OT: data transfer speed

[Robert Baer]

Browser: Netscape 7.2, but this seems to be a common problem without
regard to browser (the alt.netscape NG was not useful on this).
The little dual-monitor Dial-Up networking icon, lower right is
reporting the UART speed and not the modem communication rate.
How does one get it to report correctly?

 

[Ross Herbert]

That little icon is part of Windows OS (I assume you are using
Windows). As such it only knows about the the maximum speed which the
serial interface can handle since the real-time serial data transfer
rate can vary according to conditions.

In Windows XP for example - I have a broadband cable connection - the
little icon reports the internet connection speed is 8Mbps. This is
simply the maximum speed possible via the ethernet port connected to
the cable modem but the actual speed might vary.



On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 05:31:32 GMT, Robert Baer
<robertbaer@earthlink.net> wrote:

Browser: Netscape 7.2, but this seems to be a common problem without
regard to browser (the alt.netscape NG was not useful on this).
The little dual-monitor Dial-Up networking icon, lower right is
reporting the UART speed and not the modem communication rate.
How does one get it to report correctly?

 

[Ken Taylor]

With broadband connections you actually do connect at the maximum, in your
case 8Mbps, but you are limited in throughput by the ISP. You can check this
in the modem status (assuming it's smart enough to give you access).

Ken

"Ross Herbert" <rherber1SPAMEX@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
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That little icon is part of Windows OS (I assume you are using
Windows). As such it only knows about the the maximum speed which the
serial interface can handle since the real-time serial data transfer
rate can vary according to conditions.

In Windows XP for example - I have a broadband cable connection - the
little icon reports the internet connection speed is 8Mbps. This is
simply the maximum speed possible via the ethernet port connected to
the cable modem but the actual speed might vary.



On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 05:31:32 GMT, Robert Baer
robertbaer@earthlink.net> wrote:

Browser: Netscape 7.2, but this seems to be a common problem without
regard to browser (the alt.netscape NG was not useful on this).
The little dual-monitor Dial-Up networking icon, lower right is
reporting the UART speed and not the modem communication rate.
How does one get it to report correctly?

 

[Rich Grise]

On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 05:31:32 +0000, Robert Baer wrote:

Browser: Netscape 7.2, but this seems to be a common problem without
regard to browser (the alt.netscape NG was not useful on this).
The little dual-monitor Dial-Up networking icon, lower right is
reporting the UART speed and not the modem communication rate.
How does one get it to report correctly?

Find where you enter your "modem init string" and add, I think, "X1",
which reports the actual negotiated connect speed, rather than the
speed that was commanded.

You might have to look it up - I don't remember the exact code, but
I did do it once, and it worked. I just now got "X1" from
http://neptune.lisa.univ-paris12.fr/Electronik/Hayes.htm

Good Luck!
Rich

 

[Robert Baer]

Ross Herbert wrote:

That little icon is part of Windows OS (I assume you are using
Windows). As such it only knows about the the maximum speed which the
serial interface can handle since the real-time serial data transfer
rate can vary according to conditions.

In Windows XP for example - I have a broadband cable connection - the
little icon reports the internet connection speed is 8Mbps. This is
simply the maximum speed possible via the ethernet port connected to
the cable modem but the actual speed might vary.



On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 05:31:32 GMT, Robert Baer
robertbaer@earthlink.net> wrote:


Browser: Netscape 7.2, but this seems to be a common problem without
regard to browser (the alt.netscape NG was not useful on this).
The little dual-monitor Dial-Up networking icon, lower right is
reporting the UART speed and not the modem communication rate.
How does one get it to report correctly?


Incorrect; it can report either the UART baud rate (set rate), *or*

the modem baud rate (can change during use).
I need to know how to make it work correctly, namely report the modem
rate.

 

[Robert Baer]

Rich Grise wrote:

On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 05:31:32 +0000, Robert Baer wrote:


Browser: Netscape 7.2, but this seems to be a common problem without
regard to browser (the alt.netscape NG was not useful on this).
The little dual-monitor Dial-Up networking icon, lower right is
reporting the UART speed and not the modem communication rate.
How does one get it to report correctly?


Find where you enter your "modem init string" and add, I think, "X1",
which reports the actual negotiated connect speed, rather than the
speed that was commanded.

You might have to look it up - I don't remember the exact code, but
I did do it once, and it worked. I just now got "X1" from
http://neptune.lisa.univ-paris12.fr/Electronik/Hayes.htm

Good Luck!
Rich


I will give that a try, but i never had to do that before,and the

system defaulted to modem rate; the newsystem defaulted to UART rate.

 

[Rich Grise]

On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 10:22:05 +0000, Robert Baer wrote:

Rich Grise wrote:

On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 05:31:32 +0000, Robert Baer wrote:


Browser: Netscape 7.2, but this seems to be a common problem without
regard to browser (the alt.netscape NG was not useful on this).
The little dual-monitor Dial-Up networking icon, lower right is
reporting the UART speed and not the modem communication rate.
How does one get it to report correctly?


Find where you enter your "modem init string" and add, I think, "X1",
which reports the actual negotiated connect speed, rather than the
speed that was commanded.

You might have to look it up - I don't remember the exact code, but
I did do it once, and it worked. I just now got "X1" from
http://neptune.lisa.univ-paris12.fr/Electronik/Hayes.htm

Good Luck!
Rich


I will give that a try, but i never had to do that before,and the
system defaulted to modem rate; the newsystem defaulted to UART rate.

I'm guessing that there's a difference in the default (i.e., comes with
the system out of the box) modem init string from one box to the other.

I'm fairly confident that looking at the modem init strings could tell
you something about the differences here.

Or, it could be a difference in the modem's own default setup. Take
a look, and let us know what you find out, OK?

Good Luck!
Rich

 

[Robert Baer]

Rich Grise wrote:

On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 10:22:05 +0000, Robert Baer wrote:


Rich Grise wrote:


On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 05:31:32 +0000, Robert Baer wrote:



Browser: Netscape 7.2, but this seems to be a common problem without
regard to browser (the alt.netscape NG was not useful on this).
The little dual-monitor Dial-Up networking icon, lower right is
reporting the UART speed and not the modem communication rate.
How does one get it to report correctly?


Find where you enter your "modem init string" and add, I think, "X1",
which reports the actual negotiated connect speed, rather than the
speed that was commanded.

You might have to look it up - I don't remember the exact code, but
I did do it once, and it worked. I just now got "X1" from
http://neptune.lisa.univ-paris12.fr/Electronik/Hayes.htm

Good Luck!
Rich



I will give that a try, but i never had to do that before,and the
system defaulted to modem rate; the newsystem defaulted to UART rate.


I'm guessing that there's a difference in the default (i.e., comes with
the system out of the box) modem init string from one box to the other.

I'm fairly confident that looking at the modem init strings could tell
you something about the differences here.

Or, it could be a difference in the modem's own default setup. Take
a look, and let us know what you find out, OK?

Good Luck!
Rich


All systems that i still have show nothing for the modem init string.

I tried "X1" as well as "ATX1'with zero difference.
Any other suggestions?

 

[Robert Baer]

Robert Baer wrote:

Rich Grise wrote:

On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 10:22:05 +0000, Robert Baer wrote:


Rich Grise wrote:


On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 05:31:32 +0000, Robert Baer wrote:



Browser: Netscape 7.2, but this seems to be a common problem
without regard to browser (the alt.netscape NG was not useful on
this).
The little dual-monitor Dial-Up networking icon, lower right is
reporting the UART speed and not the modem communication rate.
How does one get it to report correctly?



Find where you enter your "modem init string" and add, I think, "X1",
which reports the actual negotiated connect speed, rather than the
speed that was commanded.

You might have to look it up - I don't remember the exact code, but
I did do it once, and it worked. I just now got "X1" from
http://neptune.lisa.univ-paris12.fr/Electronik/Hayes.htm

Good Luck!
Rich



I will give that a try, but i never had to do that before,and the
system defaulted to modem rate; the newsystem defaulted to UART rate.



I'm guessing that there's a difference in the default (i.e., comes with
the system out of the box) modem init string from one box to the other.

I'm fairly confident that looking at the modem init strings could tell
you something about the differences here.

Or, it could be a difference in the modem's own default setup. Take
a look, and let us know what you find out, OK?

Good Luck!
Rich


All systems that i still have show nothing for the modem init string.
I tried "X1" as well as "ATX1'with zero difference.
Any other suggestions?
Messing around with a different modem driver (i lied and installed a

standard modem), additional "init" strings, and a different modem (one
that had a real Rockwell chip in it) and found the following:
The stupid modem was the problem: "CenDyne" brand "P/N:56K RS-232
Modem" FCC registration number US: 5RJFB09BAME-CA95.
It *always* reports the com port speed and !cannot! report the line
communication rate.
Pisser!
Steer clear of these; they seem to be common and might be the only
external modems that one can buy new.

 

[Rich Grise]

On Sun, 01 May 2005 03:56:58 +0000, Robert Baer wrote:

Rich Grise wrote:
....
Or, it could be a difference in the modem's own default setup. Take
a look, and let us know what you find out, OK?

All systems that i still have show nothing for the modem init string.
I tried "X1" as well as "ATX1'with zero difference.
Any other suggestions?

Not really, other than, "Ask around."

Sorry.
Rich

 

[Robert Baer]

Rich Grise wrote:

On Sun, 01 May 2005 03:56:58 +0000, Robert Baer wrote:

Rich Grise wrote:

...

Or, it could be a difference in the modem's own default setup. Take
a look, and let us know what you find out, OK?


All systems that i still have show nothing for the modem init string.
I tried "X1" as well as "ATX1'with zero difference.
Any other suggestions?


Not really, other than, "Ask around."

Sorry.
Rich

Messing around with a different modem driver (i lied and installed a

standard modem), additional "init" strings, and a different modem (one
that had a real Rockwell chip in it) and found the following:
The stupid modem was the problem: "CenDyne" brand "P/N:56K RS-232
Modem" FCC registration number US: 5RJFB09BAME-CA95.
It *always* reports the com port speed and !cannot! report the line
communication rate.
Pisser!
Steer clear of these; they seem to be common and might be the only
external modems that one can buy new.