Is Inductor core saturation reversible?

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If a power inductor as part of line filter reaches saturation current and goes into saturation will it come back to normal after the load current reduces to nominal level? In otherwards, is core saturation reversible process?

-sridhar
 
sridhar09.cherukuri@gmail.com schrieb:

If a power inductor as part of line filter reaches saturation current and goes into saturation will it come back to normal after the load current reduces to nominal level? In otherwards, is core saturation reversible process?

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If a power inductor as part of line filter reaches saturation
current and goes into saturation will it come back to normal
after the load current reduces to nominal level?

** AC line filters are normally made such that saturation of the ferrite is
not possible.

Cos there are two windings carrying current in opposite directions.


In otherwards, is core saturation reversible process?
** Yep.

The core may have some temporary magnetisation, but that soon vanishes with
use.


.... Phil
 
On 2012-08-02, sridhar09.cherukuri@gmail.com <sridhar09.cherukuri@gmail.com> wrote:
If a power inductor as part of line filter reaches saturation
current and goes into saturation will it come back to normal after the
load current reduces to nominal level? In otherwards, is core
saturation reversible process?
yes, unless the overcurrent was exterme enough to damage it permanently
(eg: burn the insulation off the windings)



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<sridhar09.cherukuri@gmail.com>
It is for DC use as part of LC filter to minimize the surges
particularly from inductive load switching. Does inductive
surge for such a brief period of few milli seconds cause the
core saturation?

** Core saturation is virtually instant.

It depends on the current level flowing in the winding, independent of the
frequency.



..... Phil
 
On 2012-08-02, sridhar09.cherukuri@gmail.com <sridhar09.cherukuri@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thursday, August 2, 2012 4:44:50 PM UTC+5:30, sridhar09...@gmail.com wrote:
If a power inductor as part of line filter reaches saturation current and goes into saturation will it come back to normal after the load current reduces to nominal level? In otherwards, is core saturation reversible process?



-sridhar

It is for DC use as part of LC filter to minimize the surges particularly from inductive load switching. Does inductive surge for such a brief period of few milli seconds cause the core saturation?

it could... you have the figures, run the arithmetic.

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On Thursday, August 2, 2012 4:44:50 PM UTC+5:30, sridhar09...@gmail.com wrote:
If a power inductor as part of line filter reaches saturation current and goes into saturation will it come back to normal after the load current reduces to nominal level? In otherwards, is core saturation reversible process?



-sridhar
It is for DC use as part of LC filter to minimize the surges particularly from inductive load switching. Does inductive surge for such a brief period of few milli seconds cause the core saturation?
 
Note: some ferrites are not reversible. Ni-Zn ferrites usually warn to
avoid saturation, else permeability will drop somewhat.

I swear I've had one toroid (strip steel core) which stayed magnetized after
being saturated for a while (too much DC bias). Running it at AC (no DC
bias, AC well below saturation), it still ran hot and noisy (banging its
head against saturation).

Magnets are weird.

Tim

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<sridhar09.cherukuri@gmail.com> wrote in message
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If a power inductor as part of line filter reaches saturation current and
goes into saturation will it come back to normal after the load current
reduces to nominal level? In otherwards, is core saturation reversible
process?

-sridhar
 
On 8/2/2012 4:17 PM, Tim Williams wrote:
Note: some ferrites are not reversible. Ni-Zn ferrites usually warn to
avoid saturation, else permeability will drop somewhat.

I swear I've had one toroid (strip steel core) which stayed magnetized
after being saturated for a while (too much DC bias). Running it at AC
(no DC bias, AC well below saturation), it still ran hot and noisy
(banging its head against saturation).

Magnets are weird.

Tim

Back in the day, seems like I remember a vendor trying to sell me
some magnetically biased "DC inductors". Claimed twice the amp-turns
for the same size core.
 
On Thu, 02 Aug 2012 16:54:05 -0700, the renowned mike
<spamme9@gmail.com> wrote:

On 8/2/2012 4:17 PM, Tim Williams wrote:
Note: some ferrites are not reversible. Ni-Zn ferrites usually warn to
avoid saturation, else permeability will drop somewhat.

I swear I've had one toroid (strip steel core) which stayed magnetized
after being saturated for a while (too much DC bias). Running it at AC
(no DC bias, AC well below saturation), it still ran hot and noisy
(banging its head against saturation).

Magnets are weird.

Tim

Back in the day, seems like I remember a vendor trying to sell me
some magnetically biased "DC inductors". Claimed twice the amp-turns
for the same size core.
It's not rocket science:

http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/20110023991_2011025105.pdf



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sridhar09.cherukuri@gmail.com wrote:
If a power inductor as part of line filter reaches saturation current and goes into saturation will it come back to normal after the load current reduces to nominal level? In otherwards, is core saturation reversible process?

-sridhar
In a word, YES.
 

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