I love these stories:

[Noddy]

"Klokmeester" <whowhere@andwhy.com> wrote in message
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Wearing it like it's clothing, especially when it's cheap Chinese shit is.

Fair point, but I'd add that it's what you do with it that's more important
than where it's made.

--
Regards,
Noddy.

 

[Klokmeester]

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"Klokmeester" <whowhere@andwhy.com> wrote in message
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Wearing it like it's clothing, especially when it's cheap Chinese shit
is.

Fair point, but I'd add that it's what you do with it that's more
important than where it's made.

I'm a firm believer that if something should be the last thing that is made
in Australia, it should be the flag. Communists with no respect for human
rights shouldn't be making flags for a country that is opposed to that at
it's most fundamental level.

 

[Jeßus]

Jeßus wrote:

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30200-1310857,00.html

Man Shoots Wife Dead Trying To Install TV

Updated:11:45, Thursday March 27, 2008
A man who tried to use a gun to install a satellite television system
ended up shooting his wife dead by accident.
The correct way to install dish

Ronald Long tried to make a hole in the exterior wall of his house in
Missouri, US, to install the dish for the system.

After several unsuccessful attempts, he got a .22-calibre handgun and
blasted two holes in the wall.

The second bullet hit his wife, Patsy, in the chest, fatally wounding her.

She was standing outside the house at the time, but Long reportedly
thought she was inside.


Officials are now trying to determine whether to file charges against him.

Sheriff's Department spokesman Major Robert Hills said a person involved
in such a case normally would be charged with manslaughter, but that was
up to the prosecutor.

"Once we complete a diagram of the incident, we will be submitting
everything to the prosecuting attorney and let him decide if he wants to
press criminal charges," he said.

Jesus H...
Are there any other topics I can post about that can drag more politics
into the group?

Ironically a post of mine in another group quickly devolved into a gun
control argument - somehow. Fucked if I know how... the subject wasn't
even vaguely mentioned.




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[dmm]

On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 03:12:54 +0800, "Klokmeester" <whowhere@andwhy.com> wrote:

"Noddy" <me@home.com> wrote in message
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"Klokmeester" <whowhere@andwhy.com> wrote in message
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Wearing it like it's clothing, especially when it's cheap Chinese shit
is.

Fair point, but I'd add that it's what you do with it that's more
important than where it's made.


I'm a firm believer that if something should be the last thing that is made
in Australia, it should be the flag. Communists with no respect for human
rights shouldn't be making flags for a country that is opposed to that at
it's most fundamental level.

Let me get this straight Kokmaster. You're of the opinion that nice capitalist businesses
in communist China shouldn't be making flags for us. Never mind the fact that the
money puts food on the plate and provides an improved standard of living for
the poor in such countries, or is that too inconvenient for you?.

 

[Kwyjibo]

"Klokmeester" <whowhere@andwhy.com> wrote in message
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"Klokmeester" <whowhere@andwhy.com> wrote in message
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Wearing it like it's clothing, especially when it's cheap Chinese shit
is.

Fair point, but I'd add that it's what you do with it that's more
important than where it's made.


I'm a firm believer that if something should be the last thing that is
made in Australia, it should be the flag.

Why? What makes the flag any more a symbol of Australia than a pavlova or
lamington (or to keep it on-topic for aus.cars - a ute)?

Communists with no respect for human rights shouldn't be making flags for
a country that is opposed to that at it's most fundamental level.

You seem to be conveniently confusing people for government policy. Are you
really stupid enough to believe that the Chinese *people* have no respect
for human rights?

--
Kwyj.

 

[Klokmeester]

"dmm" <dmmilne_REMOVE_@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
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On Sun, 30 Mar 2008 03:12:54 +0800, "Klokmeester" <whowhere@andwhy.com
wrote:


"Noddy" <me@home.com> wrote in message
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"Klokmeester" <whowhere@andwhy.com> wrote in message
news:13usigd5unqn5a3@corp.supernews.com...

Wearing it like it's clothing, especially when it's cheap Chinese shit
is.

Fair point, but I'd add that it's what you do with it that's more
important than where it's made.


I'm a firm believer that if something should be the last thing that is
made
in Australia, it should be the flag. Communists with no respect for human
rights shouldn't be making flags for a country that is opposed to that at
it's most fundamental level.

Let me get this straight Kokmaster. You're of the opinion that nice
capitalist businesses
in communist China shouldn't be making flags for us.

Correct. They already make everything else, is it too much to ask?
They're shit quality anyway, we can do much better.

Never mind the fact that the

money puts food on the plate and provides an improved standard of living
for
the poor in such countries, or is that too inconvenient for you?.

I don't give a fuck about what goes on in China, this is about cultural
identity and what our flag stands for.

 

[Klokmeester]

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"Klokmeester" <whowhere@andwhy.com> wrote in message
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Wearing it like it's clothing, especially when it's cheap Chinese shit
is.

Fair point, but I'd add that it's what you do with it that's more
important than where it's made.


I'm a firm believer that if something should be the last thing that is
made in Australia, it should be the flag.

Why? What makes the flag any more a symbol of Australia than a pavlova or
lamington (or to keep it on-topic for aus.cars - a ute)?

The flag is what unites all Australians as one (acknowledging that the
Aborinals might have a different take on that) and has done for a bloody
long time.

Communists with no respect for human rights shouldn't be making flags for
a country that is opposed to that at it's most fundamental level.

You seem to be conveniently confusing people for government policy.

Actually no, I'm not.

 

[Kwyjibo]

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"Klokmeester" <whowhere@andwhy.com> wrote in message
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Wearing it like it's clothing, especially when it's cheap Chinese shit
is.

Fair point, but I'd add that it's what you do with it that's more
important than where it's made.


I'm a firm believer that if something should be the last thing that is
made in Australia, it should be the flag.

Why? What makes the flag any more a symbol of Australia than a pavlova or
lamington (or to keep it on-topic for aus.cars - a ute)?

The flag is what unites all Australians as one

Utter crap.
The flag (and associated Union Jack) is one of the issues on which
Australians are most divided.

(acknowledging that the Aborinals might have a different take on that)

Along with the growing number (up to 50% according to some surveys) who want
a new flag........

and has done for a bloody long time.

It's been our flag for a long time. That has no relevance to your bullshit
claim that a bit of cloth 'unites' us.
It never has and never will.

Communists with no respect for human rights shouldn't be making flags
for a country that is opposed to that at it's most fundamental level.

You seem to be conveniently confusing people for government policy.

Actually no, I'm not.

Actually yes, you are.

--
Kwyj.

 

[Noddy]

"Klokmeester" <whowhere@andwhy.com> wrote in message
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Correct. They already make everything else, is it too much to ask?
They're shit quality anyway, we can do much better.

Of course we can, but we can't do it for anywhere near the same money, and
that's what matters to most people. About the only Australian "souvineers"
you'll find anywhere that aren't made in China are those that are so over
priced it's a wonder the few companies that bother to make them here can
stay in business.

--
Regards,
Noddy.

 

[Klokmeester]

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"Klokmeester" <whowhere@andwhy.com> wrote in message
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Wearing it like it's clothing, especially when it's cheap Chinese
shit is.

Fair point, but I'd add that it's what you do with it that's more
important than where it's made.


I'm a firm believer that if something should be the last thing that is
made in Australia, it should be the flag.

Why? What makes the flag any more a symbol of Australia than a pavlova
or lamington (or to keep it on-topic for aus.cars - a ute)?

The flag is what unites all Australians as one

Utter crap.
The flag (and associated Union Jack) is one of the issues on which
Australians are most divided.

What the flag consists of is irrelevant, it is what it symbolises that
counts.

(acknowledging that the Aborinals might have a different take on that)

Along with the growing number (up to 50% according to some surveys) who
want a new flag........

I'm not getting into the flag debate, except to say that whatever the flag
is it represents whatever it means to be an Australian.

and has done for a bloody long time.

It's been our flag for a long time. That has no relevance to your bullshit
claim that a bit of cloth 'unites' us.
It never has and never will.

It's the symbol that identifies all Australians worldwide, it's symbolic of
a way of life, a culture and a country... good or bad.

Communists with no respect for human rights shouldn't be making flags
for a country that is opposed to that at it's most fundamental level.

You seem to be conveniently confusing people for government policy.

Actually no, I'm not.

Actually yes, you are.

Nope.

 

[Kwyjibo]

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"Klokmeester" <whowhere@andwhy.com> wrote in message
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Wearing it like it's clothing, especially when it's cheap Chinese
shit is.

Fair point, but I'd add that it's what you do with it that's more
important than where it's made.


I'm a firm believer that if something should be the last thing that is
made in Australia, it should be the flag.

Why? What makes the flag any more a symbol of Australia than a pavlova
or lamington (or to keep it on-topic for aus.cars - a ute)?

The flag is what unites all Australians as one

Utter crap.
The flag (and associated Union Jack) is one of the issues on which
Australians are most divided.

What the flag consists of is irrelevant, it is what it symbolises that
counts.

So you were incorrect when you said the flag is what unites us.

(acknowledging that the Aborinals might have a different take on that)

Along with the growing number (up to 50% according to some surveys) who
want a new flag........

I'm not getting into the flag debate, except to say that whatever the flag
is it represents whatever it means to be an Australian.

In other words, the flag is irrelevant.

and has done for a bloody long time.

It's been our flag for a long time. That has no relevance to your
bullshit claim that a bit of cloth 'unites' us.
It never has and never will.

It's the symbol that identifies all Australians worldwide, it's symbolic
of a way of life, a culture and a country... good or bad.

WTF are you on about? You claimed *the flag* unites us - Not some fuzzy,
indescript 'symbol' that the flag supposedly represents.

Communists with no respect for human rights shouldn't be making flags
for a country that is opposed to that at it's most fundamental level.

You seem to be conveniently confusing people for government policy.

Actually no, I'm not.

Actually yes, you are.


Nope.

So you think the people working in Chinese factories are communists who have
no respect for human rights?

--
Kwyj.

 

[Klokmeester]

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Wearing it like it's clothing, especially when it's cheap Chinese
shit is.

Fair point, but I'd add that it's what you do with it that's more
important than where it's made.


I'm a firm believer that if something should be the last thing that
is made in Australia, it should be the flag.

Why? What makes the flag any more a symbol of Australia than a pavlova
or lamington (or to keep it on-topic for aus.cars - a ute)?

The flag is what unites all Australians as one

Utter crap.
The flag (and associated Union Jack) is one of the issues on which
Australians are most divided.

What the flag consists of is irrelevant, it is what it symbolises that
counts.

So you were incorrect when you said the flag is what unites us.


(acknowledging that the Aborinals might have a different take on that)

Along with the growing number (up to 50% according to some surveys) who
want a new flag........

I'm not getting into the flag debate, except to say that whatever the
flag is it represents whatever it means to be an Australian.

In other words, the flag is irrelevant.


and has done for a bloody long time.

It's been our flag for a long time. That has no relevance to your
bullshit claim that a bit of cloth 'unites' us.
It never has and never will.

It's the symbol that identifies all Australians worldwide, it's symbolic
of a way of life, a culture and a country... good or bad.

WTF are you on about? You claimed *the flag* unites us - Not some fuzzy,
indescript 'symbol' that the flag supposedly represents.

Communists with no respect for human rights shouldn't be making flags
for a country that is opposed to that at it's most fundamental level.

You seem to be conveniently confusing people for government policy.

Actually no, I'm not.

Actually yes, you are.


Nope.

So you think the people working in Chinese factories are communists who
have no respect for human rights?

Neither of us could know the answer to that on an individual basis, but what
we do know is that their representative communist government has little
respect for human rights. Buying their shit from them and making them richer
isn't likely to cause a shift in their stance on human rights.

 

[Kwyjibo]

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"Klokmeester" <whowhere@andwhy.com> wrote in message
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Wearing it like it's clothing, especially when it's cheap Chinese
shit is.

Fair point, but I'd add that it's what you do with it that's more
important than where it's made.


I'm a firm believer that if something should be the last thing that
is made in Australia, it should be the flag.

Why? What makes the flag any more a symbol of Australia than a
pavlova or lamington (or to keep it on-topic for aus.cars - a ute)?

The flag is what unites all Australians as one

Utter crap.
The flag (and associated Union Jack) is one of the issues on which
Australians are most divided.

What the flag consists of is irrelevant, it is what it symbolises that
counts.

So you were incorrect when you said the flag is what unites us.


(acknowledging that the Aborinals might have a different take on that)

Along with the growing number (up to 50% according to some surveys) who
want a new flag........

I'm not getting into the flag debate, except to say that whatever the
flag is it represents whatever it means to be an Australian.

In other words, the flag is irrelevant.


and has done for a bloody long time.

It's been our flag for a long time. That has no relevance to your
bullshit claim that a bit of cloth 'unites' us.
It never has and never will.

It's the symbol that identifies all Australians worldwide, it's symbolic
of a way of life, a culture and a country... good or bad.

WTF are you on about? You claimed *the flag* unites us - Not some fuzzy,
indescript 'symbol' that the flag supposedly represents.

Communists with no respect for human rights shouldn't be making
flags for a country that is opposed to that at it's most fundamental
level.

You seem to be conveniently confusing people for government policy.

Actually no, I'm not.

Actually yes, you are.


Nope.

So you think the people working in Chinese factories are communists who
have no respect for human rights?


Neither of us could know the answer to that on an individual basis, but
what we do know is that their representative communist government

Their government is not even close to being 'representative'. They don't
vote, remember?

has little respect for human rights. Buying their shit from them and
making them richer isn't likely to cause a shift in their stance on human
rights.

And?
How does that support your earlier idiotic claim that a communist country
shouldn't be making Australian flags?

--
Kwyj.