LTC opens design center in Phoenix AZ

legg · Jun 13, 2005

http://www.powerpulse.net/cgi-bin/displaystory_new.pl?id=13363

A bit of a mind bender.

"The Phoenix-Chandler-Tempe area ranks among the top communities for
analog design talent, and weŐre excited to draw on this extensive
resource."

A company opening up an office near the talent.........

Does this mean we've all got to move to the same area - to avoid
having to follow the projects all the time?

Why is an office needed, anyway? Can't the administrators bollox
things up just as effectively at a distance?

RL

Jim Thompson · Jun 13, 2005

On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 00:11:37 GMT, legg <legg@nospam.magma.ca> wrote:

http://www.powerpulse.net/cgi-bin/displaystory_new.pl?id=13363

A bit of a mind bender.

"The Phoenix-Chandler-Tempe area ranks among the top communities for
analog design talent, and were excited to draw on this extensive
resource."

A company opening up an office near the talent.........

Does this mean we've all got to move to the same area - to avoid
having to follow the projects all the time?

Why is an office needed, anyway? Can't the administrators bollox
things up just as effectively at a distance?

RL

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Joerg · Jun 14, 2005

Hello Jim,

Why is an office needed, anyway? Can't the administrators bollox
things up just as effectively at a distance?

They could but they usually don't want to.

I don't know where all that "analog design talent" is... besides me I
only know a few analog guys and they're young and green, or quite old
and very good... thus unemployable ;-)

My impression is that at least here in the US universities don't breed
analog talent anymore. Kids don't experiment anymore. The result is that
only few people can think and design down to transistor level.

Older folks don't necessarily have to be employed and sometimes don't
even want to be, long distance contract design works well. But many
companies absolutely have to have it all in house. So they often try and
try and then hit a tree or an Asian corporation has them for lunch.

Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com

Jim Thompson · Jun 14, 2005

On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 01:57:21 GMT, Joerg
<notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote:

Hello Jim,

Why is an office needed, anyway? Can't the administrators bollox
things up just as effectively at a distance?

They could but they usually don't want to.

I don't know where all that "analog design talent" is... besides me I
only know a few analog guys and they're young and green, or quite old
and very good... thus unemployable ;-)

My impression is that at least here in the US universities don't breed
analog talent anymore. Kids don't experiment anymore. The result is that
only few people can think and design down to transistor level.

Older folks don't necessarily have to be employed and sometimes don't
even want to be, long distance contract design works well. But many
companies absolutely have to have it all in house. So they often try and
try and then hit a tree or an Asian corporation has them for lunch.

Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com

480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax

Winfield Hill · Jun 14, 2005

Jim Thompson wrote...

On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 legg wrote:

http://www.powerpulse.net/cgi-bin/displaystory_new.pl?id=13363
A bit of a mind bender.

"The Phoenix-Chandler-Tempe area ranks among the top communities
for analog design talent, and were excited to draw on this
extensive resource."

I don't know where all that "analog design talent" is... besides
me I only know a few analog guys and they're young and green, or
quite old and very good... thus unemployable ;-)

Hey, Jim, you and I are both quite old and very good, but neither
of us is in any way "unemployable." Your friends need some good
advice, perhaps in skills marketing, or in modern-day networking?

--
Thanks,
- Win

Winfield Hill · Jun 14, 2005

Jim Thompson wrote...

I like that line, "...or an Asian corporation has them for lunch"
;-) I've been contracting to Asian corporations for about 11 years.

Some people are part of the solution, others are part of the problem.
I'm not yet quite sure where that activity lies on the scale...

--
Thanks,
- Win

John Perry · Jun 14, 2005

Joerg (and Jim Thompson) wrote:

Hello Jim,
...

I don't know where all that "analog design talent" is... besides me I
only know a few analog guys and they're young and green, or quite old
and very good... thus unemployable ;-)

Fits me quite well. I've just gone through my third research facility
RIF in 10 years. The first time it took a full year and a half (with a
couple of small contract jobs to help me eat), the second time, 6
months, and that was cut short when a job opened up for an old colleague
who remembered me.

Now, it's 3 months and counting...

I'm a 60-year old data acquisition engineer, by the way, most recently
at NASA Langley. I've been looking at the contract consulting houses,
but they typically want zillions of years of product development
experience...

My impression is that at least here in the US universities don't breed
analog talent anymore. Kids don't experiment anymore. The result is that
only few people can think and design down to transistor level.

My kids experimented, and all three were brilliant at math. But living
with an engineer encouraged the first to end up as a pure math
professor, the second as an opera singer, and the third as a security
management official.

Older folks don't necessarily have to be employed and sometimes don't
even want to be, long distance contract design works well. But many
companies absolutely have to have it all in house. So they often try and
try and then hit a tree or an Asian corporation has them for lunch.

A good part of my last few jobs has been fixing the mistakes of the
immigrant engineers who obviously were better qualified than I. And I
would like very much to be employed. I haven't been able to develop the
people skills needed to market my scientific skills in the public
marketplace.

John Perry

Joerg · Jun 14, 2005

Hello Jim,

I've been contracting to Asian corporations for about 11 years.

I did, too. Much of the cultural barriers that the media often talk
about aren't really there or don't matter that much, at least not among
engineers. A stark example was a trip to a client in Korea. At lunch
time we went downstairs where there was a fine Japanese restaurant. A
Japanese restaurant in Korea. Wow. You could hear all kinds of languages
spoken there, certainly not just Korean and English. The staff was
mostly Koreans. Then came the topper: A Korean looking guy asked in
English if they had forks. They didn't. But they sent someone over to
the restaurant across the street, Italian or something, to get one for him.

I found that the major challenge is the language since you can't always
use tricky pronounciations such as reverberation or something like that.
But after a while you get used to it and communication becomes pretty easy.

Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com

Joerg · Jun 14, 2005

Hello John,

A good part of my last few jobs has been fixing the mistakes of the
immigrant engineers who obviously were better qualified than I. And I
would like very much to be employed. I haven't been able to develop the
people skills needed to market my scientific skills in the public
marketplace.

Besides networking there isn't really much out there in terms of a
work/skills brokerage. Recruiters often know too little about what a
certain task really requires but are nevertheless entrusted to find
talent. Data bases for consultants either don't exist or are not
advertised, like the IEEE consultants data base. Hardly anyone knows
it's there.

I never had formal people skills education. Should have when I ran a
business but at that point there just wasn't any time for that. Where I
really learned about people skills was afterwards, in a program that
prepared for a ministry. It is amazing what can be learned totally
outside any management education.

Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com

Joerg · Jun 15, 2005

Hello Jim,

It's called riding your reputation. I'm pouring my pensions and SS
into savings ;-)

Just curious, how do you invest that?

Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com

Jim Thompson · Jun 15, 2005

On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 01:40:33 GMT, Joerg
<notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote:

Hello Jim,

It's called riding your reputation. I'm pouring my pensions and SS
into savings ;-)

Just curious, how do you invest that?

Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com

480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax

Jim Thompson · Jun 15, 2005

On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:36:05 -0700, Jim Thompson
<thegreatone@example.com> wrote:

On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 01:40:33 GMT, Joerg
notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote:

Hello Jim,

It's called riding your reputation. I'm pouring my pensions and SS
into savings ;-)

Just curious, how do you invest that?

Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com

Right now, just CD's, 'cause I have no time to mind them, but I should
put them into (probably) 3.

...Jim Thompson

480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax

Mac · Jun 15, 2005

On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:16:35 -0700, Winfield Hill wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote...

I like that line, "...or an Asian corporation has them for lunch"
;-) I've been contracting to Asian corporations for about 11 years.

Some people are part of the solution, others are part of the problem.
I'm not yet quite sure where that activity lies on the scale...

You can be part of the problem, part of the solution, or part of the
scenery. Most people are just part of the scenery.

;-)

--Mac

Mike · Jun 15, 2005

On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 16:28:38 GMT, Joerg wrote:

... Much of the cultural barriers that the media often talk
about aren't really there or don't matter that much, at least not among
engineers. A stark example was a trip to a client in Korea. At lunch
time we went downstairs where there was a fine Japanese restaurant. A
Japanese restaurant in Korea. Wow.

Whenever I go to Japan my coworkers take me to Korean Barbeque.

-- Mike --

Spehro Pefhany · Jun 15, 2005

On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 22:29:36 -0700, the renowned Mike
<mike@nospam.com> wrote:

On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 16:28:38 GMT, Joerg wrote:

... Much of the cultural barriers that the media often talk
about aren't really there or don't matter that much, at least not among
engineers. A stark example was a trip to a client in Korea. At lunch
time we went downstairs where there was a fine Japanese restaurant. A
Japanese restaurant in Korea. Wow.

Whenever I go to Japan my coworkers take me to Korean Barbeque.

-- Mike --

Most of the Japanese restaurants around here are actually run by
Koreans. There's often a section in the menu in Korean without
translation into English that features Korean dishes, and they
sometimes have Korean phonetic characters on the sign.

It's more lucrative to supply sushi, sashimi, chirashi, teriyaki,
donburi, etc. than bibimbap, gam ja tang, cold noodles, kim chee etc.
But bulgogi is pretty accessible.

There's also an (expensive) Korean-style Chinese restaurant (the kind
of Chinese food that the Chinese immigrants to Korea sell in Chinese
restaurants there). Korean immigrants to Canada get homesick for that
specific kind of Chinese food, ya know. It's a mixed up world.

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
--
"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward"
speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com
Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com

John Larkin · Jun 15, 2005

On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 22:29:36 -0700, Mike <mike@nospam.com> wrote:

On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 16:28:38 GMT, Joerg wrote:

... Much of the cultural barriers that the media often talk
about aren't really there or don't matter that much, at least not among
engineers. A stark example was a trip to a client in Korea. At lunch
time we went downstairs where there was a fine Japanese restaurant. A
Japanese restaurant in Korea. Wow.

Whenever I go to Japan my coworkers take me to Korean Barbeque.

I know a Japanese guy (PhD from Hamamatsu) who visits us occasionally,
and he always wants to go out for sushi!

John

Joerg · Jun 15, 2005

Hello Jim,

What the hell? "3" should be "mutuals"

Yes, but it requires quite a bit of research to figure out which ones. I
was kind of surprised when the newspapers mentioned the no-frills
investments of, IIRC, Alan Greenspan. Probably he didn't get burned in
the stock tumble a few years ago.

Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com

Keith Williams · Jun 15, 2005

In article <r25va19u6rfmuqbgq02tgj6u6scvd85kiq@4ax.com>,
thegreatone@example.com says...

On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:36:05 -0700, Jim Thompson
thegreatone@example.com> wrote:

On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 01:40:33 GMT, Joerg
notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote:

Hello Jim,

It's called riding your reputation. I'm pouring my pensions and SS
into savings ;-)

Just curious, how do you invest that?

Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com

Right now, just CD's, 'cause I have no time to mind them, but I should
put them into (probably) 3.

...Jim Thompson

What the hell? "3" should be "mutuals"

The thing that I don't like about mutuals is the potential tax
implications, even though no money was transferred.

--
Keith

Joerg · Jun 15, 2005

Hello Spehro,

Whenever I go to Japan my coworkers take me to Korean Barbeque.

We barbequed Korean ribs yesterday night, bought at a Korean store where
hardly anyone speaks English. When you turn into the candy aisle there
everything changes from Korean to Russian, cookies from St.Petersburg
and all that. And some of the high-volts stuff. Nastrovje!

It's more lucrative to supply sushi, sashimi, chirashi, teriyaki,
donburi, etc. than bibimbap, gam ja tang, cold noodles, kim chee etc.
But bulgogi is pretty accessible.

Many restaurants here are "tri-cultural". Mostly Chinese, Sushi and
Mongolian barbeque buffet all in one setting. The next one is just two
miles away and we are living way outside of town. I do miss a good
bulgogi though. But, we have a friend who is half Korean and can cook
very well.

There's also an (expensive) Korean-style Chinese restaurant (the kind
of Chinese food that the Chinese immigrants to Korea sell in Chinese
restaurants there). Korean immigrants to Canada get homesick for that
specific kind of Chinese food, ya know. It's a mixed up world.

I grew up in Germany but what do I miss the most from there? Suvlakia,
stifado, gyros ...

Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com

Mac · Jun 17, 2005

On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:38:03 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:

On Tue, 14 Jun 2005 19:36:05 -0700, Jim Thompson
thegreatone@example.com> wrote:

On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 01:40:33 GMT, Joerg
notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote:

Hello Jim,

It's called riding your reputation. I'm pouring my pensions and SS
into savings ;-)

Just curious, how do you invest that?

Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com

Right now, just CD's, 'cause I have no time to mind them, but I should
put them into (probably) 3.

...Jim Thompson

What the hell? "3" should be "mutuals"

...Jim Thompson

They say the older you get the more you should change your strategy from
"growth" or "value" to preservation of capital. If the CD's pay more than
inflation, I guess they pretty much preserve your capital. I'm not sure
how old you are.

;-)

At least you don't have it all in a no-interest checking account.

--Mac

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