If NASA scientists are right, the Thames will be freezing ov

[josephkk]

On Tue, 7 Feb 2012 19:32:31 -0800 (PST), mrstarbom@gmail.com wrote:

How will I know? : )

Hey Bomber, learn how to get your news client wanna-be (google groupers)
to quote a little of the previous post so that normal news readers can
figure out what you are replying to. Usenet is not a blog. A common
mistake of web-weenies writing web clients for Usenet (notably including
both Yahoo and Google).

?-)

 

[John Larkin]

On Thu, 09 Feb 2012 20:09:07 -0800, josephkk
<joseph_barrett@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

On Wed, 08 Feb 2012 10:55:12 -0800, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:


Paralysed? Not really. Maybe too easily distracted. Nobody is offering
me money to pursue any particular goal,

I sure wouldn't.

Another vanity-driven failure of judgement.

Hey, you're repulsive. It's against company policy to hire more repulsive
people.

One was enough? The "high" in Highland refers to the personal odour of
the founder, rather than some elevation in the landscape?

For someone who pretends to be an intellectual, you are a real dork.

The focus of your life has always been how smart you are. Pity it
hasn't worked for you. I've seen the syndrome many times, and it's
really stupid.

Look in a mirror, John.

Only when I have to.

Vanity is thy name.

Then why are you advising me to stare at myself in mirrors?

I often find it trying to

distinguish between you and Bill.

That's because you aren't interested in electronics.


--

John Larkin, President Highland Technology Inc
www.highlandtechnology.com jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com

Precision electronic instrumentation
Picosecond-resolution Digital Delay and Pulse generators
Custom timing and laser controllers
Photonics and fiberoptic TTL data links
VME analog, thermocouple, LVDT, synchro, tachometer
Multichannel arbitrary waveform generators

 

Sorry. Very slack. Thought only Bill was paying any attention.

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Feb 10, 5:09 am, josephkk <joseph_barr...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

On Wed, 08 Feb 2012 10:55:12 -0800, John Larkin









jlar...@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

Paralysed? Not really. Maybe too easily distracted. Nobody is offering
me money to pursue any particular goal,

I sure wouldn't.

Another vanity-driven failure of judgement.

Hey, you're repulsive. It's against company policy to hire more repulsive
people.

One was enough? The "high" in Highland refers to the personal odour of
the founder, rather than some elevation in the landscape?

For someone who pretends to be an intellectual, you are a real dork.

The focus of your life has always been how smart you are. Pity it
hasn't worked for you. I've seen the syndrome many times, and it's
really stupid.

Look in a mirror, John.  Vanity is thy name.  I often find it trying to
distinguish between you and Bill.
But then your company makes real products for sale to anybody, Bill makes
NOTHING and won't even do easy experiments.

I certainly haven't made anything recently, but the experiment that I
still haven't yet got around to doing isn't all that easy.

Measuring harmonic content that I hope to be something like 80dB to
90dB below the fundamental is a bit demanding - the aim is to compete
with Jim William's Wien Bridge oscillators (as described in his AN-34)

http://cds.linear.com/docs/Application%20Note/an43f.pdf

I'll have to block the fundamental with tunable notch - probably the
bridge differentiator circuit mined from "The Art of Electronics" -
and the circuit is going to contain a phased lock loop (to track the
oscillation frequency) and a lot of dividers to drive both the
demodulators to track the fundamental and demodulator that sampes the
various harmonics. It's all routine stuff, but there's going to be
quite a lot of it.

--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Feb 10, 5:55 am, John Larkin
<jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Thu, 09 Feb 2012 20:09:07 -0800, josephkk









joseph_barr...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On Wed, 08 Feb 2012 10:55:12 -0800, John Larkin
jlar...@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

Paralysed? Not really. Maybe too easily distracted. Nobody is offering
me money to pursue any particular goal,

I sure wouldn't.

Another vanity-driven failure of judgement.

Hey, you're repulsive. It's against company policy to hire more repulsive
people.

One was enough? The "high" in Highland refers to the personal odour of
the founder, rather than some elevation in the landscape?

For someone who pretends to be an intellectual, you are a real dork.

The focus of your life has always been how smart you are. Pity it
hasn't worked for you. I've seen the syndrome many times, and it's
really stupid.

Look in a mirror, John.

Only when I have to.

Vanity is thy name.

Then why are you advising me to stare at myself in mirrors?

  I often find it trying to

distinguish between you and Bill.

That's because you aren't interested in electronics.

That's John Larkin's mantra - he's good at electronics, and he thinks
that nobody else takes it a seriously as he does. The fact that he
doesn't pay serious attention to anything outside of electronics
(excepting perhaps his public image) doesn't actually justify his fond
belief that he design and sells "insanely good" electronics, but you
can see why he likes to think so.

--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Feb 10, 7:16 am, mrstar...@gmail.com wrote:

Sorry.  Very slack.  Thought only Bill was paying any attention.

You certainly aren't. I've also told you that you need to quote at
least the part of the previous post to which you were replying, and
here you've responded to josephkk's post berating you for this fault
without including any of his content.

If your plan is to present yourself as brain-damaged, you've succeeded
all too well.

--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

 

On Friday, 10 February 2012 19:29:33 UTC+10, Bill Sloman wrote:

On Feb 10, 7:16 am, mrstar...@gmail.com wrote:
Sorry.  Very slack.  Thought only Bill was paying any attention.

You certainly aren't.

No really - that's quite funny. You just can't help yourself, can you? Trying to put everybody straight. That time it really was accidental, but you leapt right in.

I've also told you that you need to quote at

least the part of the previous post to which you were replying, and
here you've responded to josephkk's post berating you for this fault
without including any of his content.
josephkk:

"Hey Bomber, learn how to get your news client wanna-be (google groupers)
to quote a little of the previous post so that normal news readers can
figure out what you are replying to. Usenet is not a blog. A common
mistake of web-weenies writing web clients for Usenet (notably including
both Yahoo and Google).

?-)"

That wasn't much of a berating! 'Hey Bomber' sounds quite friendly to me. Maybe you should check a dictionary, Bill. But you did not really expect me to follow your directives, did you?

If your plan is to present yourself as brain-damaged, you've succeeded
all too well.

--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

Let's just say I am brain-damaged... I'm still having a lot more fun than you are. And what's your excuse?

 

[Phil Hobbs]

mrstarbom@gmail.com wrote:

Sorry. Very slack. Thought only Bill was paying any attention.

The comment about your newsreader is apt, though. Nobody has any idea
whom you're replying to. The above is a quotation of your entire post
as it appears in a real newsreader.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs
--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics

160 North State Road #203
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510
845-480-2058

hobbs at electrooptical dot net
http://electrooptical.net

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Feb 10, 12:21 pm, mrstar...@gmail.com wrote:

On Friday, 10 February 2012 19:29:33 UTC+10, Bill Sloman  wrote:
On Feb 10, 7:16 am, mrstar...@gmail.com wrote:
Sorry.  Very slack.  Thought only Bill was paying any attention.

You certainly aren't.

No really - that's quite funny.  You just can't help yourself, can you?  Trying to put everybody straight.  That time it really was accidental,

This time it's accidental, but every other time it's been intentional?
We are supposed to imagine that you stopped being a nitwit when enough
people had pointed out that you were acting like a twit?

but you leapt right in.

You've been leaping right in at regular intervals over the past few
days - I'm just following your example, so you aren't really in any
position to complain

 I've also told you that you need to quote at> least the part of the previous post to which you were replying, and
here you've responded to josephkk's post berating you for this fault
without including any of his content.

josephkk:
"Hey Bomber, learn how to get your news client wanna-be (google groupers)
to quote a little of the previous post so that normal news readers can
figure out what you are replying to.  Usenet is not a blog.  A common
mistake of web-weenies writing web clients for Usenet (notably including
both Yahoo and Google).

?-)"

That wasn't much of a berating!

"Learn how to get ..." isn't exactly treating you with a lot of
respect.

 'Hey Bomber' sounds quite friendly to me. Maybe you should check a dictionary, Bill.  But you did not really expect me to follow your directives, did you?

No. You do come over as dim-witted twit, of the kind that takes a
while to wake up to the social norms when he invades a new
environment. I'm glad to see that the penny has finally dropped, but
it did take a while.

If your plan is to present yourself as brain-damaged, you've succeeded
all too well.

Let's just say I am brain-damaged... I'm still having a lot more fun than you are.

What makes you think that?

 And what's your excuse?

I'm bored and can't get excited about doing the stuff that I ought to
be doing. It's more of an explanation than an excuse, but you'll just
have to live with that.

--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

 

[John Larkin]

On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 01:24:47 -0800 (PST), Bill Sloman
<bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:

On Feb 10, 5:55 am, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Thu, 09 Feb 2012 20:09:07 -0800, josephkk









joseph_barr...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On Wed, 08 Feb 2012 10:55:12 -0800, John Larkin
jlar...@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

Paralysed? Not really. Maybe too easily distracted. Nobody is offering
me money to pursue any particular goal,

I sure wouldn't.

Another vanity-driven failure of judgement.

Hey, you're repulsive. It's against company policy to hire more repulsive
people.

One was enough? The "high" in Highland refers to the personal odour of
the founder, rather than some elevation in the landscape?

For someone who pretends to be an intellectual, you are a real dork.

The focus of your life has always been how smart you are. Pity it
hasn't worked for you. I've seen the syndrome many times, and it's
really stupid.

Look in a mirror, John.

Only when I have to.

Vanity is thy name.

Then why are you advising me to stare at myself in mirrors?

  I often find it trying to

distinguish between you and Bill.

That's because you aren't interested in electronics.

That's John Larkin's mantra - he's good at electronics, and he thinks
that nobody else takes it a seriously as he does. The fact that he
doesn't pay serious attention to anything outside of electronics
(excepting perhaps his public image) doesn't actually justify his fond
belief that he design and sells "insanely good" electronics, but you
can see why he likes to think so.

This is an electronics discussion group, you twit. Stop acting like
the village gossip and discuss some electronics. Get off your lazy ass
and *do* some electronics.

What a bunch of old hens peck and squawk here.


--

John Larkin, President Highland Technology Inc
www.highlandtechnology.com jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com

Precision electronic instrumentation
Picosecond-resolution Digital Delay and Pulse generators
Custom timing and laser controllers
Photonics and fiberoptic TTL data links
VME analog, thermocouple, LVDT, synchro, tachometer
Multichannel arbitrary waveform generators

 

[John Larkin]

On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 01:20:05 -0800 (PST), Bill Sloman
<bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:

On Feb 10, 5:09 am, josephkk <joseph_barr...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On Wed, 08 Feb 2012 10:55:12 -0800, John Larkin









jlar...@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

Paralysed? Not really. Maybe too easily distracted. Nobody is offering
me money to pursue any particular goal,

I sure wouldn't.

Another vanity-driven failure of judgement.

Hey, you're repulsive. It's against company policy to hire more repulsive
people.

One was enough? The "high" in Highland refers to the personal odour of
the founder, rather than some elevation in the landscape?

For someone who pretends to be an intellectual, you are a real dork.

The focus of your life has always been how smart you are. Pity it
hasn't worked for you. I've seen the syndrome many times, and it's
really stupid.

Look in a mirror, John.  Vanity is thy name.  I often find it trying to
distinguish between you and Bill.
But then your company makes real products for sale to anybody, Bill makes
NOTHING and won't even do easy experiments.

I certainly haven't made anything recently, but the experiment that I
still haven't yet got around to doing isn't all that easy.

Measuring harmonic content that I hope to be something like 80dB to
90dB below the fundamental is a bit demanding - the aim is to compete
with Jim William's Wien Bridge oscillators (as described in his AN-34)

http://cds.linear.com/docs/Application%20Note/an43f.pdf

I'll have to block the fundamental with tunable notch - probably the
bridge differentiator circuit mined from "The Art of Electronics" -
and the circuit is going to contain a phased lock loop (to track the
oscillation frequency) and a lot of dividers to drive both the
demodulators to track the fundamental and demodulator that sampes the
various harmonics. It's all routine stuff, but there's going to be
quite a lot of it.

Well, quit droning and dreaming and get going on it.


--

John Larkin, President Highland Technology Inc
www.highlandtechnology.com jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com

Precision electronic instrumentation
Picosecond-resolution Digital Delay and Pulse generators
Custom timing and laser controllers
Photonics and fiberoptic TTL data links
VME analog, thermocouple, LVDT, synchro, tachometer
Multichannel arbitrary waveform generators

 

[josephkk]

On Thu, 09 Feb 2012 20:55:47 -0800, John Larkin
<jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

Look in a mirror, John.

Only when I have to.

Vanity is thy name.

Then why are you advising me to stare at myself in mirrors?

I often find it trying to
distinguish between you and Bill.

That's because you aren't interested in electronics.

Cheap shot with the snippage John.

<unsnip>

But then your company makes real products for sale to anybody, Bill makes
NOTHING and won't even do easy experiments.

?-/

 

[beryl]

On 01/31/2012 09:17 AM, Joerg wrote:

John Devereux wrote:
...
E.g., you presumably think the "climategate" scientists were engaged in
a "conspiracy" to defraud the public or some such?


No, I just think that some of them were rather dishonest and have
exhibited ethically questionable behavior.

Well, that's pretty watered down. Here is some genuine conspiracy mixed
in with dishonesty and questionable ethics.

<http://arstechnica.com/science/news/2012/02/leaked-docs-heartland-institute-think-tank-pays-climate-contrarians-very-well.ars>

http://tinyurl.com/6m766sh

This is a nice piece:
"Effort will focus on providing curriculum that shows that the topic of
climate change is controversial and uncertain—two key points that are
effective at dissuading teachers from teaching science."

 

[John Larkin]

On Wed, 15 Feb 2012 19:29:56 -0800, josephkk
<joseph_barrett@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

On Thu, 09 Feb 2012 20:55:47 -0800, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:


Look in a mirror, John.

Only when I have to.

Vanity is thy name.

Then why are you advising me to stare at myself in mirrors?

I often find it trying to
distinguish between you and Bill.

That's because you aren't interested in electronics.

Cheap shot with the snippage John.

Sloman has all day to post hundreds of lines of droning insults and
off-topic blather. I have a day job. There's no way I'm going to read
all of his trash, much less respond to all of it.


--

John Larkin, President Highland Technology Inc
www.highlandtechnology.com jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com

Precision electronic instrumentation
Picosecond-resolution Digital Delay and Pulse generators
Custom timing and laser controllers
Photonics and fiberoptic TTL data links
VME analog, thermocouple, LVDT, synchro, tachometer
Multichannel arbitrary waveform generators

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Feb 16, 5:14 am, John Larkin
<jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Wed, 15 Feb 2012 19:29:56 -0800, josephkk









joseph_barr...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On Thu, 09 Feb 2012 20:55:47 -0800, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

Look in a mirror, John.

Only when I have to.

Vanity is thy name.

Then why are you advising me to stare at myself in mirrors?

 I often find it trying to
distinguish between you and Bill.

That's because you aren't interested in electronics.

Cheap shot with the snippage John.

Sloman has all day to post hundreds of lines of droning insults and
off-topic blather.

Actually, I respond to off-topic blather, a lot of which comes from
John Larkin. He regards any correction of his misconceptions as a
personal insult, and hates reading through the detail that reveals
where he screwed up.

I have a day job. There's no way I'm going to read
all of his trash, much less respond to all of it.

Mainly because I'm mostly right and he's mostly wrong. It's hard to
produce a snappy response to some tedious argument that shows that you
didn't know what you were talking about, so his reactions tend to
emphasise that I'm not designing much electronics at the moment, while
he is. It never has much to do with the reliability of the information
that he espoused, but does seem to sooth his easily injured vanity.

For someone with a day job, he does post a lot here. He's the all-time
leading poster with 28271 posts to his credit. I'm fifth, with 16448.
I am leading this month, with 139 posts, but John isn't far behind
with 127, closely followed by Phil Hobbs with 126.

My feeling is that both of them are active here at least in part as a
way of generating interest in their businesses - which case the day
job would include posting here.

--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

 

[John Devereux]

beryl <fourl@rd.net> writes:

On 01/31/2012 09:17 AM, Joerg wrote:
John Devereux wrote:
...
E.g., you presumably think the "climategate" scientists were engaged in
a "conspiracy" to defraud the public or some such?


No, I just think that some of them were rather dishonest and have
exhibited ethically questionable behavior.

Well, that's pretty watered down. Here is some genuine conspiracy
mixed in with dishonesty and questionable ethics.

http://arstechnica.com/science/news/2012/02/leaked-docs-heartland-institute-think-tank-pays-climate-contrarians-very-well.ars

http://tinyurl.com/6m766sh

This is a nice piece:
"Effort will focus on providing curriculum that shows that the topic
of climate change is controversial and uncertain—two key points that
are effective at dissuading teachers from teaching science."

Ha ha yes I saw that piece too. Does seem to confirm what Bill has been
going on about!


--

John Devereux

 

[John Larkin]

On Wed, 15 Feb 2012 22:54:09 -0800 (PST), Bill Sloman
<bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:

On Feb 16, 5:14 am, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Wed, 15 Feb 2012 19:29:56 -0800, josephkk









joseph_barr...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On Thu, 09 Feb 2012 20:55:47 -0800, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

Look in a mirror, John.

Only when I have to.

Vanity is thy name.

Then why are you advising me to stare at myself in mirrors?

 I often find it trying to
distinguish between you and Bill.

That's because you aren't interested in electronics.

Cheap shot with the snippage John.

Sloman has all day to post hundreds of lines of droning insults and
off-topic blather.

Actually, I respond to off-topic blather, a lot of which comes from
John Larkin. He regards any correction of his misconceptions as a
personal insult, and hates reading through the detail that reveals
where he screwed up.

I have a day job. There's no way I'm going to read
all of his trash, much less respond to all of it.

Mainly because I'm mostly right and he's mostly wrong. It's hard to
produce a snappy response to some tedious argument that shows that you
didn't know what you were talking about, so his reactions tend to
emphasise that I'm not designing much electronics at the moment,

This is an electronics design group, you idiot.


--

John Larkin, President Highland Technology Inc
www.highlandtechnology.com jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com

Precision electronic instrumentation
Picosecond-resolution Digital Delay and Pulse generators
Custom timing and laser controllers
Photonics and fiberoptic TTL data links
VME analog, thermocouple, LVDT, synchro, tachometer
Multichannel arbitrary waveform generators

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Feb 16, 4:09 pm, John Larkin
<jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Wed, 15 Feb 2012 22:54:09 -0800 (PST), Bill Sloman

bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Feb 16, 5:14 am, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Wed, 15 Feb 2012 19:29:56 -0800, josephkk

joseph_barr...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On Thu, 09 Feb 2012 20:55:47 -0800, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

Look in a mirror, John.

Only when I have to.

Vanity is thy name.

Then why are you advising me to stare at myself in mirrors?

I often find it trying to
distinguish between you and Bill.

That's because you aren't interested in electronics.

Cheap shot with the snippage John.

Sloman has all day to post hundreds of lines of droning insults and
off-topic blather.

Actually, I respond to off-topic blather, a lot of which comes from
John Larkin. He regards any correction of his misconceptions as a
personal insult, and hates reading through the detail that reveals
where he screwed up.

I have a day job. There's no way I'm going to read
all of his trash, much less respond to all of it.

Mainly because I'm mostly right and he's mostly wrong. It's hard to
produce a snappy response to some tedious argument that shows that you
didn't know what you were talking about, so his reactions tend to
emphasise that I'm not designing much electronics at the moment,

This is an electronics design group, you idiot.

Since you are exactly the kind of idiot who regularly posts off-topic
nonsense here, you've got no business telling me that this is an
electronics design group, and it's amazingly stupid of you to react to
my posting corrections to your off-topic nonsense by drawing attention
to the fact that nothing I've designed recently has yet been turned
into hardware.

If someone would buy up some of my excessive free time and occupy it
with the process of turning inspiration into loaded printed circuit
board, I'd have less time to devote to being aware of the great issues
of the day, and the pathetic inadequacies of your opinions on these
subjects.

--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

 

[John Larkin]

On Thu, 16 Feb 2012 14:30:42 -0800 (PST), Bill Sloman
<bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:

On Feb 16, 4:09 pm, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Wed, 15 Feb 2012 22:54:09 -0800 (PST), Bill Sloman

bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
On Feb 16, 5:14 am, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Wed, 15 Feb 2012 19:29:56 -0800, josephkk

joseph_barr...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
On Thu, 09 Feb 2012 20:55:47 -0800, John Larkin
jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

Look in a mirror, John.

Only when I have to.

Vanity is thy name.

Then why are you advising me to stare at myself in mirrors?

I often find it trying to
distinguish between you and Bill.

That's because you aren't interested in electronics.

Cheap shot with the snippage John.

Sloman has all day to post hundreds of lines of droning insults and
off-topic blather.

Actually, I respond to off-topic blather, a lot of which comes from
John Larkin. He regards any correction of his misconceptions as a
personal insult, and hates reading through the detail that reveals
where he screwed up.

I have a day job. There's no way I'm going to read
all of his trash, much less respond to all of it.

Mainly because I'm mostly right and he's mostly wrong. It's hard to
produce a snappy response to some tedious argument that shows that you
didn't know what you were talking about, so his reactions tend to
emphasise that I'm not designing much electronics at the moment,

This is an electronics design group, you idiot.

Since you are exactly the kind of idiot who regularly posts off-topic
nonsense here, you've got no business telling me that this is an
electronics design group, and it's amazingly stupid of you to react to
my posting corrections to your off-topic nonsense by drawing attention
to the fact that nothing I've designed recently has yet been turned
into hardware.

If someone would buy up some of my excessive free time and occupy it
with the process of turning inspiration into loaded printed circuit
board,

Unlikely.


--

John Larkin, President Highland Technology Inc
www.highlandtechnology.com jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com

Precision electronic instrumentation
Picosecond-resolution Digital Delay and Pulse generators
Custom timing and laser controllers
Photonics and fiberoptic TTL data links
VME analog, thermocouple, LVDT, synchro, tachometer
Multichannel arbitrary waveform generators

 

On Feb 16, 6:22 am, John Devereux <j...@devereux.me.uk> wrote:

beryl <fo...@rd.net> writes:
On 01/31/2012 09:17 AM, Joerg wrote:
John Devereux wrote:
 ...
E.g., you presumably think the "climategate" scientists were engaged in
a "conspiracy" to defraud the public or some such?

No, I just think that some of them were rather dishonest and have
exhibited ethically questionable behavior.

Well, that's pretty watered down. Here is some genuine conspiracy
mixed in with dishonesty and questionable ethics.

http://arstechnica.com/science/news/2012/02/leaked-docs-heartland-ins....

http://tinyurl.com/6m766sh

This is a nice piece:
"Effort will focus on providing curriculum that shows that the topic
of climate change is controversial and uncertain—two key points that
are effective at dissuading teachers from teaching science."

Ha ha yes I saw that piece too. Does seem to confirm what Bill has been
going on about!

Seems a pittance compared to what the panic-people are getting though,
doesn't it? Why, Al Gore alone's raked in $100e6.

--
Cheers,
James Arthur