Jihad needs scientists

[Eeyore]

T Wake wrote:

mmeron@cars3.uchicago.edu> wrote in message..

This may be so but the technique of carrying poison on yourself at all
times, so as to prevent the possibility of being taken alive is known
for a long time. BTW, the fact that their leaders didn't adapt it yet
is encouraging, in a way.

A surprisingly small number of Islamic extremists are actually willing to
die for their cause you know?

I beleive that Islam takes the same view about suicide as the Christian Church
actually.

Graham

 

[Eeyore]

T Wake wrote:

. The constant rain doesn't help
either..

You need some animals to eat it. Then you can eat the animals.

Graham

 

[Eeyore]

lucasea@sbcglobal.net wrote:

"T Wake" <usenet.es7at@gishpuppy.com> wrote in message

Personally I think without 11 Sept 2001, the situation in NI would still
be hostile. Since the Americans had to institute a "War on Terror" it
forced the hard liners to re-invent themselves. Not to mention the
majority of the IRA training and equipment came from Islamic terrorist
organisations..... (A significant minority came direct from the US....)

Interesting connection--and it now starts to be a little clearer why the UK
has been the one supporter that has stood by the US since 9/11.

That's simply down to Blair. It's made him shockingly unpopular here and if he
was to stay as PM he'd make Labour almost un-re-electable.

By the way,
I had been unaware of the connections between Middle Eastern terrorists and
NI, but I guess it doesn't surprise me.

It was Gaddafi who sent the IRA arms.

Graham

 

[AZ Nomad]

On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 09:54:39 -0700, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

On Tue, 3 Oct 2006 11:58:51 -0400, Keith <krw@att.bizzzz> wrote:

In article <18l4i2pda32a9pcks1snm7p1ne0ksphvjd@4ax.com>,
joebloe@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org says...
On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 07:33:14 -0700, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> Gave us:



That's why we should discontinue all aid except to developing nations
needing food and health assistance.

And burn the UN to the ground.


Have you ever heard that little piece by Robin Williams about us
simply stopping all we do for others? It is very funny as it were.

You mean this one?

http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/williams.asp

I like this part....

"The Statue of Liberty is no longer saying 'Give me your poor, your
tired, your huddled masses.' She's got a baseball bat and she's
yelling, 'You want a piece of me?'" — Robin Williams.

...Jim Thompson

Did you really read that article? It debunks the story that Williams had
anything to do with that little piece.

 

[Homer J Simpson]

<jmfbahciv@aol.com> wrote in message
news:eft9s4$8ss_002@s888.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com...

You are excoriating Bush for doing one of his primary jobs which
is national security. I suppose you long for the days of the
Clintons where the goal was to breakdown all national security.

Clinton was successful.

Bush is a failure.

 

[Homer J Simpson]

<lucasea@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:auwUg.19110$Ij.13106@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com...

1) As one example--the whole thing about getting warrants for wiretaps.
His rhetoric is that he needs the NSA to act quickly to quell terrorist
threats. However, that's hollow fear-mongering strawman rhetoric. The
FISA act requires warrants, so that there is some accountability for the
program, but it allows for (I think) up to 72 hours _post_facto_ to get
the warrant. The can do anything they want, as long as they keep a record
of it, and demonstrate to the FISA court at _some_point_ that they had a
good reason for thinking that the person they tapped had terrorist ties.
As a citizen with rights under the Constitution, I don't insist on
warrants *before* wiretapping, but I do insist on getting a warrant
*sometime*, so that the NSA is accountable to *somebody* for their
actions. Without this accountability, Bush has successfully removed one
of the carefully crafted checks-and-balances built into the Constitution,
as well as remove people's First Amendment rights.

The reason for this change is so that he can tap the phones of Michael
Moore, Cindy Sheehan and all others of that ilk and since there is no record
anywhere it can never be proved what he did.

 

[Homer J Simpson]

"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@emory.edu> wrote in message
news:eftptn$c8p$2@leto.cc.emory.edu...

Tell me how many times the Bill of Rights says "people" and how many times
it
says "citizens."

SCOTUS has said that even visitors have the rights of citizens when it come
to legal processes. After all, you expect their homeland laws to apply in
the US would you?

 

[Homer J Simpson]

"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:452288A9.4C911667@hotmail.com...

Keith Olbermann had a good commentary a week or two ago about Bush
calling a
criticism "unacceptable."

" Unacceptable to think " in fact ! Yes I've seen it. Very damning indeed.

Well it is true for Bush. He doesn't think (Cheney does that for him) so he
doesn't see why others should be able to.

 

[Homer J Simpson]

"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
news:cir4i2tom6isqqr383s16hn2h370nq1hg6@4ax.com...

The US believes that US law applies everywhere in the world, but US
constitutional rights don't apply to anyone who isn't the 'right sort of
person'.

Preposterous.

But still true.

Just saying that it's true doesn't make it so.

Prove your point if you expect to be believed.
================================================

Online Gambling Industry Reels After Arrest
Published: July 18, 2006

LONDON, July 18 - Europe's multibillion-dollar online gambling industry was
thrown into turmoil today after the United States government arrested the
chief executive of a British bookmaking company on Monday, leaving his
rivals scrambling to figure out whether they could be next.

================================================
U.S. reels in major drug cartel leader Arellano Felix on fishing trip
12:31 p.m. August 16, 2006

SAN DIEGO - The third of three brothers long suspected of running one of the
world's most powerful drug cartels is in American hands, U.S. officials
announced Wednesday.
Javier Arellano Felix was intercepted Monday by the U.S. Coast Guard aboard
a sport fishing vessel off the southern Baja California peninsula. The
announcement was made in Washington by Deputy U.S. Attorney General Paul J.
McNulty.
When authorities got word that Arellano was aboard the sport fisher Dock
Holiday, about 15 miles off the coast of La Paz in the Sea of Cortez, the
U.S. Coast Guard moved in to intercept her in international waters, McNulty
said.
================================================

So the US is arresting people who have not committed a crime in the US, or
people out at sea beyond their jurisdiction, and this is not piratical
behavior?

 

[Jim Thompson]

On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 17:53:01 GMT, AZ Nomad <aznomad@PmunOgeBOX.com>
wrote:

On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 09:54:39 -0700, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote:


On Tue, 3 Oct 2006 11:58:51 -0400, Keith <krw@att.bizzzz> wrote:

In article <18l4i2pda32a9pcks1snm7p1ne0ksphvjd@4ax.com>,
joebloe@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org says...
On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 07:33:14 -0700, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> Gave us:



That's why we should discontinue all aid except to developing nations
needing food and health assistance.

And burn the UN to the ground.


Have you ever heard that little piece by Robin Williams about us
simply stopping all we do for others? It is very funny as it were.

You mean this one?

http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/williams.asp

I like this part....

"The Statue of Liberty is no longer saying 'Give me your poor, your
tired, your huddled masses.' She's got a baseball bat and she's
yelling, 'You want a piece of me?'" — Robin Williams.

...Jim Thompson

Did you really read that article? It debunks the story that Williams had
anything to do with that little piece.

Excuse me?? Did YOU read the piece?

"...along the way the eleventh entry was dropped and a _genuine_ Robin
Williams quote appended in its place:

"The Statue of Liberty is no longer saying 'Give me your poor, your
tired, your huddled masses.' She's got a baseball bat and she's
yelling, 'You want a piece of me?'" — Robin Williams.

The 'Robin Williams' attribution for the final item was interpreted as
applying to the list as a whole, so now the entire piece circulates as
'the Robin Williams plan.'

...Jim Thompson
--
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I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.

 

[Homer J Simpson]

"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:45229A25.9F6F5567@hotmail.com...

"The Statue of Liberty is no longer saying 'Give me your poor, your
tired, your huddled masses.' She's got a baseball bat and she's
yelling, 'You want a piece of me?'" - Robin Williams.

I can see how that would appeal to your violent nature.

Or to Bush/Cheney et al.

 

[Homer J Simpson]

"JoeBloe" <joebloe@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote in message
news:rvl4i2pl69h59aavbv4ko9uld9m099c6ek@4ax.com...

Ignoring the blemishes, which is
what most of the Joe Sixpack 'Murc'n rednecks like yourself choose to do


Hahahah... I drink better beers than your retarded ass does.

So you only drink imported beer?

I also work on more sophisticated gear than you do.

So you only work on imported gear?

 

[Homer J Simpson]

"T Wake" <usenet.es7at@gishpuppy.com> wrote in message
news:h_WdnWq6y6WFBL_YRVnyvg@pipex.net...

It is interesting that until recent times, Islamic countries / empires had
the greatest tolerance for Non-believers.

Quoting the Koran as an example of what all Muslims adhere to is somewhat
disingenuous.

They were well ahead of the Catholic church for centuries in that regard.
Are they going forwards or backwards to becoming more intolerant?

 

[John Larkin]

On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 18:28:11 GMT, "Homer J Simpson"
<nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
news:cir4i2tom6isqqr383s16hn2h370nq1hg6@4ax.com...

The US believes that US law applies everywhere in the world, but US
constitutional rights don't apply to anyone who isn't the 'right sort of
person'.

Preposterous.

But still true.

Just saying that it's true doesn't make it so.

Prove your point if you expect to be believed.
================================================
Online Gambling Industry Reels After Arrest
Published: July 18, 2006

LONDON, July 18 - Europe's multibillion-dollar online gambling industry was
thrown into turmoil today after the United States government arrested the
chief executive of a British bookmaking company on Monday, leaving his
rivals scrambling to figure out whether they could be next.

================================================
U.S. reels in major drug cartel leader Arellano Felix on fishing trip
12:31 p.m. August 16, 2006

SAN DIEGO - The third of three brothers long suspected of running one of the
world's most powerful drug cartels is in American hands, U.S. officials
announced Wednesday.
Javier Arellano Felix was intercepted Monday by the U.S. Coast Guard aboard
a sport fishing vessel off the southern Baja California peninsula. The
announcement was made in Washington by Deputy U.S. Attorney General Paul J.
McNulty.
When authorities got word that Arellano was aboard the sport fisher Dock
Holiday, about 15 miles off the coast of La Paz in the Sea of Cortez, the
U.S. Coast Guard moved in to intercept her in international waters, McNulty
said.
================================================

So the US is arresting people who have not committed a crime in the US, or
people out at sea beyond their jurisdiction, and this is not piratical
behavior?

They did break US law. There's lots of legal precedence here. If a
Canadian kills a US citizen in Canada, that's a violation of US law.
The French see things the same way... murdering a Frenchman anywhere
is against French law.

Shipping drugs into the US harms US citizens, so is reasonably a
crime.

John

 

[John Larkin]

On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 18:28:11 GMT, "Homer J Simpson"
<nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@emory.edu> wrote in message
news:eftptn$c8p$2@leto.cc.emory.edu...

Tell me how many times the Bill of Rights says "people" and how many times
it
says "citizens."

SCOTUS has said that even visitors have the rights of citizens when it come
to legal processes. After all, you expect their homeland laws to apply in
the US would you?

Correct. But they also realize that the rights apply only when those
people are physically in the USA. Which is why some bad guys are held
elsewhere.

John

 

[Gordon]

On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 16:47:09 +0100, Eeyore
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:

Frithiof Andreas Jensen wrote:

mmeron@cars3.uchicago.edu> wrote in message

We did change the behavior of Germany and Japan, didn't we?

At the cost of maybe 20% of the German population

About 10% actually.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties

- which clearly noone is
willing to pay yet in the middle east; mainly because it would look really bad
on TeeVee. If one is not going to fight for real and destroy the opponents there
is really, really no point in sending soldiers.

snip

I.M.O: If WW2 was conducted the same way, we would be still be busy knocking
over small groups of Waffen SS while talking about our "deep respect" for
Neo-German culture and the historic achievements of Hitler (all the while buying
German products to prop up the failing plundocracy)!

There's no comparison since no Muslim country is actually at war with us, imagined
or otherwise.

Graham

Graham, are you saying that the events on the following list were

just fun and games, and not to be construed as war in any form? I
don't agree. It seems to me that 23 years of "turning the other
cheek" was enough. It was time to put an end to this kind of
irresponsible brutality.

Gordon



1975 Jan. 24, New York City: bomb set off in historic Fraunces
Tavern killed 4 and injured more than 50 people. Puerto Rican
nationalist group (FALN) claimed responsibility, and police tied
13 other bombings to the group.

1979 Nov. 4, Tehran, Iran: Iranian radical students seized the
U.S. embassy, taking 66 hostages. Fourteen were later released.
The remaining 52 were freed after 444 days, on the day of
President Reagan's inauguration.

1982-1991 Lebanon: Thirty US and other Western hostages kidnapped
in Lebanon by Hezbollah. Some were killed, some died in
captivity, and some were eventually released. Terry Anderson was
held for 2,454 days.

1983 April 18, Beirut, Lebanon: U.S. embassy destroyed in suicide
car-bomb attack; 63 dead, including 17 Americans. The Islamic
Jihad claimed responsibility.

1983 Oct. 23, Beirut, Lebanon: Shiite suicide bombers exploded
truck near U.S. military barracks at Beirut airport, killing 241
Marines. Minutes later a second bomb killed 58 French
paratroopers in their barracks in West Beirut.

1983Dec. 12, Kuwait City, Kuwait Shiite truck bombers attacked
the U.S. embassy and other targets, killing 5 and injuring 80.

1984 Sept. 20, east Beirut, Lebanon: truck bomb exploded outside
the U.S. embassy annex, killing 24, including 2 U.S. military.
Dec. 3, Beirut, Lebanon: Kuwait Airways Flight 221, from Kuwait
to Pakistan, hijacked and diverted to Tehran. Two Americans
killed.

1985 April 12, Madrid, Spain: Bombing at restaurant frequented by
U.S. soldiers, killed 18 Spaniards and injured 82.
June 14, Beirut, Lebanon: TWA flight 847 en route from Athens to
Rome hijacked to Beirut by Hezbollah terrorists and held for 17
days. A U.S. Navy diver executed.

1985 Oct. 7, Mediterranean Sea: gunmen attack Italian cruise
ship, Achille Lauro. One U.S. tourist killed. Hijacking linked to
Libya.

1985Dec. 18, Rome, Italy, and Vienna, Austria: airports in Rome
and Vienna were bombed, killing 20 people, 5 of whom were
Americans. Bombing linked to Libya.

1986 April 2, Athens, Greece:A bomb exploded aboard TWA flight
840 en route from Rome to Athens, killing 4 Americans and
injuring 9.

1986 April 5, West Berlin, Germany: Libyans bombed a disco
frequented by U.S. servicemen, killing 2 and injuring hundreds.

1988 Dec. 21, Lockerbie, Scotland: N.Y.-bound Pan-Am Boeing 747
exploded in flight from a terrorist bomb and crashed into
Scottish village, killing all 259 aboard and 11 on the ground.
Passengers included 35 Syracuse University students and many U.S.
military personnel. Libya formally admitted responsibility 15
years later (Aug. 2003) and offered $2.7 billion compensation to
victims' families.

1993 Feb. 26, New York City: bomb exploded in basement garage of
World Trade Center, killing 6 and injuring at least 1,040 others.
In 1995, militant Islamist Sheik Omar Abdel Rahman and 9 others
were convicted of conspiracy charges, and in 1998, Ramzi Yousef,
believed to have been the mastermind, was convicted of the
bombing. Al-Qaeda involvement is suspected.

1985 Nov. 13, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia: car bomb exploded at U.S.
military headquarters, killing five U.S. military servicemen.

1996 June 25, Dhahran, Saudi Arabia: truck bomb exploded outside
Khobar Towers military complex, killing 19 American servicemen
and injuring hundreds of others. Thirteen Saudis and a Lebanese,
all alleged members of Islamic militant group Hezbollah, were
indicted on charges relating to the attack in June 2001.

1998 Aug. 7, Nairobi, Kenya, and Dar es Salaam, Tanzania: truck
bombs exploded almost simultaneously near 2 U.S. embassies,
killing 224 (213 in Kenya and 11 in Tanzania) and injuring about
4,500. Four men connected with al-Qaeda two of whom had received
training at al-Qaeda camps inside Afghanistan, were convicted of
the killings in May 2001 and later sentenced to life in prison. A
federal grand jury had indicted 22 men in connection with the
attacks, including Saudi dissident Osama bin Laden, who remained
at large.

2000 Oct. 12, Aden, Yemen: U.S. Navy destroyer USS Cole heavily
damaged when a small boat loaded with explosives blew up
alongside it. Seventeen sailors killed. Linked to Osama bin
Laden, or members of al-Qaeda terrorist network.

2001 Sept. 11, New York City, Arlington, Va., and Shanksville,
Pa.: hijackers crashed two commercial jets into twin towers of
World Trade Center; two more hijacked jets were crashed into the
Pentagon and a field in rural Pa. Total dead and missing numbered
2,9921: 2,749 in New York City, 184 at the Pentagon, 40 in Pa.,
and 19 hijackers. Islamic al-Qaeda terrorist group blamed. (See
September 11, 2001: Timeline of Terrorism.)

2002 June 14, Karachi, Pakistan: bomb exploded outside American
consulate in Karachi, Pakistan, killing 12. Linked to al-Qaeda.

2003 May 12, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia: suicide bombers killed 34,
including eight Americans, at housing compounds for Westerners.
Al-Qaeda suspected.

2004 May 29-31, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia: terrorists attack the
offices of a Saudi oil company in Khobar, Saudi Arabia, take
foreign oil workers hostage in a nearby residential compound,
leaving 22 people dead including one American.

2004 June 11-19, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia: terrorists kidnap and
execute Paul Johnson Jr., an American, in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia.
Dec. 6, Jiddah, Saudi Arabia: terrorists storm the U.S. consulate
killing 5 before being subdued by Saudi security who killed five
of the militants.

 

[Eeyore]

John Larkin wrote:

On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 18:28:11 GMT, "Homer J Simpson" wrote:
"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@emory.edu> wrote

Tell me how many times the Bill of Rights says "people" and how many times
it says "citizens."

SCOTUS has said that even visitors have the rights of citizens when it come
to legal processes. After all, you expect their homeland laws to apply in
the US would you?

Correct. But they also realize that the rights apply only when those
people are physically in the USA. Which is why some bad guys are held
elsewhere.

So you can 'get round the rules'. That's so reassuring to know. So the rules have
effectively been flushed down the toilet for anyone yoy don't much care for.

Graham

 

[Eeyore]

Gordon wrote:

On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 16:47:09 +0100, Eeyore wrote:
Frithiof Andreas Jensen wrote:
mmeron@cars3.uchicago.edu> wrote in message

We did change the behavior of Germany and Japan, didn't we?

At the cost of maybe 20% of the German population

About 10% actually.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties

- which clearly noone is
willing to pay yet in the middle east; mainly because it would look really bad
on TeeVee. If one is not going to fight for real and destroy the opponents there
is really, really no point in sending soldiers.

snip

I.M.O: If WW2 was conducted the same way, we would be still be busy knocking
over small groups of Waffen SS while talking about our "deep respect" for
Neo-German culture and the historic achievements of Hitler (all the while buying
German products to prop up the failing plundocracy)!

There's no comparison since no Muslim country is actually at war with us, imagined
or otherwise.

Graham

Graham, are you saying that the events on the following list were
just fun and games, and not to be construed as war in any form? I
don't agree. It seems to me that 23 years of "turning the other
cheek" was enough. It was time to put an end to this kind of
irresponsible brutality.

Gordon

1975 Jan. 24, New York City: bomb set off in historic Fraunces
Tavern killed 4 and injured more than 50 people. Puerto Rican
nationalist group (FALN) claimed responsibility, and police tied
13 other bombings to the group.

So go to war with Puerto Rics - oops that's 'kinda' one of yours isn't it ? LOL !

1979 Nov. 4, Tehran, Iran: Iranian radical students seized the
U.S. embassy, taking 66 hostages. Fourteen were later released.
The remaining 52 were freed after 444 days, on the day of
President Reagan's inauguration.

So go to war with Iran.

1982-1991 Lebanon: Thirty US and other Western hostages kidnapped
in Lebanon by Hezbollah. Some were killed, some died in
captivity, and some were eventually released. Terry Anderson was
held for 2,454 days.

1983 April 18, Beirut, Lebanon: U.S. embassy destroyed in suicide
car-bomb attack; 63 dead, including 17 Americans. The Islamic
Jihad claimed responsibility.

1983 Oct. 23, Beirut, Lebanon: Shiite suicide bombers exploded
truck near U.S. military barracks at Beirut airport, killing 241
Marines. Minutes later a second bomb killed 58 French
paratroopers in their barracks in West Beirut.

So go to war with Lebanon.

1983Dec. 12, Kuwait City, Kuwait Shiite truck bombers attacked
the U.S. embassy and other targets, killing 5 and injuring 80.

So go to war with Kuwait.

1984 Sept. 20, east Beirut, Lebanon: truck bomb exploded outside
the U.S. embassy annex, killing 24, including 2 U.S. military.
Dec. 3, Beirut, Lebanon: Kuwait Airways Flight 221, from Kuwait
to Pakistan, hijacked and diverted to Tehran. Two Americans
killed.

See above.

1985 April 12, Madrid, Spain: Bombing at restaurant frequented by
U.S. soldiers, killed 18 Spaniards and injured 82.
June 14, Beirut, Lebanon: TWA flight 847 en route from Athens to
Rome hijacked to Beirut by Hezbollah terrorists and held for 17
days. A U.S. Navy diver executed.

So go to war with Spain.

1985 Oct. 7, Mediterranean Sea: gunmen attack Italian cruise
ship, Achille Lauro. One U.S. tourist killed. Hijacking linked to
Libya.

So go to war with Libya. You did 'sort of'.

1985Dec. 18, Rome, Italy, and Vienna, Austria: airports in Rome
and Vienna were bombed, killing 20 people, 5 of whom were
Americans. Bombing linked to Libya.

See above.

1986 April 2, Athens, Greece:A bomb exploded aboard TWA flight
840 en route from Rome to Athens, killing 4 Americans and
injuring 9.

So go to war with Greece ( a NATO ally ).

1986 April 5, West Berlin, Germany: Libyans bombed a disco
frequented by U.S. servicemen, killing 2 and injuring hundreds.

1988 Dec. 21, Lockerbie, Scotland: N.Y.-bound Pan-Am Boeing 747
exploded in flight from a terrorist bomb and crashed into
Scottish village, killing all 259 aboard and 11 on the ground.
Passengers included 35 Syracuse University students and many U.S.
military personnel. Libya formally admitted responsibility 15
years later (Aug. 2003) and offered $2.7 billion compensation to
victims' families.

See above.

< snip pointless tirade >

Was there a point to this rant ?

Ever wondered why it happens to the USA most btw ?

Graham

 

[Homer J Simpson]

"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4522A0F5.F7D9C53F@hotmail.com...

It was Gaddafi who sent the IRA arms.

The enemy of my enemy again.

 

[Homer J Simpson]

"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
news:jfr4i21cr7v19okiju8thv4fnn2hici7af@4ax.com...

And that has _what_ to do with racism???

God killed his child so he killed to get back at God. Racism, religionism,
it's all of a piece.