Indoor tabletop motion detector???

[Rich The Newsgropup Wacko]

On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 18:57:38 +0100, John Woodgate wrote:

I read in sci.electronics.design that Rich The Newsgropup Wacko
wacko@example.com> wrote (in
pan.2005.04.07.16.10.01.733498@example.com&gt about 'Indoor tabletop
motion detector???', on Thu, 7 Apr 2005:
Oh, dear. I've been wrapping at 79.

So it's all my fault.

Don't cry. We are talking about line length, not your age.

LOL!
--
Thanks!
Rich
---
#!/usr/bin/bash
echo `fortune`
"Heisenberg may have slept here"

 

[R.Lewis]

"Rich The Newsgropup Wacko" <wacko@example.com> wrote in message
newsan.2005.04.07.18.18.16.485895@example.com...

On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 18:57:38 +0100, John Woodgate wrote:

I read in sci.electronics.design that Rich The Newsgropup Wacko
wacko@example.com> wrote (in
pan.2005.04.07.16.10.01.733498@example.com&gt about 'Indoor tabletop
motion detector???', on Thu, 7 Apr 2005:
Oh, dear. I've been wrapping at 79.

So it's all my fault.

Don't cry. We are talking about line length, not your age.

LOL!
--
Thanks!
Rich
---
#!/usr/bin/bash
echo `fortune`
"Heisenberg may have slept here"

Are you sure he slept there?

I am uncertain of that without good evidence.
He may have tried passing through but was probably excluded.
Pauli was a bit like that - strong on his principles.

 

[Rich The Newsgropup Wacko]

On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 19:37:45 +0100, R.Lewis wrote:

"Rich The Newsgropup Wacko" <wacko@example.com> wrote in message
newsan.2005.04.07.18.18.16.485895@example.com...
On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 18:57:38 +0100, John Woodgate wrote:

I read in sci.electronics.design that Rich The Newsgropup Wacko
wacko@example.com> wrote (in
pan.2005.04.07.16.10.01.733498@example.com&gt about 'Indoor tabletop
motion detector???', on Thu, 7 Apr 2005:
Oh, dear. I've been wrapping at 79.

So it's all my fault.

Don't cry. We are talking about line length, not your age.

LOL!
--
Thanks!
Rich
---
#!/usr/bin/bash
echo `fortune`
"Heisenberg may have slept here"

Are you sure he slept there?

Of course not. It's just my .sig, which executes 'fortune'.

I am uncertain of that without good evidence. He may have tried passing
through but was probably excluded. Pauli was a bit like that - strong on
his principles.

And, yes, I think I get the joke, but it's a little bit, um... ephemeral?
obscure? Oh, well. I'm sure one of the old guys has a word here. ;-)
--
Cheers!
Rich
---
#!/usr/bin/bash
echo `fortune all`
Experience is what causes a person to make new mistakes instead of old ones.

 

[Larry Brasfield]

"Rich The Newsgropup Wacko" <wacko@example.com> wrote in
message newsan.2005.04.07.18.47.08.718136@example.com...

On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 19:37:45 +0100, R.Lewis wrote:
"Rich The Newsgropup Wacko" <wacko@example.com> wrote in message
newsan.2005.04.07.18.18.16.485895@example.com...
On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 18:57:38 +0100, John Woodgate wrote:

I read in sci.electronics.design that Rich The Newsgropup Wacko
wacko@example.com> wrote (in
pan.2005.04.07.16.10.01.733498@example.com&gt about 'Indoor tabletop
motion detector???', on Thu, 7 Apr 2005:
....
Rich
---
#!/usr/bin/bash
echo `fortune`
"Heisenberg may have slept here"

Are you sure he slept there?

Of course not. It's just my .sig, which executes 'fortune'.

If you were sure he was sleeping (and presumably
at rest), then you could not be sure of where. I
think some physicist was sure of that relationship.

I am uncertain of that without good evidence. He may have tried passing
through but was probably excluded. Pauli was a bit like that - strong on
his principles.

And, yes, I think I get the joke, but it's a little bit, um... ephemeral?
obscure? Oh, well. I'm sure one of the old guys has a word here. ;-)

It's elliptic, at least.

#!/usr/bin/bash
echo `fortune all`
Experience is what causes a person to make new mistakes instead of old ones.

We may be caught in a loop here.

--
--Larry Brasfield
email: donotspam_larry_brasfield@hotmail.com
Above views may belong only to me.

 

[Rich The Newsgropup Wacko]

On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 12:03:25 -0700, Larry Brasfield wrote:

"Rich The Newsgropup Wacko" <wacko@example.com> wrote in
message newsan.2005.04.07.18.47.08.718136@example.com...
On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 19:37:45 +0100, R.Lewis wrote:
"Rich The Newsgropup Wacko" <wacko@example.com> wrote in message
newsan.2005.04.07.18.18.16.485895@example.com...
On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 18:57:38 +0100, John Woodgate wrote:

I read in sci.electronics.design that Rich The Newsgropup Wacko
wacko@example.com> wrote (in
pan.2005.04.07.16.10.01.733498@example.com&gt about 'Indoor tabletop
motion detector???', on Thu, 7 Apr 2005:
...
Rich
---
#!/usr/bin/bash
echo `fortune`
"Heisenberg may have slept here"

Are you sure he slept there?

Of course not. It's just my .sig, which executes 'fortune'.

If you were sure he was sleeping (and presumably at rest), then you could
not be sure of where. I think some physicist was sure of that
relationship.

I am uncertain of that without good evidence. He may have tried passing
through but was probably excluded. Pauli was a bit like that - strong
on his principles.

And, yes, I think I get the joke, but it's a little bit, um...
ephemeral? obscure? Oh, well. I'm sure one of the old guys has a word
here. ;-)

It's elliptic, at least.

#!/usr/bin/bash
echo `fortune all`
Experience is what causes a person to make new mistakes instead of old
ones.

We may be caught in a loop here.

Are you a bot?
--
Cheers!
Rich
------
The, uh, snowy mountains are like really cold, eh? And the, um, plains
stretch out like my moms girdle, eh? There's lotsa beers and doughnuts
for everyone, eh? So the last one to be peaceful and everything is a big
idiot, Eh? So shut yer face up and dry yer mucklucks by the fire, eh? And
dream about girls with their high beams on, eh? They may be cold, but
that's okay! Beer's better that way! Eh? -- A, like, Tribute to the Great
White North, eh? Beauty!

 

[Larry Brasfield]

"Rich The Newsgropup Wacko" <wacko@example.com> wrote in
message newsan.2005.04.08.01.53.37.520627@example.com...

On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 12:03:25 -0700, Larry Brasfield wrote:
"Rich The Newsgropup Wacko" <wacko@example.com> wrote in
message newsan.2005.04.07.18.47.08.718136@example.com...
[Invitation to respond and response cut for space.]
#!/usr/bin/bash
echo `fortune all`
Experience is what causes a person to make new mistakes instead of old
ones.

We may be caught in a loop here.

Are you a bot?

How would I know? Or you? Does it matter?

--
--Larry Brasfield
email: donotspam_larry_brasfield@hotmail.com
Above views may belong only to me.

 

[keith]

On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 16:13:36 +0000, Rich The Newsgropup Wacko wrote:

On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 05:52:22 +0000, Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Voice of freedom wrote:

Yeah, there was most anything else you can think of, but she was asking
about a specific thing. It always amazes me, in a group like this, how
someone can ask a simple direct question, and dozens of people will
chime in telling them about everything else under the sun, including
that they should build their own instead of buying what they asked for.

The Voice Of Stupidity:

Look, you sorry jackass, this is posted to
news:sci.electronics.design. If you don't want to be told how to build
something stay away from the design newsgroups. If this hurts your
feelings? Good. Go away until you learn how to read message headers and
how to use Usenet like an adult. Now piss off, there's nothing here here
to see for the likes of you.

Speaking of stupidity, did you bother to read your own headers?

Is SED in the newsgroup list, or is it not? If it is, it seems the OP
was asking for a *DESIGN*, or is a total idiot. You?

Try:
sci.electronics.misc,sci.electronics.equipment,misc.industry.electronics.marketplace,
sci.electronics.design,sci.electronics.components

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Yep, it's there. What's your point, Rich?

--
Keith

 

[keith]

On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 07:31:50 -0400, Spehro Pefhany wrote:

On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 21:23:21 -0400, the renowned keith
krw@att.bizzzz> wrote:

On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 23:18:09 +0000, Rich Grise wrote:

On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 16:01:27 -0400, Keith Williams wrote:

In article <Xns96307BDF694B5RhiannonPendragonxxx@216.196.97.142>,
Rhiannon@Pendragon.xxx says...

If I'd been interested in BUILDING it, I would have done just that, but
I'm interested in BUYING a finished product. How hard can that be for
you to understand?

Nice attitude, but the name of this newsgroup is sci.electronics.DESIGN.
That's sorta what we like to do around these parts.

I guess he wants to let OUR fingers do the f**king walking.
^^

Well, I assumed that Rhiannon is a she. ...a bitch in any case.

Yes, if your knowledge of Celtic goddesses is deficient, there's
always Fleetwood Mac:

I must confess that I cheated. I know not of FM lyrics, but I have a
niece with the name.

Rhiannon rings like a bell through the night And wouldn't you love to
love her
Takes to the sky like a bird in flight And who will be her lover

....and a beautiful woman she is.

--
Keith

 

[Rich The Newsgropup Wacko]

On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 19:04:23 -0700, Larry Brasfield wrote:

"Rich The Newsgropup Wacko" <wacko@example.com> wrote in
On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 12:03:25 -0700, Larry Brasfield wrote:
"Rich The Newsgropup Wacko" <wacko@example.com> wrote in
[Invitation to respond and response cut for space.]
#!/usr/bin/bash
echo `fortune all`
Experience is what causes a person to make new mistakes instead of old
ones.

We may be caught in a loop here.

Are you a bot?

How would I know?

By whether or not you feel.

Or you?

This is very interesting, and in fact is something that is not only
in research as we "speak," but this very communication is a component
or facet or aspect, if you will, of that research. Otherwise, I just
rely on my felt-sense. Most people have their felt-sense shut down,
and that's the affliction that gives rise to ULs like "you're only
using 10% of your brain." Pfaugh! You might be using 100% of your
_brain_, but you haven't even _ACKNOWLEDGED THE EXISTENCE_ of your
---- ---- Whoops! I almost had a "Norman: Coordinate" there! %-\

- Does it matter?

This is also a very cool question. I'm going to have some more drugs
now.
--
Cheers!
Rich
------
The Great Movie Posters: An AVALANCHE of KILLER WORMS! -- Squirm (1976)
Most Movies Live Less Than Two Hours. This Is One of Everlasting Torment!
-- The New House on the Left (1977) WE ARE GOING TO EAT YOU! -- Zombie
(1980) It's not human and it's got an axe. -- The Prey (1981)

 

[Rich The Newsgropup Wacko]

On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 19:04:23 -0700, Larry Brasfield wrote:

"Rich The Newsgropup Wacko" <wacko@example.com> wrote in
On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 12:03:25 -0700, Larry Brasfield wrote:
"Rich The Newsgropup Wacko" <wacko@example.com> wrote in

We may be caught in a loop here.

Are you a bot?

How would I know? Or you? Does it matter?

It's not that it matters if you're human or machine, but what
does matter is, now that we've engaged, what kind of games we
can play with the heads of our esteemed audience. I must warn
you, if we choose to play an adversarial sort of game, I could
make Fred Bloggs look like Sister Betrille. But I only said
that to get it out of the way - I haven't ever really picked up
an adversarial sort of vibe from you, just that you have such
sensitive hotbuttons, in such narrowly-defined areas of expertise.

But coming up with "caught in a loop" did, in fact catch my
attention, and I thought I'd make up a new game, I guess.

Did you know that there's a bot that's a regular on
news:alt.religion.wicca ? For extra credit, lurk there for
awhile or browse a few hundred or so recent messages, and
see if you can figure out which nym it is. ;-)
--
Cheers!
Rich
------
People who think they know everything greatly annoy those of us who do.

 

[Larry Brasfield]

"Rich The Newsgropup Wacko" <wacko@example.com> wrote in message newsan.2005.04.08.03.27.30.78402@example.com...

On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 19:04:23 -0700, Larry Brasfield wrote:
"Rich The Newsgropup Wacko" <wacko@example.com> wrote in
....
Are you a bot?

How would I know?

By whether or not you feel.

My creator(s) have effected an effective simulacrum of
feeling, enough so that I cannot distinguish it from the
reports of others on such matters. So, objectively, I
did not think of that as dispositive, at least until now.

Or you?

This is very interesting, and in fact is something that is not only
in research as we "speak," but this very communication is a component
or facet or aspect, if you will, of that research.

Ooohh. I feel like a bug seeing a big eye through
a magnifying glass. Either creepy or fascinating.

Otherwise, I just rely on my felt-sense.

That can be reliable, depending on what you want.

Most people have their felt-sense shut down,
and that's the affliction that gives rise to ULs like "you're only
using 10% of your brain." Pfaugh!

Most times when I've heard that notion, it has been
from people who seemed to believe they used more
of their brain than others. I was never so sure.

You might be using 100% of your
_brain_, but you haven't even _ACKNOWLEDGED THE EXISTENCE_ of your
---- ---- Whoops! I almost had a "Norman: Coordinate" there! %-\

I'm afraid I've failed the inkblot test. Filling in those
blanks is just too hard, considering all the choices
that must be excluded. Illogical, but there it is.

- Does it matter?

This is also a very cool question. I'm going to have some more drugs
now.

Have fun!

--
--Larry Brasfield
email: donotspam_larry_brasfield@hotmail.com
Above views may belong only to me.

 

[Larry Brasfield]

(sci.electronics.misc and sci.electronics.components
removed from followups, leaving only sci.electronics.design .)

"Rich The Newsgropup Wacko" <wacko@example.com> wrote
in message newsan.2005.04.08.03.33.59.24348@example.com...

On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 19:04:23 -0700, Larry Brasfield wrote:
"Rich The Newsgropup Wacko" <wacko@example.com> wrote in
On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 12:03:25 -0700, Larry Brasfield wrote:
"Rich The Newsgropup Wacko" <wacko@example.com> wrote in

We may be caught in a loop here.

Are you a bot?

How would I know? Or you? Does it matter?

It's not that it matters if you're human or machine, but what
does matter is, now that we've engaged, what kind of games we
can play with the heads of our esteemed audience.

Sounds too complicated to work in any real world.
(Just an opinion, based on limitations I perceive.)

I must warn
you, if we choose to play an adversarial sort of game, I could
make Fred Bloggs look like Sister Betrille.

Almost seems tempting, but I'm way too fond of
my memories of young Sally to jeopardize them.

[snip]

But coming up with "caught in a loop" did, in fact catch my
attention, and I thought I'd make up a new game, I guess.

Hmmm. Are the rules consistent enough that anybody
has a chance of figuring them out, ultimately?

Did you know that there's a bot that's a regular on
news:alt.religion.wicca ? For extra credit, lurk there for
awhile or browse a few hundred or so recent messages, and
see if you can figure out which nym it is. ;-)

I guess I'll take a look without worrying about credit.

Cheers!
Rich
------
People who think they know everything greatly annoy those of us who do.

I'll leave that bait on the hook, thanks anyway.

Best regards,
--
--Larry Brasfield
email: donotspam_larry_brasfield@hotmail.com
Above views may belong only to me.

 

[Richard the Dreaded Liber]

On Fri, 08 Apr 2005 23:07:49 -0700, Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun, the Dark
Remover" wrote:

On Fri, 08 Apr 2005 23:07:49 -0700, Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun, the Dark

"Rich The Newsgropup Wacko" <wacko@example.com> wrote in message
On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 18:57:38 +0100, John Woodgate wrote:
I read in sci.electronics.design that Rich The Newsgropup Wacko
....
Oh, dear. I've been wrapping at 79.

So it's all my fault.

Don't cry. We are talking about line length, not your age.

LOL!

While we're on that subject.. I said my neighbor who's 92, is getting
close to 3 gigaseconds.

Whoa. My thought proceese were intrputed by this on TV. 20 out of 24
quit, but the four others are sticking up for their rights. The outcome
should be interesting.

http://abcnews.go.com/2020/GiveMeABreak/story?id=650390&page=1

(click on the next button in the extreme lower right to go to the other
pages.)

So, smokers can be legally discriminated against in Michigan, huh? I say
we have a lot more to fear from the state religion of antismokerism than
from any other fanatical fundamentalists.

It's just a control freak issue, like any other religion. "I'm gonna save
your soul if I have to burn you at the stake to do it!"

May Mother have mercy on us.

Thanks,
Rich

 

[Rich Grise]

On Fri, 08 Apr 2005 21:44:18 -0700, Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun, the Dark

"John Woodgate" <jmw@jmwa.demon.contraspam.yuk> wrote in message
I read in sci.electronics.design that "Watson A.Name - \"Watt Sun, the
And the extra ">" makes the line longer than the standard 72
characters, so the last word gets lopped off and added to its own
line below.

That is why you are advised to set your line length BELOW 72
characters.
I tend to use 68, because any text that gets more than four >s isn't
usually worth the bother.

In the options I can find fonts and stationery, business cards, but no
line length.

The only thing I can think of is to increase the point size of the courier
font. That way the letters are bigger and take up more of the line, so
there are fewer per line.

Maybe I should start doing like some others do, and post with variable
pitch fonts. That way the number of letters per line will be much greater
and the first time they get broken, they will be split right in half. ;-P

That would kind of throw a monkey wrench in your ASCIImatics! ;-) The
classy thing to do, of course, is hand-rewrap if it's needed. And trimming
all of the extra subject lines off the headers cleans up a post
considerably, hint hint. ;-)

Cheers!
Rich

 

[Watson A.Name - \"Watt Su]

"Rhiannon Pendragon" <Rhiannon@Pendragon.xxx> wrote in message
news:Xns962FA7FB81658RhiannonPendragonxxx@216.196.97.142...

"Watson A.Name - \"Watt Sun, the Dark Remover\""
NOSPAM@dslextreme.com
wrote :


"Rhiannon Pendragon" <Rhiannon@Pendragon.xxx> wrote in message
news:Xns962EE6DB87673RhiannonPendragonxxx@216.196.97.142...
"Watson A.Name - \"Watt Sun, the Dark Remover\""
NOSPAM@dslextreme.com
wrote :


"Rhiannon Pendragon" <Rhiannon@Pendragon.xxx> wrote in message
news:Xns96299A9ABABC3RhiannonPendragonxxx@216.196.97.142...
Does anyone sell an inexpensive indoor tabletop motion detector
that
controls a lamp?

You just buy onw that installs in a wall switch box, and put it
on
the
table. You buy one of those blue electrical switch boxes for
fifty
cents, and mount it in there. Run the wires out to the plug.

Rant> I hate those things. At work, every time I'm in a room
with
one, I'm under the desk hooking up the PC, or sitting there
waiting,
and
the damn motion sensor switch turns off. I gotta get up and wave
the
hands or whateve to get it to go back on. And then a few mins
later
it
does it again! Grrrr.. >:-( </Rant

I understand, but I just want this as a little light to come on
when I
enter a dark area of the house, to light my way until I can get to
a
switch.

You'd think some smart guys would have already come up with a
little
tabletop box motion controller with an outlet for a lamp. They
already
have
almost everything else.

I'm not sure why you're saying this. I did a google search for
portable
motion sensor light and came up with 830,000 hits, among them this
one:
http://www.safetycentral.com/safetycentral/baopmoacseli.html


That's battery operated, I've been talking about a 120VAC desktop unit
that
you could plug a lamp into.

Oh, OK.. 829,999 hits.

 

[Graham W]

Rhiannon Pendragon wrote:

"Watson A.Name - \"Watt Sun, the Dark Remover\""
NOSPAM@dslextreme.com> wrote :
...
I'm not sure why you're saying this. I did a google search for
portable motion sensor light and came up with 830,000 hits, among
them this one:
http://www.safetycentral.com/safetycentral/baopmoacseli.html


That's battery operated, I've been talking about a 120VAC desktop
unit that you could plug a lamp into.

Wasn't there a 'hand-clap' activated lamp a little while ago?


--
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Change 'news' to 'sewn' in my Reply address to avoid my spam filter.

 

[Watson A.Name - \"Watt Su]

"Rich Grise" <richgrise@example.net> wrote in message
newsan.2005.04.06.23.13.16.267741@example.net...

On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 13:23:46 -0500, Voice of freedom wrote:
"Graham W" <graham@his.com.puter.INVALID> wrote :
Rhiannon Pendragon wrote:
"Watson A.Name - \"Watt Sun, the Dark Remover\""
NOSPAM@dslextreme.com> wrote :
...
I'm not sure why you're saying this. I did a google search for
portable motion sensor light and came up with 830,000 hits, among
them
this one:
http://www.safetycentral.com/safetycentral/baopmoacseli.html


That's battery operated, I've been talking about a 120VAC desktop
unit
that you could plug a lamp into.

Wasn't there a 'hand-clap' activated lamp a little while ago?

Yeah, there was most anything else you can think of, but she was
asking
about a specific thing. It always amazes me, in a group like this,
how
someone can ask a simple direct question, and dozens of people will
chime
in telling them about everything else under the sun, including that
they
should build their own instead of buying what they asked for.

No, it's people come in and ask a vague question, other people
endeavor to
read the OP's mind, and guess at what will serve the application, and
the
OP comes back and bitches, "No, that's not it..." until somebody
finally
guesses right or the OP gets all frustrated and has a tantrum because
people haven't told him/her what he/she wants to hear.

I'll agree with you 100% on that one.

Thanks,
Rich

 

[John Woodgate]

I read in sci.electronics.design that Rich The Newsgropup Wacko
<wacko@example.com> wrote (in
<pan.2005.04.07.16.10.01.733498@example.com&gt about 'Indoor tabletop
motion detector???', on Thu, 7 Apr 2005:

Oh, dear. I've been wrapping at 79.

So it's all my fault.

Don't cry. We are talking about line length, not your age.
--
Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.
There are two sides to every question, except
'What is a Moebius strip?'
http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk

 

[Watson A.Name - \"Watt Su]

"Rich The Newsgropup Wacko" <wacko@example.com> wrote in message
newsan.2005.04.07.03.12.27.89960@example.com...

On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 19:03:16 -0700, Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun, the
Dark Remover" wrote:


"Rich Grise" <richgrise@example.net> wrote in message
newsan.2005.04.06.23.13.16.267741@example.net...
On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 13:23:46 -0500, Voice of freedom wrote:
"Graham W" <graham@his.com.puter.INVALID> wrote :
Rhiannon Pendragon wrote:
"Watson A.Name - \"Watt Sun, the Dark Remover\""
NOSPAM@dslextreme.com> wrote :
...
I'm not sure why you're saying this. I did a google search
for
portable motion sensor light and came up with 830,000 hits,
among
them
this one:
http://www.safetycentral.com/safetycentral/baopmoacseli.html


That's battery operated, I've been talking about a 120VAC
desktop
unit
that you could plug a lamp into.

Wasn't there a 'hand-clap' activated lamp a little while ago?

Yeah, there was most anything else you can think of, but she was
asking
about a specific thing. It always amazes me, in a group like
this,
how
someone can ask a simple direct question, and dozens of people
will
chime
in telling them about everything else under the sun, including
that
they
should build their own instead of buying what they asked for.

No, it's people come in and ask a vague question, other people
endeavor to
read the OP's mind, and guess at what will serve the application,
and
the
OP comes back and bitches, "No, that's not it..." until somebody
finally
guesses right or the OP gets all frustrated and has a tantrum
because
people haven't told him/her what he/she wants to hear.

I'll agree with you 100% on that one.

Thanks,
Rich

But could you keep your quoted stuff from splattering all down a
hundred lines or so, most of which contain one word?

Or none?

I think that's caused by the added angle brackets ">" and the browser or
NG reader, and there's not much we can do about that. Seems like
everyone's NG reader does it. Once the first ">" is put onto the line,
the end of the previous line has a hard return on it. After that, the
line loses its ability to be reflowed. And the extra ">" makes the line
longer than the standard 72 characters, so the last word gets lopped off
and added to its own line below.

Sometimes I've reflowed a short paragraph manually, but it's just too
time consuming to do to anything more than a few lines. I knows it's
ugly, but if you haven't read the thread previously, you just have to
put up with it.

;-D
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Rich Grise,
Newsgroup Wacko Extraordinaire