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Please explain what *you* understand by "all the time"." David the Shit Head TROLL "
** Try learning to read sometime ARSEHOLE !!
** ROTFLMAO !!!!!!
Almost as misconceived and funny as "bassett" explaining how DTV works.
Chris is actually correct.
** Bullshit he is.
The original reason the FCC banned cellular phones in any aircraft or
balloon, was to prevent harmful interference to terrestrial cellular
systems. The original ban did not consider the potential impact on
aircraft navigation or communication systems.
When in the air, the distance to the cell tower causes the cell phone to
operate at maximum power, and this cause co-channel interference.
** Complete bollocks.
Mobiles operate at max power all over the place, all the time.
Now usually you are right but this time you are not, and I can prove it.
Read the specification:
Anyway my first post did not mention the handset transmit power control
setting,
I was referring to the fact that terrain and the curvature of the
earth ...
Now usually you are right but this time you are not, and I can prove it."David"
Phil Allison wrote:
** ROTFLMAO !!!!!!
Almost as misconceived and funny as "bassett" explaining how DTV works.
Chris is actually correct.
** Bullshit he is.
The original reason the FCC banned cellular phones in any aircraft or
balloon, was to prevent harmful interference to terrestrial cellular
systems. The original ban did not consider the potential impact on
aircraft navigation or communication systems.
When in the air, the distance to the cell tower causes the cell phone to
operate at maximum power, and this cause co-channel interference.
** Complete bollocks.
Mobiles operate at max power all over the place, all the time.
Actually David, Phil is quite right, but ambiguous.Phil Allison wrote:
Mobiles operate at max power all over the place, all the time.
** Try learning to write sometime. "All the time" implies continuously,
and clearly mobile phones don't operate at maximum power continuously.
David wrote:
Phil Allison wrote:
Mobiles operate at max power all over the place, all the time.
** Try learning to write sometime. "All the time" implies continuously,
and clearly mobile phones don't operate at maximum power continuously.
Actually David, Phil is quite right, but ambiguous.
All of the time, *some* phone will be operating at full power.
Just not *all* phones, *all* the time.
Aaah now I see what you meant to say - when you wrote:** ROTFLMAO !!!!!!
Almost as misconceived and funny as "bassett" explaining how DTV
works.
Chris is actually correct.
** Bullshit he is.
The original reason the FCC banned cellular phones in any aircraft or
balloon, was to prevent harmful interference to terrestrial cellular
systems. The original ban did not consider the potential impact on
aircraft navigation or communication systems.
When in the air, the distance to the cell tower causes the cell phone
to operate at maximum power, and this cause co-channel interference.
** Complete bollocks.
Mobiles operate at max power all over the place, all the time.
Now usually you are right but this time you are not, and I can prove it.
Read the specification:
** Read what I wrote - CAREFULLY !!!!!!!!!!!
It does ** NOT ** say what you have *stupidly* assumed.
Good.
Anyway my first post did not mention the handset transmit power control
setting,
** And my words are NOT a reply to any post of YOURS !!!!!!
Well you disagreed with my explanation, albeit not in a post directed at me.
YOU FUCKING TENTH WIT !!
whatever...
other terrain. They don't launch all those satellites for nothing.I was referring to the fact that terrain and the curvature of the
earth ...
** What absolute CRAPOLOGY !!!
Curvature of the earth is not involved - FUCKWIT !!!
It does limit line-of-sight propagation along with buildings, mountains or
YOU have not got ONE single tiny clue about RF propagation or how
mobile
phones REALLY work.
Please do tell! How do they REALLY work?
not relevant in Australia. I simply mentioned that the network operatorsThe FCC in the USA made up its dumb regulation when ANALOGUE ( ie
simple
FM ) cell phones were the ONLY kind in use.
Which has got ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the situation of a SINGLE
mobile on board an UNMANNED experimental balloon being used for data
communication in AUSTRALIA !!
I never speculated about the motivations of the FCC, as I agree that it is
Now FUCK the HELL OFF !!!!!!!!!
& take that ASD fucked " David " puke head with you !!
Thank you for being more than usually civil. A good day to you too.
Come on Phil, tell us what you learnt before you got kicked out ofYOU have not got ONE single tiny clue about RF propagation or how
mobile
phones REALLY work.
Please do tell! How do they REALLY work?
Check with the ACMA. The class license for the operation of cellularThe FCC in the USA made up its dumb regulation when ANALOGUE ( ie
simple
FM ) cell phones were the ONLY kind in use.
Which has got ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the situation of a SINGLE
mobile on board an UNMANNED experimental balloon being used for data
communication in AUSTRALIA !!
I never speculated about the motivations of the FCC, as I agree that it is
not relevant in Australia. I simply mentioned that the network operators
could have reason to be upset with this sort of thing, and that it would
probably be illegal also. If you can show that it is not illegal then I
will have learnt something, but so far I remain suspicions that it may be
illegal, and so if the OP did intend to do this experiment then he might be
well advised to make sure that he does not get into trouble over it.
Check with the ACMA. The class license for the operation of cellular
phones, modems or other devices does not authorize the operation in an
airbourne aircraft. What the OP wants to do is *illegal* in Australia (and
USA).
Just because people do something which is illegal every day does not"David"
Check with the ACMA. The class license for the operation of
cellular phones, modems or other devices does not authorize the
operation in an airbourne aircraft. What the OP wants to do is
*illegal* in Australia (and USA).
** What a load of IRRELEVANT BOLLOCKS !!!!!!!!
The regulation is absurd and unenforceable - thousands of folk in
the USA ignore it every single day as do hundreds of Australians.
Only the fact that major airlines enforce it on board scheduled
flights gives it any reality.
Pity that was not a question he asked. It is not illegal if the OP hasIn my first post to the OP, I pointed out HIS idea was pointless and
/or illegal under the aviation regulations in relation to balloons.
http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:YqJn5sEyG9QJ:www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_reg/casr1998333/+tethered+balloon&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=9&gl=au
See part 101.
Launching a sizeable balloon is a highly visible activity - only
one person seeing it has to report the OP in to CASA or the police to
get him in serious trouble.
For which the answer is yes, it must not be used whilst airbourne, as- Is there a legal altitude limit for GSM/GPRS operation?
In my first post to the OP, I pointed out HIS idea was pointless and
/or illegal under the aviation regulations in relation to balloons.
http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:YqJn5sEyG9QJ:www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_reg/casr1998333/+tethered+balloon&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=9&gl=au
See part 101.
Launching a sizeable balloon is a highly visible activity - only
one person seeing it has to report the OP in to CASA or the police to
get him in serious trouble.
Pity that was not a question he asked.
It is not illegal if the OP has
approval from CASA,
You know nothing about the balloon and it background. The OP was asking
sensible questions about telemetry, not about ballooning.
What the OP *DID* ask was:
- Is there a legal altitude limit for GSM/GPRS operation?
For which the answer is yes, it must not be used whilst airbourne,