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Jim Thompson
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On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 20:20:39 GMT, "Clarence" <no@No.com> wrote:
flat surface.
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I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
I have one of those drill guides that expedites square drilling to any
flat surface.
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"Winfield Hill" <whill_a@t_rowland-dotties-harvard-dot.s-edu> schreef in
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this cleaning lady was not some elephant.
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Or get a decent bookcase and ditch the plywood rubbish. I assume
this cleaning lady was not some elephant.
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Jim Thompson
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On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 16:43:49 -0500, "Charles Schuler"
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pilot hole before fully dried. Then drill out to 1/4" when fully
hardened. But wood dough can be difficult to drill, so I'm tending
now toward the insert approach mentioned by Spehro and Clarence.
...Jim Thompson
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I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
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My first thought was to fill with a good wood paste, then drill a
pilot hole before fully dried. Then drill out to 1/4" when fully
hardened. But wood dough can be difficult to drill, so I'm tending
now toward the insert approach mentioned by Spehro and Clarence.
...Jim Thompson
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Spehro Pefhany
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On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 21:19:11 GMT, the renowned "Clarence" <no@No.com>
wrote:
x 4 or whatever, you could twist it so that it would center the hole
on the edge. It would hold a drill perpendicular to a surface, and a
bunch of other things too- really a cute mechanical design. Kind of
smoked plastic with a bunch of notched ears on it. But I couldn't find
them at the hardware store when I wanted to buy one. 8-(
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I recall seeing a drill guide that would fit on the edge or end of a 2
x 4 or whatever, you could twist it so that it would center the hole
on the edge. It would hold a drill perpendicular to a surface, and a
bunch of other things too- really a cute mechanical design. Kind of
smoked plastic with a bunch of notched ears on it. But I couldn't find
them at the hardware store when I wanted to buy one. 8-(
Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
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Spehro Pefhany
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On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 21:33:53 +0100, the renowned "Frank Bemelman"
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similar pressboard type stuff. Fine if you never overstress them or
try to move them, otherwise they literally fall apart.
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<f.bemelmanx@xs4all.invalid.nl> wrote:
Plywood is the good stuff. Most bookcases sold here are Ikea or
similar pressboard type stuff. Fine if you never overstress them or
try to move them, otherwise they literally fall apart.
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"Spehro Pefhany" <speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> schreef in bericht
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some reinforcements in the edges, made of pine wood. I bought
two square boxes on wheels and put them together, used as a
moveable room divider, with my 42' (;-)) flatscreen on top of
it. My wife doesn't dare to touch it.
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Yes, Ikea stuff is sometimes simple laminated card board, with
some reinforcements in the edges, made of pine wood. I bought
two square boxes on wheels and put them together, used as a
moveable room divider, with my 42' (;-)) flatscreen on top of
it. My wife doesn't dare to touch it.
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Procrastinate. How about a garage-book-sale next saturday ?
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Nicholas O. Lindan
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1) Get a four right angle 1"x1" (or so) brackets and four FH wood screws.
Screw the brackets to the sides of the bookcase, and set the shelf on
the hanging, stuck out, arm of the bracket.
2) Drill brand new holes for the pins. You know they don't have to be
in line with all the other holes ... drill them to the side by 1.5" so you
are well away from the shattered chipboard.
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Tim Wescott
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Spehro Pefhany wrote:
(even with two _very_ energetic boys). But when I say "heavy" I mean
_heavy_ -- I think our entertainment center weighs more than the piano
(which isn't pressboard, by the way).
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We have some of the heavier-grade pressboard stuff and it holds up well
(even with two _very_ energetic boys). But when I say "heavy" I mean
_heavy_ -- I think our entertainment center weighs more than the piano
(which isn't pressboard, by the way).
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Spehro Pefhany
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On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 23:14:03 +0100, the renowned "Frank Bemelman"
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speakers with wires hidden behind the walls.
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<f.bemelmanx@xs4all.invalid.nl> wrote:
Two guys spent an entire day installing ours including all the
speakers with wires hidden behind the walls.
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John Fields
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On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 12:35:43 -0700, Jim Thompson
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If you're going to continue to allow her to stand on the shelves, you
might want to consider getting rid of the pins altogether and
substituting them with 1/2" -> 3/4" thick supports as wide as the
shelves are deep and as tall as the separation between the shelves.
Take out the pins for the bottom shelf, place a support for each end
of the shelf at the bottom of the bookcase, against the risers, and
rest the bottom shelf on the supports. If she's going to be standing
on the next to the bottom shelf, then place a support at each end of
the bottom shelf, against the risers, and rest the next to the bottom
shelf on them. You could even secure them to the uprights of the
bookshelf with flathead wood or sheetmetal screws to make them more
secure and not depend on the weight of the books to keep them in
place.
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If you're going to continue to allow her to stand on the shelves, you
might want to consider getting rid of the pins altogether and
substituting them with 1/2" -> 3/4" thick supports as wide as the
shelves are deep and as tall as the separation between the shelves.
Take out the pins for the bottom shelf, place a support for each end
of the shelf at the bottom of the bookcase, against the risers, and
rest the bottom shelf on the supports. If she's going to be standing
on the next to the bottom shelf, then place a support at each end of
the bottom shelf, against the risers, and rest the next to the bottom
shelf on them. You could even secure them to the uprights of the
bookshelf with flathead wood or sheetmetal screws to make them more
secure and not depend on the weight of the books to keep them in
place.
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Doug Schultz
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"Jim Thompson" <thegreatone@example.com> wrote in message
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oversize and then plug it and and redrill it to original size
router could also work if you have the proper jig.
route out a proper sized piece and then route out the plug
if you were replacing a knot in the wood it would be called a dutchman I
think.
but just a spade bit for the oversizing works well and a hole saw to cut the
plug.
Doug
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if I wanted to make that a good solid repair I would drill the hole outSubject: Bookcase with Shelves supported by brass pins into 1/4"
holes drilled in side walls of bookcase body (oak plywood).
Problem: Cleaning lady stands on edge of a low shelf to reach up to
dust top shelves and rips out two pins, gouging out the drilled holes
:-(
I guess I can fill the holes and re-drill, but I was wondering if
there doesn't exist an over-size insert with a 1/4" hole in it?
Anyone have experience in this area? My Googling only produces how to
do it first time out, not how to repair.
...Jim Thompson
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I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
oversize and then plug it and and redrill it to original size
router could also work if you have the proper jig.
route out a proper sized piece and then route out the plug
if you were replacing a knot in the wood it would be called a dutchman I
think.
but just a spade bit for the oversizing works well and a hole saw to cut the
plug.
Doug
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my guess is that Constantines has it.
They seem to be a US mirror image of Leonard's shop
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They seem to be a US mirror image of Leonard's shop
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Jim Thompson
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On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 02:22:04 GMT, Rich The Philosophizer
<null@example.net> wrote:
...Jim Thompson
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I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
<null@example.net> wrote:
Hey! You ought to know me by now... I'm cheap ;-)
...Jim Thompson
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I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
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Rich The Philosophizer
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On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 17:31:54 -0600, John Fields wrote:
Cheers!
Rich
Or you could buy a step-stool. Or find a big box... ;-)
Cheers!
Rich
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Paul Hovnanian P.E.
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Doug Schultz wrote:
of some dowel stock*. Drill out the damaged holes and saw some plugs out
of the dowel slightly longer than the hole depth. Glue in place and sand
to match the existing surface. Redrill 1/4 inch holes.
*get some hard wood for the dowel stock. Something like 1 inch dia.
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Just use a spade (or better yet, a forstner bit) that matches the O.D."Jim Thompson" <thegreatone@example.com> wrote in message
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Subject: Bookcase with Shelves supported by brass pins into 1/4"
holes drilled in side walls of bookcase body (oak plywood).
Problem: Cleaning lady stands on edge of a low shelf to reach up to
dust top shelves and rips out two pins, gouging out the drilled holes
:-(
I guess I can fill the holes and re-drill, but I was wondering if
there doesn't exist an over-size insert with a 1/4" hole in it?
Anyone have experience in this area? My Googling only produces how to
do it first time out, not how to repair.
...Jim Thompson
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| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
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I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
if I wanted to make that a good solid repair I would drill the hole out
oversize and then plug it and and redrill it to original size
router could also work if you have the proper jig.
route out a proper sized piece and then route out the plug
if you were replacing a knot in the wood it would be called a dutchman I
think.
but just a spade bit for the oversizing works well and a hole saw to cut the
plug.
of some dowel stock*. Drill out the damaged holes and saw some plugs out
of the dowel slightly longer than the hole depth. Glue in place and sand
to match the existing surface. Redrill 1/4 inch holes.
*get some hard wood for the dowel stock. Something like 1 inch dia.
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Paul Hovnanian P.E.
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Rich The Philosophizer wrote:
One with nice long legs and a french maid's outfit with the little
miniskirt.
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SHIFT TO THE LEFT! SHIFT TO THE RIGHT!
POP UP, PUSH DOWN, BYTE, BYTE, BYTE!
Hire a taller cleaning lady.
One with nice long legs and a french maid's outfit with the little
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Doug Schultz
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"Paul Hovnanian P.E." <Paul@Hovnanian.com> wrote in message
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that is why I suggested a hole saw.
Doug
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if you use a dowel the grain runs the wrong wayDoug Schultz wrote:
"Jim Thompson" <thegreatone@example.com> wrote in message
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Subject: Bookcase with Shelves supported by brass pins into 1/4"
holes drilled in side walls of bookcase body (oak plywood).
Problem: Cleaning lady stands on edge of a low shelf to reach up to
dust top shelves and rips out two pins, gouging out the drilled holes
:-(
I guess I can fill the holes and re-drill, but I was wondering if
there doesn't exist an over-size insert with a 1/4" hole in it?
Anyone have experience in this area? My Googling only produces how to
do it first time out, not how to repair.
...Jim Thompson
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| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona Voice
| E-mail Address at Website Fax
| http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |
I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
if I wanted to make that a good solid repair I would drill the hole out
oversize and then plug it and and redrill it to original size
router could also work if you have the proper jig.
route out a proper sized piece and then route out the plug
if you were replacing a knot in the wood it would be called a dutchman I
think.
but just a spade bit for the oversizing works well and a hole saw to cut
the
plug.
Just use a spade (or better yet, a forstner bit) that matches the O.D.
of some dowel stock*. Drill out the damaged holes and saw some plugs out
of the dowel slightly longer than the hole depth. Glue in place and sand
to match the existing surface. Redrill 1/4 inch holes.
*get some hard wood for the dowel stock. Something like 1 inch dia.
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means he uses to frighten you. -- Eric Hoffer
that is why I suggested a hole saw.
Doug