Is zero even or odd?

On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 19:34:47 +0000 (UTC), George Cox
<george_coxanti@spambtinternet.com.invalid> wrote:

May I disagree?
Not until you master your subject.
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On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 20:37:28 +0100, David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org> wrote:

0/0.
Another idiot. Probably all go to same elementary school.
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On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 18:24:27 +0000, John Woodgate
<jmw@jmwa.demon.contraspam.yuk> wrote:

I think this thread has shown that there are two sorts of people, those
that associate taboos with 0 and those that don't.
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That is because you are a dumbass.
 
On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 19:39:25 +0000, John Woodgate
<jmw@jmwa.demon.contraspam.yuk> wrote:

As far as I know,
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Less than a Plank unit.
 
On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 21:09:25 GMT, mmeron@cars3.uchicago.edu wrote:

In order to find out what o divided by itself, or indeed anything
divided by anything, yields, you do need the definition of division.
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Which states that division by 0 is not defined and therefore
meaningless.
 
On 24 Dec 2004 21:59:56 +0100, Torkel Franzen wrote:
Dave Seaman <dseaman@no.such.host> writes:

...but it's fairly
easy to see that ZF + GCH -> AC, since ZF + GCH implies that every
cardinal is an aleph,

"Fairly easy" seems to me an exaggeration. Sierpinski's proof is far
from trivial.
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Yes, in fact, I cancelled that article after thinking about it a bit more.



--
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Judge Yohn's mistakes revealed in Mumia Abu-Jamal ruling.
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vonroach wrote:
On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 09:51:12 -0800, "Alfred Z. Newmane"
a.newmane.remove@eastcoastcz.com> wrote:

2^0 = 1
1^0 = 1
0^0 = ERROR, DOMAIN (hence the limit)
(-1)^0 = 1
(-2)^0 = 1

(-1^1/2)^0 =?
or ( i )^0 =?
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Both would result in 1 (I've never seen a limit preventing this, at
least when complex numbers are allowed (that is, (real, imag), which the
result above is (1, 0).)

(Also checked on my TI86.)
---------------------
((-1)^(1/2))^0
(1,0)
i
(0,1)
i^0
(1,0)


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mmeron@cars3.uchicago.edu wrote:

[...]

Sigh. Forget machines. Is the definition of division clear to you?
the result of the division a/b is such a number c that c*b = a.
That's *all* there is to it. So, the result of 0/0 is a number c such
that c*0 = 0. Can you tell me what c is?
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/Thank/ /you/, that is the best explanation/proof I've seen in this
entire thread about.

c = undefined, since it cannot be one value, since /anything/ * 0 = 0.
Your proof demonstrates this perfectly.
 
On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 00:32:39 GMT, "Nicholas O. Lindan" <see@sig.com>
wrote:

"George Cox" <george_coxanti@spambtinternet.com.invalid> wrote

No 0/0 is undefined, it has _no_ value.

No it has value: 0/0 == 0/0 = 0/0 * 1 etc.

It just doesn't have any other value. (Yet)
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May be call this the Lindan Crap hypothesis?
 
On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 01:04:25 GMT, "Nicholas O. Lindan" <see@sig.com>
wrote:

See, now there you go again, thinking there is only one zero
and there's nothing that it can do.
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If you spent 1/2 the time learning math as you do framing crap, you
might learn a little about 0.
 
On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 23:31:10 -0800, "Alfred Z. Newmane"
<a.newmane.remove@eastcoastcz.com> wrote:

Just a minor nit pick, not meaning to sound anal,
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That's pretty tough for you apple boy.
 
On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 23:57:22 -0800, "Alfred Z. Newmane"
<a.newmane.remove@eastcoastcz.com> wrote:

That's *all* there is to it. So, the result of 0/0 is a number c such
that c*0 = 0. Can you tell me what c is?

/Thank/ /you/, that is the best explanation/proof I've seen in this
entire thread about.
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Chuckle...slipped your mind that 0/0 is NOT a number, I suppose.
 
On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 19:26:18 GMT, "Nicholas O. Lindan" <see@sig.com>
wrote:

I am proposing a _different_ system where 1/0 is
allowed, as is 0/0...
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Can't learn the real thing? What a moron.
 
On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 02:27:58 +0000, vonroach wrote:

On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 19:26:18 GMT, "Nicholas O. Lindan" <see@sig.com
wrote:

I am proposing a _different_ system where 1/0 is
allowed, as is 0/0...

Can't learn the real thing? What a moron.
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Have you *ever* added anything to this (or any) discussion?

--
Keith
 
Nicholas O. Lindan wrote:
As the fool who started this (not!) I would like to clarify:

"Alfred Z. Newmane" <a.newmane.remove@eastcoastcz.com
mmeron@cars3.uchicago.edu wrote:

Sigh.
Can't put it better.

Forget machines.
Even the TI-86?
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The quoted line you had above weren't mine, but the person /I/ replied
to.
Please be careful :)

Yes I have a TI86, it can be quite useful at times :)
 
vonroach wrote:
On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 23:57:22 -0800, "Alfred Z. Newmane"
a.newmane.remove@eastcoastcz.com> wrote:

That's *all* there is to it. So, the result of 0/0 is a number c
such that c*0 = 0. Can you tell me what c is?

/Thank/ /you/, that is the best explanation/proof I've seen in this
entire thread about.

Chuckle...slipped your mind that 0/0 is NOT a number, I suppose.
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What in the sam-hell are you on? Thats what I've /BEEN/ saying, ya
trollimous maximus;

I've been saying it's undefined.

"Will someone please put this retard out of his misery." -Eric Cartman
 
"Mark J. Tilford" <tilford@ugcs.caltech.edu> writes:

On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 20:31:32 +0100, David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org> wrote:
John Woodgate <jmw@jmwa.demon.contraspam.yuk> writes:

David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org> wrote:

It gives us, for example,
1 = 0/0 = (0+0)/0 = (0/0) + (0/0) = 2

0/0 can't be *defined* as 1 because, as has been repeatedly
demonstrated, that definition results in contradictions, such as the
one illustrated above.

The only definition that does not result in contradictions is that
0/0 is 'any number'. 1 is just one solution.

It does not result in contradictions? Since when?

any number = 0/0 = (2*0)/0 = 2*(0/0) = 2*any number = any even number


Any number, not any integer.
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any number = 0/0 = (0/0)^(-1) = any number except 0 (since 0 is not
the inverse of any number).

So 0 is not a number?

--
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum
 
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