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Jim Thompson

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Subject: Bookcase with Shelves supported by brass pins into 1/4"
holes drilled in side walls of bookcase body (oak plywood).

Problem: Cleaning lady stands on edge of a low shelf to reach up to
dust top shelves and rips out two pins, gouging out the drilled holes
:-(

I guess I can fill the holes and re-drill, but I was wondering if
there doesn't exist an over-size insert with a 1/4" hole in it?

Anyone have experience in this area? My Googling only produces how to
do it first time out, not how to repair.

...Jim Thompson
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I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
 
Jim Thompson wrote...
Subject: Bookcase with Shelves supported by brass pins into 1/4"
holes drilled in side walls of bookcase body (oak plywood).

Problem: Cleaning lady stands on edge of a low shelf to reach up to
dust top shelves and rips out two pins, gouging out the drilled holes
:-(

I guess I can fill the holes and re-drill, but I was wondering if
there doesn't exist an over-size insert with a 1/4" hole in it?
Click to expand...
Time to get a little piece of hardwood and break out the wood lathe.


--
Thanks,
- Win
 
"Jim Thompson" <thegreatone@example.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 20:20:39 GMT, "Clarence" <no@No.com> wrote:


"Jim Thompson" <thegreatone@example.com> wrote in message
news:ij62p0pcf9h5gu112ilqe0ndvclh1ri4dk@4ax.com...
Subject: Bookcase with Shelves supported by brass pins into 1/4"
holes drilled in side walls of bookcase body (oak plywood).

Problem: Cleaning lady stands on edge of a low shelf to reach up to
dust top shelves and rips out two pins, gouging out the drilled holes
:-(

I guess I can fill the holes and re-drill, but I was wondering if
there doesn't exist an over-size insert with a 1/4" hole in it?

Anyone have experience in this area? My Googling only produces how to
do it first time out, not how to repair.

...Jim Thompson

Flanged Bearings are one way. see

http://www.mcmaster.com/

Select: bearings/ flanged/ .25 shaft / select depth and OD to suit the hole
/ I
recommend the Bronze for durability.

Used these to repair library shelves for a local school.
The trick is to be sure to get the oversized holes centered.


I have one of those drill guides that expedites square drilling to any
flat surface.

...Jim Thompson
Click to expand...
Then it will be pretty easy to install these inserts. I also have a drill
guide, but I can't remember where or when I bought it, and it has no label on
it.

The Guides I installed about 15 years ago are still doing the job. So I know it
is a good way to go for a repair.
 
Jim Thompson schrieb:

Subject: Bookcase with Shelves supported by brass pins into 1/4"
holes drilled in side walls of bookcase body (oak plywood).

Problem: Cleaning lady stands on edge of a low shelf to reach up to
dust top shelves and rips out two pins, gouging out the drilled holes
:-(

I guess I can fill the holes and re-drill, but I was wondering if
there doesn't exist an over-size insert with a 1/4" hole in it?

Anyone have experience in this area? My Googling only produces how to
do it first time out, not how to repair.

...Jim Thompson
Click to expand...

You might also use a cork ;)
But you could also try to get hold of something called a 'chemical cement'
like WIT-C100
http://www.wurthcanada.com/product/metal/page3/
There should be alternate products from other companies.

Regards
Markus
 
Fill the four holes and drill four new ones above or below.
 
Jim Thompson wrote...
Spehro Pefhany wrote:

http://www.leevalley.com/hardware/page.asp?page=40484&category=3,43648,43649&abspage=1&ccurrency=1&SID=
http://www.leevalley.com/hardware/page.asp?page=43649&SID=&ccurrency=1&category=3%2C43648

PERFECTO!! Thanks, Spehro! I knew my experience couldn't be the
"first event" ;-)
Click to expand...
Too bad we don't all live in Lee Valley.


--
Thanks,
- Win
 
On 9 Nov 2004 14:21:23 -0800, the renowned Winfield Hill
<whill_a@t_rowland-dotties-harvard-dot.s-edu> wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote...

Spehro Pefhany wrote:

http://www.leevalley.com/hardware/page.asp?page=40484&category=3,43648,43649&abspage=1&ccurrency=1&SID=
http://www.leevalley.com/hardware/page.asp?page=43649&SID=&ccurrency=1&category=3%2C43648

PERFECTO!! Thanks, Spehro! I knew my experience couldn't be the
"first event" ;-)

Too bad we don't all live in Lee Valley.
Click to expand...
They'll deliver anywhere in North America at a reasonable price, money
back guarantee. Nice and often unique stuff at very good prices,
mostly for woodworkers (want to buy handles for making a pet casket or
a lift for a sewing machine?).

Unfortunately, their website is one of the worst I've ever
experienced. My printed hardware catalog wasn't at hand, so I used the
"site search" option on Google to find those items. 8-(


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
--
"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward"
speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com
Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com
 
On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 14:54:57 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:

On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 16:43:49 -0500, "Charles Schuler"
charleschuler@comcast.net> wrote:

Fill the four holes and drill four new ones above or below.


My first thought was to fill with a good wood paste, then drill a
pilot hole before fully dried. Then drill out to 1/4" when fully
hardened. But wood dough can be difficult to drill, so I'm tending
now toward the insert approach mentioned by Spehro and Clarence.
Click to expand...
Well, I'll chime in and third the insert idea here. I'd be surprised
if you couldn't find something already made, at a well-stocked
hardware store.

Or if you want to go "fixer-upper", just plastic wood the holes
and drill new ones.

<editorial>
But heck, Jim! You're a republican! Just get a new bookcase, and
donate the busted one to the poor people! ;-)
</editorial>

Good Luck!
Rich
 
On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 23:27:45 +0100, Frank Bemelman wrote:

"Jim Thompson" <thegreatone@example.com> schreef in bericht
news:qme2p01fvbnceq28ba6lc63cfl3tuvu596@4ax.com...
On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 16:43:49 -0500, "Charles Schuler"
charleschuler@comcast.net> wrote:

Fill the four holes and drill four new ones above or below.


My first thought was to fill with a good wood paste, then drill a
pilot hole before fully dried. Then drill out to 1/4" when fully
hardened. But wood dough can be difficult to drill, so I'm tending
now toward the insert approach mentioned by Spehro and Clarence.

Procrastinate. How about a garage-book-sale next saturday ?
Click to expand...
Next time you're on a road trip, keep an eye out for used bricks.

;^j
Rich
 
On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 04:44:30 GMT, the renowned "Doug Schultz"
<Douglas_Schultz@hotmail.com> wrote:
if you use a dowel the grain runs the wrong way
that is why I suggested a hole saw.

Doug
Click to expand...
Use brass or Delrin rod and grain won't much matter. ;-)


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
--
"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward"
speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com
Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com
 
On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 19:22:04 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:

On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 02:22:04 GMT, Rich The Philosophizer
null@example.net> wrote:

On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 14:54:57 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:

On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 16:43:49 -0500, "Charles Schuler"
charleschuler@comcast.net> wrote:

Fill the four holes and drill four new ones above or below.


My first thought was to fill with a good wood paste, then drill a
pilot hole before fully dried. Then drill out to 1/4" when fully
hardened. But wood dough can be difficult to drill, so I'm tending
now toward the insert approach mentioned by Spehro and Clarence.


Well, I'll chime in and third the insert idea here. I'd be surprised
if you couldn't find something already made, at a well-stocked
hardware store.

Or if you want to go "fixer-upper", just plastic wood the holes
and drill new ones.

editorial
But heck, Jim! You're a republican! Just get a new bookcase, and
donate the busted one to the poor people! ;-)
/editorial

Good Luck!
Rich


Hey! You ought to know me by now... I'm cheap ;-)

Yabbut, you got more cash, so you're first beer!
Click to expand...

%-}
Rich
 
On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 00:03:11 -0500, Spehro Pefhany wrote:

On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 04:44:30 GMT, the renowned "Doug Schultz"
Douglas_Schultz@hotmail.com> wrote:

if you use a dowel the grain runs the wrong way
that is why I suggested a hole saw.

Doug

Use brass or Delrin rod and grain won't much matter. ;-)

Why does this make me want to go search out "Rube Goldberg?"
Click to expand...

;^j
Rich
 
["Followup-To:" header set to sci.electronics.design.]
On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 16:58:13 -0500,
Spehro Pefhany <speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote
in Msg. <49f2p0pah6riaerovggnp2d6n3gbqmcern@4ax.com>

Plywood is the good stuff.
Click to expand...
There's still a difference between plywood and multiplex. Multiplex, often
called plywood in Europe, is the really good stuff, while plywood in the
US refers to the stuff that they make houses from, which is really crappy.

--Daniel
 
On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 12:35:43 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:

Subject: Bookcase with Shelves supported by brass pins into 1/4"
holes drilled in side walls of bookcase body (oak plywood).

Problem: Cleaning lady stands on edge of a low shelf to reach up to
dust top shelves and rips out two pins, gouging out the drilled holes
:-(

I guess I can fill the holes and re-drill, but I was wondering if
there doesn't exist an over-size insert with a 1/4" hole in it?

Anyone have experience in this area? My Googling only produces how to
do it first time out, not how to repair.

...Jim Thompson
Click to expand...
I'd have figured a W. By God hillbilly would just fill it in with JB
Weld and then use that high falutin' drill guide to restore the hole
;)
--
Best Regards,
Mike
 
Active8 wrote...
I'd have figured a W. By God hillbilly would just fill it in with JB
Weld and then use that high falutin' drill guide to restore the hole
Click to expand...
Liquid steel J-B Weld? http://www.jbweld.net/ Is that drillable?


--
Thanks,
- Win
 
Winfield Hill wrote:
Active8 wrote...

I'd have figured a W. By God hillbilly would just fill it in with JB
Weld and then use that high falutin' drill guide to restore the hole


Liquid steel J-B Weld? http://www.jbweld.net/ Is that drillable?
Click to expand...
Easily, it is just an epoxy.

-Chuck Harris
 
Active8 wrote:
On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 12:35:43 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:


Subject: Bookcase with Shelves supported by brass pins into 1/4"
holes drilled in side walls of bookcase body (oak plywood).

Problem: Cleaning lady stands on edge of a low shelf to reach up to
dust top shelves and rips out two pins, gouging out the drilled holes
:-(

I guess I can fill the holes and re-drill, but I was wondering if
there doesn't exist an over-size insert with a 1/4" hole in it?

Anyone have experience in this area? My Googling only produces how to
do it first time out, not how to repair.

...Jim Thompson


I'd have figured a W. By God hillbilly would just fill it in with JB
Weld and then use that high falutin' drill guide to restore the hole
;)
Click to expand...
What hole? Just embed the shelf support in the filler. What's with all
this sanding and drilling crap. Or- get some #8 x 2-1/2" drywall screws
and wind them into the shelf from the outside-or tap some dowels thru:

View in a fixed-width font such as Courier.

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John Ferrell wrote:

While you are at it, make certain the bookcase is anchored to the wall
and cannot topple over on her!
Click to expand...
Hehe- the price he pays for going with the low bidder:) She will burn
the house down next...or use the toilet brush on the sink fixtures or...
 
Jim Thompson wrote:

Subject: Bookcase with Shelves supported by brass pins into 1/4"
holes drilled in side walls of bookcase body (oak plywood).

Problem: Cleaning lady stands on edge of a low shelf to reach up to
dust top shelves and rips out two pins, gouging out the drilled holes
:-(

I guess I can fill the holes and re-drill, but I was wondering if
there doesn't exist an over-size insert with a 1/4" hole in it?

Anyone have experience in this area? My Googling only produces how to
do it first time out, not how to repair.
Click to expand...
Buy cleaning lady a long handled feather duster.


Graham
 
On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 07:11:15 GMT, Rich The Philosophizer
<null@example.net> wrote:

On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 19:22:04 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:

On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 02:22:04 GMT, Rich The Philosophizer
null@example.net> wrote:

On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 14:54:57 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:

On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 16:43:49 -0500, "Charles Schuler"
charleschuler@comcast.net> wrote:

Fill the four holes and drill four new ones above or below.


My first thought was to fill with a good wood paste, then drill a
pilot hole before fully dried. Then drill out to 1/4" when fully
hardened. But wood dough can be difficult to drill, so I'm tending
now toward the insert approach mentioned by Spehro and Clarence.


Well, I'll chime in and third the insert idea here. I'd be surprised
if you couldn't find something already made, at a well-stocked
hardware store.

Or if you want to go "fixer-upper", just plastic wood the holes
and drill new ones.

editorial
But heck, Jim! You're a republican! Just get a new bookcase, and
donate the busted one to the poor people! ;-)
/editorial

Good Luck!
Rich


Hey! You ought to know me by now... I'm cheap ;-)

Yabbut, you got more cash, so you're first beer!

%-}
Rich
Click to expand...
And I only drink the beer that Larkin sends me ;-)

(Actually I finally bought some myself when the local Safeway started
stocking it :)

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona Voice:(480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax:(480)460-2142 | Brass Rat |
| http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
 
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