OT: Acceptable temps from a chest freezer

[Jeßus]

Just bought a F&P chest freezer to replace an older chest freezer with
thermostat stuck on flat out (I'll look at replacing the thermostat
now that I have the new freezer to put the contents in).

I have the thermostat turned up to 5 (out of a maximum of 6) on the
F&P, yet the internal thermometer hasn't dropped below zero, or maybe
*just* below zero. It's in the exact same location as the old one,
which sat at about -20C using the same thermometer (keeping in mind
the thermostat was stuck on flat out).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refrigerator#Freezer says average freezer
temps should be -23 to -18 °C.

Personally I don't think zero degrees is good enough.
Opinions, please?

 

[Jasen Betts]

On 2012-03-09, Jeßus <none@all.invalid> wrote:

Just bought a F&P chest freezer to replace an older chest freezer with
thermostat stuck on flat out (I'll look at replacing the thermostat
now that I have the new freezer to put the contents in).

I have the thermostat turned up to 5 (out of a maximum of 6) on the
F&P, yet the internal thermometer hasn't dropped below zero, or maybe
*just* below zero. It's in the exact same location as the old one,
which sat at about -20C using the same thermometer (keeping in mind
the thermostat was stuck on flat out).

Is "5" hotter or colder than "3" ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refrigerator#Freezer says average freezer
temps should be -23 to -18 °C.

Personally I don't think zero degrees is good enough.
Opinions, please?

Zero degrees only if it's Farenheit.

Most packaged frozen food specifies at or below -18°C



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[The Pilot]

On Saturday, 10 March 2012 09:26:42 UTC+11, Jeßus wrote:

Just bought a F&P chest freezer to replace an older chest freezer with
thermostat stuck on flat out (I'll look at replacing the thermostat
now that I have the new freezer to put the contents in).

I have the thermostat turned up to 5 (out of a maximum of 6) on the
F&P, yet the internal thermometer hasn't dropped below zero, or maybe
*just* below zero. It's in the exact same location as the old one,
which sat at about -20C using the same thermometer (keeping in mind
the thermostat was stuck on flat out).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refrigerator#Freezer says average freezer
temps should be -23 to -18 °C.

Personally I don't think zero degrees is good enough.
Opinions, please?

Mine is set at -9c and I find it satisfactory. We used to use ice cream as a gauge. If it stayed solid but you could still insert a spoon, then that would be about right. But yes definitely below 0c

 

[Rheilly Phoull]

On 3/10/2012 6:26 AM, Jeßus wrote:

Just bought a F&P chest freezer to replace an older chest freezer with
thermostat stuck on flat out (I'll look at replacing the thermostat
now that I have the new freezer to put the contents in).

I have the thermostat turned up to 5 (out of a maximum of 6) on the
F&P, yet the internal thermometer hasn't dropped below zero, or maybe
*just* below zero. It's in the exact same location as the old one,
which sat at about -20C using the same thermometer (keeping in mind
the thermostat was stuck on flat out).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refrigerator#Freezer says average freezer
temps should be -23 to -18 °C.

Personally I don't think zero degrees is good enough.
Opinions, please?

Hmmm, 1 freezer 'stat u/s, 1 freezer 'stat OK low on gas.
What to do ??

Rheilly P

 

[Bob Milutinovic]

"Jeßus" <none@all.invalid> wrote in message
news:fa0ll71b9qcu3fk6484ekndb59pp3e7aea@4ax.com...

Just bought a F&P chest freezer to replace an older chest freezer with
thermostat stuck on flat out (I'll look at replacing the thermostat
now that I have the new freezer to put the contents in).

I have the thermostat turned up to 5 (out of a maximum of 6) on the
F&P, yet the internal thermometer hasn't dropped below zero, or maybe
*just* below zero. It's in the exact same location as the old one,
which sat at about -20C using the same thermometer (keeping in mind
the thermostat was stuck on flat out).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refrigerator#Freezer says average freezer
temps should be -23 to -18 °C.

Personally I don't think zero degrees is good enough.
Opinions, please?

Just some thoughts...

1. Dedicated freezers (chest freezers in particular) can take up to a week
to get to their optimal working state. A bit like the four-cylinder Prado
some bloke mentioned here not long ago - the tiny motor'll get the job done,
just give it time.

2. You need to have food in there; if you've got it running empty, it'll
likely never get to its proper working temperature. The more food you have
in there, the colder it'll get (strange but true!).

3. F&P don't have the world's best QA department. I bought a brand new F&P
fridge many years ago and had to get their technician out twice in the first
three weeks.

--
Bob Milutinovic
Cognicom

 

[Albm&ctd]

In article <fa0ll71b9qcu3fk6484ekndb59pp3e7aea@4ax.com>, none@all.invalid
says...

Just bought a F&P chest freezer to replace an older chest freezer with
thermostat stuck on flat out (I'll look at replacing the thermostat
now that I have the new freezer to put the contents in).

I have the thermostat turned up to 5 (out of a maximum of 6) on the
F&P, yet the internal thermometer hasn't dropped below zero, or maybe
*just* below zero. It's in the exact same location as the old one,
which sat at about -20C using the same thermometer (keeping in mind
the thermostat was stuck on flat out).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refrigerator#Freezer says average freezer
temps should be -23 to -18 °C.

Personally I don't think zero degrees is good enough.
Opinions, please?

I had all sorts of trouble with our F&P fridge from new, then bought another

thermostat and fitted that to make a fridge that has been faultless even since,
like it's 17 years old now.. so from this I'd suspect you have a similar
problem.

Al
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It's more fun to insult everyone.

 

[Noddy]

On 10/03/2012 9:26 AM, Jeßus wrote:

Just bought a F&P chest freezer to replace an older chest freezer with
thermostat stuck on flat out (I'll look at replacing the thermostat
now that I have the new freezer to put the contents in).

I have the thermostat turned up to 5 (out of a maximum of 6) on the
F&P, yet the internal thermometer hasn't dropped below zero, or maybe
*just* below zero. It's in the exact same location as the old one,
which sat at about -20C using the same thermometer (keeping in mind
the thermostat was stuck on flat out).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refrigerator#Freezer says average freezer
temps should be -23 to -18 °C.

Personally I don't think zero degrees is good enough.
Opinions, please?

I don't think it is either.

We have a F&P vertical freezer and while I don't recall if it has an
adjustable thermostat it sits constantly on -19 degrees. Similarly, the
freezer compartment of our Westinghouse fridge does have a thermostat
and a built in temp gauge, and we have that set to -18 degrees which is
just right for ice cream.




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Regards,
Noddy.

 

[Noddy]

On 10/03/2012 1:40 PM, Bob Milutinovic wrote:

3. F&P don't have the world's best QA department. I bought a brand new
F&P fridge many years ago and had to get their technician out twice in
the first three weeks.

Agree with that.

We bought a F&P dishwasher and it ran for 6 weeks before it shat itself,
and it took them 2 months to do anything about it. In the mean time I'd
replaced it with a Bosch and sent the F&P back to F&P for a refund.



--
Regards,
Noddy.

 

[The Red Krawler]

On 10/03/2012 8:26 AM, Jeßus wrote:

Just bought a F&P chest freezer to replace an older chest freezer with
thermostat stuck on flat out (I'll look at replacing the thermostat
now that I have the new freezer to put the contents in).

F&P is terrible.

I have the thermostat turned up to 5 (out of a maximum of 6) on the
F&P, yet the internal thermometer hasn't dropped below zero, or maybe
*just* below zero. It's in the exact same location as the old one,
which sat at about -20C using the same thermometer (keeping in mind
the thermostat was stuck on flat out).

Yes, I would expect to see even the most basic domestic chest freezer
hit -20°C (... eventually).

You've been a sold a lemon most likely. Personally I'd see this as a
good thing if you can take it back and get a refund. Find a Kelvinator /
Westinghouse / Whirlpool that's been made in Australia (just check the
nameplate - some models are made here, some overseas) and you'll get
much better performance and longevity.


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[Bob Milutinovic]

"The Red Krawler" <redkrawler@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:jjf4mj$jju$1@dont-email.me...

On 10/03/2012 8:26 AM, Jeßus wrote:
Just bought a F&P chest freezer to replace an older chest freezer with
thermostat stuck on flat out (I'll look at replacing the thermostat
now that I have the new freezer to put the contents in).

F&P is terrible.

I have the thermostat turned up to 5 (out of a maximum of 6) on the
F&P, yet the internal thermometer hasn't dropped below zero, or maybe
*just* below zero. It's in the exact same location as the old one,
which sat at about -20C using the same thermometer (keeping in mind
the thermostat was stuck on flat out).

Yes, I would expect to see even the most basic domestic chest freezer
hit -20°C (... eventually).

You've been a sold a lemon most likely. Personally I'd see this as a good
thing if you can take it back and get a refund. Find a Kelvinator /
Westinghouse / Whirlpool that's been made in Australia (just check the
nameplate - some models are made here, some overseas) and you'll get much
better performance and longevity.

Ummm... Unless something's drastically changed over the past few years,
you'll find that F&P refrigeration products are made in Queensland.

--
Bob Milutinovic
Cognicom

 

[Bob Milutinovic]

"kreed" <kenreed1999@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Mar 10, 10:41 pm, "Bob Milutinovic" <cogni...@gmail.com> wrote:
"The Red Krawler" <redkraw...@hotmail.com> wrote in
messagenews:jjf4mj$jju$1@dont-email.me...









On 10/03/2012 8:26 AM, Jeßus wrote:
Just bought a F&P chest freezer to replace an older chest freezer
with
thermostat stuck on flat out (I'll look at replacing the thermostat
now that I have the new freezer to put the contents in).

F&P is terrible.

I have the thermostat turned up to 5 (out of a maximum of 6) on the
F&P, yet the internal thermometer hasn't dropped below zero, or maybe
*just* below zero. It's in the exact same location as the old one,
which sat at about -20C using the same thermometer (keeping in mind
the thermostat was stuck on flat out).

Yes, I would expect to see even the most basic domestic chest freezer
hit -20°C (... eventually).

You've been a sold a lemon most likely. Personally I'd see this as a
good
thing if you can take it back and get a refund. Find a Kelvinator /
Westinghouse / Whirlpool that's been made in Australia (just check the
nameplate - some models are made here, some overseas) and you'll get
much
better performance and longevity.

Ummm... Unless something's drastically changed over the past few years,
you'll find that F&P refrigeration products are made in Queensland.

--
Bob Milutinovic
Cognicom


I think you will find that it was closed down



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fisher_%26_Paykel


According to this, they closed their Cleveland, QLD Australia plant in
2008.

reliability products with their dishwashers are also mentioned further
down the page.

"Oh my God, they killed Cleveland!" "You Bastards!"

So now there's literally _no_ reason to pay their extortionate prices.

--
Bob Milutinovic
Cognicom

 

[kreed]

On Mar 10, 6:51 pm, The Red Krawler <redkraw...@hotmail.com> wrote:

On 10/03/2012 8:26 AM, Jeßus wrote:

Just bought a F&P chest freezer to replace an older chest freezer with
thermostat stuck on flat out (I'll look at replacing the thermostat
now that I have the new freezer to put the contents in).

F&P is terrible.

I have the thermostat turned up to 5 (out of a maximum of 6) on the
F&P, yet the internal thermometer hasn't dropped below zero, or maybe
*just* below zero. It's in the exact same location as the old one,
which sat at about -20C using the same thermometer (keeping in mind
the thermostat was stuck on flat out).

Yes, I would expect to see even the most basic domestic chest freezer
hit -20°C (... eventually).


You've been a sold a lemon most likely. Personally I'd see this as a
good thing if you can take it back and get a refund. Find a Kelvinator /
Westinghouse / Whirlpool that's been made in Australia (just check the
nameplate - some models are made here, some overseas) and you'll get
much better performance and longevity.

Probably not a bad idea, and you are doing your little bit for local
jobs too.



Did the same with my mums fridge/freezer some 8 years back, the
locally
made 400L approx Westinghouse we got her has run really well in that
time, very nice fridge,
no problems, no rust, no broken shelves or internal fittings. From
memory it was
only $200 more than the crappier brands at the time, had a good energy
star rating
which has to be taken into account over the life of the unit.


The F&P that it replaced had problems with rust, and one shelf broke
in half after about 2 years, and
when examined, the plastic shelf design was very poor in my opinion.
I wouldn't buy that brand again, if I was looking long term

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[kreed]

On Mar 10, 10:41 pm, "Bob Milutinovic" <cogni...@gmail.com> wrote:

"The Red Krawler" <redkraw...@hotmail.com> wrote in messagenews:jjf4mj$jju$1@dont-email.me...









On 10/03/2012 8:26 AM, Jeßus wrote:
Just bought a F&P chest freezer to replace an older chest freezer with
thermostat stuck on flat out (I'll look at replacing the thermostat
now that I have the new freezer to put the contents in).

F&P is terrible.

I have the thermostat turned up to 5 (out of a maximum of 6) on the
F&P, yet the internal thermometer hasn't dropped below zero, or maybe
*just* below zero. It's in the exact same location as the old one,
which sat at about -20C using the same thermometer (keeping in mind
the thermostat was stuck on flat out).

Yes, I would expect to see even the most basic domestic chest freezer
hit -20°C (... eventually).

You've been a sold a lemon most likely. Personally I'd see this as a good
thing if you can take it back and get a refund. Find a Kelvinator /
Westinghouse / Whirlpool that's been made in Australia (just check the
nameplate - some models are made here, some overseas) and you'll get much
better performance and longevity.

Ummm... Unless something's drastically changed over the past few years,
you'll find that F&P refrigeration products are made in Queensland.

--
Bob Milutinovic
Cognicom

I think you will find that it was closed down



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fisher_%26_Paykel


According to this, they closed their Cleveland, QLD Australia plant in
2008.

reliability products with their dishwashers are also mentioned further
down the page.

 

[Baron]

Rheilly Phoull Inscribed thus:

On 3/10/2012 6:26 AM, Jeßus wrote:
Just bought a F&P chest freezer to replace an older chest freezer
with thermostat stuck on flat out (I'll look at replacing the
thermostat now that I have the new freezer to put the contents in).

I have the thermostat turned up to 5 (out of a maximum of 6) on the
F&P, yet the internal thermometer hasn't dropped below zero, or maybe
*just* below zero. It's in the exact same location as the old one,
which sat at about -20C using the same thermometer (keeping in mind
the thermostat was stuck on flat out).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refrigerator#Freezer says average
freezer temps should be -23 to -18 °C.

Personally I don't think zero degrees is good enough.
Opinions, please?

Hmmm, 1 freezer 'stat u/s, 1 freezer 'stat OK low on gas.
What to do ??

Rheilly P

Return it as faulty ! I agree the lack of gas. Probably a micro leak
in a pipe joint !

A few years back I bought a new freezer. It was fine for about 6-7
months but I had to keep turning up the stat to keep it cold enough.
At 10 months the stat was full up and the compressor was running
continuously.

We complained to the manufacturer who sent an engineer out, who said it
had lost its gas, he re-gassed it. 12 months later we were in the same
situation again. We again complained to the manufacturer who said
sorry its out of warranty. So we said that we were going to sue them !

10 days later we issued CCP against the company. A week after that we
had a new freezer and repayment of the CCP costs. No other
compensation though. The replacement freezer is absolutely fine, just
as the original one should have been.

HTH
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Best Regards:
Baron.

 

[Jeßus]

On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 09:26:42 +1100, Jeßus <none@all.invalid> wrote:

Err, I discovered the fridge thermometer I'd used must have had a
temporarily stuck dial...

Tried another thermometer and the freezer is at about -25°C, so all is
well. The original thermometer now agrees as well... must've jolted
something loose again I guess.

Thanks for the replies.

Just bought a F&P chest freezer to replace an older chest freezer with
thermostat stuck on flat out (I'll look at replacing the thermostat
now that I have the new freezer to put the contents in).

I have the thermostat turned up to 5 (out of a maximum of 6) on the
F&P, yet the internal thermometer hasn't dropped below zero, or maybe
*just* below zero. It's in the exact same location as the old one,
which sat at about -20C using the same thermometer (keeping in mind
the thermostat was stuck on flat out).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refrigerator#Freezer says average freezer
temps should be -23 to -18 °C.

Personally I don't think zero degrees is good enough.
Opinions, please?

 

[Jeßus]

On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 14:07:53 +1000, Albm&ctd
<alb_mandctdNOWMD@connexus.net.au> wrote:

In article <fa0ll71b9qcu3fk6484ekndb59pp3e7aea@4ax.com>, none@all.invalid
says...
Just bought a F&P chest freezer to replace an older chest freezer with
thermostat stuck on flat out (I'll look at replacing the thermostat
now that I have the new freezer to put the contents in).

I have the thermostat turned up to 5 (out of a maximum of 6) on the
F&P, yet the internal thermometer hasn't dropped below zero, or maybe
*just* below zero. It's in the exact same location as the old one,
which sat at about -20C using the same thermometer (keeping in mind
the thermostat was stuck on flat out).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refrigerator#Freezer says average freezer
temps should be -23 to -18 °C.

Personally I don't think zero degrees is good enough.
Opinions, please?

I had all sorts of trouble with our F&P fridge from new, then bought another
thermostat and fitted that to make a fridge that has been faultless even since,
like it's 17 years old now.. so from this I'd suspect you have a similar
problem.

All sorted out now - dodgy thermometer! My last (new) chest freezer
was a F&P, never had trouble with that and only sold it at the time
because I didnt need one foe a few years. But it's such a minefield
these days, picking between brands of whitegoods. They change things
all the time, so you never know.

 

[Jeßus]

On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 18:51:21 +1000, The Red Krawler
<redkrawler@hotmail.com> wrote:

On 10/03/2012 8:26 AM, Jeßus wrote:
Just bought a F&P chest freezer to replace an older chest freezer with
thermostat stuck on flat out (I'll look at replacing the thermostat
now that I have the new freezer to put the contents in).

F&P is terrible.

I have the thermostat turned up to 5 (out of a maximum of 6) on the
F&P, yet the internal thermometer hasn't dropped below zero, or maybe
*just* below zero. It's in the exact same location as the old one,
which sat at about -20C using the same thermometer (keeping in mind
the thermostat was stuck on flat out).

Yes, I would expect to see even the most basic domestic chest freezer
hit -20°C (... eventually).

You've been a sold a lemon most likely. Personally I'd see this as a
good thing if you can take it back and get a refund. Find a Kelvinator /
Westinghouse / Whirlpool that's been made in Australia (just check the
nameplate - some models are made here, some overseas) and you'll get
much better performance and longevity.

Sorted out the isssue - dodgy thermometer!

Problem is these days there's such a limited range in chest freezers
available, seeking out a specific size really limits your options.
And not all brands or models are sold down here in Tassie, which
limits it even more.

The F&P is the only one with an internal light, which I have to admit
swayed me a bit, plus the one I chose was heavily discounted -
superceded model I think.

 

[Jeßus]

On Sat, 10 Mar 2012 04:36:01 -0800 (PST), kreed
<kenreed1999@gmail.com> wrote:

The F&P that it replaced had problems with rust, and one shelf broke
in half after about 2 years, and
when examined, the plastic shelf design was very poor in my opinion.
I wouldn't buy that brand again, if I was looking long term

My 3 y/o Electrolux fridge has the same problem with the internal
plastics - brittle as all hell. I'm NOT impressed about that.
It's of the 'upside down' type, the two front covers for the freezer
drawers both broke ages ago and many cracks in the fridge section as
well.

 

[F Murtz]

The Red Krawler wrote:

On 10/03/2012 8:26 AM, Jeßus wrote:
Just bought a F&P chest freezer to replace an older chest freezer with
thermostat stuck on flat out (I'll look at replacing the thermostat
now that I have the new freezer to put the contents in).

F&P is terrible.

I have the thermostat turned up to 5 (out of a maximum of 6) on the
F&P, yet the internal thermometer hasn't dropped below zero, or maybe
*just* below zero. It's in the exact same location as the old one,
which sat at about -20C using the same thermometer (keeping in mind
the thermostat was stuck on flat out).

Yes, I would expect to see even the most basic domestic chest freezer
hit -20°C (... eventually).

You've been a sold a lemon most likely. Personally I'd see this as a
good thing if you can take it back and get a refund. Find a Kelvinator /
Westinghouse / Whirlpool that's been made in Australia (just check the
nameplate - some models are made here, some overseas) and you'll get
much better performance and longevity.


In my case,if I want an ice maker L&P are the only maker with one less

than 800mm wide which is my available space.

 

[The Red Krawler]

On 10/03/2012 11:24 PM, Bob Milutinovic wrote:

You've been a sold a lemon most likely. Personally I'd see this as
thing if you can take it back and get a refund. Find a Kelvinator /
Westinghouse / Whirlpool that's been made in Australia (just check
nameplate - some models are made here, some overseas) and you'll
better performance and longevity.

Ummm... Unless something's drastically changed over the past few years,
you'll find that F&P refrigeration products are made in Queensland.

I think you will find that it was closed down
According to this, they closed their Cleveland, QLD Australia plant in
2008.

So now there's literally _no_ reason to pay their extortionate prices.

F&P have never been any good, regardless of where they were made. And
definitely not worth paying a premium for.

I wasn't actually aware that they were ever made in Australia (I thought
they were a Kiwi mob).... but regardless my comment about being "made in
Australia" was purely for the Kelvinator / Westinghouse / Whirlpool
brands that have a combination of Australian-made and overseas-made
products. The Australian-made stuff is good gear. The overseas made
stuff is not so good. Prices usually vary accordingly. It's definitely
worth paying the small premium for the locally made product.

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