incredible advance!

J

John Larkin

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2493931/New-device-harvests-electricity-background-radiation-like-Wi-Fi.html

You could use the energy captured from your cell phone to charge your cell
phone!


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www.highlandtechnology.com jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com

Precision electronic instrumentation
Picosecond-resolution Digital Delay and Pulse generators
Custom timing and laser controllers
Photonics and fiberoptic TTL data links
VME analog, thermocouple, LVDT, synchro, tachometer
Multichannel arbitrary waveform generators
 
On Saturday, November 9, 2013 11:27:51 AM UTC-8, John Larkin wrote:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2493931/New-device-harvests-electricity-background-radiation-like-Wi-Fi.html

You could use the energy captured from your cell phone to charge your cell
phone!
Click to expand...

But your new cell phone would be huge. I believe they are using magnetic resonance tuned to the cell frequencies. The phone carriers are probably working on anti-resonance frequency hopping or something. But until then, they might have to charge everybody for living in their air-space, with or without a phone.
 
On Saturday, November 9, 2013 2:27:51 PM UTC-5, John Larkin wrote:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2493931/New-device-harvests-electricity-background-radiation-like-Wi-Fi.html



You could use the energy captured from your cell phone to charge your cell

phone!
Click to expand...

Do you have any idea of the efficiency of the phone PA?

If there's that much wireless energy floating around, it's no wonder global warming is accelerating, we're microwaving the place to death.
 
On Saturday, November 9, 2013 3:11:08 PM UTC-5, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 9 Nov 2013 12:01:06 -0800 (PST), bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:



On Saturday, November 9, 2013 2:27:51 PM UTC-5, John Larkin wrote:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2493931/New-device-harvests-electricity-background-radiation-like-Wi-Fi.html







You could use the energy captured from your cell phone to charge your cell



phone!







Do you have any idea of the efficiency of the phone PA?



If there's that much wireless energy floating around, it's no wonder global warming is accelerating, we're microwaving the place to death.



I especially liked the idea of capturing energy from satellites. Imagine all the

things you could do with a few femtowatts.



Seven volts of electricity is more than five volts of electricity!





--



John Larkin Highland Technology Inc

www.highlandtechnology.com jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com



Precision electronic instrumentation

Picosecond-resolution Digital Delay and Pulse generators

Custom timing and laser controllers

Photonics and fiberoptic TTL data links

VME analog, thermocouple, LVDT, synchro, tachometer

Multichannel arbitrary waveform generators
Click to expand...

The undergrad there also invented an artificial snow blowing machine. The snow is artificial not the machine.
 
On Saturday, November 9, 2013 12:11:08 PM UTC-8, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 9 Nov 2013 12:01:06 -0800 (PST), bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:

On Saturday, November 9, 2013 2:27:51 PM UTC-5, John Larkin wrote:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2493931/New-device-harvests-electricity-background-radiation-like-Wi-Fi.html

You could use the energy captured from your cell phone to charge your cell
phone!

Do you have any idea of the efficiency of the phone PA?

If there's that much wireless energy floating around, it's no wonder global warming is accelerating, we're microwaving the place to death.

I especially liked the idea of capturing energy from satellites. Imagine all the
things you could do with a few femtowatts.
Click to expand...

The main target is for power from cell towers, but they don't want to upset the phone companies. They will have bigger power bills.

> Seven volts of electricity is more than five volts of electricity!

But for how many mA? Several feet long antenna?
 
On Saturday, November 9, 2013 12:47:34 PM UTC-8, Syd Rumpo wrote:
On 09/11/2013 19:27, John Larkin wrote:



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2493931/New-device-harvests-electricity-background-radiation-like-Wi-Fi.html



You could use the energy captured from your cell phone to charge your cell
phone!

I used this technology back in the mid sixties to provide power for a
radio receiver.
Click to expand...

No, you didn't. Some of us, including you and me (at first), missed his joke of recharging by itself.
 
On Saturday, November 9, 2013 1:09:31 PM UTC-8, Syd Rumpo wrote:
On 09/11/2013 20:50, edward.ming.lee@gmail.com wrote:

On Saturday, November 9, 2013 12:47:34 PM UTC-8, Syd Rumpo wrote:

On 09/11/2013 19:27, John Larkin wrote:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2493931/New-device-harvests-electricity-background-radiation-like-Wi-Fi.html

You could use the energy captured from your cell phone to charge your cell
phone!

I used this technology back in the mid sixties to provide power for a
radio receiver.

No, you didn't. Some of us, including you and me (at first), missed his joke of recharging by itself.

I meant the energy capture technology, which I did use. John's idea is
good but dangerous. What if the safety systems went wrong and the
'phone just kept charging? Kabooom, that's what.
Click to expand...

No difference from wired charging. You can protect it with good charging chip and algorithm. Charging from itself is a joke, but charging from cell towers or even nearby phones are possible. But they might outlaw it with Digital Signal CopyRight Act (DSCA), you can't steal other's people signals or wireless power.
 
A transmitter can supply many receivers. Lets say it's a TV transmitter
of 10kW and it's being picked up by 10,000 receivers each using -10W
(minus of course because the power is coming in). That's a surplus of
90kW.

There are two reasons this is kept secret. Safety as alluded to above is
one, Exxon Mobil is the other.
Click to expand...

I don think Exxon cares about who is paying for power: consumers or transmission companies. But AT&T & Verizon would, if people starts drawing powers from cell signals.
 
On Sat, 9 Nov 2013 12:01:06 -0800 (PST), bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:

On Saturday, November 9, 2013 2:27:51 PM UTC-5, John Larkin wrote:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2493931/New-device-harvests-electricity-background-radiation-like-Wi-Fi.html



You could use the energy captured from your cell phone to charge your cell

phone!



Do you have any idea of the efficiency of the phone PA?

If there's that much wireless energy floating around, it's no wonder global warming is accelerating, we're microwaving the place to death.
Click to expand...

I especially liked the idea of capturing energy from satellites. Imagine all the
things you could do with a few femtowatts.

Seven volts of electricity is more than five volts of electricity!


--

John Larkin Highland Technology Inc
www.highlandtechnology.com jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com

Precision electronic instrumentation
Picosecond-resolution Digital Delay and Pulse generators
Custom timing and laser controllers
Photonics and fiberoptic TTL data links
VME analog, thermocouple, LVDT, synchro, tachometer
Multichannel arbitrary waveform generators
 
On Sat, 9 Nov 2013 11:41:20 -0800 (PST), edward.ming.lee@gmail.com Gave
us:

>On Saturday, November 9, 2013 11:27:51 AM UTC-8, John Larkin wrote:

<http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2493931/New-device-harvests-electricity-background-radiation-like-Wi-Fi.html>

Encapsulate your links, dufus. <>

You could use the energy captured from your cell phone to charge your cell
phone!

But your new cell phone would be huge. I believe they are using
magnetic resonance tuned to the cell frequencies. The phone carriers
are probably working on anti-resonance frequency hopping or something.
But until then, they might have to charge everybody for living in
their air-space, with or without a phone.
Click to expand...

There are sidewalks in Sweden or somewhere with pressure plates in
them full of piezo transducers which charge batteries which fire the
sidewalk 'street lighting'. LED, I think. Supplemented by solar panels
as well, IIRC.
 
On 11/10/2013 2:30 AM, Robert Baer wrote:
John Larkin wrote:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2493931/New-device-harvests-electricity-background-radiation-like-Wi-Fi.html


You could use the energy captured from your cell phone to charge your
cell
phone!


Well, does that mean the energy created by congress critters, when
they lie, could be used replace all of the power generators in the US?
Click to expand...

He forgot the smiley.
 
On 09/11/2013 19:27, John Larkin wrote:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2493931/New-device-harvests-electricity-background-radiation-like-Wi-Fi.html

You could use the energy captured from your cell phone to charge your cell
phone!
Click to expand...

I used this technology back in the mid sixties to provide power for a
radio receiver.

Cheers
--
Syd
 
On Sat, 09 Nov 2013 11:27:51 -0800, John Larkin wrote:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2493931/New-device-harvests-electricity-background-radiation-like-Wi-Fi.html

You could use the energy captured from your cell phone to charge your cell
phone!
Click to expand...

Gullible's travails!

--
"Electricity is of two kinds, positive and negative. The difference
is, I presume, that one comes a little more expensive, but is more
durable; the other is a cheaper thing, but the moths get into it."
(Stephen Leacock)
 
On 09/11/2013 20:50, edward.ming.lee@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, November 9, 2013 12:47:34 PM UTC-8, Syd Rumpo wrote:
On 09/11/2013 19:27, John Larkin wrote:



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2493931/New-device-harvests-electricity-background-radiation-like-Wi-Fi.html



You could use the energy captured from your cell phone to charge your cell
phone!

I used this technology back in the mid sixties to provide power for a
radio receiver.


No, you didn't. Some of us, including you and me (at first), missed his joke of recharging by itself.
Click to expand...

I meant the energy capture technology, which I did use. John's idea is
good but dangerous. What if the safety systems went wrong and the
'phone just kept charging? Kabooom, that's what.

Cheers
--
Syd
 
On 09/11/2013 21:19, edward.ming.lee@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday, November 9, 2013 1:09:31 PM UTC-8, Syd Rumpo wrote:
On 09/11/2013 20:50, edward.ming.lee@gmail.com wrote:

On Saturday, November 9, 2013 12:47:34 PM UTC-8, Syd Rumpo wrote:

On 09/11/2013 19:27, John Larkin wrote:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2493931/New-device-harvests-electricity-background-radiation-like-Wi-Fi.html

You could use the energy captured from your cell phone to charge your cell
phone!

I used this technology back in the mid sixties to provide power for a
radio receiver.

No, you didn't. Some of us, including you and me (at first), missed his joke of recharging by itself.

I meant the energy capture technology, which I did use. John's idea is
good but dangerous. What if the safety systems went wrong and the
'phone just kept charging? Kabooom, that's what.

No difference from wired charging. You can protect it with good charging chip and algorithm. Charging from itself is a joke, but charging from cell towers or even nearby phones are possible. But they might outlaw it with Digital Signal CopyRight Act (DSCA), you can't steal other's people signals or wireless power.
Click to expand...
A transmitter can supply many receivers. Lets say it's a TV transmitter
of 10kW and it's being picked up by 10,000 receivers each using -10W
(minus of course because the power is coming in). That's a surplus of
90kW.

There are two reasons this is kept secret. Safety as alluded to above is
one, Exxon Mobil is the other.

Cheers
--
Syd
 
On Sat, 9 Nov 2013 12:15:09 -0800 (PST), bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:

On Saturday, November 9, 2013 3:11:08 PM UTC-5, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 9 Nov 2013 12:01:06 -0800 (PST), bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com wrote:



On Saturday, November 9, 2013 2:27:51 PM UTC-5, John Larkin wrote:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2493931/New-device-harvests-electricity-background-radiation-like-Wi-Fi.html







You could use the energy captured from your cell phone to charge your cell



phone!







Do you have any idea of the efficiency of the phone PA?



If there's that much wireless energy floating around, it's no wonder global warming is accelerating, we're microwaving the place to death.



I especially liked the idea of capturing energy from satellites. Imagine all the

things you could do with a few femtowatts.



Seven volts of electricity is more than five volts of electricity!





--



John Larkin Highland Technology Inc

www.highlandtechnology.com jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com



Precision electronic instrumentation

Picosecond-resolution Digital Delay and Pulse generators

Custom timing and laser controllers

Photonics and fiberoptic TTL data links

VME analog, thermocouple, LVDT, synchro, tachometer

Multichannel arbitrary waveform generators

The undergrad there also invented an artificial snow blowing machine. The snow is artificial not the machine.
Click to expand...

For a second there, I wondered if there was a natural snow-blowing machine.


--

John Larkin Highland Technology Inc
www.highlandtechnology.com jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com

Precision electronic instrumentation
Picosecond-resolution Digital Delay and Pulse generators
Custom timing and laser controllers
Photonics and fiberoptic TTL data links
VME analog, thermocouple, LVDT, synchro, tachometer
Multichannel arbitrary waveform generators
 
On Sat, 9 Nov 2013 12:50:19 -0800 (PST), edward.ming.lee@gmail.com wrote:

On Saturday, November 9, 2013 12:47:34 PM UTC-8, Syd Rumpo wrote:
On 09/11/2013 19:27, John Larkin wrote:



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2493931/New-device-harvests-electricity-background-radiation-like-Wi-Fi.html



You could use the energy captured from your cell phone to charge your cell
phone!

I used this technology back in the mid sixties to provide power for a
radio receiver.


No, you didn't. Some of us, including you and me (at first), missed his joke of recharging by itself.
Click to expand...

There is a crystal set radio design that used un-tuned stations to power a
transistor amp for the tuned station. It does need a big longwire antenna, and
you need to be near several AM transmitters.

Some sort of parametric amp should be possible to do that, too.


--

John Larkin Highland Technology Inc
www.highlandtechnology.com jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com

Precision electronic instrumentation
Picosecond-resolution Digital Delay and Pulse generators
Custom timing and laser controllers
Photonics and fiberoptic TTL data links
VME analog, thermocouple, LVDT, synchro, tachometer
Multichannel arbitrary waveform generators
 
On 11/9/2013 1:27 PM, John Larkin wrote:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2493931/New-device-harvests-electricity-background-radiation-like-Wi-Fi.html

You could use the energy captured from your cell phone to charge your cell
phone!
Click to expand...

How long before we change the impedance of (not so) free space?
Mikek
 
"John Larkin" <jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in
message news:0aat79t1domra7rebl8r8qj5q1uao63ptt@4ax.com...
For a second there, I wondered if there was a natural snow-blowing
machine.
Click to expand...

Are Mother-In-Laws natural?

Tim

--
Seven Transistor Labs
Electrical Engineering Consultation
Website: http://seventransistorlabs.com
 
"amdx" <nojunk@knology.net> wrote in message
news:l5mavt$r2f$1@dont-email.me...
> How long before we change the impedance of (not so) free space?

Imagine we put a tax on radio transmissions by putting a large resistor in
parallel with free space -- it would hardly change the speed of light, so
that people in their daily business wouldn't notice the change (physicists
would unfortunately be inconvenienced, but they aren't a voting majority),
and it would only need to drop Zo by a fraction of an ohm to generate more
than enough revenue to cover the defecit! Instead of that pesky inexact
377.something ohms, we could also round it to exactly 377, or even 375, a
nice round number!...

Tim

--
Seven Transistor Labs
Electrical Engineering Consultation
Website: http://seventransistorlabs.com
 
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