I love these stories:

[Jeßus]

Noddy wrote:

"Klokmeester" <whowhere@andwhy.com> wrote in message
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Most of the ones doing the waving appear to fit the stereotype though ;-)

Stereotype what? Flag waver?

I think Russ's comments of people who wave the flag having no real sense of
what it is to be Australian were fucking ridiculous, and probably the most
complete load of crap I've read on usenet in the last ten years.

Don't exaggerate now, will ya?
Two words: David Zyk.




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[Russ]

"Noddy" <me@home.com> wrote in message
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"Russ" <russ@nomail.com> wrote in message
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Whenever I see a flag like that, either in someone's front yard or draped
over some yob's shoulders, I just think they've got no clue what it means
to be Australian, rather, to save thinking about it, they've just
imported some sad, empty US version of "patriotism", which in itself is a
questionable ideal (and reality).

What shit What the fuck is wrong with being proud of our flag for
fuck's sake?

I don't go waving it all over the place, but I'm *very* proud of it, and
see nothing wrong with anyone else waving it about if that's *their* way
of showing *their* pride.

That's my point - Australian's have never been about waving it over the
place - it's un-Australian. We don't need to wave a bit of rag about to
prove we love our country - a real Australian takes it for granted. It's
only recently that people have started to imitate the US obsession, and when
they have, it's not really about pride in their country, rather it's been to
differentiate themselves as "real" Australians as opposed to those who don't
wave the flag, in doing so painting them as unworthy of being here.

You don't have to be a backward arsed fucking hick Yank just because
you're proud of your own flag.

True, you don't have to be a stupid, insecure, often violent, racisct
fuckhead to drape the flag over your shoulders, but strangely enough,
they're the ones who do.

 

[Andy]

In article <fsjp8k$653$1@stable.tornevall.net>,
Jeßus <power_sliding@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

these are probably the same idiots who kept their giant plastic red nose
on the grille until the U.V light did it's thing.

Shit, that takes me back.

Whatever happened to those things?

Andy.
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[atec77]

Russ wrote:

"Noddy" <me@home.com> wrote in message
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"Russ" <russ@nomail.com> wrote in message
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Whenever I see a flag like that, either in someone's front yard or draped
over some yob's shoulders, I just think they've got no clue what it means
to be Australian, rather, to save thinking about it, they've just
imported some sad, empty US version of "patriotism", which in itself is a
questionable ideal (and reality).
What shit What the fuck is wrong with being proud of our flag for
fuck's sake?

I don't go waving it all over the place, but I'm *very* proud of it, and
see nothing wrong with anyone else waving it about if that's *their* way
of showing *their* pride.

That's my point - Australian's have never been about waving it over the
place - it's un-Australian. We don't need to wave a bit of rag about to
prove we love our country - a real Australian takes it for granted. It's
only recently that people have started to imitate the US obsession, and when
they have, it's not really about pride in their country, rather it's been to
differentiate themselves as "real" Australians as opposed to those who don't
wave the flag, in doing so painting them as unworthy of being here.

You don't have to be a backward arsed fucking hick Yank just because
you're proud of your own flag.

True, you don't have to be a stupid, insecure, often violent, racisct
fuckhead to drape the flag over your shoulders, but strangely enough,
they're the ones who do.



How about the motivation of many blacks who wear the Aboriginal flag as

a mantle ?

 

[Jeßus]

atec77 wrote:

Russ wrote:
"Noddy" <me@home.com> wrote in message
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"Russ" <russ@nomail.com> wrote in message
news:47ecfa59$0$13097$c30e37c6@pit-reader.telstra.net...

Whenever I see a flag like that, either in someone's front yard or
draped over some yob's shoulders, I just think they've got no clue
what it means to be Australian, rather, to save thinking about it,
they've just imported some sad, empty US version of "patriotism",
which in itself is a questionable ideal (and reality).
What shit What the fuck is wrong with being proud of our flag for
fuck's sake?

I don't go waving it all over the place, but I'm *very* proud of it,
and see nothing wrong with anyone else waving it about if that's
*their* way of showing *their* pride.

That's my point - Australian's have never been about waving it over
the place - it's un-Australian. We don't need to wave a bit of rag
about to prove we love our country - a real Australian takes it for
granted. It's only recently that people have started to imitate the US
obsession, and when they have, it's not really about pride in their
country, rather it's been to differentiate themselves as "real"
Australians as opposed to those who don't wave the flag, in doing so
painting them as unworthy of being here.

You don't have to be a backward arsed fucking hick Yank just because
you're proud of your own flag.

True, you don't have to be a stupid, insecure, often violent, racisct
fuckhead to drape the flag over your shoulders, but strangely enough,
they're the ones who do.



How about the motivation of many blacks who wear the Aboriginal flag as
a mantle ?

LOL, Barry you're a sad, sad fucker.


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[Jeßus]

Russ wrote:

"Noddy" <me@home.com> wrote in message
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"Russ" <russ@nomail.com> wrote in message
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Whenever I see a flag like that, either in someone's front yard or draped
over some yob's shoulders, I just think they've got no clue what it means
to be Australian, rather, to save thinking about it, they've just
imported some sad, empty US version of "patriotism", which in itself is a
questionable ideal (and reality).
What shit What the fuck is wrong with being proud of our flag for
fuck's sake?

I don't go waving it all over the place, but I'm *very* proud of it, and
see nothing wrong with anyone else waving it about if that's *their* way
of showing *their* pride.

That's my point - Australian's have never been about waving it over the
place - it's un-Australian. We don't need to wave a bit of rag about to
prove we love our country - a real Australian takes it for granted. It's
only recently that people have started to imitate the US obsession, and when
they have, it's not really about pride in their country, rather it's been to
differentiate themselves as "real" Australians as opposed to those who don't
wave the flag, in doing so painting them as unworthy of being here.

You don't have to be a backward arsed fucking hick Yank just because
you're proud of your own flag.

True, you don't have to be a stupid, insecure, often violent, racisct
fuckhead to drape the flag over your shoulders, but strangely enough,
they're the ones who do.

Nicely put.

I love how quickly all the topics go off on tangents in this group


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[Jeßus]

Andy wrote:

In article <fsjp8k$653$1@stable.tornevall.net>,
Jeßus <power_sliding@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

these are probably the same idiots who kept their giant plastic red nose
on the grille until the U.V light did it's thing.

Shit, that takes me back.

Whatever happened to those things?

Andy.

They're all dead now?
I'd say its just a case of everyone got compassion fatigue for this
particular cause and moved onto other more fashionable causes.

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[Russ]

"atec77" <atec77NOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Russ wrote:
"Noddy" <me@home.com> wrote in message
news:47ecfe44$0$74072$c30e37c6@lon-reader.news.telstra.net...
"Russ" <russ@nomail.com> wrote in message
news:47ecfa59$0$13097$c30e37c6@pit-reader.telstra.net...

Whenever I see a flag like that, either in someone's front yard or
draped over some yob's shoulders, I just think they've got no clue what
it means to be Australian, rather, to save thinking about it, they've
just imported some sad, empty US version of "patriotism", which in
itself is a questionable ideal (and reality).
What shit What the fuck is wrong with being proud of our flag for
fuck's sake?

I don't go waving it all over the place, but I'm *very* proud of it, and
see nothing wrong with anyone else waving it about if that's *their* way
of showing *their* pride.

That's my point - Australian's have never been about waving it over the
place - it's un-Australian. We don't need to wave a bit of rag about to
prove we love our country - a real Australian takes it for granted. It's
only recently that people have started to imitate the US obsession, and
when they have, it's not really about pride in their country, rather it's
been to differentiate themselves as "real" Australians as opposed to
those who don't wave the flag, in doing so painting them as unworthy of
being here.

You don't have to be a backward arsed fucking hick Yank just because
you're proud of your own flag.

True, you don't have to be a stupid, insecure, often violent, racisct
fuckhead to drape the flag over your shoulders, but strangely enough,
they're the ones who do.



How about the motivation of many blacks who wear the Aboriginal flag as a
mantle ?

They're struggling to establish a sense of cultural identity and use the
flag as a symbol. The difference is that ordinary Australians don't have
that problem - we have a very strong, inherent sense of being Australian. We
don't feel the need to prove it to anyone and we probably couldn't tell
anyone what it is to be Australian, but we know it. Unfortunately indigenous
Australians haven't reached that point.

 

[Noddy]

"Jeßus" <power_sliding@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:fsjphb$653$3@stable.tornevall.net...

They sure do, and if you were to get into a convo with them, eventually
you'd discover just how redneck they really are...

You've obviously conducted surveys and studied this very closely

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Noddy.

 

[Noddy]

"Jeßus" <power_sliding@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:fsjt9s$agj$3@stable.tornevall.net...

Don't exaggerate now, will ya?

I generally don't, and I was being serious.

The comment was one of the most elitist pieces of wank crap I've read in
ages.

Two words: David Zyk.

David has an excuse: He's a fucking imbecile.

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Noddy.

 

[Fun Tyme]

Russ wrote:

"atec77" <atec77NOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:fsk1he$rc8$2@aioe.org...
Russ wrote:
"Noddy" <me@home.com> wrote in message
news:47ecfe44$0$74072$c30e37c6@lon-reader.news.telstra.net...
"Russ" <russ@nomail.com> wrote in message
news:47ecfa59$0$13097$c30e37c6@pit-reader.telstra.net...

Whenever I see a flag like that, either in someone's front yard or
draped over some yob's shoulders, I just think they've got no clue what
it means to be Australian, rather, to save thinking about it, they've
just imported some sad, empty US version of "patriotism", which in
itself is a questionable ideal (and reality).
What shit What the fuck is wrong with being proud of our flag for
fuck's sake?

I don't go waving it all over the place, but I'm *very* proud of it, and
see nothing wrong with anyone else waving it about if that's *their* way
of showing *their* pride.
That's my point - Australian's have never been about waving it over the
place - it's un-Australian. We don't need to wave a bit of rag about to
prove we love our country - a real Australian takes it for granted. It's
only recently that people have started to imitate the US obsession, and
when they have, it's not really about pride in their country, rather it's
been to differentiate themselves as "real" Australians as opposed to
those who don't wave the flag, in doing so painting them as unworthy of
being here.

You don't have to be a backward arsed fucking hick Yank just because
you're proud of your own flag.
True, you don't have to be a stupid, insecure, often violent, racisct
fuckhead to drape the flag over your shoulders, but strangely enough,
they're the ones who do.



How about the motivation of many blacks who wear the Aboriginal flag as a
mantle ?

They're struggling to establish a sense of cultural identity and use the
flag as a symbol. The difference is that ordinary Australians don't have
that problem - we have a very strong, inherent sense of being Australian. We
don't feel the need to prove it to anyone and we probably couldn't tell
anyone what it is to be Australian, but we know it. Unfortunately indigenous
Australians haven't reached that point.

Russ - telling the truth of the situation.

The difference with your statements is the fact that you have actually
thought about cultural identity instead of being a sheep. I generally
don't agree with people on this subject, please run this country.

 

[Noddy]

"Russ" <russ@nomail.com> wrote in message
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True, you don't have to be a stupid, insecure, often violent, racisct
fuckhead to drape the flag over your shoulders, but strangely enough,
they're the ones who do.

How do you *know* this?

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Noddy.

 

[Klokmeester]

"Noddy" <me@home.com> wrote in message
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"Klokmeester" <whowhere@andwhy.com> wrote in message
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Most of the ones doing the waving appear to fit the stereotype though ;-)

Stereotype what? Flag waver?

No, the American stereotype. (Ignorant redneck jackass)

I think Russ's comments of people who wave the flag having no real sense
of what it is to be Australian were fucking ridiculous, and probably the
most complete load of crap I've read on usenet in the last ten years.

That overpatriotic nonsense and Chinese made flag waving is not the
Australian way, it reeks of Americansation and is shortchanging our own
cultural identity. The Australian way is to not overstate what is already
understood.

That's the way I see it anyway.

 

[Klokmeester]

"Russ" <russ@nomail.com> wrote in message
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"Noddy" <me@home.com> wrote in message
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"Russ" <russ@nomail.com> wrote in message
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Whenever I see a flag like that, either in someone's front yard or
draped over some yob's shoulders, I just think they've got no clue what
it means to be Australian, rather, to save thinking about it, they've
just imported some sad, empty US version of "patriotism", which in
itself is a questionable ideal (and reality).

What shit What the fuck is wrong with being proud of our flag for
fuck's sake?

I don't go waving it all over the place, but I'm *very* proud of it, and
see nothing wrong with anyone else waving it about if that's *their* way
of showing *their* pride.

That's my point - Australian's have never been about waving it over the
place - it's un-Australian. We don't need to wave a bit of rag about to
prove we love our country - a real Australian takes it for granted. It's
only recently that people have started to imitate the US obsession, and
when they have, it's not really about pride in their country, rather it's
been to differentiate themselves as "real" Australians as opposed to those
who don't wave the flag, in doing so painting them as unworthy of being
here.

You don't have to be a backward arsed fucking hick Yank just because
you're proud of your own flag.

True, you don't have to be a stupid, insecure, often violent, racisct
fuckhead to drape the flag over your shoulders, but strangely enough,
they're the ones who do.

Bingo Russ, right on the mark.

 

[Klokmeester]

"Noddy" <me@home.com> wrote in message
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"Russ" <russ@nomail.com> wrote in message
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True, you don't have to be a stupid, insecure, often violent, racisct
fuckhead to drape the flag over your shoulders, but strangely enough,
they're the ones who do.

How do you *know* this?

FFS Noddy, open your eyes and ears.

 

[Noddy]

"Klokmeester" <whowhere@andwhy.com> wrote in message
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FFS Noddy, open your eyes and ears.

Thanks Clock, but unlike you and a few others I'm not willing to assume that
all flag wavers are tarred with the same brush just because one or two might
be idiots.

It's just like assuming that all truck drivers are idiots and all 4wd owners
are arseholes.

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[Noddy]

"Klokmeester" <whowhere@andwhy.com> wrote in message
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Bingo Russ, right on the mark.

Jesus

You blokes need to let go of your wangs for a few minutes so a bit of blood
can get through to the end

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Noddy.

 

[Jeßus]

Noddy wrote:

"Jeßus" <power_sliding@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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They sure do, and if you were to get into a convo with them, eventually
you'd discover just how redneck they really are...

You've obviously conducted surveys and studied this very closely

Oh, its all scientifically proven of course!


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[Jeßus]

Noddy wrote:

"Jeßus" <power_sliding@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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Don't exaggerate now, will ya?

I generally don't, and I was being serious.

The comment was one of the most elitist pieces of wank crap I've read in
ages.

? You totally lost me there, but better to leave it at that I think.

Two words: David Zyk.

David has an excuse: He's a fucking imbecile.

Now you're ragging on the imbeciles...


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[Noddy]

"Jeßus" <power_sliding@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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Oh, its all scientifically proven of course!

Yeah, I thought so.

Ignorance is a fantastic tool, huh?

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Noddy.