Elektor Electronics new website

[HomeLab]

I just noticed that Elektor Electronics magazine have silently
uploaded a new website. I've not seeen all of it yet but it looks as
if they've finally managed to put their (occasionally brilliant)
articles online just as EPE have been doing over the past years. Not
sure how far back in time, though. Articles are available individally,
however, not the entire isuue as opposed to EPE. There's also a forum
and a bring & buy section. Still very few postings over there, I guess
that'll change when they properly announce the new site in the next
issue (I have the Feb 2005 edition).
There's also what looks like a rudimentary online shop.

url: www.elektor-electronics.co.uk (automatically links to a numbered
url)

ta
Richard

 

[MikeMandaville]

HomeLab wrote:

I just noticed that Elektor Electronics magazine have silently
uploaded a new website. I've not seeen all of it yet but it looks as
if they've finally managed to put their (occasionally brilliant)
articles online just as EPE have been doing over the past years. Not
sure how far back in time, though. Articles are available
individally,
however, not the entire isuue as opposed to EPE. There's also a forum
and a bring & buy section. Still very few postings over there, I
guess
that'll change when they properly announce the new site in the next
issue (I have the Feb 2005 edition).
There's also what looks like a rudimentary online shop.

url: www.elektor-electronics.co.uk (automatically links to a numbered
url)

ta
Richard

Excellent. Lots of good reading here.

 

[Terry Pinnell]

"MikeMandaville" <MikeMandaville@aol.com> wrote:

HomeLab wrote:
I just noticed that Elektor Electronics magazine have silently
uploaded a new website. I've not seeen all of it yet but it looks as
if they've finally managed to put their (occasionally brilliant)
articles online just as EPE have been doing over the past years. Not
sure how far back in time, though. Articles are available
individally,
however, not the entire isuue as opposed to EPE. There's also a forum
and a bring & buy section. Still very few postings over there, I
guess
that'll change when they properly announce the new site in the next
issue (I have the Feb 2005 edition).
There's also what looks like a rudimentary online shop.

url: www.elektor-electronics.co.uk (automatically links to a numbered
url)

ta
Richard

Excellent. Lots of good reading here.

At a steep price. First article I viewed, arbitrary choice, 'LED
bedside lamp', gave me a list of components and a link to the
(presumably full) PDF, for 1.00UKP (1.85USD)

--
Terry Pinnell
Hobbyist, West Sussex, UK

 

[HomeLab]

Why don't you add it? Something like username Bugmenot with PW of
bugmenot.

Me? I had a yr's subscription to Elektor USA and I didn't like the mag.
I'm glad it went tits up.


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
--

That happened 12 (!) years ago, and in the US only. UK and other
European readers seem to think differently as the mag is still around.

Rich (UK)

 

[Watson A.Name - \"Watt Su]

"HomeLab" <homelab@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
news:2e807ffc.0502140335.217f6672@posting.google.com...

Why don't you add it? Something like username Bugmenot with PW of
bugmenot.

Me? I had a yr's subscription to Elektor USA and I didn't like the
mag.
I'm glad it went tits up.


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
--

That happened 12 (!) years ago, and in the US only. UK and other
European readers seem to think differently as the mag is still around.

Yeah, that was my big complaint: it was too European.

Good riddance.

> Rich (UK)

 

[Kryten]

"Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun, the Dark Remover"" <NOSPAM@dslextreme.com> wrote
in message news:1112r98aa3fpr52@corp.supernews.com...

Yeah, that was my big complaint: it was too European.

In what way?

There is the mains voltage difference, but most projects are low voltage.

Teletext and SCART are less common in the USA, but such projects are not
frequent.

 

[Paul Burke]

Kryten wrote:

"Watson A.Name -
Yeah, that was my big complaint: it was too European.

In what way?

I suspect he means an insufficency of foaming nutcases.

Paul Burke

 

[Kryten]

"Paul Burke" <paul@scazon.com> wrote in message
news:37eg7qF5audo0U1@individual.net...

Kryten wrote:
"Watson A.Name -
Yeah, that was my big complaint: it was too European.

In what way?

I suspect he means an insufficiency of foaming nutcases.

I hadn't noticed any in Circuit Cellar etc.

On the other hand, I am fed up of Ivor Catt and the like who pad out
Electronics World with cods wallop.

 

[Rich The Newsgropup Wacko]

On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 23:14:24 +0000, Kryten wrote:

It's like the field of medicine. You have specialists in many different
fields, like neuroscience and proctology.

Well, be careful you don't confuse your optic nerve with your anal
sphincter, or you might get a shitty outlook on life.

Sorry,
Rich

 

[Fred Abse]

On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 07:59:04 -0800, Winfield Hill wrote:

It's a myth that Linux comes primarily from unpaid programmers.

What I said.

--
Then there's duct tape ...
(Garrison Keillor)

 

[Winfield Hill]

Fred Abse wrote...

On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 07:59:04 -0800, Winfield Hill wrote:

It's a myth that Linux comes primarily from unpaid programmers.

What I said.

That's right. I guess it was your 'probably not "well paid"'
comment that set me off. Software engineers at IBM, Sun, Novell,
Red Hat, HP, Intel, CA, and Cisco, to mention a few places where
massive Linux programming is done, are probably quite well paid.
Linux development is serious business now.


--
Thanks,
- Win

 

[Fred Abse]

On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 09:09:18 -0800, Joel Kolstad wrote:

Linux is a great example of people doing things for free that one would
typically expect to be well paid for.

These days, a lot of open-source developers are sponsored by the various
distributions. probably not "well paid", but paid nevertheless.


--
Then there's duct tape ...
(Garrison Keillor)

 

[Rick Fox]

On 11 Feb 2005 01:52:59 -0800, homelab@hotmail.co.uk (HomeLab) wrote:

I just noticed that Elektor Electronics magazine have silently
uploaded a new website. I've not seeen all of it yet but it looks as
if they've finally managed to put their (occasionally brilliant)
articles online just as EPE have been doing over the past years. Not
sure how far back in time, though. Articles are available individally,
however, not the entire isuue as opposed to EPE. There's also a forum
and a bring & buy section. Still very few postings over there, I guess
that'll change when they properly announce the new site in the next
issue (I have the Feb 2005 edition).
There's also what looks like a rudimentary online shop.

url: www.elektor-electronics.co.uk (automatically links to a numbered
url)

ta
Richard

Elektor has stopped providing their PCB layouts as free .pdf
downloads. That means we have to go back to photocopying the layouts
from the magazine, like we did years ago, or buy the full .pdf article
(which Elektor says is the answer - even though we have already paid
for the magazine)

As a long term subscriber (1983) I am disgusted, and have told Elektor
so.

I will be canceling my subscription and stop buying the magazine if
they don't change their minds on this. That's how strongly I feel. I
will *not* take this huge backwards step in amateur PCB making.

Please, anyone else who feels the same about this, email them and
visit the 'non technical' forum on their new website.

Rick.

 

[Kryten]

Could you (and others here) list topics they would like to read about?

I've written about 15 articles for EW over the last 3 years, and have
had little feedback from readers (apart from the odd student wanting
help with their project)

Perhaps they are a)too boring b)too irrelevant c)too incomprehensible

I'd just like to know!!

That is an excellent question and I'd like a good time to think about it!


But yes, it is a hard job to think of good stuff.

For a long time, the main cool consumer electronic goods were stuff like TV
and hi-fi.
You could pack an interesting article in a couple of pages.
You didn't have to be a rocket scientist.

At some point, somebody noticed that an ordinary C64 had more processing
power than the computers in the Apollo spacecraft.

Nowadays my main cool consumer electronic goods include a hi-fi with similar
CPU speed as a C64, and a laptop with many thousands of times more
processing power and code than a C64.

It is a lot harder to write articles people would think "hey, cool, I'll try
that myself".
We had a chance of building a nice phono pre-amp.
We have much less chance of building a CD player chip or a 24-bit DAC and
oversampling filter.
Or a Windows-beating OS (unless you are Linus Torvalds).

The coolness threshold has risen so high that it takes a lot more effort to
put together decent offerings. Elektor need to have much more staff
producing more projects to do.

 

[ted]

Good point. Myself I don't think it's any longer possible to increase
reader
numbers. The whole industry has these past 30 years devolved into say
an
85%-15% digital/analogue split, maybe finally to stablize at a
90%-10%
level. The people who buy the mag's just seem born that way and
curious wrt
analogue systems. Digital systems/process/programming etc being
regarded
only as a means-to-an-end.
Well, Ms Josifovska has done a very good job at improving the look of

the IEE magazine, so I wish her well with EW. I also hope the use of
advertorial pieces is just a temporary thing. I agree with you that if
it continues this way, it won't last. You need a bit more substance if
you are paying nearly 4 pounds for a magazine.

The uni's must now turn out 85% DSP/computing specialists. But how
many of
these are willing to fork out Ł3.25 of their own money for a special
interest 'DSP World' or 'Practical DSP' mag'?. How many programming
mag's
are even on sale?.
I think electronics has matured to such an extent that newcomers (eg

uni students) are not the inquisitive/creative types any more, but
simply implementers. It has become like other professions like
accountancy and dentistry. Learn the trade, use the tools, and that's
it. No research/innovation involved (as it used to be the case) when
engineers had to be innovative in their designs in order to get ahead.

Thought I'd lost a couple of mags but you might be pleased to hear
they were
found filed in the "In case of this requirement, mug up on these
selected
articles before looking anywhere else" bookshelf section, (web I/O
and USB
Scope).
Thanks for the compliments. I usually write these articles on the back

of a project I was doing at the time. So that the research time has
already been done (and paid for). Writing the piece is much easier
that way. I could not contemplate researching the material just for
the article.

Essentially you seem to be writing stuff that will be of interest to
readers
of EW. Shurely we're all basically enthusiasts,
Unfirtunately, a lot of areas are non-starters. I had an idea on

Zigbee, but obtaining any decent information is next to impossible.
The 802.15 bits are all easily obtainable, but the zigbee section is a
closed book to mere mortals like me. It is getting more and more like
this for all new technologies...a pity really..

While rummaging through the issues back to 1988 I spotted a few
articles
that I remember well and would like to see more of.
There are a few gems around (unfort, not enough). I particularly like

innovative use of existing cheap technology. My favourite one was the
one about a sensing microscope made by attaching a tinly cantilever to
a "cut in half" piezo sounder. The tiny vibrations caused the
cantilever to move by tiny amounts causing capacitive changes,
brilliant! And yes, I have the Scientific American "Amateur Scientist"
CD. Full of amazing stuff!!!

Regards

 

[Watson A.Name - \"Watt Su]

"keith" <krw@att.bizzzz> wrote in message
newsan.2005.02.23.03.03.23.398782@att.bizzzz...

[snip]

Perhaps I am arrogant, but you've proven to be a ignorant time we've
crossed paths. Apologise to human waste like you? FOr calling a
ruskie's hat a "cossack hat"? Please. Grow up Francis!

Look who's talking!!! Doh...

--
Keith

--
Keith

 

[Graham W]

ted wrote:
[...]

There are a few gems around (unfort, not enough). I particularly like
innovative use of existing cheap technology. My favourite one was the
one about a sensing microscope made by attaching a tinly cantilever to
a "cut in half" piezo sounder. The tiny vibrations caused the
cantilever to move by tiny amounts causing capacitive changes,
brilliant!

That's the long way round of making a record-player (phonograph)
crystal pick-up cartridge! I wonder if he had considered one?


--
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Dorset UK Astro Society's Web pages, Info, Meeting Dates, Sites & Maps
Change 'news' to 'sewn' in my Reply address to avoid my spam filter.

 

[ted]

"Graham W" <graham@his.com.puter.INVALID> wrote in message news:<421f5d51$0$16766$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net>...

ted wrote:
[...]
There are a few gems around (unfort, not enough). I particularly like
innovative use of existing cheap technology. My favourite one was the
one about a sensing microscope made by attaching a tinly cantilever to
a "cut in half" piezo sounder. The tiny vibrations caused the
cantilever to move by tiny amounts causing capacitive changes,
brilliant!

That's the long way round of making a record-player (phonograph)
crystal pick-up cartridge! I wonder if he had considered one?

Oh gosh, it was much "cleverer" than that... Cantilevering the
needle's base between the two halves of the piezo allowed for very
accurate side to side movement of the tip by a few micrometers, far
more precise than a gramophone's needle.

 

[John Woodgate]

I read in sci.electronics.design that ted <edaudio2000@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote (in <c54bf83f.0502260244.66776495@posting.google.com&gt about
'Elektor Electronics new website', on Sat, 26 Feb 2005:

"Graham W" <graham@his.com.puter.INVALID> wrote in message news:<421f5d51$0$1676
6$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net>...
ted wrote:
[...]
There are a few gems around (unfort, not enough). I particularly like
innovative use of existing cheap technology. My favourite one was the
one about a sensing microscope made by attaching a tinly cantilever to
a "cut in half" piezo sounder. The tiny vibrations caused the
cantilever to move by tiny amounts causing capacitive changes,
brilliant!

That's the long way round of making a record-player (phonograph)
crystal pick-up cartridge! I wonder if he had considered one?

Oh gosh, it was much "cleverer" than that... Cantilevering the
needle's base between the two halves of the piezo allowed for very
accurate side to side movement of the tip by a few micrometers, far
more precise than a gramophone's needle.

Have a look at the groove pitch on an LP, and then consider that signals
well over 40 dB below that can be recorded and played, preserving the
waveform.
--
Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.
The good news is that nothing is compulsory.
The bad news is that everything is prohibited.
http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk

 

[keith]

On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 15:54:46 +0000, Rich Grise wrote:

On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 11:44:41 +0000, John Woodgate wrote:

I read in sci.electronics.design that ted <edaudio2000@yahoo.co.uk
wrote (in <c54bf83f.0502260244.66776495@posting.google.com&gt about
'Elektor Electronics new website', on Sat, 26 Feb 2005:
"Graham W" <graham@his.com.puter.INVALID> wrote in message news:<421f5d51$0$1676
6$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net>...
ted wrote:
[...]
There are a few gems around (unfort, not enough). I particularly like
innovative use of existing cheap technology. My favourite one was the
one about a sensing microscope made by attaching a tinly cantilever to
a "cut in half" piezo sounder. The tiny vibrations caused the
cantilever to move by tiny amounts causing capacitive changes,
brilliant!

That's the long way round of making a record-player (phonograph)
crystal pick-up cartridge! I wonder if he had considered one?

Oh gosh, it was much "cleverer" than that... Cantilevering the
needle's base between the two halves of the piezo allowed for very
accurate side to side movement of the tip by a few micrometers, far
more precise than a gramophone's needle.

Have a look at the groove pitch on an LP, and then consider that signals
well over 40 dB below that can be recorded and played, preserving the
waveform.

So, given this groove pitch, how many grooves are there, on average, on
one side of a typical LP?

One.

--
Keith