Driver to drive?

[John Larkin]

On Sat, 04 Feb 2012 03:23:03 -0800, Hattori Hanzo
<OutintheSnow@billsbackyard.org> wrote:

On Fri, 03 Feb 2012 19:17:51 -0800, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:


Do you own any LED flashlights? Open one up and see if there are any
resistors.


Mine are not the dumb versions. The switch, and control circuit is in
the tail. That means that it takes the 4.5 volts in and correctly
controls the feed to a single, super-bright LED with 3 distinct modes.

It is so well designed that when your batteries begin to avalanche,
the second mode no longer functions precisely as designed, signaling
the operator to use the first mode or third mode, but to also prepare to
replace or recharge your cells. The 'nose' end of the battery pack gets
applied directly to the LED. The circuit and equivalent limit resistance
presented to the virtual series circuit and LED and power source resides
in the tail of the lamp and is electronic. Bike riders use similar LED
drivers units in headlights that flash (tail lights too).

I know more about LED flashlights and bike lights than a "see if there
are any resistors" dope like you ever will.

Cool. How does it actually work?


--

John Larkin, President Highland Technology Inc
www.highlandtechnology.com jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com

Precision electronic instrumentation
Picosecond-resolution Digital Delay and Pulse generators
Custom timing and laser controllers
Photonics and fiberoptic TTL data links
VME analog, thermocouple, LVDT, synchro, tachometer
Multichannel arbitrary waveform generators

 

[Hattori Hanzo]

On Sat, 04 Feb 2012 10:37:19 -0800, John Larkin
<jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Sat, 04 Feb 2012 03:23:03 -0800, Hattori Hanzo
OutintheSnow@billsbackyard.org> wrote:

On Fri, 03 Feb 2012 19:17:51 -0800, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:


Do you own any LED flashlights? Open one up and see if there are any
resistors.


Mine are not the dumb versions. The switch, and control circuit is in
the tail. That means that it takes the 4.5 volts in and correctly
controls the feed to a single, super-bright LED with 3 distinct modes.

It is so well designed that when your batteries begin to avalanche,
the second mode no longer functions precisely as designed, signaling
the operator to use the first mode or third mode, but to also prepare to
replace or recharge your cells. The 'nose' end of the battery pack gets
applied directly to the LED. The circuit and equivalent limit resistance
presented to the virtual series circuit and LED and power source resides
in the tail of the lamp and is electronic. Bike riders use similar LED
drivers units in headlights that flash (tail lights too).

I know more about LED flashlights and bike lights than a "see if there
are any resistors" dope like you ever will.

Cool. How does it actually work?

It is beyond your grasp, resistor boy.

Go read your degreaser manual.

 

[John Larkin]

On Sat, 04 Feb 2012 10:54:57 -0800, Hattori Hanzo
<OutintheSnow@billsbackyard.org> wrote:

On Sat, 04 Feb 2012 10:37:19 -0800, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Sat, 04 Feb 2012 03:23:03 -0800, Hattori Hanzo
OutintheSnow@billsbackyard.org> wrote:

On Fri, 03 Feb 2012 19:17:51 -0800, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:


Do you own any LED flashlights? Open one up and see if there are any
resistors.


Mine are not the dumb versions. The switch, and control circuit is in
the tail. That means that it takes the 4.5 volts in and correctly
controls the feed to a single, super-bright LED with 3 distinct modes.

It is so well designed that when your batteries begin to avalanche,
the second mode no longer functions precisely as designed, signaling
the operator to use the first mode or third mode, but to also prepare to
replace or recharge your cells. The 'nose' end of the battery pack gets
applied directly to the LED. The circuit and equivalent limit resistance
presented to the virtual series circuit and LED and power source resides
in the tail of the lamp and is electronic. Bike riders use similar LED
drivers units in headlights that flash (tail lights too).

I know more about LED flashlights and bike lights than a "see if there
are any resistors" dope like you ever will.

Cool. How does it actually work?

It is beyond your grasp, resistor boy.

I think all you know about that flashlight is how to push the button
on the end.


--

John Larkin, President Highland Technology Inc
www.highlandtechnology.com jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com

Precision electronic instrumentation
Picosecond-resolution Digital Delay and Pulse generators
Custom timing and laser controllers
Photonics and fiberoptic TTL data links
VME analog, thermocouple, LVDT, synchro, tachometer
Multichannel arbitrary waveform generators

 

[John S]

On 2/4/2012 1:16 PM, John Larkin wrote:

On Sat, 04 Feb 2012 10:54:57 -0800, Hattori Hanzo
OutintheSnow@billsbackyard.org> wrote:

On Sat, 04 Feb 2012 10:37:19 -0800, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Sat, 04 Feb 2012 03:23:03 -0800, Hattori Hanzo
OutintheSnow@billsbackyard.org> wrote:

On Fri, 03 Feb 2012 19:17:51 -0800, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:


Do you own any LED flashlights? Open one up and see if there are any
resistors.


Mine are not the dumb versions. The switch, and control circuit is in
the tail. That means that it takes the 4.5 volts in and correctly
controls the feed to a single, super-bright LED with 3 distinct modes.

It is so well designed that when your batteries begin to avalanche,
the second mode no longer functions precisely as designed, signaling
the operator to use the first mode or third mode, but to also prepare to
replace or recharge your cells. The 'nose' end of the battery pack gets
applied directly to the LED. The circuit and equivalent limit resistance
presented to the virtual series circuit and LED and power source resides
in the tail of the lamp and is electronic. Bike riders use similar LED
drivers units in headlights that flash (tail lights too).

I know more about LED flashlights and bike lights than a "see if there
are any resistors" dope like you ever will.

Cool. How does it actually work?

It is beyond your grasp, resistor boy.

I think all you know about that flashlight is how to push the button
on the end.

You give him way too much credit, John.

 

[Hattori Hanzo]

On Sat, 04 Feb 2012 11:16:56 -0800, John Larkin
<jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

I think all you know about that

degreaser is that your employees use it, not you. The reason is because
even that simple device is beyond your understanding.

So you are not going to understand the drive circuit in my LED lamp.

Hell, it took you nearly a decade to figure out how to add a pathetic,
self aggrandizing sig to your pathetic, abusive posts.

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

John Larkin wrote:

I think all you know about that flashlight is how to push the button
on the end.

He knows how to push your buttons.


--
You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense.

 

[Jamie]

Hattori Hanzo wrote:

On Sat, 04 Feb 2012 10:37:19 -0800, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:


On Sat, 04 Feb 2012 03:23:03 -0800, Hattori Hanzo
OutintheSnow@billsbackyard.org> wrote:


On Fri, 03 Feb 2012 19:17:51 -0800, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:


Do you own any LED flashlights? Open one up and see if there are any
resistors.


Mine are not the dumb versions. The switch, and control circuit is in
the tail. That means that it takes the 4.5 volts in and correctly
controls the feed to a single, super-bright LED with 3 distinct modes.

It is so well designed that when your batteries begin to avalanche,
the second mode no longer functions precisely as designed, signaling
the operator to use the first mode or third mode, but to also prepare to
replace or recharge your cells. The 'nose' end of the battery pack gets
applied directly to the LED. The circuit and equivalent limit resistance
presented to the virtual series circuit and LED and power source resides
in the tail of the lamp and is electronic. Bike riders use similar LED
drivers units in headlights that flash (tail lights too).

I know more about LED flashlights and bike lights than a "see if there
are any resistors" dope like you ever will.

Cool. How does it actually work?


It is beyond your grasp, resistor boy.

Go read your degreaser manual.
In other words, you don't know?

Jamie

 

[John Fields]

On Fri, 03 Feb 2012 17:32:24 -0800, John Larkin
<jlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

On Fri, 03 Feb 2012 18:59:44 -0600, John Fields
jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:

On Thu, 02 Feb 2012 19:49:41 -0800, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Thu, 02 Feb 2012 19:38:06 -0600, John Fields
jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:

On Sun, 29 Jan 2012 14:27:45 -0800, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Sun, 29 Jan 2012 15:33:40 -0600, John Fields
jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:

On Sun, 29 Jan 2012 12:18:40 -0800, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Sun, 29 Jan 2012 13:53:22 -0600, John Fields
jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:

On Sun, 29 Jan 2012 10:18:28 -0800, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Sun, 29 Jan 2012 10:44:58 -0600, John Fields
jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:


I've got a vanilla 1N4148 on the bench with 1.0000 mA through it and
0.618 V across it, so what do you think will happen if I double the
voltage across it?

Something like 350 mA. But there's a lot of variation between
different manufacturers' parts.

What did you measure?

---
712mA.
---

---
Snipped irrelevant pontificating.

Electronics is irrelevant to you?

---
No, irrelevant pontificating about it is.
---

The LT Spice model for the 1N4148 has an Rs value of 0.568 ohms, which
looks a tad low to me.

---
Assuming 750mA puts it into the linear region, then Rs = Vf/If ~ 1.7
ohms, so I agree.

That's the static resistance. A more useful value is dV/dI, the slope
of the curve in the linear region.

---
Since there will always be a disparity between minority and majority
carriers in the mix, and charge will be shared between them, there can
never be a linear region.

Except, perhaps, for the fleeting moment when the TC across the
junction equals zero.
---

That's the Spice 0.568 value. The
value from several 1N4148 data sheets is more like 0.7 ohms.

---
Maximum, at If(nom) or, perhaps, at If(max).

Do you have some real data to support your position or are you just
looking to blame LTspice for your failings?
---

How's that for a first?

LT Spice shows 0.64 amps at 1.236 volts. Most diode data sheets show
about half that current.

---
Most 1N4148 data sheets show the drop across the diode with up to a
couple of hundred milliamps through it, so what are you talking about?


You don't actually care about diodes, you just want something to whine
about.

---
Nonsense.

Whenever I checkmate you, and you realize you've lost, you sidestep,
pretending you have moves left which you don't, in order to prolong
the knell of your death bell and hope for a miracle to save you.

Checkmate? Save me? How pathetic.

You are raving again, in really corny stilted prose, and it's not
about diodes.


To 500 mA:

http://www.nxp.com/documents/data_sheet/1N4148_1N4448.pdf


To 800 mA:

http://www.fairchildsemi.com/ds/1N/1N4148.pdf


~~800 mA:

http://www.vishay.com/docs/81857/1n4148.pdf


which you could have found yourself in a couple of minutes if you were
interested in diodes. But you'd rather whine and strut and cluck.

---
Actually, I did peruse two of those sites and found that with the
voltage drop across the diode, at the currents you mentioned, both
cases resulted in real-world power dissipation in excess of the limits
allowed.

In addition, the Fairchild site which, in figure 5, clearly plots the
ordinate in millivolts, is wrong.

Apparently not having noticed that, I suspect you'll now make excuses
and bitch on forever about how unimportant accuracy is.

--
JF

 

[John Larkin]

On Sat, 04 Feb 2012 19:03:59 -0600, John Fields
<jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:

On Fri, 03 Feb 2012 17:32:24 -0800, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

On Fri, 03 Feb 2012 18:59:44 -0600, John Fields
jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:

On Thu, 02 Feb 2012 19:49:41 -0800, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Thu, 02 Feb 2012 19:38:06 -0600, John Fields
jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:

On Sun, 29 Jan 2012 14:27:45 -0800, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Sun, 29 Jan 2012 15:33:40 -0600, John Fields
jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:

On Sun, 29 Jan 2012 12:18:40 -0800, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Sun, 29 Jan 2012 13:53:22 -0600, John Fields
jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:

On Sun, 29 Jan 2012 10:18:28 -0800, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Sun, 29 Jan 2012 10:44:58 -0600, John Fields
jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:


I've got a vanilla 1N4148 on the bench with 1.0000 mA through it and
0.618 V across it, so what do you think will happen if I double the
voltage across it?

Something like 350 mA. But there's a lot of variation between
different manufacturers' parts.

What did you measure?

---
712mA.
---

---
Snipped irrelevant pontificating.

Electronics is irrelevant to you?

---
No, irrelevant pontificating about it is.
---

The LT Spice model for the 1N4148 has an Rs value of 0.568 ohms, which
looks a tad low to me.

---
Assuming 750mA puts it into the linear region, then Rs = Vf/If ~ 1.7
ohms, so I agree.

That's the static resistance. A more useful value is dV/dI, the slope
of the curve in the linear region.

---
Since there will always be a disparity between minority and majority
carriers in the mix, and charge will be shared between them, there can
never be a linear region.

Except, perhaps, for the fleeting moment when the TC across the
junction equals zero.
---

That's the Spice 0.568 value. The
value from several 1N4148 data sheets is more like 0.7 ohms.

---
Maximum, at If(nom) or, perhaps, at If(max).

Do you have some real data to support your position or are you just
looking to blame LTspice for your failings?
---

How's that for a first?

LT Spice shows 0.64 amps at 1.236 volts. Most diode data sheets show
about half that current.

---
Most 1N4148 data sheets show the drop across the diode with up to a
couple of hundred milliamps through it, so what are you talking about?


You don't actually care about diodes, you just want something to whine
about.

---
Nonsense.

Whenever I checkmate you, and you realize you've lost, you sidestep,
pretending you have moves left which you don't, in order to prolong
the knell of your death bell and hope for a miracle to save you.

Checkmate? Save me? How pathetic.

You are raving again, in really corny stilted prose, and it's not
about diodes.


To 500 mA:

http://www.nxp.com/documents/data_sheet/1N4148_1N4448.pdf


To 800 mA:

http://www.fairchildsemi.com/ds/1N/1N4148.pdf


~~800 mA:

http://www.vishay.com/docs/81857/1n4148.pdf


which you could have found yourself in a couple of minutes if you were
interested in diodes. But you'd rather whine and strut and cluck.

---
Actually, I did peruse two of those sites and found that with the
voltage drop across the diode, at the currents you mentioned, both
cases resulted in real-world power dissipation in excess of the limits
allowed.

Now you are weaseling.

In addition, the Fairchild site which, in figure 5, clearly plots the
ordinate in millivolts, is wrong.

Apparently not having noticed that, I suspect you'll now make excuses
and bitch on forever about how unimportant accuracy is.

It's not a matter of "accuracy", it's an obvious typo. The axis is
obviously volts.


--

John Larkin, President Highland Technology Inc
www.highlandtechnology.com jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com

Precision electronic instrumentation
Picosecond-resolution Digital Delay and Pulse generators
Custom timing and laser controllers
Photonics and fiberoptic TTL data links
VME analog, thermocouple, LVDT, synchro, tachometer
Multichannel arbitrary waveform generators

 

[josephkk]

On 02 Feb 2012 05:40:57 GMT, John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> wrote:

You missed the point, moron.

On 01 Feb 2012 16:50:17 GMT, John Doe <jdoe usenetlove.invalid> wrote:

Bwahahahah. This is Usenet twit. If you can find it you are invited by
definition.

Nobody invited you to this thread.

"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell earthlink.net> wrote:

Snip

What in the hell makes you think you had one to miss?

 

[John Fields]

On Sat, 04 Feb 2012 18:08:32 -0800, John Larkin
<jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Sat, 04 Feb 2012 19:03:59 -0600, John Fields
jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:

Actually, I did peruse two of those sites and found that with the
voltage drop across the diode, at the currents you mentioned, both
cases resulted in real-world power dissipation in excess of the limits
allowed.

Now you are weaseling.

---
Nope, just stating a fact.
---

In addition, the Fairchild site which, in figure 5, clearly plots the
ordinate in millivolts, is wrong.

Apparently not having noticed that, I suspect you'll now make excuses
and bitch on forever about how unimportant accuracy is.

It's not a matter of "accuracy", it's an obvious typo. The axis is
obviously volts.

---
If the axis was correctly annotated, would that not be more accurate
than if it were annotated incorrectly?

--
JF

 

[John Larkin]

On Sun, 05 Feb 2012 10:24:56 -0600, John Fields
<jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:

On Sat, 04 Feb 2012 18:08:32 -0800, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Sat, 04 Feb 2012 19:03:59 -0600, John Fields
jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:



Actually, I did peruse two of those sites and found that with the
voltage drop across the diode, at the currents you mentioned, both
cases resulted in real-world power dissipation in excess of the limits
allowed.

Now you are weaseling.

---
Nope, just stating a fact.
---

In addition, the Fairchild site which, in figure 5, clearly plots the
ordinate in millivolts, is wrong.

Apparently not having noticed that, I suspect you'll now make excuses
and bitch on forever about how unimportant accuracy is.

It's not a matter of "accuracy", it's an obvious typo. The axis is
obviously volts.

---
If the axis was correctly annotated, would that not be more accurate
than if it were annotated incorrectly?

The y-axis on that fig 5 graph is obviously volts, and the "m" is
obviously a typo. Given that, there's no accuracy problem. My job is
to design stuff, not freeze in my tracks at the slightest excuse.

If you look at a smattering of 1N4148 data sheets, there's a huge
spread of I-V curves. So I certainly wouldn't design a circuit that
depends on the high-current I-V curve without making sure we'd
purchase only one vendors's parts, and even then it would be risky. I
wouldn't depend on their capacitance or reverse leakage behavior,
either. 1N4148 is a very sloppy part.

All of which is aside from the issue of paralleling LEDs, which lots
of people seem to do.


--

John Larkin, President Highland Technology Inc
www.highlandtechnology.com jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com

Precision electronic instrumentation
Picosecond-resolution Digital Delay and Pulse generators
Custom timing and laser controllers
Photonics and fiberoptic TTL data links
VME analog, thermocouple, LVDT, synchro, tachometer
Multichannel arbitrary waveform generators

 

[John Larkin]

On Sat, 04 Feb 2012 11:46:35 -0800, Hattori Hanzo
<OutintheSnow@billsbackyard.org> wrote:

On Sat, 04 Feb 2012 11:16:56 -0800, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

I think all you know about that

degreaser is that your employees use it, not you. The reason is because
even that simple device is beyond your understanding.

So you are not going to understand the drive circuit in my LED lamp.

Cool, let's talk about that:


OK, you have your super multimode Wal-Mart LED flashlight, maybe with
optional laser pointer. The question is, how does it regulate the LED
current? Inductive boost? Capacitive charge pump? Resistor? Linear or
PWM current-regulator IC? Raw battery connected to LEDs?

You could take it apart and see what's inside. Or you could search the
web for controller ICs. Or, more fun, you could learn some things
about the issue without opening the flashlight at all.

Any ideas how?


--

John Larkin, President Highland Technology Inc
www.highlandtechnology.com jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com

Precision electronic instrumentation
Picosecond-resolution Digital Delay and Pulse generators
Custom timing and laser controllers
Photonics and fiberoptic TTL data links
VME analog, thermocouple, LVDT, synchro, tachometer
Multichannel arbitrary waveform generators

 

[John Larkin]

On Sat, 04 Feb 2012 17:18:04 -0500, Jamie
<jamie_ka1lpa_not_valid_after_ka1lpa_@charter.net> wrote:

Hattori Hanzo wrote:
On Sat, 04 Feb 2012 10:37:19 -0800, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:


On Sat, 04 Feb 2012 03:23:03 -0800, Hattori Hanzo
OutintheSnow@billsbackyard.org> wrote:


On Fri, 03 Feb 2012 19:17:51 -0800, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:


Do you own any LED flashlights? Open one up and see if there are any
resistors.


Mine are not the dumb versions. The switch, and control circuit is in
the tail. That means that it takes the 4.5 volts in and correctly
controls the feed to a single, super-bright LED with 3 distinct modes.

It is so well designed that when your batteries begin to avalanche,
the second mode no longer functions precisely as designed, signaling
the operator to use the first mode or third mode, but to also prepare to
replace or recharge your cells. The 'nose' end of the battery pack gets
applied directly to the LED. The circuit and equivalent limit resistance
presented to the virtual series circuit and LED and power source resides
in the tail of the lamp and is electronic. Bike riders use similar LED
drivers units in headlights that flash (tail lights too).

I know more about LED flashlights and bike lights than a "see if there
are any resistors" dope like you ever will.

Cool. How does it actually work?


It is beyond your grasp, resistor boy.

Go read your degreaser manual.
In other words, you don't know?

Jamie

I don't know either. He should tell us how his flashlight regulates
current. Or, if he doesn't know (which he doesn't) he could do a
little work to find out, and tell us. Which he won't.


--

John Larkin, President Highland Technology Inc
www.highlandtechnology.com jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com

Precision electronic instrumentation
Picosecond-resolution Digital Delay and Pulse generators
Custom timing and laser controllers
Photonics and fiberoptic TTL data links
VME analog, thermocouple, LVDT, synchro, tachometer
Multichannel arbitrary waveform generators

 

[Bart!]

On Sun, 05 Feb 2012 09:44:44 -0800, John Larkin
<jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

OK, you have your super multimode Wal-Mart LED flashlight,

What is this another attempt at a social insult?

Fuck off and DIE, John Larkin. You are a sad excuse for a civil,
intelligent man. That may well mean that you qualify for none of the
three titles. Likely even. You are worse, in fact, than Ross Perot could
have ever been. And his remarks were not racist. It was just a poor
choice of words. You actually were trying to be insulting. Big
difference.

It means that a real, intelligent man like Ross has more honor and
character than an insulting, pathetic, self aggrandizing piece of shit
like you ever will.

 

[krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz]

On Sun, 05 Feb 2012 10:43:46 -0800, Bart! <B@rt_The_Sheriff_Is_A_Nig***!.org>
wrote:

On Sun, 05 Feb 2012 09:44:44 -0800, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:



OK, you have your super multimode Wal-Mart LED flashlight,

What is this another attempt at a social insult?

Interesting that you would take a slight of a *flashlight* as such a personal
insult....

Fuck off and DIE, John Larkin. You are a sad excuse for a civil,
intelligent man. That may well mean that you qualify for none of the
three titles. Likely even. You are worse, in fact, than Ross Perot could
have ever been. And his remarks were not racist. It was just a poor
choice of words. You actually were trying to be insulting. Big
difference.

It means that a real, intelligent man like Ross has more honor and
character than an insulting, pathetic, self aggrandizing piece of shit
like you ever will.

....it's like he was insulting your manhood. You certainly respond as such. I
wonder what Freud would have to say?

 

[Bart!]

On Sun, 05 Feb 2012 09:44:44 -0800, John Larkin
<jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

The question is, how does it regulate the LED
current?

A simple ditz like you wouldn't know.

Inductive boost? Capacitive charge pump? Resistor? Linear or
PWM current-regulator IC? Raw battery connected to LEDs?

Think about cost, idiot.

You could take it apart and see what's inside.

Here we go with retarded primer boy, on his retarded primer boy soap
box... again.

Or you could search the
web for controller ICs. Or, more fun, you could learn some things
about the issue without opening the flashlight at all.

Any ideas how?

It's a 555 timer circuit, you fucking retard. Even when it appears to
be "full on",it is really being pulsed. It is detectable at night.

A fucking retarded punk like you deserves no further information.

 

[Bart!]

On Sun, 05 Feb 2012 09:47:40 -0800, John Larkin
<jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

I don't know either.

The first time you have spoken the truth in this group in quite some
time.

He should tell us how his flashlight regulates
current.

I would, but only if it is MY desire, you pathetic, cringing little
milksop.

Or, if he doesn't know (which he doesn't)

Back to the lying horseshit behavior already, I see. There was a time
when a man would simply drop you where you stand for pathetic, uncivil
behavior like that. That is where the Colt motto came from.

he could do a
little work to find out,

You are an idiot.

and tell us. Which he won't.

For all you know, utilization of LEDs is what will make me rich.

Fact is, you don't know a goddamned thing, you pathetic, characterless,
honorless piece of shit.

 

[Bart!]

On Sun, 05 Feb 2012 13:49:11 -0500, "krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz"
<krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> wrote:

Interesting that you would take a slight of a *flashlight* as such a personal
insult....

You are too retarded to know what I was referring to as being an
insult, much less an insult to whom, which is obvious since you didn't
catch the remainder of the reference.

Essentially, you are almost as big an idiot as he is, except yours is a
senility thing. Before that, it was a stupid fucktard thing. His is a
sub-human thing.

 

[Jamie]

Bart! wrote:

On Sun, 05 Feb 2012 09:47:40 -0800, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:


I don't know either.



The first time you have spoken the truth in this group in quite some
time.

You mean it is the first time you have understood comments made from
JL in a long time?

He should tell us how his flashlight regulates
current.


I would, but only if it is MY desire, you pathetic, cringing little
milksop.

I am sure it would be your desire to do so, if you only knew, and then
most likely would be a case where we wouldn't be able to shut you up!

Or, if he doesn't know (which he doesn't)



Back to the lying horseshit behavior already, I see. There was a time
when a man would simply drop you where you stand for pathetic, uncivil
behavior like that. That is where the Colt motto came from.

And there were and still is, times where the pen is mightier than the sword.

he could do a
little work to find out,


You are an idiot.

Yes, how shameful of him to make such rude remarks about you doing work!

and tell us. Which he won't.



For all you know, utilization of LEDs is what will make me rich.

Well, there is a sucker born in every crowd. I am sure with your
skills you'll be able to find some. Most people tend to hang with their
own kind.

Fact is, you don't know a goddamned thing, you pathetic, characterless,
honorless piece of shit.

He may appear to you to be character less in your eyes, but I believe
that would be due to lack of time on his part, wasting such traits to
pamper the likes of you.


Have a good day, I am sure i'll be next on the list.

Jamie