OT: Help getting into my Gmail

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Robert Baer

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Got a catch-22 here:
Am having all my mail from localnet.com forwarded to my g-mail
account, so any response from google "help" winds up IN the g-mail account.

Queries to localnet are answered to my localnet e-mail.

I see no way that i can respond to the g-mail account "help" methods
for username and/or user password recovery, and have their response show
elsewhere (eg: my corporate e-mail).

HELP??
 
On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 21:36:33 -0800, Robert Baer <robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote:

Got a catch-22 here:
Am having all my mail from localnet.com forwarded to my g-mail
account, so any response from google "help" winds up IN the g-mail account.

Queries to localnet are answered to my localnet e-mail.

I see no way that i can respond to the g-mail account "help" methods
for username and/or user password recovery, and have their response show
elsewhere (eg: my corporate e-mail).
Click to expand...
Oops, you forgot to specify mobile phone or ISP email for password
recovery?

What's wrong with using the gmail.com web interface?

Grant.
HELP??
Click to expand...
 
Grant wrote:
On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 21:36:33 -0800, Robert Baer<robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote:

Got a catch-22 here:
Am having all my mail from localnet.com forwarded to my g-mail
account, so any response from google "help" winds up IN the g-mail account.

Queries to localnet are answered to my localnet e-mail.

I see no way that i can respond to the g-mail account "help" methods
for username and/or user password recovery, and have their response show
elsewhere (eg: my corporate e-mail).

Oops, you forgot to specify mobile phone or ISP email for password
recovery?

What's wrong with using the gmail.com web interface?

Grant.

HELP??
1) NO mobile phone.
Click to expand...
2) My ISP _is_ localnet.com .
3) Nothing wrong with the g-mail interface; they just give you _NO_ way
to recover info outside their "box" which only allows the original
account info of robertbaer@localnet.com (all e-mails to that are
re-directed to the g-mail account).
 
Robert Baer a écrit :
Grant wrote:
On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 21:36:33 -0800, Robert
Baer<robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote:

Got a catch-22 here:
Am having all my mail from localnet.com forwarded to my g-mail
account, so any response from google "help" winds up IN the g-mail
account.

Queries to localnet are answered to my localnet e-mail.

I see no way that i can respond to the g-mail account "help" methods
for username and/or user password recovery, and have their response show
elsewhere (eg: my corporate e-mail).

Oops, you forgot to specify mobile phone or ISP email for password
recovery?

What's wrong with using the gmail.com web interface?

Grant.

HELP??
1) NO mobile phone.
2) My ISP _is_ localnet.com .
3) Nothing wrong with the g-mail interface; they just give you _NO_ way
to recover info outside their "box" which only allows the original
account info of robertbaer@localnet.com (all e-mails to that are
re-directed to the g-mail account).
Click to expand...
No big deal.
Don't you have a web interface for your localnet account ?
Momentarily configure it so that either it's not redirected, or to keep
the messages on the localnet server, and you're done.


--
Thanks,
Fred.
 
On 9/20/2012 6:00 AM, Robert Baer wrote:
1) NO mobile phone.
2) My ISP _is_ localnet.com .
3) Nothing wrong with the g-mail interface; they just give you _NO_ way
to recover info outside their "box" which only allows the original
account info of robertbaer@localnet.com (all e-mails to that are
re-directed to the g-mail account).
Click to expand...
Probably the redirecting is being done at the ISP not gmail. Contact
them and have them remove it, or block gmail's access to your account.

If gmail is grabbing the emails, you can block them (if gmail is sucking
the mail up) by changing your localnet.com password.

So:

1. Change your localnet.com password.
2. Use another program to get your email from localnet.com (like
thunderbird) if you don't have a web interface at localnet.com.
3. I do not think that gmail deletes email on your localnet.com account,
but copies it instead. (though once read, some email providers do delete
after a certain time period.)


--
I'm never going to grow up.
 
Fred Bartoli wrote:
Robert Baer a écrit :
Grant wrote:
On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 21:36:33 -0800, Robert
Baer<robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote:

Got a catch-22 here:
Am having all my mail from localnet.com forwarded to my g-mail
account, so any response from google "help" winds up IN the g-mail
account.

Queries to localnet are answered to my localnet e-mail.

I see no way that i can respond to the g-mail account "help" methods
for username and/or user password recovery, and have their response
show
elsewhere (eg: my corporate e-mail).

Oops, you forgot to specify mobile phone or ISP email for password
recovery?

What's wrong with using the gmail.com web interface?

Grant.

HELP??
1) NO mobile phone.
2) My ISP _is_ localnet.com .
3) Nothing wrong with the g-mail interface; they just give you _NO_
way to recover info outside their "box" which only allows the original
account info of robertbaer@localnet.com (all e-mails to that are
re-directed to the g-mail account).



No big deal.
Don't you have a web interface for your localnet account ?
Momentarily configure it so that either it's not redirected, or to keep
the messages on the localnet server, and you're done.


I cannot change the re-direction; they do that.
Click to expand...
I have e-mailed them asking them to stop the re-direction but AFAIK
they have not responded, or if they did, it was to my localnet account
and so got (you guessed it) re-directed to the inaccessible g-mail account.
I even told them to respond to my corporate account..no go.
 
PeterD wrote:
On 9/20/2012 6:00 AM, Robert Baer wrote:
1) NO mobile phone.
2) My ISP _is_ localnet.com .
3) Nothing wrong with the g-mail interface; they just give you _NO_ way
to recover info outside their "box" which only allows the original
account info of robertbaer@localnet.com (all e-mails to that are
re-directed to the g-mail account).


Probably the redirecting is being done at the ISP not gmail. Contact
them and have them remove it, or block gmail's access to your account.

If gmail is grabbing the emails, you can block them (if gmail is sucking
the mail up) by changing your localnet.com password.

So:

1. Change your localnet.com password.
2. Use another program to get your email from localnet.com (like
thunderbird) if you don't have a web interface at localnet.com.
3. I do not think that gmail deletes email on your localnet.com account,
but copies it instead. (though once read, some email providers do delete
after a certain time period.)


Changing the password absolutely cannot do any good.
Click to expand...

I use a web interface at localnet.com.
Machts Nicht; the e-mail does not exist there as it gets directly
sent to my g-mail account.

It absolutely is re-directed by my ISP, localnet.com and at my
request about a year ago.
All e-mail going to my localnet account gets directed to my g-mail
account; it is not deleted anywhere nor is it copied anywhere.
 
On 9/20/2012 11:15 PM, Robert Baer wrote:
Changing the password absolutely cannot do any good.

I use a web interface at localnet.com.
Machts Nicht; the e-mail does not exist there as it gets directly
sent to my g-mail account.

It absolutely is re-directed by my ISP, localnet.com and at my
request about a year ago.
All e-mail going to my localnet account gets directed to my g-mail
account; it is not deleted anywhere nor is it copied anywhere.
Click to expand...
Best solution is then to tell LocalNet not to forward your email to
gmail, or at least that is the way it seems to me. Resolve the problem
then reimplement the forwarding if desired.

BTW, LocalNet should (easily) have the ability to forward to gmail and
to keep it on their server as well. And I think, gmail could be trained
to forward the email to another email account as well. (Yes, I know,
that starts to get confusing!)

--
I'm never going to grow up.
 
On 9/20/2012 11:09 PM, Robert Baer wrote:
I cannot change the re-direction; they do that.
I have e-mailed them asking them to stop the re-direction but AFAIK
they have not responded, or if they did, it was to my localnet account
and so got (you guessed it) re-directed to the inaccessible g-mail account.
I even told them to respond to my corporate account..no go.
Click to expand...
Call their tech support on the telephone, and talk to a live person.

--
I'm never going to grow up.
 
PeterD wrote:
BTW, LocalNet should (easily) have the ability to forward to gmail and
to keep it on their server as well. And I think, gmail could be trained
to forward the email to another email account as well. (Yes, I know,
that starts to get confusing!)
Click to expand...
That's how I have mine set up--Godaddy automatically sends copies to a
Gmail account. When Godaddy had that DNS outage a couple of weeks back,
the Gmail copies were still showing up.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics

160 North State Road #203
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510
845-480-2058

hobbs at electrooptical dot net
http://electrooptical.net
 
PeterD wrote:
On 9/20/2012 11:15 PM, Robert Baer wrote:
Changing the password absolutely cannot do any good.

I use a web interface at localnet.com.
Machts Nicht; the e-mail does not exist there as it gets directly
sent to my g-mail account.

It absolutely is re-directed by my ISP, localnet.com and at my
request about a year ago.
All e-mail going to my localnet account gets directed to my g-mail
account; it is not deleted anywhere nor is it copied anywhere.

Best solution is then to tell LocalNet not to forward your email to
gmail, or at least that is the way it seems to me. Resolve the problem
then reimplement the forwarding if desired.

BTW, LocalNet should (easily) have the ability to forward to gmail and
to keep it on their server as well. And I think, gmail could be trained
to forward the email to another email account as well. (Yes, I know,
that starts to get confusing!)
Click to expand...

If he changes his password at the ISP level, Gmail can no longer log
in to access it.
 
Phil Hobbs wrote:
PeterD wrote:



BTW, LocalNet should (easily) have the ability to forward to gmail and
to keep it on their server as well. And I think, gmail could be trained
to forward the email to another email account as well. (Yes, I know,
that starts to get confusing!)

That's how I have mine set up--Godaddy automatically sends copies to a
Gmail account. When Godaddy had that DNS outage a couple of weeks back,
the Gmail copies were still showing up.
Click to expand...

Some StartLogic (hosting) users are having ongoing trouble with their
email.
 
On 09/21/2012 05:32 PM, Robert Baer wrote:
Michael A. Terrell wrote:

PeterD wrote:

On 9/20/2012 11:15 PM, Robert Baer wrote:
Changing the password absolutely cannot do any good.

I use a web interface at localnet.com.
Machts Nicht; the e-mail does not exist there as it gets directly
sent to my g-mail account.

It absolutely is re-directed by my ISP, localnet.com and at my
request about a year ago.
All e-mail going to my localnet account gets directed to my g-mail
account; it is not deleted anywhere nor is it copied anywhere.

Best solution is then to tell LocalNet not to forward your email to
gmail, or at least that is the way it seems to me. Resolve the problem
then reimplement the forwarding if desired.

BTW, LocalNet should (easily) have the ability to forward to gmail and
to keep it on their server as well. And I think, gmail could be trained
to forward the email to another email account as well. (Yes, I know,
that starts to get confusing!)


If he changes his password at the ISP level, Gmail can no longer log
in to access it.
1) AFAIK gmail does not "log in"; the e-mails get forwarded "directly".
2) Changing my localnet password cannot and will not change any of the
dynamics..
Click to expand...
You need to get LocalNet to change their MX records for your email
account. Once you get hold of somebody who knows how to do that, you
should be in good shape.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics

160 North State Road #203
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

hobbs at electrooptical dot net
http://electrooptical.net
 
PeterD wrote:
On 9/20/2012 11:15 PM, Robert Baer wrote:
Changing the password absolutely cannot do any good.

I use a web interface at localnet.com.
Machts Nicht; the e-mail does not exist there as it gets directly
sent to my g-mail account.

It absolutely is re-directed by my ISP, localnet.com and at my
request about a year ago.
All e-mail going to my localnet account gets directed to my g-mail
account; it is not deleted anywhere nor is it copied anywhere.

Best solution is then to tell LocalNet not to forward your email to
gmail, or at least that is the way it seems to me. Resolve the problem
then reimplement the forwarding if desired.

BTW, LocalNet should (easily) have the ability to forward to gmail and
to keep it on their server as well. And I think, gmail could be trained
to forward the email to another email account as well. (Yes, I know,
that starts to get confusing!)

When i asked that a COPY be forwarded (so that the "original" be
Click to expand...
kept), they responded that they could only forward.
 
Phil Hobbs wrote:
PeterD wrote:



BTW, LocalNet should (easily) have the ability to forward to gmail and
to keep it on their server as well. And I think, gmail could be trained
to forward the email to another email account as well. (Yes, I know,
that starts to get confusing!)

That's how I have mine set up--Godaddy automatically sends copies to a
Gmail account. When Godaddy had that DNS outage a couple of weeks back,
the Gmail copies were still showing up.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

Check, copies are always the best - even if the "origina;s" contain
Click to expand...
50% spam after crappy filtering - which was why i asked for themto be
sent to the g-mail account.
 
Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Phil Hobbs wrote:

PeterD wrote:



BTW, LocalNet should (easily) have the ability to forward to gmail and
to keep it on their server as well. And I think, gmail could be trained
to forward the email to another email account as well. (Yes, I know,
that starts to get confusing!)

That's how I have mine set up--Godaddy automatically sends copies to a
Gmail account. When Godaddy had that DNS outage a couple of weeks back,
the Gmail copies were still showing up.


Some StartLogic (hosting) users are having ongoing trouble with their
email.
Thanks; will stay away from them.
Click to expand...
 
Michael A. Terrell wrote:
PeterD wrote:

On 9/20/2012 11:15 PM, Robert Baer wrote:
Changing the password absolutely cannot do any good.

I use a web interface at localnet.com.
Machts Nicht; the e-mail does not exist there as it gets directly
sent to my g-mail account.

It absolutely is re-directed by my ISP, localnet.com and at my
request about a year ago.
All e-mail going to my localnet account gets directed to my g-mail
account; it is not deleted anywhere nor is it copied anywhere.

Best solution is then to tell LocalNet not to forward your email to
gmail, or at least that is the way it seems to me. Resolve the problem
then reimplement the forwarding if desired.

BTW, LocalNet should (easily) have the ability to forward to gmail and
to keep it on their server as well. And I think, gmail could be trained
to forward the email to another email account as well. (Yes, I know,
that starts to get confusing!)


If he changes his password at the ISP level, Gmail can no longer log
in to access it.
1) AFAIK gmail does not "log in"; the e-mails get forwarded "directly".
Click to expand...
2) Changing my localnet password cannot and will not change any of
the dynamics..
 
PeterD wrote:
On 9/20/2012 11:09 PM, Robert Baer wrote:
I cannot change the re-direction; they do that.
I have e-mailed them asking them to stop the re-direction but AFAIK
they have not responded, or if they did, it was to my localnet account
and so got (you guessed it) re-directed to the inaccessible g-mail
account.
I even told them to respond to my corporate account..no go.

Call their tech support on the telephone, and talk to a live person.

Have done that; all i get is SPAM, which was why i had them re-direct
Click to expand...
in the first place.
NO peep from Google..
 
On 2012-09-20, Robert Baer <robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote:

3) Nothing wrong with the g-mail interface; they just give you _NO_ way
to recover info outside their "box" which only allows the original
account info of robertbaer@localnet.com (all e-mails to that are
re-directed to the g-mail account).
Click to expand...
That's kind of vague and ranty. What is this "box"?

I access my gmail via POP3.

--
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On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 02:00:54 -0800, Robert Baer <robertbaer@localnet.com>
wrote:

Grant wrote:
On Wed, 19 Sep 2012 21:36:33 -0800, Robert Baer<robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote:

Got a catch-22 here:
Am having all my mail from localnet.com forwarded to my g-mail
account, so any response from google "help" winds up IN the g-mail account.

Queries to localnet are answered to my localnet e-mail.

I see no way that i can respond to the g-mail account "help" methods
for username and/or user password recovery, and have their response show
elsewhere (eg: my corporate e-mail).

Oops, you forgot to specify mobile phone or ISP email for password
recovery?

What's wrong with using the gmail.com web interface?

Grant.

HELP??
1) NO mobile phone.
2) My ISP _is_ localnet.com .
3) Nothing wrong with the g-mail interface; they just give you _NO_ way
to recover info outside their "box" which only allows the original
account info of robertbaer@localnet.com (all e-mails to that are
re-directed to the g-mail account).
Click to expand...
So it goes there first and then to your gmail account like usual. I don't
get the problem.

?-)
 
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