home battery

[John Larkin]

On Mon, 16 Feb 2015 14:28:30 +1100, Sylvia Else
<sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote:

On 16/02/2015 12:32 PM, Bill Sloman wrote:

No sane person needs any kind of muscle car. Transportation is there
to get you from A to B. Muscle cars shave seconds off journey times,
but are much more expensive to insure because the consequences of a
moment's inattention can be more dramatic when there's more power
available.


Actually, I think it's because those who desire to own muscle cars are
the kind of people most likely to wrap vehicles round any available
obstacle, though the insurers will simply go by the statistics.

Sylvia.

I needed a car that would work in the city (small, able to climb steep
hills) and 4WD for driving in the mountains in snow, to cruise past
the chain controls. I didn't want an SUV or one of those klunky Subaru
things. But it is a kick to drive. The trick about driving hard is to
only do it when it's clearly safe.

Audi has ruined the new A3, turned it into a boring little sedan with
the wussy 2L turbo. I don't understand why anybody would buy a car
that's not a hatchback.

 

[Bill Bowden]

"Sylvia Else" <sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote in message
news:ckd6evFt255U2@mid.individual.net...

On 16/02/2015 12:32 PM, Bill Sloman wrote:

No sane person needs any kind of muscle car. Transportation is there
to get you from A to B. Muscle cars shave seconds off journey times,
but are much more expensive to insure because the consequences of a
moment's inattention can be more dramatic when there's more power
available.


Actually, I think it's because those who desire to own muscle cars are the
kind of people most likely to wrap vehicles round any available obstacle,
though the insurers will simply go by the statistics.

Sylvia.

My neighbor has a red Ferrari but hardy ever drives it. He spends most of
his time polishing it. And when he drives it a few miles, he needs to remove
all the wheels to clean the dust off the disc brakes when he gets home.





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[John Larkin]

On Sun, 15 Feb 2015 20:38:34 -0800, "Bill Bowden"
<bperryb@bowdenshobbycircuits.info> wrote:

"Sylvia Else" <sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote in message
news:ckd6evFt255U2@mid.individual.net...
On 16/02/2015 12:32 PM, Bill Sloman wrote:

No sane person needs any kind of muscle car. Transportation is there
to get you from A to B. Muscle cars shave seconds off journey times,
but are much more expensive to insure because the consequences of a
moment's inattention can be more dramatic when there's more power
available.


Actually, I think it's because those who desire to own muscle cars are the
kind of people most likely to wrap vehicles round any available obstacle,
though the insurers will simply go by the statistics.

Sylvia.

My neighbor has a red Ferrari but hardy ever drives it. He spends most of
his time polishing it. And when he drives it a few miles, he needs to remove
all the wheels to clean the dust off the disc brakes when he gets home.

I wash the windows on my car. It improves visibility.

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Monday, 16 February 2015 16:58:56 UTC+11, Sylvia Else wrote:

On 16/02/2015 3:38 PM, Bill Bowden wrote:
"Sylvia Else" <sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote in message
news:ckd6evFt255U2@mid.individual.net...
On 16/02/2015 12:32 PM, Bill Sloman wrote:

No sane person needs any kind of muscle car. Transportation is there
to get you from A to B. Muscle cars shave seconds off journey times,
but are much more expensive to insure because the consequences of a
moment's inattention can be more dramatic when there's more power
available.


Actually, I think it's because those who desire to own muscle cars are the
kind of people most likely to wrap vehicles round any available obstacle,
though the insurers will simply go by the statistics.

Sylvia.

My neighbor has a red Ferrari but hardy ever drives it. He spends most of
his time polishing it. And when he drives it a few miles, he needs to remove
all the wheels to clean the dust off the disc brakes when he gets home.


His insurer is probably laughing all the way to the bank. There are
always outliers with statistics. Indeed, if they're absent, one has to
suspect that the data has been fudged.

Perhaps not. "Hardly ever drives it" isn't a good way of getting used to the superior acceleration offered by most Ferraris.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Monday, 16 February 2015 15:48:00 UTC+11, John Larkin wrote:

On Sun, 15 Feb 2015 20:38:34 -0800, "Bill Bowden"
bperryb@bowdenshobbycircuits.info> wrote:


"Sylvia Else" <sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote in message
news:ckd6evFt255U2@mid.individual.net...
On 16/02/2015 12:32 PM, Bill Sloman wrote:

No sane person needs any kind of muscle car. Transportation is there
to get you from A to B. Muscle cars shave seconds off journey times,
but are much more expensive to insure because the consequences of a
moment's inattention can be more dramatic when there's more power
available.


Actually, I think it's because those who desire to own muscle cars are the
kind of people most likely to wrap vehicles round any available obstacle,
though the insurers will simply go by the statistics.

Sylvia.

My neighbor has a red Ferrari but hardy ever drives it. He spends most of
his time polishing it. And when he drives it a few miles, he needs to remove
all the wheels to clean the dust off the disc brakes when he gets home.


I wash the windows on my car. It improves visibility.

Most cars have window-washing systems built in. You do have to remember to fill them up with water and a bit of detergent/anti-freeze from time to time.

Getting rid of encrusted insects in summer sometimes took hand-work with a methylated-spirits-soaked paper pad, but not very often.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Monday, 16 February 2015 15:38:43 UTC+11, Bill Bowden wrote:

"Sylvia Else" <sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote in message
news:ckd6evFt255U2@mid.individual.net...
On 16/02/2015 12:32 PM, Bill Sloman wrote:

No sane person needs any kind of muscle car. Transportation is there
to get you from A to B. Muscle cars shave seconds off journey times,
but are much more expensive to insure because the consequences of a
moment's inattention can be more dramatic when there's more power
available.


Actually, I think it's because those who desire to own muscle cars are the
kind of people most likely to wrap vehicles round any available obstacle,
though the insurers will simply go by the statistics.

Sylvia.

My neighbor has a red Ferrari but hardy ever drives it. He spends most of
his time polishing it. And when he drives it a few miles, he needs to remove
all the wheels to clean the dust off the disc brakes when he gets home.

That's not a car, but an item of personal decoration - essentially jewellery, but larger than most examples.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Monday, 16 February 2015 18:37:50 UTC+11, Sylvia Else wrote:

On 16/02/2015 6:31 PM, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Monday, 16 February 2015 15:38:43 UTC+11, Bill Bowden wrote:
"Sylvia Else" <sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote in message
news:ckd6evFt255U2@mid.individual.net...
On 16/02/2015 12:32 PM, Bill Sloman wrote:

No sane person needs any kind of muscle car. Transportation is there
to get you from A to B. Muscle cars shave seconds off journey times,
but are much more expensive to insure because the consequences of a
moment's inattention can be more dramatic when there's more power
available.


Actually, I think it's because those who desire to own muscle cars are the
kind of people most likely to wrap vehicles round any available obstacle,
though the insurers will simply go by the statistics.

Sylvia.

My neighbor has a red Ferrari but hardy ever drives it. He spends most of
his time polishing it. And when he drives it a few miles, he needs to remove
all the wheels to clean the dust off the disc brakes when he gets home.

That's not a car, but an item of personal decoration - essentially jewellery, but larger than most examples.


A bit like peacock tail feathers - no purpose other than attracting
females, and a liability when it comes to survival.

Genetic survival does involve attracting females. Evolution does suggest that male peacocks tail is a necessary - if expensive - investment, and evolutionary biologists argue that such displays have to be genuinely expensive to be genuinely convincing.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Sylvia Else]

On 16/02/2015 6:31 PM, Bill Sloman wrote:

On Monday, 16 February 2015 15:38:43 UTC+11, Bill Bowden wrote:
"Sylvia Else" <sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote in message
news:ckd6evFt255U2@mid.individual.net...
On 16/02/2015 12:32 PM, Bill Sloman wrote:

No sane person needs any kind of muscle car. Transportation is there
to get you from A to B. Muscle cars shave seconds off journey times,
but are much more expensive to insure because the consequences of a
moment's inattention can be more dramatic when there's more power
available.


Actually, I think it's because those who desire to own muscle cars are the
kind of people most likely to wrap vehicles round any available obstacle,
though the insurers will simply go by the statistics.

Sylvia.

My neighbor has a red Ferrari but hardy ever drives it. He spends most of
his time polishing it. And when he drives it a few miles, he needs to remove
all the wheels to clean the dust off the disc brakes when he gets home.

That's not a car, but an item of personal decoration - essentially jewellery, but larger than most examples.

A bit like peacock tail feathers - no purpose other than attracting
females, and a liability when it comes to survival.

Sylvia.

 

[Jan Panteltje]

On a sunny day (Sun, 15 Feb 2015 14:20:21 -0800) it happened John Larkin
<jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in
<ec62eatip8n89hm0ueb3i48uhp3a9ilan0@4ax.com>:

On Fri, 13 Feb 2015 10:34:03 -0800, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

There's a beautiful Tesla charging station in the parking lot of the
Safeway in Truckee. I've never seen a car charging there. Shoppers
park their gasoline cars in the charging slots when things are busy.

We just made a Safeway run, and I had a camera handy.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/53724080/Truckee/Tesla_0.jpg

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/53724080/Truckee/Tesla_1.jpg

You gotta give it to Musk, he _is_ an optimist

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/53724080/Truckee/Tesla_2.jpg

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/53724080/Truckee/Tesla_3.jpg

Connector looks like a face of some alien with eyes...

Actually I gave up on Musk when I did see his presentation of the spacecraft
module with glass cockpit.
Just imaginge that thing cracks, you have not a single instrument left.

 

On Monday, February 16, 2015 at 9:20:00 AM UTC-8, John Larkin wrote:

On Mon, 16 Feb 2015 16:58:48 +1100, Sylvia Else
sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote:

On 16/02/2015 3:38 PM, Bill Bowden wrote:
"Sylvia Else" <sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote in message
news:ckd6evFt255U2@mid.individual.net...
On 16/02/2015 12:32 PM, Bill Sloman wrote:

No sane person needs any kind of muscle car. Transportation is there
to get you from A to B. Muscle cars shave seconds off journey times,
but are much more expensive to insure because the consequences of a
moment's inattention can be more dramatic when there's more power
available.


Actually, I think it's because those who desire to own muscle cars are the
kind of people most likely to wrap vehicles round any available obstacle,
though the insurers will simply go by the statistics.

Sylvia.

My neighbor has a red Ferrari but hardy ever drives it. He spends most of
his time polishing it. And when he drives it a few miles, he needs to remove
all the wheels to clean the dust off the disc brakes when he gets home.


His insurer is probably laughing all the way to the bank. There are
always outliers with statistics. Indeed, if they're absent, one has to
suspect that the data has been fudged.

Sylvia.

Some people with supercars buy insurance by the day.

I don't have supercar, just minivan. I will be paying by the mile, starting next month. I got the metromile ODB dongle with GPS tracking. $20+ per month plus 2+ cents per mile.

 

[Cydrome Leader]

Martin Brown <|||newspam|||@nezumi.demon.co.uk> wrote:

On 13/02/2015 04:51, John Larkin wrote:
On Thu, 12 Feb 2015 19:51:25 -0800, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com
wrote:

On Thu, 12 Feb 2015 19:11:46 -0800, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/02/12/musk_to_unveil_home_storage_battery/

The article doesn't offer any clues as to the technology offered. My
wild guess(tm) is that it's something like this water based organic
battery:
https://news.usc.edu/64612/usc-scientists-plug-in-to-a-new-battery-thats-cheap-clean-rechargeable-and-organic/

It's probably going to use Musk's lithium ion batteries.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/uciliawang/2013/11/05/tesla-considers-building-the-worlds-biggest-lithium-ion-battery-factory/

http://www.nbcnews.com/tech/innovation/elon-musk-wants-tesla-batteries-power-homes-n305071

I suspect that most of the Musk ventures will eventually crash. The

I think you could well be right. Home batteries are going to have to be
incredibly reliable to be worth having. We have had a couple of ex RAF
NiFe 200 Ah blocks that were WWII war surplus and they still work.

The NiCads that replaced them were destroyed in no time flat by applying
the old NiFe charging SOP to the new batteries. They quickly lost
capacity and became useless bricks a very expensive mistake.

NiFe capacity wasn't as good but they were squaddie proof and could
stand an astonishing amount of abuse without complaint.

Can you tell a little more of these batteries? What sort of maintenance
did they require other than maybe some water?

Tesla may well go the way of the PT Cruiser. "Everybody who wanted one
had one."

There were actually people who wanted a PT Cruiser?

I had a neighbor with a "work van" type PT cruiser with no rear windows.
it was extra-extra creepy looking.

 

[John Larkin]

On Mon, 16 Feb 2015 16:58:48 +1100, Sylvia Else
<sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote:

On 16/02/2015 3:38 PM, Bill Bowden wrote:
"Sylvia Else" <sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote in message
news:ckd6evFt255U2@mid.individual.net...
On 16/02/2015 12:32 PM, Bill Sloman wrote:

No sane person needs any kind of muscle car. Transportation is there
to get you from A to B. Muscle cars shave seconds off journey times,
but are much more expensive to insure because the consequences of a
moment's inattention can be more dramatic when there's more power
available.


Actually, I think it's because those who desire to own muscle cars are the
kind of people most likely to wrap vehicles round any available obstacle,
though the insurers will simply go by the statistics.

Sylvia.

My neighbor has a red Ferrari but hardy ever drives it. He spends most of
his time polishing it. And when he drives it a few miles, he needs to remove
all the wheels to clean the dust off the disc brakes when he gets home.


His insurer is probably laughing all the way to the bank. There are
always outliers with statistics. Indeed, if they're absent, one has to
suspect that the data has been fudged.

Sylvia.

Some people with supercars buy insurance by the day.

 

[John Larkin]

On Mon, 16 Feb 2015 18:37:46 +1100, Sylvia Else
<sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote:

On 16/02/2015 6:31 PM, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Monday, 16 February 2015 15:38:43 UTC+11, Bill Bowden wrote:
"Sylvia Else" <sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote in message
news:ckd6evFt255U2@mid.individual.net...
On 16/02/2015 12:32 PM, Bill Sloman wrote:

No sane person needs any kind of muscle car. Transportation is there
to get you from A to B. Muscle cars shave seconds off journey times,
but are much more expensive to insure because the consequences of a
moment's inattention can be more dramatic when there's more power
available.


Actually, I think it's because those who desire to own muscle cars are the
kind of people most likely to wrap vehicles round any available obstacle,
though the insurers will simply go by the statistics.

Sylvia.

My neighbor has a red Ferrari but hardy ever drives it. He spends most of
his time polishing it. And when he drives it a few miles, he needs to remove
all the wheels to clean the dust off the disc brakes when he gets home.

That's not a car, but an item of personal decoration - essentially jewellery, but larger than most examples.


A bit like peacock tail feathers - no purpose other than attracting
females, and a liability when it comes to survival.

Sylvia.

Good point. But males are willing to risk death for the chance to
breed. In some species, mating directly produces death, but the boys
are still eager. Cf suicide bombers and heavenly virgins.

I'd like to own a Ferrari for a month maybe. That would be fun. But it
would be absurd for a long-term relationship.

The gasoline-powered automobile is really a peak product of modern
technology. Louis XIV never rode in the speed, comfort, or luxury of a
Honda Fit with a/c and an FM radio. Driving a good car on a twisty
mountain road is a cosmic experience.

 

[John Larkin]

On Mon, 16 Feb 2015 09:49:06 GMT, Jan Panteltje
<pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Sun, 15 Feb 2015 14:20:21 -0800) it happened John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in
ec62eatip8n89hm0ueb3i48uhp3a9ilan0@4ax.com>:

On Fri, 13 Feb 2015 10:34:03 -0800, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

There's a beautiful Tesla charging station in the parking lot of the
Safeway in Truckee. I've never seen a car charging there. Shoppers
park their gasoline cars in the charging slots when things are busy.

We just made a Safeway run, and I had a camera handy.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/53724080/Truckee/Tesla_0.jpg

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/53724080/Truckee/Tesla_1.jpg


You gotta give it to Musk, he _is_ an optimist



https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/53724080/Truckee/Tesla_2.jpg

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/53724080/Truckee/Tesla_3.jpg

Connector looks like a face of some alien with eyes...

Or a serpent.

 

On Sun, 15 Feb 2015 20:23:36 -0800, John Larkin
<jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Mon, 16 Feb 2015 14:28:30 +1100, Sylvia Else
sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote:

On 16/02/2015 12:32 PM, Bill Sloman wrote:

No sane person needs any kind of muscle car. Transportation is there
to get you from A to B. Muscle cars shave seconds off journey times,
but are much more expensive to insure because the consequences of a
moment's inattention can be more dramatic when there's more power
available.


Actually, I think it's because those who desire to own muscle cars are
the kind of people most likely to wrap vehicles round any available
obstacle, though the insurers will simply go by the statistics.

Sylvia.

I needed a car that would work in the city (small, able to climb steep
hills) and 4WD for driving in the mountains in snow, to cruise past
the chain controls. I didn't want an SUV or one of those klunky Subaru
things. But it is a kick to drive. The trick about driving hard is to
only do it when it's clearly safe.

Audi has ruined the new A3, turned it into a boring little sedan with
the wussy 2L turbo. I don't understand why anybody would buy a car
that's not a hatchback.

Didn't know they made hatchback convertibles. ;-) Don't need no
steenkin' hatchback anyway. The pickup works well.

 

[Sylvia Else]

On 16/02/2015 11:35 PM, Bill Sloman wrote:

On Monday, 16 February 2015 18:37:50 UTC+11, Sylvia Else wrote:
On 16/02/2015 6:31 PM, Bill Sloman wrote:
On Monday, 16 February 2015 15:38:43 UTC+11, Bill Bowden wrote:
"Sylvia Else" <sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote in message
news:ckd6evFt255U2@mid.individual.net...
On 16/02/2015 12:32 PM, Bill Sloman wrote:

No sane person needs any kind of muscle car. Transportation
is there to get you from A to B. Muscle cars shave seconds
off journey times, but are much more expensive to insure
because the consequences of a moment's inattention can be
more dramatic when there's more power available.


Actually, I think it's because those who desire to own muscle
cars are the kind of people most likely to wrap vehicles
round any available obstacle, though the insurers will simply
go by the statistics.

Sylvia.

My neighbor has a red Ferrari but hardy ever drives it. He
spends most of his time polishing it. And when he drives it a
few miles, he needs to remove all the wheels to clean the dust
off the disc brakes when he gets home.

That's not a car, but an item of personal decoration -
essentially jewellery, but larger than most examples.


A bit like peacock tail feathers - no purpose other than
attracting females, and a liability when it comes to survival.

Genetic survival does involve attracting females. Evolution does
suggest that male peacocks tail is a necessary - if expensive -
investment, and evolutionary biologists argue that such displays have
to be genuinely expensive to be genuinely convincing.

Yes, but it's an example of how survival of the genes is more important
than the survival of the individual.

The expense of the tail feathers nicely parallels the expense of the
vehicle.

Sylvia.

 

[Bill Bowden]

"Bill Sloman" <bill.sloman@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:df3ccefe-a6aa-4412-b50f-9ad9d921f63a@googlegroups.com...

On Monday, 16 February 2015 15:48:00 UTC+11, John Larkin wrote:
On Sun, 15 Feb 2015 20:38:34 -0800, "Bill Bowden"
bperryb@bowdenshobbycircuits.info> wrote:


"Sylvia Else" <sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote in message
news:ckd6evFt255U2@mid.individual.net...
On 16/02/2015 12:32 PM, Bill Sloman wrote:

No sane person needs any kind of muscle car. Transportation is there
to get you from A to B. Muscle cars shave seconds off journey times,
but are much more expensive to insure because the consequences of a
moment's inattention can be more dramatic when there's more power
available.


Actually, I think it's because those who desire to own muscle cars are
the
kind of people most likely to wrap vehicles round any available
obstacle,
though the insurers will simply go by the statistics.

Sylvia.

My neighbor has a red Ferrari but hardy ever drives it. He spends most
of
his time polishing it. And when he drives it a few miles, he needs to
remove
all the wheels to clean the dust off the disc brakes when he gets home.


I wash the windows on my car. It improves visibility.

Most cars have window-washing systems built in. You do have to remember to
fill them up with water and a bit of detergent/anti-freeze from time to
time.

Getting rid of encrusted insects in summer sometimes took hand-work with a
methylated-spirits-soaked paper pad, but not very often.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

I usually clean the engine compartment a bit before taking my truck in for
an oil change and checkup. I remember once, the engine was so dirty the shop
charged me an extra $10 for some cleaner that was necessary to do the job.
Or maybe it was needed to clean their hands.




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On Saturday, February 14, 2015 at 10:37:28 AM UTC-5, John Larkin wrote:

On Sat, 14 Feb 2015 17:05:38 +1100, Sylvia Else
sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote:

On 14/02/2015 3:53 PM, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 14 Feb 2015 13:44:26 +1100, Sylvia Else
sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote:

On 14/02/2015 5:34 AM, John Larkin wrote:
On Fri, 13 Feb 2015 10:09:06 GMT, Jan Panteltje
pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Thu, 12 Feb 2015 19:11:46 -0800) it happened
John Larkin <jlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote in
4rqqda56ajmpl4gcqfa0m20fob6p395u4a@4ax.com>:


http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/02/12/musk_to_unveil_home_storage_battery/



Quote:
"During the earnings call the company revealed it made a loss
of $108m (Ł71m) in its fourth quarter, blaming poor sales in
China "

More to come?

There's a beautiful Tesla charging station in the parking lot of
the Safeway in Truckee. I've never seen a car charging there.
Shoppers park their gasoline cars in the charging slots when
things are busy.



Yes - there's always someone who thinks the rules don't apply to
them.

Sylvia.

Why waste perfectly good parking spaces that nobody uses?


If it's not used, it should be reallocated. Until then, it should be
left vacant if not used for its designated purpose. Otherwise it just
encourages antisocial behaviour.

Sylvia.


We have so much antisocial behavior going on here, this little offense
is way down in the noise.

But I do notice that people in Truckee behave way better than people
in San Francisco. When I go up there, I have to remember to switch
social gears. When the Safeway+Tesla lot is full, it's because the
town is jammed with city-tourists.

Courtesy varies inversely with population density cubed.

Cheers,
James

 

[Lasse Langwadt Christense]

Den onsdag den 18. februar 2015 kl. 00.51.28 UTC+1 skrev John Larkin:

On Sat, 14 Feb 2015 08:51:53 -0800 (PST), Phil Hobbs
pcdhobbs@gmail.com> wrote:

Organic as in coming from life forms, vs. organic as in carbon-hydrogen chemistry.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

Hydrocarbons can come from inorganic sources.

it is possible to make Hydrocarbons can come from inorganic sources.
and some astrophysicist had a theory some oil/gase was from and inorganic
source

but afair the definition of organic chemistry is containing hydrocarbon

-Lasse

 

[DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUn]

On Tue, 17 Feb 2015 15:51:29 -0800, John Larkin wrote:

On Sat, 14 Feb 2015 08:51:53 -0800 (PST), Phil Hobbs
pcdhobbs@gmail.com> wrote:

Organic as in coming from life forms, vs. organic as in carbon-hydrogen
chemistry.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

Hydrocarbons can come from inorganic sources.

A giant space dung beetle dropped some 'gifts' off.

Then his brain was eaten by a Cluster Lizard.

He blowed up REAL good.