowledge of Sanskrit valuable when time-travelling?

Only in India

--
Dirk

The Consensus:-
The political party for the new millenium
http://www.theconsensus.org

 

[Ban]

Frank Bemelman wrote:

What disturbs me OTOH is how the responsibles stay unharmed who
ignored the warnings and alerts, similar to 9/11 police chief who
didn't evacuate, but sent in additional 1500 forces.

This kind of disastrous events are so unreal that I don't think you
can truly hold people responsible. If the 9/11 police chief knew that
the buildings were going to collapse the way they did, he would
surely have evacuated. I didn't expect the buildings to collapse, so
shortly after
the hit. I can imagine they didn't realize what happened to them,
warning or not.

If the (Japanese) architect had been called, the chief would had have still
maybe 20min. to evacuate.
A guy on such a (well-payed and powerful) position deserves to have
intelligence and not only the right party membership. And his ability
dealing with unexpected situations should certainly be above average. Every
architecture student will first think about how long the structure will
last, every engineer will at least see the possibility of failure and try to
get first hand information (from the architect or the static specialist).
It is unfortunately the civil servants, that seem to be more interested in
the security of their jobs than what it is about.

--
ciao Ban
Bordighera, Italy

 

[Frank Bemelman]

"Ban" <bansuri@web.de> schreef in bericht
news:fkcDd.372934$b5.18205790@news3.tin.it...

Frank Bemelman wrote:
What disturbs me OTOH is how the responsibles stay unharmed who
ignored the warnings and alerts, similar to 9/11 police chief who
didn't evacuate, but sent in additional 1500 forces.

This kind of disastrous events are so unreal that I don't think you
can truly hold people responsible. If the 9/11 police chief knew that
the buildings were going to collapse the way they did, he would
surely have evacuated. I didn't expect the buildings to collapse, so
shortly after
the hit. I can imagine they didn't realize what happened to them,
warning or not.

If the (Japanese) architect had been called, the chief would had have
still
maybe 20min. to evacuate.
A guy on such a (well-payed and powerful) position deserves to have
intelligence and not only the right party membership. And his ability
dealing with unexpected situations should certainly be above average.
Every
architecture student will first think about how long the structure will
last, every engineer will at least see the possibility of failure and try
to
get first hand information (from the architect or the static specialist).

Yes, architect students and engineers, perhaps. You know the story of
the Citibank tower?

http://www.241806.net/mightymordy/Stories1-Tower.htm

It is unfortunately the civil servants, that seem to be more interested in
the security of their jobs than what it is about.

What we certainly don't need is more security, IMO. It is already becoming
more of a plague than a solution.

--
Thanks, Frank.
(remove 'q' and 'invalid' when replying by email)

 

[John Woodgate]

I read in sci.electronics.design that Bob Stephens <stephensyomamadigita
l@earthlink.net> wrote (in <tqyi7lv115w2.19bx188wq5bph$.dlg@40tude.net&gt
about 'OT: Hey Eurotrash, the Arabs Beat You to It', on Thu, 6 Jan 2005:

I sometimes torture him by saying
"effectively unique" or "presumably unique" just to watch the veins
stick out on his neck

Well, the English 1952 penny is both of those, because only one is
known, although there are four others unaccounted for, probably
irretrievably lost.
--
Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.
The good news is that nothing is compulsory.
The bad news is that everything is prohibited.
http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk

 

[John Larkin]

On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 23:58:49 -0500, Spehro Pefhany
<speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:

On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 20:26:04 -0800, the renowned John Larkin
john@spamless.usa> wrote:

On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 17:33:23 -0700, Jim Thompson
thegreatone@example.com> wrote:

On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 16:27:59 -0800, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highSNIPlandTHIStechPLEASEnology.com> wrote:

On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 09:20:28 -0700, Jim Thompson
thegreatone@example.com> wrote:

[snip]

"Nucular" is the in-way to say it right now... infuriates BOTH the
EuroTrash AND the American Leftists at the same time ;-)


Didn't Jimmy Carter popularize that pronunciation? He was actually a
"nucular engineer" by training.

John

Yes. Gave engineering a bad name :-(


And Presidents.

John

He did manage to provoke the Soviets into a disastrous military
intervention in Afghanistan. And all he had to do was provide support
to a bunch of radical Islamic jihadists.

He also got a Nobel prize for his brilliant solution to the
Arab-Israeli conflict. And when the Iranians kidnapped our entire
embassy staff, he sure showed them who was boss.

John

 

[John Woodgate]

I read in sci.electronics.design that Ban <bansuri@web.de> wrote (in
<fkcDd.372934$b5.18205790@news3.tin.it&gt about 'OT: Hey Eurotrash, the
Arabs Beat You to It', on Thu, 6 Jan 2005:

If the (Japanese) architect had been called,

Have you ever tried to call a Japanese architect at around 8 PM local
time? And is this police chief supposed to speak Japanese? How long
would it take to explain the situation? What would be the initial
reaction, even if contact was established? 'Ha, sir, you get serious
toruble making hoax telephone calls!'.
--
Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.
The good news is that nothing is compulsory.
The bad news is that everything is prohibited.
http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk

 

[Frank Bemelman]

"Frank Bemelman" <f.bemelmanq@xs4all.invalid.nl> schreef in bericht
news:41dd361a$0$6221$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl...

The Americans private donations are catching up. Yesterday, in the
Netherlands, with its 16 million habitants, the score of private
donations was 54 million Euro. (73 million $US). Today there is
a big fund raising campaing on radio and TV here, those are always
pretty succesful and will have great result.

The Eurotrash of the Netherlands private donations are now 112 million
Euro, roughly 148 million US$.

--
Thanks, Frank.
(remove 'q' and 'invalid' when replying by email)

 

[Mark Jones]

Frank Bemelman wrote:

"Frank Bemelman" <f.bemelmanq@xs4all.invalid.nl> schreef in bericht
news:41dd361a$0$6221$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl...


The Americans private donations are catching up. Yesterday, in the
Netherlands, with its 16 million habitants, the score of private
donations was 54 million Euro. (73 million $US). Today there is
a big fund raising campaing on radio and TV here, those are always
pretty succesful and will have great result.


The Eurotrash of the Netherlands private donations are now 112 million
Euro, roughly 148 million US$.

Yeah, well I donated American dollars through an Icelandic-based
online game. Re: http://www.eve-online.com/community/donation.asp

No, I don't expect Iceland to say "Na-na-na-boo-boo, we're beating
the Americans!!!"

 

[Bob Stephens]

On 5 Jan 2005 02:11:56 -0800, bill.sloman@ieee.org wrote:

There are two conflicting processes working here.

People who misuse a word look like idiots to everybody who knows the
accepted meaning, but if the idiots can drag in a sufficient number of
other idiots, their perversion of the original word changes the
accepted meaning.

"Prestigious" is the classic example - the Complete Oxford still lists
it as meaning deceptive or illusory. I still worry about the
educational level of people who use the word as if it is related to
"prestige" in its second sense, involving (good) reputation, but they
no longer rate as idiots.

John Woodgate probably knows even better examples.
----------
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

Two of my pet hatreds:

Some idiot with a harelip around 1978 mispronounced mnemonics as 'numonics'
and now I see it everywhere including college textbooks.

The other one is the spoken use of 'peripheral'. 8 people out of 10 say
'peripheal' these days.

Oh yeah, then there's 'nucular' and 'simular'. ARRRGH!!!


Bob

 

[Daniel Haude]

["Followup-To:" header set to sci.electronics.design.]
On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 08:42:37 -0500,
Jon Yaeger <jono_1@bellsouth.net> wrote
in Msg. <BE0158FD.13E96%jono_1@bellsouth.net>

President Bush and Rumsfeld were sitting in a bar.

A guy walks in and asks the barman, "Isn't that
Bush and Rumsfeld sitting over there?"

[...]

I first heard the joke with a dentist instead of the woman and I liked it
a lot better that way. More subtle.

--Daniel

--
"With me is nothing wrong! And with you?" (from r.a.m.p)

 

[Daniel Haude]

["Followup-To:" header set to sci.electronics.design.]
On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 10:54:59 -0500,
Jon Yaeger <jono_1@bellsouth.net> wrote
in Msg. <BE017803.13ED8%jono_1@bellsouth.net>

In fact, I'd put her up against any one of the 72 black-eyed Houris (the
virgins that allegedly await Muslim martyrs in heaven).

Only in some, very extreme interpretations of the Koran.

Do a search on "virgin" in the Koran and be very, very disappointed:

http://www.hti.umich.edu/k/koran/simple.html

Just for fun, make another one for "martyr".

--D.

 

[Pig Bladder]

On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 09:20:28 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:

On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 15:00:44 GMT, Bob Stephens
stephensyomamadigital@earthlink.net> wrote:

[snip]

Two of my pet hatreds:

Some idiot with a harelip around 1978 mispronounced mnemonics as 'numonics'
and now I see it everywhere including college textbooks.

The other one is the spoken use of 'peripheral'. 8 people out of 10 say
'peripheal' these days.

Oh yeah, then there's 'nucular' and 'simular'. ARRRGH!!!


Bob

"Nucular" is the in-way to say it right now... infuriates BOTH the
EuroTrash AND the American Leftists at the same time ;-)

It doesn't infuriate anyone with a multi-digit IQ - it merely shows the
ignorance of the speaker. (or, in some cases, self-righteous, pig-headed
arrogance.)
--
The Pig Bladder From Uranus, Still Waiting for
Some Hot Babe to Ask What My Favorite Planet Is.

 

[Pig Bladder]

On Thu, 06 Jan 2005 14:00:31 +0100, Frank Bemelman wrote:

"Ban" <bansuri@web.de> schreef in bericht
newsc8Dd.371827$b5.18161089@news3.tin.it...
Jim Thompson wrote:

BTW, morning newspapers say PRIVATE donations from USA have now
exceeded $200 Million.

I'm sure, by the time we are done, that our total contributions, cash
AND in-kind, will be in the $ Billions.

Have been flying through Berlin yesterday and there is an amazing
solidarity
with the victims of these desastrous Tsunami waves. Little children donate
their pocket money or favourite dolls, everybody burning firecrackers on
NewYear gave the same amount into the all present donation boxes. Nobody
compares the amount, you just give whatever you can. And doesn't the 50
Euro
Christmas money of a 7 year old' count a bit higher than the millions of
some warlord?

Millions? I thought Bush had donated only $10.000 out of his own pocket.
That
is not much compared to the 50 Euro of a child. The child is bankrupt, after
such a donation. For Bush it is less than blowing his nose.

The Americans private donations are catching up. Yesterday, in the
Netherlands,
with its 16 million habitants, the score of private donations was 54 million
Euro. (73 million $US). Today there is a big fund raising campaing on radio
and TV here, those are always pretty succesful and will have great result.
We are hoping that our Minister of Finance comes with an announcement to
double
whatever is going to be donated today.

I think anyone keeping a scorecard of contributions is very ill, indeed.
--
The Pig Bladder From Uranus, Still Waiting for
Some Hot Babe to Ask What My Favorite Planet Is.

 

[Frank Bemelman]

"Pig Bladder" <pigbladder@neodruid.net> schreef in bericht
newsan.2005.01.07.20.20.21.80047@neodruid.net...

On Thu, 06 Jan 2005 14:00:31 +0100, Frank Bemelman wrote:

"Ban" <bansuri@web.de> schreef in bericht
newsc8Dd.371827$b5.18161089@news3.tin.it...
Jim Thompson wrote:

BTW, morning newspapers say PRIVATE donations from USA have now
exceeded $200 Million.

I'm sure, by the time we are done, that our total contributions, cash
AND in-kind, will be in the $ Billions.

Have been flying through Berlin yesterday and there is an amazing
solidarity
with the victims of these desastrous Tsunami waves. Little children
donate
their pocket money or favourite dolls, everybody burning firecrackers
on
NewYear gave the same amount into the all present donation boxes.
Nobody
compares the amount, you just give whatever you can. And doesn't the 50
Euro
Christmas money of a 7 year old' count a bit higher than the millions
of
some warlord?

Millions? I thought Bush had donated only $10.000 out of his own pocket.
That
is not much compared to the 50 Euro of a child. The child is bankrupt,
after
such a donation. For Bush it is less than blowing his nose.

The Americans private donations are catching up. Yesterday, in the
Netherlands,
with its 16 million habitants, the score of private donations was 54
million
Euro. (73 million $US). Today there is a big fund raising campaing on
radio
and TV here, those are always pretty succesful and will have great
result.
We are hoping that our Minister of Finance comes with an announcement to
double
whatever is going to be donated today.

I think anyone keeping a scorecard of contributions is very ill, indeed.

Tell that to Jim Thompson who started it.

--
Thanks, Frank.
(remove 'q' and 'invalid' when replying by email)

 

[John Woodgate]

I read in sci.electronics.design that Bob Stephens <stephensyomamadigita
l@earthlink.net> wrote (in <mmgjd5yv02tm$.1se4vdzzskobo$.dlg@40tude.net>
) about 'Pedantry Re: OT: Hey Eurotrash, the Arabs Beat You to It', on
Fri, 7 Jan 2005:

Not to be overly pedantic, but what is this romance you have with the
word pedant? In an average year I usually come across this word 1.6
times. A quick Google search on 'pedant Woodgate' yielded 33 hits.

Just curious,

Almost bizarre. (;-)

You will probably find that I used the word six times and had it used
about me the rest of the times. I do like to be precise, but in a real
context, not an ivory-tower one, and I try not to be pedantic.

I would say, 'That will stop me going to London tomorrow', but in a
formal report I would perhaps write 'That prevented my going to London
on the next day.'

Some of the hits you got were from sci.lang.translation, where REAL
pedantry occasionally intrudes from the grammar newsgroups, and I do
tend to use less-common words on suitable occasions because it helps
people whose first language is not English to improve their vocabulary.
For the benefit of any Americans reading this, there ARE a few such
people in the world. (;-)
--
Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.
The good news is that nothing is compulsory.
The bad news is that everything is prohibited.
http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk

 

[Pig Bladder]

On Fri, 07 Jan 2005 22:13:36 +0100, Frank Bemelman wrote:

"Pig Bladder" <pigbladder@neodruid.net> schreef in bericht
On Thu, 06 Jan 2005 14:00:31 +0100, Frank Bemelman wrote:
"Ban" <bansuri@web.de> schreef in bericht

We are hoping that our Minister of Finance comes with an announcement
to double
whatever is going to be donated today.

I think anyone keeping a scorecard of contributions is very ill,
indeed.

Tell that to Jim Thompson who started it.

I can't. He's plonked me. Horrors, will my life ever be the same.
--
The Pig Bladder From Uranus, Still Waiting for
Some Hot Babe to Ask What My Favorite Planet Is.

 

[Pig Bladder]

On Fri, 07 Jan 2005 22:15:23 +0100, Frank Bemelman wrote:

"Pig Bladder" <pigbladder@neodruid.net> schreef in bericht
newsan.2005.01.07.20.20.21.80047@neodruid.net...
On Thu, 06 Jan 2005 14:00:31 +0100, Frank Bemelman wrote:

"Ban" <bansuri@web.de> schreef in bericht
newsc8Dd.371827$b5.18161089@news3.tin.it...
Jim Thompson wrote:

BTW, morning newspapers say PRIVATE donations from USA have now
exceeded $200 Million.

I'm sure, by the time we are done, that our total contributions, cash
AND in-kind, will be in the $ Billions.

Have been flying through Berlin yesterday and there is an amazing
solidarity
with the victims of these desastrous Tsunami waves. Little children
donate
their pocket money or favourite dolls, everybody burning firecrackers
on
NewYear gave the same amount into the all present donation boxes.
Nobody
compares the amount, you just give whatever you can. And doesn't the 50
Euro
Christmas money of a 7 year old' count a bit higher than the millions
of
some warlord?

Millions? I thought Bush had donated only $10.000 out of his own pocket.
That
is not much compared to the 50 Euro of a child. The child is bankrupt,
after
such a donation. For Bush it is less than blowing his nose.

The Americans private donations are catching up. Yesterday, in the
Netherlands,
with its 16 million habitants, the score of private donations was 54
million
Euro. (73 million $US). Today there is a big fund raising campaing on
radio
and TV here, those are always pretty succesful and will have great
result.
We are hoping that our Minister of Finance comes with an announcement to
double
whatever is going to be donated today.

I think anyone keeping a scorecard of contributions is very ill, indeed.

Tell that to Jim Thompson who started it.

And BTW, PLONK.

Thanks, Frank. You can join the rest of the elite crowd of people who
plonk me because they hate the truth.

And those morons have _no_ _idea_ how easy it is to access a person's
system directory from the inside of a killfile.
--
The Pig Bladder From Uranus, Still Waiting for
Some Hot Babe to Ask What My Favorite Planet Is.

 

[John Fields]

On Fri, 07 Jan 2005 23:35:20 GMT, Pig Bladder
<pigbladder@neodruid.net> wrote:

I can't. He's plonked me. Horrors, will my life ever be the same.

---
No.

--
John Fields

 

[Kryten]

"Jim Thompson" <thegreatone@example.com> wrote in message
news:nqhmt0l6672aevqseicqu1i38qaa60vshj@4ax.com...

They're claiming, on al Jazeera, that the USA (and the Jews) caused
the Tsunami with an A-bomb.

I suppose that's not out of the realms of American geographic knowledge...
;-)


Maybe they aimed for Iraq and hit the middle of the Indian Ocean...



Nope, there's no reason to A-bomb the Indonesians.

In my experience, they seem to have a good moral balance.
Respectable without being prudish.

Many young ladies wear the habib over the hair but still show the face.
They are at ease chatting intelligently and smiling with westerners,
but wouldn't invite promiscuity or go around exploding.


Like most people, I'm very upset at the misfortune of the tsunami victims.

 

[Jim Thompson]

On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 07:07:10 -0500, John Stewart
<jh.stewart@sympatico.ca> wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote:

Hey Eurotrash, the Arabs Beat You to It...

They're claiming, on al Jazeera, that the USA (and the Jews) caused
the Tsunami with an A-bomb.

Sheeesh! You guys are slow ;-)

...Jim Thompson

Whats goin' on Jim? Will you bring the American version of the 10
Commandments down from Mt. Rushmore next? You are beginning to get a bit
boring.

More boring than toooobz ?

Cheers to all, John Stewart

The EU types are so eager to criticize the USA, no matter what we
do... low contribution: criticize amount, more contribution than
anyone else: criticize motive... gets tiring, so tiring that I'm ready
to trash them at every opportunity.

...Jim Thompson
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