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The new TV came without a line switch. Couple of bucks and fiveEeyore wrote:
MisterE wrote:
The only thing crazy is your low bill!
You must be an American.
I would guess most people are at
least 3 times that much. Though I remember a british study that said 10th of
all home power is being used by standby, and it was enough for them to start
banning devices from having a standby mode, effecitvely eliminating 'soft
power' switches.
Pure TRIPE. No such ban exists. Get all your info from frothing-at-the-mouth
journos do you ? There are however IEC guidelines for standy operation power
consumption and they're hoping to get it down to ONE watt IIRC in new products.
When I measured my set-top-cable-box I did however notice that it measured 17W
in active OR 'standy mode'. Now that's inexcusable (Samsung btw and supplied by
the cable co so no choice in the matter).
And I nearly forgot to say, no 'hard' power switch either, so unplugging is the
only way to stop the energy waste.
Graham
Because yanks get their energy at such low prices that they are morebeal...@gmail.com wrote:
Eeyore wrote:
Eeyore wrote:
MisterE wrote:
The only thing crazy is your low bill!
You must be an American.
I would guess most people are at
least 3 times that much. Though I remember a british study that said 10th of
all home power is being used by standby, and it was enough for them to start
banning devices from having a standby mode, effecitvely eliminating 'soft
power' switches.
Pure TRIPE. No such ban exists. Get all your info from frothing-at-the-mouth
journos do you ? There are however IEC guidelines for standy operation power
consumption and they're hoping to get it down to ONE watt IIRC in new products.
When I measured my set-top-cable-box I did however notice that it measured 17W
in active OR 'standy mode'. Now that's inexcusable (Samsung btw and supplied by
the cable co so no choice in the matter).
And I nearly forgot to say, no 'hard' power switch either, so unplugging is the
only way to stop the energy waste.
The new TV came without a line switch. Couple of bucks and five
minutes and good-by stand by.
The MANUFACTURER should fit one. In this day and age such power hogs are INEXCUSABLE.
My 21" Super-res CRT SONY PC monitor only consumes 3W in standby for example. Why
should TVs be worse ?
Graham
No power switch on the wall socket? Best option, buy a switched power boardAnd I nearly forgot to say, no 'hard' power switch either, so unplugging
is the
only way to stop the energy waste.
3W is huge. My Sony S series LCD TV takes 0.2W in standby.bealiba@gmail.com wrote:
Eeyore wrote:
Eeyore wrote:
MisterE wrote:
The only thing crazy is your low bill!
You must be an American.
I would guess most people are at
least 3 times that much. Though I remember a british study that
said 10th of
all home power is being used by standby, and it was enough for them
to start
banning devices from having a standby mode, effecitvely eliminating
'soft
power' switches.
Pure TRIPE. No such ban exists. Get all your info from
frothing-at-the-mouth
journos do you ? There are however IEC guidelines for standy
operation power
consumption and they're hoping to get it down to ONE watt IIRC in new
products.
When I measured my set-top-cable-box I did however notice that it
measured 17W
in active OR 'standy mode'. Now that's inexcusable (Samsung btw and
supplied by
the cable co so no choice in the matter).
And I nearly forgot to say, no 'hard' power switch either, so
unplugging is the
only way to stop the energy waste.
The new TV came without a line switch. Couple of bucks and five
minutes and good-by stand by.
The MANUFACTURER should fit one. In this day and age such power hogs are
INEXCUSABLE.
My 21" Super-res CRT SONY PC monitor only consumes 3W in standby for
example. Why
should TVs be worse ?
It's not always conventionent to scrabble round on the floor underneat things"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote
And I nearly forgot to say, no 'hard' power switch either, so unplugging
is the only way to stop the energy waste.
No power switch on the wall socket? Best option, buy a switched power board
then.
3W was state of the art for when it was manufactured. I'm certainly not going to"Eeyore" wrote
My 21" Super-res CRT SONY PC monitor only consumes 3W in standby for
example. Why should TVs be worse ?
3W is huge. My Sony S series LCD TV takes 0.2W in standby.
Are you playing some sort of word game here?"Mr.T" wrote:
"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote
And I nearly forgot to say, no 'hard' power switch either, so
unplugging
is the only way to stop the energy waste.
No power switch on the wall socket? Best option, buy a switched power
board
then.
It's not always conventionent to scrabble round on the floor underneat
things
is it ?
THINK !
Graham
You might take your own advice. Try Googling "extension cord"."Mr.T" wrote:
"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote
And I nearly forgot to say, no 'hard' power switch either, so unplugging
is the only way to stop the energy waste.
No power switch on the wall socket? Best option, buy a switched power board
then.
It's not always conventionent to scrabble round on the floor underneat things
is it ?
THINK !
It's already on one ! And I can't say I've ever seen swiched outlet extensions inEeyore wrote:
"Mr.T" wrote:
"Eeyore" wrote
And I nearly forgot to say, no 'hard' power switch either, so unplugging
is the only way to stop the energy waste.
No power switch on the wall socket? Best option, buy a switched power board
then.
It's not always conventionent to scrabble round on the floor underneat things
is it ?
THINK !
You might take your own advice. Try Googling "extension cord".
If you'd gone back in the hierarchy at that page and chosen "switched"wmbjkREMOVE@citlink.net wrote:
Eeyore wrote:
"Mr.T" wrote:
"Eeyore" wrote
And I nearly forgot to say, no 'hard' power switch either, so unplugging
is the only way to stop the energy waste.
No power switch on the wall socket? Best option, buy a switched power board
then.
It's not always conventionent to scrabble round on the floor underneat things
is it ?
THINK !
You might take your own advice. Try Googling "extension cord".
It's already on one ! And I can't say I've ever seen swiched outlet extensions in
the shops either. Here's a typical one.
http://www.chsinteractive.co.uk/electrical-components/electrical-accessories/mains-trailing-sockets-13amp/trailing-sockets-unswitched/4-gang-13amp-mains-extension-trailing-socket-neon-indicator-unswitched-white-length-2m.htm
And this is your justication for Samsung NOT fitting a power switch that actually DOES SOMETHING.Eeyore wrote:
wmbjkREMOVE@citlink.net wrote:
Eeyore wrote:
"Mr.T" wrote:
"Eeyore" wrote
And I nearly forgot to say, no 'hard' power switch either, so unplugging
is the only way to stop the energy waste.
No power switch on the wall socket? Best option, buy a switched power board
then.
It's not always conventionent to scrabble round on the floor underneat things
is it ?
THINK !
You might take your own advice. Try Googling "extension cord".
It's already on one ! And I can't say I've ever seen swiched outlet extensions in
the shops either. Here's a typical one.
http://www.chsinteractive.co.uk/electrical-components/electrical-accessories/mains-trailing-sockets-13amp/trailing-sockets-unswitched/4-gang-13amp-mains-extension-trailing-socket-neon-indicator-unswitched-white-length-2m.htm
If you'd gone back in the hierarchy at that page and chosen "switched"
instead of "unswitched", you'd have gotten here
http://www.chsinteractive.co.uk/electrical-components/electrical-accessories/mains-trailing-sockets-13amp/trailing-sockets-switched.html.
It's hard to imagine that anybody would write multiple posts to
advertise that level of helplessness, but you're actually the second
I've seen. Last time it was Gymmy Bob (aka John P Benji, Solar Fart,
etc.) complaining about having to crawl under his desk to read a
KillaWatt. Congrats.
Ditto the satellite boxes, and if you unplug you have a wait time forEeyore wrote:
MisterE wrote:
The only thing crazy is your low bill!
You must be an American.
I would guess most people are at
least 3 times that much. Though I remember a british study that said 10th of
all home power is being used by standby, and it was enough for them to start
banning devices from having a standby mode, effecitvely eliminating 'soft
power' switches.
Pure TRIPE. No such ban exists. Get all your info from frothing-at-the-mouth
journos do you ? There are however IEC guidelines for standy operation power
consumption and they're hoping to get it down to ONE watt IIRC in new products.
When I measured my set-top-cable-box I did however notice that it measured 17W
in active OR 'standy mode'. Now that's inexcusable (Samsung btw and supplied by
the cable co so no choice in the matter).
And I nearly forgot to say, no 'hard' power switch either, so unplugging is the
only way to stop the energy waste.
Graham
Don't blame us yanks if we can't shit....bealiba@gmail.com wrote:
On Jun 9, 9:22 am, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...@hotmail.com
wrote:
beal...@gmail.com wrote:
Eeyore wrote:
Eeyore wrote:
MisterE wrote:
The only thing crazy is your low bill!
You must be an American.
I would guess most people are at
least 3 times that much. Though I remember a british study that said 10th of
all home power is being used by standby, and it was enough for them to start
banning devices from having a standby mode, effecitvely eliminating 'soft
power' switches.
Pure TRIPE. No such ban exists. Get all your info from frothing-at-the-mouth
journos do you ? There are however IEC guidelines for standy operation power
consumption and they're hoping to get it down to ONE watt IIRC in new products.
When I measured my set-top-cable-box I did however notice that it measured 17W
in active OR 'standy mode'. Now that's inexcusable (Samsung btw and supplied by
the cable co so no choice in the matter).
And I nearly forgot to say, no 'hard' power switch either, so unplugging is the
only way to stop the energy waste.
The new TV came without a line switch. Couple of bucks and five
minutes and good-by stand by.
The MANUFACTURER should fit one. In this day and age such power hogs are > INEXCUSABLE.
My 21" Super-res CRT SONY PC monitor only consumes 3W in standby for example. Why
should TVs be worse ?
Because yanks get their energy at such low prices that they are more
worried about appearances than energy saving. After all If they need
more of anything they just go somewhere and take it.
And yes, the MANUFACTURER should fit one. But it won't happen if the
consumer does not make a point of asking for it.
I agree.
I also agree that Americans are to blame for most of what's wrong with the world too.
Graham
It's inexcusably bad design IMHO and I speak as an electronics designer of someEeyore wrote:
Eeyore wrote:
MisterE wrote:
The only thing crazy is your low bill!
You must be an American.
I would guess most people are at
least 3 times that much. Though I remember a british study that said 10th of
all home power is being used by standby, and it was enough for them to start
banning devices from having a standby mode, effecitvely eliminating 'soft
power' switches.
Pure TRIPE. No such ban exists. Get all your info from frothing-at-the-mouth
journos do you ? There are however IEC guidelines for standy operation power
consumption and they're hoping to get it down to ONE watt IIRC in new products.
When I measured my set-top-cable-box I did however notice that it measured 17W
in active OR 'standy mode'. Now that's inexcusable (Samsung btw and supplied by
the cable co so no choice in the matter).
And I nearly forgot to say, no 'hard' power switch either, so unplugging is the
only way to stop the energy waste.
Ditto the satellite boxes, and if you unplug you have a wait time for
signal re-acquisition that is several long minutes.
You have my sympathies FWIW. OTOH they do say you get what you deserve.Eeyore wrote:
bealiba@gmail.com wrote:
Eeyore wrote:
beal...@gmail.com wrote:
Eeyore wrote:
Eeyore wrote:
MisterE wrote:
The only thing crazy is your low bill!
You must be an American.
I would guess most people are at
least 3 times that much. Though I remember a british study that said 10th of
all home power is being used by standby, and it was enough for them to start
banning devices from having a standby mode, effecitvely eliminating 'soft
power' switches.
Pure TRIPE. No such ban exists. Get all your info from frothing-at-the-mouth
journos do you ? There are however IEC guidelines for standy operation power
consumption and they're hoping to get it down to ONE watt IIRC in new products.
When I measured my set-top-cable-box I did however notice that it measured 17W
in active OR 'standy mode'. Now that's inexcusable (Samsung btw and supplied by
the cable co so no choice in the matter).
And I nearly forgot to say, no 'hard' power switch either, so unplugging is the
only way to stop the energy waste.
The new TV came without a line switch. Couple of bucks and five
minutes and good-by stand by.
The MANUFACTURER should fit one. In this day and age such power hogs are > INEXCUSABLE.
My 21" Super-res CRT SONY PC monitor only consumes 3W in standby for example. Why
should TVs be worse ?
Because yanks get their energy at such low prices that they are more
worried about appearances than energy saving. After all If they need
more of anything they just go somewhere and take it.
And yes, the MANUFACTURER should fit one. But it won't happen if the
consumer does not make a point of asking for it.
I agree.
I also agree that Americans are to blame for most of what's wrong with the world too.
Don't blame us yanks if we can't shit....
Our asshole's in Washington.
And the power board HAS to be placed "on the floor underneat things", WHYAnd I nearly forgot to say, no 'hard' power switch either, so
unplugging
is the only way to stop the energy waste.
No power switch on the wall socket? Best option, buy a switched power
board
then.
It's not always conventionent to scrabble round on the floor underneat
things
is it ?
Because YOU can't?THINK !
Try a better shop then.And I can't say I've ever seen swiched outlet extensions in
the shops either.
I do NOT wish to crawl under the furniutre every time I want to watch TV.
I have limits.
Only half the population gets what they deserve (sometimes less), the restOur asshole's in Washington.
You have my sympathies FWIW. OTOH they do say you get what you deserve.
You want people tripping over it and injuring themselves ?And the power board HAS to be placed "on the floor underneath things", WHY
exactly? (mine isn't)