Grrrrrrr

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John Larkin

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The AMP web site is absolutely, totally, stupidly useless. If you
don't already know the part number of what you want, you'll never find
it.

I guess all those Tyco companies are just fronts for stock scams.

John
 
On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 20:35:21 -0500, Spehro Pefhany
<speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:

On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 17:24:24 -0800, the renowned John Larkin
jjlarkin@highSNIPlandTHIStechPLEASEnology.com> wrote:

The AMP web site is absolutely, totally, stupidly useless. If you
don't already know the part number of what you want, you'll never find
it.

I guess all those Tyco companies are just fronts for stock scams.

John

LOL> I've been swearing at connector companies all week. I finally
solved the problem by getting in my car, going out and buying a
sample, taking it apart, and sticking the part number into google. ;=)
Click to expand...
What I need is a regular bulkhead-mount, not isolated, UG625 sort of
BNC female, the most common in the world, solder cup, except with a
little ground tab on the back. Bummer is, I have one and don't know
where it came from.

Snarl.

John
 
On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 17:24:24 -0800, John Larkin
<jjlarkin@highSNIPlandTHIStechPLEASEnology.com> wrote:

The AMP web site is absolutely, totally, stupidly useless. If you
don't already know the part number of what you want, you'll never find
it.

I guess all those Tyco companies are just fronts for stock scams.

John

Don't get me started. Tycoon/Amp drawings look like they were scanned in
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with Etch-A-Sketch. Just try getting a quote on something that distributors
don't carry in stock. 5000pc minimum on some parts.


--

Boris Mohar
 
On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 17:24:24 -0800, John Larkin
<jjlarkin@highSNIPlandTHIStechPLEASEnology.com> wrote:

The AMP web site is absolutely, totally, stupidly useless. If you
don't already know the part number of what you want, you'll never find
it.

(snip)
Click to expand...

Amen. We use lots of Tyco stuff, but the web site is horrible. It's
even more frustrating when they assimilate a company that had a useful
web site, and Borg it into the Tyco site. Raychem is an example of
this.

I will say this for Tyco. They do stand behind their products. They
are also quick to respond to technical issues. I posted a drawing
error report to their site one afternoon, and by the next morning I
had received a chain reply showing that my comments had already gone
overseas and back again through several people.


================================

Greg Neff
VP Engineering
*Microsym* Computers Inc.
greg@guesswhichwordgoeshere.com
 
John Larkin wrote:
The AMP web site is absolutely, totally, stupidly useless. If you
don't already know the part number of what you want, you'll never find
it.
Click to expand...
Funnily enough, I spent the 3 weeks before Christmas playing happily
with AMP and other sites, AMP are by no means the worst. I almost
decided to throw up the lot and become a monk.

Paul Burke
 
In article <pan.2005.02.01.02.59.41.527319@att.bizzzz>,
keith <krw@att.bizzzz> wrote:

The droid at Best Buy was rather
confused when I said I wanted a PCI card with a DB25 and DB9.
Click to expand...
You can't have two DB-sized connectors on PCI card flange, so I can
unserstand why the droid was confused.

"Oh,
*that's* what you wanted!"
Click to expand...
Perhaps you should have asked for a PCI card with one DB25 and one DE9?

--
Göran Larsson http://www.mitt-eget.com/
 
On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 17:24:24 -0800, in sci.electronics.design John
Larkin <jjlarkin@highSNIPlandTHIStechPLEASEnology.com> wrote:

The AMP web site is absolutely, totally, stupidly useless. If you
don't already know the part number of what you want, you'll never find
it.

I guess all those Tyco companies are just fronts for stock scams.

John


Just try searching for "tiny logic" on www.farnell.com or rswww.com
Click to expand...

Bleeding nightmare (+ expensive)




martin

Serious error.
All shortcuts have disappeared.
Screen. Mind. Both are blank.
 
Greg Neff wrote...
I will say this for Tyco. They do stand behind their products. They
are also quick to respond to technical issues. I posted a drawing
error report to their site one afternoon, and by the next morning I
had received a chain reply showing that my comments had already gone
overseas and back again through several people.
Click to expand...
But, did the drawing get fixed, and if so, how much later?


--
Thanks,
- Win
 
On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 09:21:43 GMT,
Goran Larsson <hoh@invalid.invalid> wrote
in Msg. <IB87C7.4Fw@approve.se>

You can't have two DB-sized connectors on PCI card flange, so I can
unserstand why the droid was confused.
Click to expand...
Huh? Then how does my dual-head VGA card work?

--D.
 
On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 13:41:53 +0100,
martin griffith <martingriffith@yahoo.co.uk> wrote
in Msg. <g6uuv0d4blc92fnor2o3kab88cn5b29n8v@4ax.com>

Just try searching for "tiny logic" on www.farnell.com or rswww.com
Click to expand...
That's what amazes me -- one would think that these big catalog
distributors shoukd have good online catalogs -- not so. They're simply
impossible to use. And with RS you even have to rgister and log in to see
data sheets for their products -- ugh.

--Daniel
 
In article <mkvtv0l79gomnl130afahujjadpgadgd0b@4ax.com>,
John Larkin <jjSNIPlarkin@highTHISlandPLEASEtechnology.XXX> wrote:
[...]
I decided to complain about the situation. So I clicked "contact AMP"
and, of course, wound up in a loop with no sign of a contact
mechanism. I guess they got tired of people whining about "connectors"
and other things they don't care about any more.
Click to expand...
Digikey carries some AMP parts. Those are the only ones that will go into
new designs. The rest of the AMP products will slowly go out of use.

This is how companies grow old and die.

--
--
kensmith@rahul.net forging knowledge
 
In article <slrncvv2vf.29v.haude@kir.physnet.uni-hamburg.de>,
Daniel Haude <haude@physnet.uni-hamburg.de> wrote:
On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 09:21:43 GMT,
Goran Larsson <hoh@invalid.invalid> wrote
in Msg. <IB87C7.4Fw@approve.se

You can't have two DB-sized connectors on PCI card flange, so I can
unserstand why the droid was confused.

Huh? Then how does my dual-head VGA card work?
Click to expand...
Are you sure that your VGA card does have two DB-sized connectors?

The normal VGA connector is a DE-15 and there is room for two DE-sized
connectors on a PCI card flange, so I am quite sure that your VGA card
has two DE-sized connectors, not two DB-sized connectors.

--
Göran Larsson http://www.mitt-eget.com/
 
I read in sci.electronics.design that John Larkin <jjSNIPlarkin@highTHIS
landPLEASEtechnology.XXX> wrote (in <rgbvv09kmmh4c5qr4ot0uot5jc90b06fpq@
4ax.com>) about 'Grrrrrrr', on Tue, 1 Feb 2005:
What I have is a machined aluminum tube; one end will be the BNC, the
other end a laser diode, and a short skinny PCB between. The BNC and the
laser are held in by setscrews. I need good grounds from the shell to
the BNC and from the BNC to the PC board. I have the connector, but only
a couple and I don't know where they came from. Possibly Radio Shack?
They have that look.
Click to expand...
Check out Farnell/Newark. Some of the basic BNC fixed connectors come
with a grounding solder-tag, if that's what you need.
--
Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.
The good news is that nothing is compulsory.
The bad news is that everything is prohibited.
http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk
 
On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 13:41:53 +0100, martin griffith
<martingriffith@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 17:24:24 -0800, in sci.electronics.design John
Larkin <jjlarkin@highSNIPlandTHIStechPLEASEnology.com> wrote:

The AMP web site is absolutely, totally, stupidly useless. If you
don't already know the part number of what you want, you'll never find
it.

I guess all those Tyco companies are just fronts for stock scams.

John


Just try searching for "tiny logic" on www.farnell.com or rswww.com

Bleeding nightmare (+ expensive)
Click to expand...
I seem to hear Europeans complaining a lot about how hard it is to get
parts. Farnell seems to be the only option, or at least everybody
seems to suggest them. Here, we have Mouser, Digikey, Newark, Allied
(with Jameco struggling to catch up) who sell out of catalogs, and
lots of regular reps and distributors who will sell or sample small
quantities. I can ask my purchasing person, at 4 PM, to get me parts
from Digikey and have them the next morning. It's like having an uncle
who owns a toy factory.

I love TinyLogic. TI, ON, Fairchild. What parts are you looking for?

John
 
Ken Smith wrote:
In article <jdmtv01pabotlrg6l2bio050eejeehsh6m@4ax.com>,
John Larkin <jjlarkin@highSNIPlandTHIStechPLEASEnology.com> wrote:

The AMP web site is absolutely, totally, stupidly useless. If you
don't already know the part number of what you want, you'll never find
it.


I still have the big thick blue book from AMP. Other than that, give up
on trying to spec and AMP connector. There web site used to be merely
bad. Now it is beyond the scope of what there are words for.

Amphenol's web site is better. (but then how can it be worse) I have the
local ITT cannon dist. showing up on Friday.

Samtec is the only connector company that want to sell you connectors.


I was on Molex's site last week poking around for a while, and while
Click to expand...
still not pleasant, at least it's moving in the right direction. Now if
you ask real nicely they'll tell you at least the first couple digits of
the mating part number.

Conversely, between AMP's entirely arcane part numbering system and the
lack of a usable website, even if you can find the absolutely perfect
one half of a connection, you will never ever ever find the other. AMP
has made me want to use card edge connectors purely to avoid having to
hunt down the matching part.
 
"John Larkin" <jjlarkin@highSNIPlandTHIStechPLEASEnology.com> wrote in message
news:jontv05djfqa9vbtceh19f8957bdi46prn@4ax.com...
On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 20:35:21 -0500, Spehro Pefhany
speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:

On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 17:24:24 -0800, the renowned John Larkin
jjlarkin@highSNIPlandTHIStechPLEASEnology.com> wrote:

The AMP web site is absolutely, totally, stupidly useless. If you
don't already know the part number of what you want, you'll never find
it.

I guess all those Tyco companies are just fronts for stock scams.

John

LOL> I've been swearing at connector companies all week. I finally
solved the problem by getting in my car, going out and buying a
sample, taking it apart, and sticking the part number into google. ;=)



What I need is a regular bulkhead-mount, not isolated, UG625 sort of
BNC female, the most common in the world, solder cup, except with a
little ground tab on the back. Bummer is, I have one and don't know
where it came from.

Snarl.

John
Click to expand...
How about these....Paul

http://www.amphenolrf.com/part_detail.asp?amphenolNumber=31-10-75

http://www.amphenolrf.com/part_detail.asp?amphenolNumber=31-10-75-RFXG2
 
On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 15:53:06 GMT, Goran Larsson wrote:

In article <slrncvv2vf.29v.haude@kir.physnet.uni-hamburg.de>,
Daniel Haude <haude@physnet.uni-hamburg.de> wrote:
On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 09:21:43 GMT,
Goran Larsson <hoh@invalid.invalid> wrote
in Msg. <IB87C7.4Fw@approve.se

You can't have two DB-sized connectors on PCI card flange, so I can
unserstand why the droid was confused.

Huh? Then how does my dual-head VGA card work?

Are you sure that your VGA card does have two DB-sized connectors?

The normal VGA connector is a DE-15 and there is room for two DE-sized
connectors on a PCI card flange, so I am quite sure that your VGA card
has two DE-sized connectors, not two DB-sized connectors.
Click to expand...
It *is* tight. I can't see a DB-9 and DB-12 there, but it looks like
2 DB-9s would fit.

It sounds like Keith got what he wanted in a ser/par card, but I
can't see it. That DB-25 is almost as wide as the 2 side-by-side
DB-9s I'm looking at.
--
Best Regards,
Mike
 
In article <p73h6101zawv.dlg@ID-222894.news.individual.net>,
Active8 <reply2group@ndbbm.net> wrote:

It sounds like Keith got what he wanted in a ser/par card, but I
can't see it. That DB-25 is almost as wide as the 2 side-by-side
DB-9s I'm looking at.
Click to expand...
A DB-9 has exactly the same shell size as a DB-25, the only difference
is that the DB-9 would, if anyone bothered to manufacture any, have
only nine pins or sockets. You are probably looking at two DE-9
connectors.

--
Göran Larsson http://www.mitt-eget.com/
 
On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 18:01:24 +0000, John Woodgate
<jmw@jmwa.demon.contraspam.yuk> wrote:

I read in sci.electronics.design that John Larkin <jjSNIPlarkin@highTHIS
landPLEASEtechnology.XXX> wrote (in <rgbvv09kmmh4c5qr4ot0uot5jc90b06fpq@
4ax.com>) about 'Grrrrrrr', on Tue, 1 Feb 2005:
What I have is a machined aluminum tube; one end will be the BNC, the
other end a laser diode, and a short skinny PCB between. The BNC and the
laser are held in by setscrews. I need good grounds from the shell to
the BNC and from the BNC to the PC board. I have the connector, but only
a couple and I don't know where they came from. Possibly Radio Shack?
They have that look.

Check out Farnell/Newark. Some of the basic BNC fixed connectors come
with a grounding solder-tag, if that's what you need.
Click to expand...
Cowabunga! You're right!

http://www.spctechnology.com/prodinfo/specs/90n3218.pdf

Newark has this. Thanks.

John
 
On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 20:08:06 GMT, Goran Larsson wrote:

In article <p73h6101zawv.dlg@ID-222894.news.individual.net>,
Active8 <reply2group@ndbbm.net> wrote:

It sounds like Keith got what he wanted in a ser/par card, but I
can't see it. That DB-25 is almost as wide as the 2 side-by-side
DB-9s I'm looking at.

A DB-9 has exactly the same shell size as a DB-25, the only difference
is that the DB-9 would, if anyone bothered to manufacture any, have
only nine pins or sockets. You are probably looking at two DE-9
connectors.
Click to expand...
Nope. My parallel port is DB-25 and I have 2 serial ports - DB-9
side by side.

The DE prefix is new on me. I thought those VGA and external SCSI
connectors were prefixed (or maybe suffixed) HD for "high density"
I've seen "HD" in catalogs, at least.

I also have the [what *I* call] shells for the cable ass'ys and they
are different sizes.
--
Best Regards,
Mike
 
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