New recipes for origin of life may point to distant, inhabited planets...

[Jan Panteltje]

New recipes for origin of life may point way to distant, inhabited planets
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2023/09/230919155043.htm
Summary:
Life on a faraway planet -- if it\'s out there -- might not look anything like life on Earth. But there are only so many chemical ingredients in the universe\'s pantry, and only so many ways to mix them. Scientists have now exploited those limitations to write a cookbook of hundreds of chemical recipes with the potential to give rise to life.

Self-assembly, told you so!

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 2:33:48 PM UTC+10, Jan Panteltje wrote:

New recipes for origin of life may point way to distant, inhabited planets
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2023/09/230919155043.htm
Summary:
Life on a faraway planet -- if it\'s out there -- might not look anything like life on Earth. But there are only so many chemical ingredients in the universe\'s pantry, and only so many ways to mix them. Scientists have now exploited those limitations to write a cookbook of hundreds of chemical recipes with the potential to give rise to life.

Self-assembly, told you so!

Save the triumphalism until somebody finds some actual evidence.

The researchers have listed a bunch of potential life-starting chemicals, but this is just the hypothesis-generating stage. There\'s no experimental evidence to suggest that any of their hypotheses is right.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

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[John Larkin]

On Thu, 21 Sep 2023 04:33:40 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
wrote:

New recipes for origin of life may point way to distant, inhabited planets
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2023/09/230919155043.htm
Summary:
Life on a faraway planet -- if it\'s out there -- might not look anything like life on Earth. But there are only so many chemical ingredients in the universe\'s pantry, and only so many ways to mix them. Scientists have now exploited those limitations to write a cookbook of hundreds of chemical recipes with the potential to give rise to life.

Self-assembly, told you so!

A bunch of bottles filled with chemicals don\'t generate life any more
than a box full of electronic parts creates a computer. The issue
isn\'t parts, it\'s design.

DNA won\'t self-assemble from a jar full of colored water with stuff
dissolved. The math has been done on that.

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Friday, September 22, 2023 at 12:35:16 AM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:

On Thu, 21 Sep 2023 04:33:40 GMT, Jan Panteltje <al...@comet.invalid
wrote:
New recipes for origin of life may point way to distant, inhabited planets
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2023/09/230919155043.htm
Summary:
Life on a faraway planet -- if it\'s out there -- might not look anything like life on Earth. But there are only so many chemical ingredients in the universe\'s pantry, and only so many ways to mix them. Scientists have now exploited those limitations to write a cookbook of hundreds of chemical recipes with the potential to give rise to life.

Self-assembly, told you so!

A bunch of bottles filled with chemicals don\'t generate life any more than a box full of electronic parts creates a computer. The issue isn\'t parts, it\'s design.

If you are a fan of intelligent design, also known as creationism.

> DNA won\'t self-assemble from a jar full of colored water with stuff dissolved. The math has been done on that.

It\'s fairy clear that life was originally based on RNA, not DNA. Anybody who wasted their time on calculating the probability of self-replicating DNA assembling at random from random nucleic acids would have to have been regrettably ill-informed.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

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[Jan Panteltje]

On a sunny day (Thu, 21 Sep 2023 07:34:56 -0700) it happened John Larkin
<jl@997arbor.com> wrote in <0okogitsqq469s48m72g8h36unr2hh1p25@4ax.com>:

On Thu, 21 Sep 2023 04:33:40 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid
wrote:

New recipes for origin of life may point way to distant, inhabited planets
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2023/09/230919155043.htm
Summary:
Life on a faraway planet -- if it\'s out there -- might not look anything like life on Earth. But there are only so many
chemical ingredients in the universe\'s pantry, and only so many ways to mix them. Scientists have now exploited those limitations
to write a cookbook of hundreds of chemical recipes with the potential to give rise to life.

Self-assembly, told you so!

A bunch of bottles filled with chemicals don\'t generate life any more
than a box full of electronic parts creates a computer. The issue
isn\'t parts, it\'s design.

DNA won\'t self-assemble from a jar full of colored water with stuff
dissolved. The math has been done on that.

Don\'t know what inhibits your understanding, religion?
Atoms and molecules self-assemble, then molecules form all sort of stuff, things mix and interact, what goes goes.
Maybe it is that \'ego\' thing : \'We are at the center of it all\' that makes people deny they are just a [chemical if you will] process,
like earth at the center of everything and humming beans as the top of creation.

Your \'tronix work is exactly the same, experiment, use things out of spec, combine and copy, grab cheap modules that were put together elsewehere etc
sell to companies that do the same like making fussion...
LOL

-Zorry My navel Lenkguage iznod inglesh

 

[John Larkin]

On Fri, 22 Sep 2023 04:50:41 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
wrote:

On a sunny day (Thu, 21 Sep 2023 07:34:56 -0700) it happened John Larkin
jl@997arbor.com> wrote in <0okogitsqq469s48m72g8h36unr2hh1p25@4ax.com>:

On Thu, 21 Sep 2023 04:33:40 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid
wrote:

New recipes for origin of life may point way to distant, inhabited planets
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2023/09/230919155043.htm
Summary:
Life on a faraway planet -- if it\'s out there -- might not look anything like life on Earth. But there are only so many
chemical ingredients in the universe\'s pantry, and only so many ways to mix them. Scientists have now exploited those limitations
to write a cookbook of hundreds of chemical recipes with the potential to give rise to life.

Self-assembly, told you so!

A bunch of bottles filled with chemicals don\'t generate life any more
than a box full of electronic parts creates a computer. The issue
isn\'t parts, it\'s design.

DNA won\'t self-assemble from a jar full of colored water with stuff
dissolved. The math has been done on that.

Don\'t know what inhibits your understanding, religion?

Do you claim to understand how DNA self-assembled on Earth? Nobody
else does.

And don\'t be a jerk. Nobody likes jerks.

Atoms and molecules self-assemble, then molecules form all sort of stuff, things mix and interact, what goes goes.
Maybe it is that \'ego\' thing : \'We are at the center of it all\' that makes people deny they are just a [chemical if you will] process,
like earth at the center of everything and humming beans as the top of creation.

Your \'tronix work is exactly the same, experiment, use things out of spec, combine and copy, grab cheap modules that were put together elsewehere etc
sell to companies that do the same like making fussion...

My electronic products didn\'t self-assemble. I design by thinking, not
fiddling.

>LOL

Jerk.

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Friday, September 22, 2023 at 9:01:37 PM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:

On Fri, 22 Sep 2023 04:50:41 GMT, Jan Panteltje <al...@comet.invalid
wrote:

On a sunny day (Thu, 21 Sep 2023 07:34:56 -0700) it happened John Larkin
j...@997arbor.com> wrote in <0okogitsqq469s48m...@4ax.com>:

On Thu, 21 Sep 2023 04:33:40 GMT, Jan Panteltje <al...@comet.invalid
wrote:

New recipes for origin of life may point way to distant, inhabited planets
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2023/09/230919155043.htm
Summary:
Life on a faraway planet -- if it\'s out there -- might not look anything like life on Earth. But there are only so many
chemical ingredients in the universe\'s pantry, and only so many ways to mix them. Scientists have now exploited those limitations
to write a cookbook of hundreds of chemical recipes with the potential to give rise to life.

Self-assembly, told you so!

A bunch of bottles filled with chemicals don\'t generate life any more
than a box full of electronic parts creates a computer. The issue
isn\'t parts, it\'s design.

DNA won\'t self-assemble from a jar full of colored water with stuff
dissolved. The math has been done on that.

Don\'t know what inhibits your understanding, religion?

Do you claim to understand how DNA self-assembled on Earth?

It was more likely RNA strings that self-assembled. DNA seems to have been co-opted to provide more a stable genome template early in the process.

>Nobody else does.

The people who know enough to think usefully about that kind of question don\'t ask that particular one,

> And don\'t be a jerk. Nobody likes jerks.

You should know.

Atoms and molecules self-assemble, then molecules form all sort of stuff, things mix and interact, what goes goes.
Maybe it is that \'ego\' thing : \'We are at the center of it all\' that makes people deny they are just a [chemical if you will] process,
like earth at the center of everything and human beings as the top of creation.

Your \'tronix work is exactly the same, experiment, use things out of spec, combine and copy, grab cheap modules that were put together elsewehere etc sell to companies that do the same like making fusion...

My electronic products didn\'t self-assemble. I design by thinking, not fiddling.

Not a plausible claim. If you did, you\'d be able to talk about the thought processes involved, which you don\'t.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

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[Jan Panteltje]

On a sunny day (Fri, 22 Sep 2023 04:01:13 -0700) it happened John Larkin
<jl@997arbor.com> wrote in <7nsqgi9ambhu43qj6ert5qv11rbfu3n1q3@4ax.com>:

On Fri, 22 Sep 2023 04:50:41 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid
wrote:

On a sunny day (Thu, 21 Sep 2023 07:34:56 -0700) it happened John Larkin
jl@997arbor.com> wrote in <0okogitsqq469s48m72g8h36unr2hh1p25@4ax.com>:

On Thu, 21 Sep 2023 04:33:40 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid
wrote:

New recipes for origin of life may point way to distant, inhabited planets
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2023/09/230919155043.htm
Summary:
Life on a faraway planet -- if it\'s out there -- might not look anything like life on Earth. But there are only so many
chemical ingredients in the universe\'s pantry, and only so many ways to mix them. Scientists have now exploited those
limitations
to write a cookbook of hundreds of chemical recipes with the potential to give rise to life.

Self-assembly, told you so!

A bunch of bottles filled with chemicals don\'t generate life any more
than a box full of electronic parts creates a computer. The issue
isn\'t parts, it\'s design.

DNA won\'t self-assemble from a jar full of colored water with stuff
dissolved. The math has been done on that.

Don\'t know what inhibits your understanding, religion?

Do you claim to understand how DNA self-assembled on Earth? Nobody
else does.

And don\'t be a jerk. Nobody likes jerks.

Atoms and molecules self-assemble, then molecules form all sort of stuff, things mix and interact, what goes goes.
Maybe it is that \'ego\' thing : \'We are at the center of it all\' that makes people deny they are just a [chemical if you will]
process,
like earth at the center of everything and humming beans as the top of creation.

Your \'tronix work is exactly the same, experiment, use things out of spec, combine and copy, grab cheap modules that were put
together elsewehere etc
sell to companies that do the same like making fussion...

My electronic products didn\'t self-assemble. I design by thinking, not
fiddling.

LOL

Jerk.

Keep you insults, you brain self-assembled too
You have some religious or other wrong circuit that makes
you refuse to see reality, could be subconcious.

 

[John Larkin]

On Fri, 22 Sep 2023 11:47:02 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
wrote:

On a sunny day (Fri, 22 Sep 2023 04:01:13 -0700) it happened John Larkin
jl@997arbor.com> wrote in <7nsqgi9ambhu43qj6ert5qv11rbfu3n1q3@4ax.com>:

On Fri, 22 Sep 2023 04:50:41 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid
wrote:

On a sunny day (Thu, 21 Sep 2023 07:34:56 -0700) it happened John Larkin
jl@997arbor.com> wrote in <0okogitsqq469s48m72g8h36unr2hh1p25@4ax.com>:

On Thu, 21 Sep 2023 04:33:40 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid
wrote:

New recipes for origin of life may point way to distant, inhabited planets
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2023/09/230919155043.htm
Summary:
Life on a faraway planet -- if it\'s out there -- might not look anything like life on Earth. But there are only so many
chemical ingredients in the universe\'s pantry, and only so many ways to mix them. Scientists have now exploited those
limitations
to write a cookbook of hundreds of chemical recipes with the potential to give rise to life.

Self-assembly, told you so!

A bunch of bottles filled with chemicals don\'t generate life any more
than a box full of electronic parts creates a computer. The issue
isn\'t parts, it\'s design.

DNA won\'t self-assemble from a jar full of colored water with stuff
dissolved. The math has been done on that.

Don\'t know what inhibits your understanding, religion?

Do you claim to understand how DNA self-assembled on Earth? Nobody
else does.

And don\'t be a jerk. Nobody likes jerks.

Atoms and molecules self-assemble, then molecules form all sort of stuff, things mix and interact, what goes goes.
Maybe it is that \'ego\' thing : \'We are at the center of it all\' that makes people deny they are just a [chemical if you will]
process,
like earth at the center of everything and humming beans as the top of creation.

Your \'tronix work is exactly the same, experiment, use things out of spec, combine and copy, grab cheap modules that were put
together elsewehere etc
sell to companies that do the same like making fussion...

My electronic products didn\'t self-assemble. I design by thinking, not
fiddling.

LOL

Jerk.

Keep you insults, you brain self-assembled too
You have some religious or other wrong circuit that makes
you refuse to see reality, could be subconcious.

If you understand how life occurred on earth, where is your Nobel
prize?

 

[whit3rd]

On Thursday, September 21, 2023 at 7:35:16 AM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:

On Thu, 21 Sep 2023 04:33:40 GMT, Jan Panteltje <al...@comet.invalid
wrote:
New recipes for origin of life may point way to distant, inhabited planets
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2023/09/230919155043.htm
Summary:
Life on a faraway planet -- if it\'s out there -- might not look anything like life on Earth. But there are only so many chemical ingredients in the universe\'s pantry, and only so many ways to mix them. Scientists have now exploited those limitations to write a cookbook of hundreds of chemical recipes with the potential to give rise to life.

Self-assembly, told you so!
A bunch of bottles filled with chemicals don\'t generate life any more
than a box full of electronic parts creates a computer. The issue
isn\'t parts, it\'s design.

DNA won\'t self-assemble from a jar full of colored water with stuff
dissolved. The math has been done on that.

A planet is not a jar. Clay-like minerals are catalysts and substrates for reactions
too slow to be part of our human chemical technology, but that kind of milieu is
as full of life as Earth\'s oceans of \'colored water\' are, and \'the math\' on this subject does not
tell us that life didn\'t originate on Earth.

 

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[Jan Panteltje]

On a sunny day (Fri, 22 Sep 2023 07:27:50 -0700) it happened John Larkin
<jl@997arbor.com> wrote in <709rgil3vobsbuvbs5m6f7pb1i8vvot78d@4ax.com>:

On Fri, 22 Sep 2023 11:47:02 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid
wrote:

On a sunny day (Fri, 22 Sep 2023 04:01:13 -0700) it happened John Larkin
jl@997arbor.com> wrote in <7nsqgi9ambhu43qj6ert5qv11rbfu3n1q3@4ax.com>:

On Fri, 22 Sep 2023 04:50:41 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid
wrote:

On a sunny day (Thu, 21 Sep 2023 07:34:56 -0700) it happened John Larkin
jl@997arbor.com> wrote in <0okogitsqq469s48m72g8h36unr2hh1p25@4ax.com>:

On Thu, 21 Sep 2023 04:33:40 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid
wrote:

New recipes for origin of life may point way to distant, inhabited planets
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2023/09/230919155043.htm
Summary:
Life on a faraway planet -- if it\'s out there -- might not look anything like life on Earth. But there are only so
many
chemical ingredients in the universe\'s pantry, and only so many ways to mix them. Scientists have now exploited those
limitations
to write a cookbook of hundreds of chemical recipes with the potential to give rise to life.

Self-assembly, told you so!

A bunch of bottles filled with chemicals don\'t generate life any more
than a box full of electronic parts creates a computer. The issue
isn\'t parts, it\'s design.

DNA won\'t self-assemble from a jar full of colored water with stuff
dissolved. The math has been done on that.

Don\'t know what inhibits your understanding, religion?

Do you claim to understand how DNA self-assembled on Earth? Nobody
else does.

And don\'t be a jerk. Nobody likes jerks.

Atoms and molecules self-assemble, then molecules form all sort of stuff, things mix and interact, what goes goes.
Maybe it is that \'ego\' thing : \'We are at the center of it all\' that makes people deny they are just a [chemical if you
will]
process,
like earth at the center of everything and humming beans as the top of creation.

Your \'tronix work is exactly the same, experiment, use things out of spec, combine and copy, grab cheap modules that were
put
together elsewehere etc
sell to companies that do the same like making fussion...

My electronic products didn\'t self-assemble. I design by thinking, not
fiddling.

LOL

Jerk.

Keep you insults, you brain self-assembled too
You have some religious or other wrong circuit that makes
you refuse to see reality, could be subconcious.

If you understand how life occurred on earth, where is your Nobel
prize?

Well, life is just a chemical reaction by molecules formed by atoms formed by elementary particles they are trying to figure out in for example CERN.
As to brain, long ago I started programming neural nets, long before the AI hype of these days (even before year 2000)
there is plenty of open source so you can have a go at it too.
You , your believes, your knowledge, your behavior is formed by for example where you grew up, what your parents did (some is also passed on via DNA etc), what
you experienced in your life, what you came in contact with, what you were told and discovered, call it \'training\' of that neural net
that your brain is, basically.
That goes all the way from learning to walk to learning to talk and learning to put things together.
So like those basic particles, atoms, molecules
**whatever happens around \'them;\', is what makes them form - and become part of the bigger structures
THAT is how life forms.
And it is, when the chemicals are present and conditions allow, omnipresent.

So much in this world is controlled by religious indoctrination, make belief
Religions were and are used to control people, the Viking lander experiment on Mars was positive for life.
But the guys funding NASA had it denied, see
http://www.gillevin.com/

HE should have been given a Nobel for finding extraterrestrial life
When a pope can get the poor to pay for his trips and palace by promising salvation if you follow his directions
we REALLY need to get rid of silly religions.
Jesus was likely something else entirely.
Control systems for the masses, from the early medicine men doing rain dances to whatever religions you have today,
the human neural net is conditioned, for some... group forming, illusions... promises for heaven after death
All our elementary particles will go back and in this universe will maybe form new things when we \'die\'
As all matter is conscious (it feels and reacts to other matter) we are all star dust and all part of the universe
And how far that universe reaches, what it is... I do not know, I follow the same neural net laws as I am too, just a chemical reaction if you will, now ain\'t
that fun!!

 

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[Martin Brown]

On 22/09/2023 12:01, John Larkin wrote:

On Fri, 22 Sep 2023 04:50:41 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid
wrote:

On a sunny day (Thu, 21 Sep 2023 07:34:56 -0700) it happened John Larkin
jl@997arbor.com> wrote in <0okogitsqq469s48m72g8h36unr2hh1p25@4ax.com>:

On Thu, 21 Sep 2023 04:33:40 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid
wrote:

New recipes for origin of life may point way to distant, inhabited planets
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2023/09/230919155043.htm
Summary:
Life on a faraway planet -- if it\'s out there -- might not look anything like life on Earth. But there are only so many
chemical ingredients in the universe\'s pantry, and only so many ways to mix them. Scientists have now exploited those limitations
to write a cookbook of hundreds of chemical recipes with the potential to give rise to life.

Self-assembly, told you so!

A bunch of bottles filled with chemicals don\'t generate life any more
than a box full of electronic parts creates a computer. The issue
isn\'t parts, it\'s design.

DNA won\'t self-assemble from a jar full of colored water with stuff
dissolved. The math has been done on that.

Only by people with a very large Goddidit axe to grind. They ask the
wrong question deliberately and get an impossibly improbable answer.

Life is impossible without divine intervention. They start from that
answer and construct a fallacious argument to match their beliefs.

The evidence so far is that wherever there is liquid water and a
sufficiently long period of geological time there may well be life. Even
the liquid water requirement might possibly be relaxed to allow for life
that has evolved to live (very slowly) in solid ice or rocks.

Don\'t know what inhibits your understanding, religion?

Do you claim to understand how DNA self-assembled on Earth? Nobody
else does.

DNA was the final stage which replicates much more reliably.

RNA world came first and we still have viroids today that are nothing
more than infectious loops of bare RNA targetting mostly plants.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viroid

Some of them extremely damaging to commercial crops and plants and all
of them so small even when compared to viruses as to be unfilterable.

Many biologists who look at evolutionary biology consider them to be the
last remnants of the original RNA chemical soup world still hanging on
in a now mostly DNA and cellular one. Diener\'s hypothesis in 1989 being
one of the more compelling arguments for them being such a relic.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viroid#RNA_world_hypothesis

Quite likely before that there were self replicating molecules like
peptides or polysaccharides that did no more than catalyse formation of
copies of their own molecular structure from basic ingredients.

Scrapie in sheep and BSE in cattle are examples of spontaneously arising
self catalysing molecules that can flip an existing compound into
another non-functional and even seriously damaging conformal shape.

When you turn herbivores into cannibals as we did in the UK and then
further cut corners on the rendering process so that the infective agent
can survive you end up with a very messy situation indeed.

> And don\'t be a jerk. Nobody likes jerks.

Indeed and you should look in the mirror.

Atoms and molecules self-assemble, then molecules form all sort of stuff, things mix and interact, what goes goes.
Maybe it is that \'ego\' thing : \'We are at the center of it all\' that makes people deny they are just a [chemical if you will] process,
like earth at the center of everything and humming beans as the top of creation.

Your \'tronix work is exactly the same, experiment, use things out of spec, combine and copy, grab cheap modules that were put together elsewehere etc
sell to companies that do the same like making fussion...

My electronic products didn\'t self-assemble. I design by thinking, not
fiddling.

Actually you seem to spend a lot of time futzing with the numbers (your
words) in computer simulations which I don\'t consider designing at all.

Atoms come with a set of rules determined by quantum physics that pretty
much determines how they will fit together in different situations. We
already know that most of the building blocks of life are fairly
abundant in dense molecular clouds - the sort where new stars and solar
systems are born. Stars with planets now seem relatively common.

It remains to be seen what the pristine sample from asteroid Bennu
contains. I am most interested to see the dates they get for any zircons
they find in it. Some parts of it could easily predate out solar system.

Incidentally the observation of a known by-product of oceanic
photosynthesis on Earth having been seen in one exo-planets atmosphere
is suggestive that the first stages of life as in coloured slimes is
quite common. That is also implied by how quickly the Earth ceased to be
sterile and inert after it cooled down enough to have liquid water. The
early ones were red pigmented (absorbing only the highest energy blue
photons) and not very efficient (but still around).

Solar system is 4.5bn years old and the oldest identifiable fossil
bacteria are 3.7bn years old back when the Earth still had a reducing
atmosphere. That is pretty quick in geological timescales.

https://naturalhistory.si.edu/education/teaching-resources/life-science/early-life-earth-animal-origins

Not much interesting happened for over a billion years or so until
cyanobacteria really took off with a much more efficient photosynthesis
and their by product of free oxygen gas changed the Earth\'s atmosphere
to the one we have today (albeit with rather more oxygen in it).

--
Martin Brown