Election Re-Run?...

On 2020/11/06 6:51 a.m., John Doe wrote:
A Third World troll constantly sticking its filthy America-hating nose
into our business...

Idiot.

Australia has a vested interest in US politics and policies. As do the
rest of the free world. Just because you can\'t understand international
relationships (\'cause Putin doesn\'t want you to) doesn\'t mean they don\'t
matter.

Australia played a big part in WWII, and worked with the USA to bring
that chapter to a close. As did Canada, the Free French, the Free Poles,
Norwegians, UK, etc. We knew who are friends were then, can you blame us
now if we worry for our friend\'s mental health...

John
 
On Friday, November 6, 2020 at 1:22:45 PM UTC-5, John Robertson wrote:
On 2020/11/06 6:51 a.m., John Doe wrote:
A Third World troll constantly sticking its filthy America-hating nose
into our business...


Idiot.

Australia has a vested interest in US politics and policies. As do the
rest of the free world. Just because you can\'t understand international
relationships (\'cause Putin doesn\'t want you to) doesn\'t mean they don\'t
matter.

Australia played a big part in WWII, and worked with the USA to bring
that chapter to a close. As did Canada, the Free French, the Free Poles,
Norwegians, UK, etc. We knew who are friends were then, can you blame us
now if we worry for our friend\'s mental health...

I think in the US we are not taught much about WWII that is about anything other than the US vs. Germany and then US vs. Russia/USSR. But then I was in school during the cold war immediately after the bit \"commie\" scare.

Still, the only insight I\'ve received into Australia\'s involvement in WWII is from Australian TV. I think there was a rather good show about an MD working as a coroner in some backwater town with a significant war past that was a bit informative. At least it portrayed something other than a cocky guy with a knife and a bush hat.

Did anything significant happen in WWII other than Omaha beach in Europe and the atomic bomb in the Pacific??? <tongue in cheek>

--

Rick C.

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On Fri, 6 Nov 2020 14:51:37 -0000 (UTC), John Doe
<always.look@message.header> wrote:

A Third World troll constantly sticking its filthy America-hating nose
into our business...

He stuck his nose into Brexit as well. Seems to think he\'s better
informed about the affairs of a country than those who actually live
in it. Then he goes one further still and thinks he knows what\'s best
for that country\'s future, too. And it invariably involves some
variation of Marx\'s clapped-out, discredited ideology. Sloman is a
Cultural Marxist of the Trotskyite persuasion. A most unfortunate
combination. The man is too stupid to realise how much he doesn\'t know
about the world and how it really works.
 
On 2020/11/06 11:34 a.m., Rickster C wrote:
On Friday, November 6, 2020 at 1:22:45 PM UTC-5, John Robertson wrote:
On 2020/11/06 6:51 a.m., John Doe wrote:
A Third World troll constantly sticking its filthy America-hating nose
into our business...


Idiot.

Australia has a vested interest in US politics and policies. As do the
rest of the free world. Just because you can\'t understand international
relationships (\'cause Putin doesn\'t want you to) doesn\'t mean they don\'t
matter.

Australia played a big part in WWII, and worked with the USA to bring
that chapter to a close. As did Canada, the Free French, the Free Poles,
Norwegians, UK, etc. We knew who are friends were then, can you blame us
now if we worry for our friend\'s mental health...

I think in the US we are not taught much about WWII that is about anything other than the US vs. Germany and then US vs. Russia/USSR. But then I was in school during the cold war immediately after the bit \"commie\" scare.

Still, the only insight I\'ve received into Australia\'s involvement in WWII is from Australian TV. I think there was a rather good show about an MD working as a coroner in some backwater town with a significant war past that was a bit informative. At least it portrayed something other than a cocky guy with a knife and a bush hat.

Did anything significant happen in WWII other than Omaha beach in Europe and the atomic bomb in the Pacific??? <tongue in cheek

Not much, Canada may have had the third largest navy n the world by the
end of WWII, but hey we weren\'t trying THAT hard...

Those crazy Aussies were all over the Pacific islands with radio
transmitters trying to notify the allies of what the Japanese were up
to. A number of them were captured and killed, but I don\'t think that is
taught in the US history classes either.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_history_of_Australia_during_World_War_II

John :-#)#
 
On Fri, 6 Nov 2020 18:30:00 -0800 (PST), Bill Sloman
<bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:

Actually, nobody is. The \"Cultural Marxism\" he talks about is a right-wing invention. There were cultural Marxists once, but they died out long ago.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Marxism_conspiracy_theory

Invention? I don\'t think so, Bill. It\'s all part of a long-running
plot to undermine and ultimately destroy the pillars which underpin
Western civilisation. Here\'s a primer from your preferred source, so
you won\'t be able to take issue with that aspect at least....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankfurt_School

These mentally-ill old cretins may be long dead, but unfortunately
their poisonous ideas have survived them and \'daylight is the best
disinfectant\' as we say.
 
On Saturday, November 7, 2020 at 9:39:57 PM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Fri, 6 Nov 2020 18:30:00 -0800 (PST), Bill Sloman
bill....@ieee.org> wrote:

Actually, nobody is. The \"Cultural Marxism\" he talks about is a right-wing invention. There were cultural Marxists once, but they died out long ago..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Marxism_conspiracy_theory

Invention? I don\'t think so, Bill. It\'s all part of a long-running
plot to undermine and ultimately destroy the pillars which underpin
Western civilisation.

Do take your idiot conspiracy theories some place where your haven\'t put as much work into identifying yourself as half-wit.

Here\'s a primer from your preferred source, so
you won\'t be able to take issue with that aspect at least....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankfurt_School

I saw it years ago, and I believe I\'ve pointed it out to you here.

> These mentally-ill old cretins may be long dead, but unfortunately their poisonous ideas have survived them and \'daylight is the best disinfectant\' as we say.

People who write do preserve their ideas for future generations. The Frankfurt school doesn\'t seem to have been influential, and the only people who still take them seriously seem to be right-wing lunatics like you, who imagine that they have some kind of secret influence. I\'m a bit surprised that you haven\'t told us that they were funded by George Soros. He hadn\'t been born in 1918 when the school got under way, but inconvenient details like that don\'t usually put you off.

Quite how managed you to imagine that your rabid fantasising is some kind of disinfecting sunlight is left as an exercise for the reader. You clearly can\'t tell shit from shinola, but shinola isn\'t sunshine.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On Saturday, November 7, 2020 at 9:39:57 PM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Fri, 6 Nov 2020 18:30:00 -0800 (PST), Bill Sloman
bill....@ieee.org> wrote:

Actually, nobody is. The \"Cultural Marxism\" he talks about is a right-wing invention. There were cultural Marxists once, but they died out long ago..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Marxism_conspiracy_theory

Invention? I don\'t think so, Bill.

Cursitor Doom doesn\'t think at all. He just cuts and pastes right-wing twaddle.

> It\'s all part of a long-running plot to undermine and ultimately destroy the pillars which underpin Western civilisation.

One more idiot conspiracy theory from a crew who haven\'t got a clue about the basis of Western civilisation (such as it is) and fondly imagine that their rabid lunacies are supporting it.

Here\'s a primer from your preferred source, so you won\'t be able to take issue with that aspect at least....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankfurt_School

I have posted that link here before, in reaction to your bizarre delusions in this area. It doesn\'t suggest that the Frankfurt school was all that influential, or that it had any civilisation-destroying capacity.

> These mentally-ill old cretins may be long dead, but unfortunately their poisonous ideas have survived them and \'daylight is the best disinfectant\' as we say.

Since you don\'t seem to have a clue what those \"poisonous ideas\" might have been, and certainly haven\'t detailed them anywhere, the proposition that you are revealing them - rather than making fatuous claims about their non-existent influence - is bizarre, and the idea that you \"insights\" might be some kind of disinfectant is somewhere between pathetic and fatuous.

If you want somebody to destroy the basis of western civilisation, there\'s no need to look further than Donald Trump. Benito Mussolini was an intellectual giant in comparison (and even he didn\'t make the trains run on time).

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On Sat, 7 Nov 2020 05:24:40 -0800 (PST), Bill Sloman
<bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:

On Saturday, November 7, 2020 at 9:39:57 PM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Fri, 6 Nov 2020 18:30:00 -0800 (PST), Bill Sloman
bill....@ieee.org> wrote:

Actually, nobody is. The \"Cultural Marxism\" he talks about is a right-wing invention. There were cultural Marxists once, but they died out long ago.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Marxism_conspiracy_theory

Invention? I don\'t think so, Bill.

Cursitor Doom doesn\'t think at all. He just cuts and pastes right-wing twaddle.

So Wikipedia articles are \"right-wing twaddle\" are they? You\'ve
suddenly changed your tune!

It\'s all part of a long-running plot to undermine and ultimately destroy the pillars which underpin Western civilisation.

One more idiot conspiracy theory from a crew who haven\'t got a clue about the basis of Western civilisation (such as it is) and fondly imagine that their rabid lunacies are supporting it.

Here\'s a primer from your preferred source, so you won\'t be able to take issue with that aspect at least....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankfurt_School

I have posted that link here before, in reaction to your bizarre delusions in this area. It doesn\'t suggest that the Frankfurt school was all that influential, or that it had any civilisation-destroying capacity.

I\'m going to have to take issue with you on that claim, Bill. In fact
the Frankfurt School Cultural Marxists were able to infiltrate the
entire US schools system. They got their accolytes inserted into
influential positions at Columbia University and doled out doctorate
degrees to unqualfied teaching staff who signed up to their evil
agenda and they been spreading thier insidious poison throughout the
schools since the early 1960s as *you* well know - but won\'t admit.

>Since you don\'t seem to have a clue what those \"poisonous ideas\" might have been, and certainly haven\'t detailed them anywhere, the proposition that you are revealing them - rather than making fatuous claims about their non-existent influence - is bizarre, and the idea that you \"insights\" might be some kind of disinfectant is somewhere between pathetic and fatuous.

Unlike you I\'m not that vain, Bill. I\'m simply providing pointers so
others here can do their own research. They can shine thier own
sunlight and in so doing the alarming truth of the matter will be more
impactful on them.
I can see the fact that you\'ve switched from haughty condescension to
angry insults and denials means I\'ve certainly hit a nerve with this
one. What a shame you can\'t censor me. Ha! Ha!
 
On Sat, 7 Nov 2020 07:25:40 -0800 (PST), Rickster C
<gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote:

On Saturday, November 7, 2020 at 9:31:49 AM UTC-5, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Sat, 7 Nov 2020 05:24:40 -0800 (PST), Bill Sloman
bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:

On Saturday, November 7, 2020 at 9:39:57 PM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Fri, 6 Nov 2020 18:30:00 -0800 (PST), Bill Sloman
bill....@ieee.org> wrote:

Actually, nobody is. The \"Cultural Marxism\" he talks about is a right-wing invention. There were cultural Marxists once, but they died out long ago.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Marxism_conspiracy_theory

Invention? I don\'t think so, Bill.

Cursitor Doom doesn\'t think at all. He just cuts and pastes right-wing twaddle.

So Wikipedia articles are \"right-wing twaddle\" are they? You\'ve
suddenly changed your tune!

You imbecile! The fact that Wikipedia lists it as a right wing lunatic theory doesn\'t legitimize it.

YOU are the imbecile. I never suggested any such thing! You are a
typical product of the US public schools system if ever I saw one.


>\"Today, the conspiracy theory of Marxist culture war is promoted by right-wing politicians, fundamentalist religious leaders, political commentators in mainstream print and television media and white supremacist terrorists.[6] Scholarly analysis of the >conspiracy theory has concluded that it has no basis in fact and no intellectual movement by that name.[5][7]\"

In other words: \"don\'t discuss or even mention Cultural Marxism or
we\'ll smear you as a \'white supremacist terrorist\'\" - a rather obvious
tactic to shut down anyone venturing onto the subject in a public
forum. Shame it doesn\'t work with some of us truth-seekers, isn\'t it?

Did you even read the article you linked to? No, of course not. If you actually read something you might learn something.

Of course I\'ve read it, dumbass. I\'ve also read books written by the
founders of the Frankfurt School so I know CM exists and what it\'s all
about. If it\'s all just a figment of my imagination, how do you
explain the existence of sources such as this?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Gramsci-Antonio-Edited-An-Great-and-Terrible-World-A-The-Pre-Pri-BOOK-NEW/284065637219?epid=213463976&hash=item4223a1a363:g:a9YAAOSw4DJYkv-n


You\'ve probably never even heard of Gramsci (ask Sloman, I\'m sure he
knows all about him).
 
On 2020-11-07, Cursitor Doom <cd@noreply.com> wrote:
On Sat, 7 Nov 2020 05:24:40 -0800 (PST), Bill Sloman
bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:

On Saturday, November 7, 2020 at 9:39:57 PM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Fri, 6 Nov 2020 18:30:00 -0800 (PST), Bill Sloman
bill....@ieee.org> wrote:

Actually, nobody is. The \"Cultural Marxism\" he talks about is a right-wing invention. There were cultural Marxists once, but they died out long ago.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Marxism_conspiracy_theory

Invention? I don\'t think so, Bill.

Cursitor Doom doesn\'t think at all. He just cuts and pastes right-wing twaddle.

So Wikipedia articles are \"right-wing twaddle\" are they? You\'ve
suddenly changed your tune!

wikipedia (link above)
ORIGIN:
The conspiracy theory of Marxist cultural warfare originated in the
essay \"New Dark Age: Frankfurt School and \'Political Correctness\'\"
(1992) written by Michael Minnicinno, published in the
Schiller Institute, a LaRouche movement organization journal
associated with the fringe American right-wing political activist
Lyndon LaRouche.

How does that not make it a right-wing invention?

I\'m going to have to take issue with you on that claim, Bill. In fact
the Frankfurt School Cultural Marxists were able to infiltrate the
entire US schools system. They got their accolytes inserted into
influential positions at Columbia University and doled out doctorate
degrees to unqualfied teaching staff who signed up to their evil
agenda and they been spreading thier insidious poison throughout the
schools since the early 1960s as *you* well know - but won\'t admit.

Can you sgr some eviudence of this.

Unlike you I\'m not that vain, Bill. I\'m simply providing pointers so
others here can do their own research. They can shine thier own
sunlight and in so doing the alarming truth of the matter will be more
impactful on them.

So far you\'ve only scored own goals, got any more pointers?

I can see the fact that you\'ve switched from haughty condescension to
angry insults and denials means I\'ve certainly hit a nerve with this
one. What a shame you can\'t censor me. Ha! Ha!

No it just means your claims are concrete enough to be dismissed witgh
precision.

--
Jasen.
 
On Sunday, November 8, 2020 at 1:31:49 AM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Sat, 7 Nov 2020 05:24:40 -0800 (PST), Bill Sloman
bill....@ieee.org> wrote:

On Saturday, November 7, 2020 at 9:39:57 PM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Fri, 6 Nov 2020 18:30:00 -0800 (PST), Bill Sloman
bill....@ieee.org> wrote:

Actually, nobody is. The \"Cultural Marxism\" he talks about is a right-wing invention. There were cultural Marxists once, but they died out long ago.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Marxism_conspiracy_theory

Invention? I don\'t think so, Bill.

Cursitor Doom doesn\'t think at all. He just cuts and pastes right-wing twaddle.
So Wikipedia articles are \"right-wing twaddle\" are they? You\'ve
suddenly changed your tune!
It\'s all part of a long-running plot to undermine and ultimately destroy the pillars which underpin Western civilisation.

One more idiot conspiracy theory from a crew who haven\'t got a clue about the basis of Western civilisation (such as it is) and fondly imagine that their rabid lunacies are supporting it.

Here\'s a primer from your preferred source, so you won\'t be able to take issue with that aspect at least....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankfurt_School

I have posted that link here before, in reaction to your bizarre delusions in this area. It doesn\'t suggest that the Frankfurt school was all that influential, or that it had any civilisation-destroying capacity.

I\'m going to have to take issue with you on that claim, Bill. In fact
the Frankfurt School Cultural Marxists were able to infiltrate the
entire US schools system.

Name just one of these \"infiltrated\" people.

They got their accolytes inserted into
influential positions at Columbia University and doled out doctorate
degrees to unqualfied teaching staff who signed up to their evil
agenda and they been spreading their insidious poison throughout the
schools since the early 1960s as *you* well know - but won\'t admit.

I don\'t \"know\" anything of the sort. Neither does anybody sane.

Since you don\'t seem to have a clue what those \"poisonous ideas\" might have been, and certainly haven\'t detailed them anywhere, the proposition that you are revealing them - rather than making fatuous claims about their non-existent influence - is bizarre, and the idea that you \"insights\" might be some kind of disinfectant is somewhere between pathetic and fatuous.

Unlike you I\'m not that vain, Bill. I\'m simply providing pointers so
others here can do their own research. They can shine their own
sunlight and in so doing the alarming truth of the matter will be more
impactful on them.

A list of demented right-wing web-sites would have been helpful, if this was what you thought you were doing.

> I can see the fact that you\'ve switched from haughty condescension to angry insults and denials means I\'ve certainly hit a nerve with this one. What a shame you can\'t censor me. Ha! Ha!

There\'s nothing \"angry\" about pointing out that you are a deluded twit. It\'s just more haughty condescension.

The proposition that I might be a \"a Cultural Marxist of the Trotskyite persuasion\" is a trifle bizarre, even for you. The only people who ever took \"Trotskyism\" seriously were Stalin\'s followers - after Trotsky was exiled from the Soviet Union in 1929, he was moved from Turkey to France, then on to Norway and eventually to Mexico, where he was assassinated in 1940. He doesn\'t seem to have had any contact with your \"cultural Marxists\" - he was journalist by training, not an academic. \"Trotskyist\" was a term of abuse within the Communist Party, but the kind of academic who might have self-identified as a \"Cultural Marxist\" - - I can\'t think of any, and I\'m pretty sure that you won\'t be able to name even one either - wouldn\'t have had any enthusiasm for any of Trotsky\'s political interests.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On Sunday, November 8, 2020 at 3:17:28 AM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Sat, 7 Nov 2020 07:25:40 -0800 (PST), Rickster C
gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Saturday, November 7, 2020 at 9:31:49 AM UTC-5, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Sat, 7 Nov 2020 05:24:40 -0800 (PST), Bill Sloman
bill....@ieee.org> wrote:

On Saturday, November 7, 2020 at 9:39:57 PM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Fri, 6 Nov 2020 18:30:00 -0800 (PST), Bill Sloman
bill....@ieee.org> wrote:

Actually, nobody is. The \"Cultural Marxism\" he talks about is a right-wing invention. There were cultural Marxists once, but they died out long ago.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Marxism_conspiracy_theory

Invention? I don\'t think so, Bill.

Cursitor Doom doesn\'t think at all. He just cuts and pastes right-wing twaddle.

So Wikipedia articles are \"right-wing twaddle\" are they? You\'ve suddenly changed your tune!

Posting a link to Wikipedia article isn\'t cutting and pasting. Using a phrase - \"Cultural Marxism\" - that you don\'t understand is exactly what happens when you cut and paste your arguments.

I\'ve not changed my tune - you\'ve just failed to understand what I was saying, or are pretending to do so.

You imbecile! The fact that Wikipedia lists it as a right wing lunatic theory doesn\'t legitimize it.

YOU are the imbecile. I never suggested any such thing!

Cursitor Doom was implying exactly that, but he\'s not going to admit it.

> You are a typical product of the US public schools system if ever I saw one.

A meaningless insult - if Cursitor Doom could have pointed to an actual defect in Rick C. argument, it might have had some force, but all Cursitor Doom was saying was that he he hadn\'t said what he\'d cleaqrly implied.

\"Today, the conspiracy theory of Marxist culture war is promoted by right-wing politicians, fundamentalist religious leaders, political commentators in mainstream print and television media and white supremacist terrorists..[6] Scholarly analysis of the >conspiracy theory has concluded that it has no basis in fact and no intellectual movement by that name.[5][7]\"

In other words: \"don\'t discuss or even mention Cultural Marxism or we\'ll smear you as a \'white supremacist terrorist\'\" - a rather obvious tactic to shut down anyone venturing onto the subject in a public forum. Shame it doesn\'t work with some of us truth-seekers, isn\'t it?

Cursitor Doom imagines that he can call himself a truth-seeker. Anybody who takes the Daily Mail and Russia Today seriously isn\'t some body who is seeking truth - he\'s seeking right-wing fantasies that make him feel comfortable and fit his demented delusions.

Did you even read the article you linked to? No, of course not. If you actually read something you might learn something.

Of course I\'ve read it, dumbass. I\'ve also read books written by the founders of the Frankfurt School so I know CM exists and what it\'s all about.

He\'s never named even one such book.

If it\'s all just a figment of my imagination, how do you explain the existence of sources such as this?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Gramsci-Antonio-Edited-An-Great-and-Terrible-World-A-The-Pre-Pri-BOOK-NEW/284065637219?epid=213463976&hash=item4223a1a363:g:a9YAAOSw4DJYkv-n

You\'ve probably never even heard of Gramsci (ask Sloman, I\'m sure he knows all about him).

Never heard of him. Wikipedia has.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonio_Gramsci

Left-wing political philosophers publish all sorts of nonsense. Right-wing nitwits take some of it seriously when it fits in with their current delusion.

There\'s a lively market for all kinds of nonsense. Publishers churn out \"true romance\" novels for a certain class of customer, and a different brand of nonsense for another group.

\"The Bell Curve\" sold in huge numbers, despite being toxic racist nonsense - the fact that it grossly flattered it\'s readers did help and John Larkin loved it. \"Inequality by Design\" spelled out how it has misused the data on which it claimed to be based, but didn\'t sell nearly as well. \"The Protocols of the Elders of Zion\" is still in print, despite the fact that it was nonsensical propaganda.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Protocols_of_the_Elders_of_Zion

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On Sat, 7 Nov 2020 18:28:06 -0800 (PST), Bill Sloman
<bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:


>The proposition that I might be a \"a Cultural Marxist of the Trotskyite persuasion\" is a trifle bizarre, even for you. The only people who ever took \"Trotskyism\" seriously were Stalin\'s followers - after Trotsky was exiled from the Soviet Union in 1929, he was moved from Turkey to France, then on to Norway and eventually to Mexico, where he was assassinated in 1940. He doesn\'t seem to have had any contact with your \"cultural Marxists\" - he was journalist by training, not an academic. \"Trotskyist\" was a term of abuse within the Communist Party, but the kind of academic who might have self-identified as a \"Cultural Marxist\" - - I can\'t think of any, and I\'m pretty sure that you won\'t be able to name even one either - wouldn\'t have had any enthusiasm for any of Trotsky\'s political interests..

You know perfectly well what I mean. Trotsky wanted to export the
Revolution and impose in on the entire world - by violence if
necessary. Your thinking as evidenced by your own admissions makes you
of the \"Trotskyite persuasion\" which should be obvious to anyone who
reads your nonsense. You want your own world-view exported around the
globe regardless of who might want it OR NOT.
BTW, fitting that Trotsky should die as he did: live by the sword, die
by the sword and all that. Or ice pick in this case. Still too good an
end for the likes of him.
 
On Sunday, November 8, 2020 at 10:23:22 PM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Sat, 7 Nov 2020 18:28:06 -0800 (PST), Bill Sloman
bill....@ieee.org> wrote:


The proposition that I might be a \"a Cultural Marxist of the Trotskyite persuasion\" is a trifle bizarre, even for you. The only people who ever took \"Trotskyism\" seriously were Stalin\'s followers - after Trotsky was exiled from the Soviet Union in 1929, he was moved from Turkey to France, then on to Norway and eventually to Mexico, where he was assassinated in 1940. He doesn\'t seem to have had any contact with your \"cultural Marxists\" - he was journalist by training, not an academic. \"Trotskyist\" was a term of abuse within the Communist Party, but the kind of academic who might have self-identified as a \"Cultural Marxist\" - - I can\'t think of any, and I\'m pretty sure that you won\'t be able to name even one either - wouldn\'t have had any enthusiasm for any of Trotsky\'s political interests..

You know perfectly well what I mean. Trotsky wanted to export the
Revolution and impose in on the entire world - by violence if
necessary.

That wasn\'t just Trotsky. The entire Soviet communist party was behind that particular plan. It\'s part of Karl Marx\'s \"leading role of the party\" approach. It\'s undemocratic, which is why the international socialist movement rejected it - and him - back in 1871.

> Your thinking as evidenced by your own admissions makes you of the \"Trotskyite persuasion\" which should be obvious to anyone who reads your nonsense.

Actually, I make a habit rejecting that particular approach with some enthusiasm. You don\'t seem to notice this.

> You want your own world-view exported around the globe regardless of who might want it OR NOT.

Bizarre idea. Your own world view is gullible idiocy, and you do seem enthusiastic about posting it here, which is supposed to be a discussion group about electronic design, a subject where you are about as well-informed as you are on politics.

> BTW, fitting that Trotsky should die as he did: live by the sword, die by the sword and all that. Or ice pick in this case. Still too good an end for the likes of him.

He didn\'t actually live by the sword. He was a journalist and organiser. He did a pretty good job of organising the Red Army immediately after the revolution, but mainly by persuading people to work together.

He was a revolutionary socialist, which isn\'t an an approach I think much of, but he was a whole lot more constructive than Stalin, which is rather like arguing precedence between a flea and louse, or you and Flyguy.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On Fri, 06 Nov 2020 20:18:48 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@noreply.com>
wrote:

On Fri, 6 Nov 2020 14:51:37 -0000 (UTC), John Doe
always.look@message.header> wrote:

A Third World troll constantly sticking its filthy America-hating nose
into our business...

He stuck his nose into Brexit as well. Seems to think he\'s better
informed about the affairs of a country than those who actually live
in it. Then he goes one further still and thinks he knows what\'s best
for that country\'s future, too. And it invariably involves some
variation of Marx\'s clapped-out, discredited ideology. Sloman is a
Cultural Marxist of the Trotskyite persuasion. A most unfortunate
combination. The man is too stupid to realise how much he doesn\'t know
about the world and how it really works.

Ooh the irony!

You, a foreigner poked your nose into the brexit debate.
 
On Sat, 07 Nov 2020 14:31:41 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@noreply.com>
wrote:

On Sat, 7 Nov 2020 05:24:40 -0800 (PST), Bill Sloman
bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:

On Saturday, November 7, 2020 at 9:39:57 PM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Fri, 6 Nov 2020 18:30:00 -0800 (PST), Bill Sloman
bill....@ieee.org> wrote:

Actually, nobody is. The \"Cultural Marxism\" he talks about is a right-wing invention. There were cultural Marxists once, but they died out long ago.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Marxism_conspiracy_theory

Invention? I don\'t think so, Bill.

Cursitor Doom doesn\'t think at all. He just cuts and pastes right-wing twaddle.

So Wikipedia articles are \"right-wing twaddle\" are they? You\'ve
suddenly changed your tune!

It\'s all part of a long-running plot to undermine and ultimately destroy the pillars which underpin Western civilisation.

One more idiot conspiracy theory from a crew who haven\'t got a clue about the basis of Western civilisation (such as it is) and fondly imagine that their rabid lunacies are supporting it.

Here\'s a primer from your preferred source, so you won\'t be able to take issue with that aspect at least....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankfurt_School

I have posted that link here before, in reaction to your bizarre delusions in this area. It doesn\'t suggest that the Frankfurt school was all that influential, or that it had any civilisation-destroying capacity.

I\'m going to have to take issue with you on that claim, Bill. In fact
the Frankfurt School Cultural Marxists were able to infiltrate the
entire US schools system. They got their accolytes inserted into
influential positions at Columbia University and doled out doctorate
degrees to unqualfied teaching staff who signed up to their evil
agenda and they been spreading thier insidious poison throughout the
schools since the early 1960s as *you* well know - but won\'t admit.

Since you don\'t seem to have a clue what those \"poisonous ideas\" might have been, and certainly haven\'t detailed them anywhere, the proposition that you are revealing them - rather than making fatuous claims about their non-existent influence - is bizarre, and the idea that you \"insights\" might be some kind of disinfectant is somewhere between pathetic and fatuous.

Unlike you I\'m not that vain, Bill. I\'m simply providing pointers so
others here can do their own research. They can shine thier own
sunlight and in so doing the alarming truth of the matter will be more
impactful on them.
I can see the fact that you\'ve switched from haughty condescension to
angry insults and denials means I\'ve certainly hit a nerve with this
one. What a shame you can\'t censor me. Ha! Ha!

Are you pissed again?
 
On 2020-11-06, Cursitor Doom <cd@noreply.com> wrote:
We had postal voting in local elections in the UK and it was rife for
fraudulent voting, specifically among the Muslim communities where
such corruption is endemic. I\'d have thought the US would have learned
from our experience in this regard. :-/

We _HAVE_ (still) postal voting in _ALL_ elections in the UK. Fraudulent
postal voting is not _RIFE_ - that implies a large amount.

In fact at one time there was a somewhat restrictive list of
circumstances that allowed someone to have a postal vote. Now anybody
can have one...

https://www.gov.uk/voting-in-the-uk/postal-voting
 
On 2020-11-06, Clive Arthur <clive@nowaytoday.co.uk> wrote:
On 06/11/2020 00:08, Cursitor Doom wrote:
It\'s the only way to prevent a bloodbath. Re-run it but with proper
(international if necessary) observers in place at all times during
the whole tallying up period - and NO POSTAL VOTING ALLOWED.

Big baby dwopped his wattle? Snot fair!

Not so much dwopped, as threw outa his pram with his
dummy (pacifier, I think!) :)
 
On Sun, 8 Nov 2020 18:15:52 -0000 (UTC), Jim Jackson
<jj@franjam.org.uk> wrote:

We _HAVE_ (still) postal voting in _ALL_ elections in the UK. Fraudulent
postal voting is not _RIFE_ - that implies a large amount.

As I said: RIFE


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/councillors-guilty-postal-votes-fraud-would-shame-banana-republic-5350422.html


And this is from the Independent, not some \'hard right\' newspaper you
can simply dismiss out of hand.
 
On Sun, 08 Nov 2020 17:39:08 +0000, Pomegranate Bastard
<pommyB@aol.com> wrote:

Ooh the irony!

You, a foreigner poked your nose into the brexit debate.

I\'m British you ignorant fucker.
 

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