Driver to drive?

[Chiron]

On Wed, 01 Feb 2012 11:47:17 -0500, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

<snip>

You do know that if complaints had any effect, the entire Usenet would
have lost their accounts years ago? Just sayin'


Sometimes they do. I managed to cost a stalker three consecutive ISP
accounts, and he hasn't bothered anyone on that newsgroup, since.

Well, you've done better than anyone I know. For all the good it seems
to do, you might as well send your complaints to /dev/null.

If a person kept having his accounts closed, though, it might teach them
some manners...



--
File cabinet:
A four drawer, manually activated trash compactor.

 

[John Doe]

An incessant liar.

Chiron <chiron613 gmail.com> wrote:

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From: Chiron <chiron613 gmail.com
Subject: Re: Simple way to bind wires, without ties
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On Wed, 01 Feb 2012 11:47:17 -0500, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

snip

You do know that if complaints had any effect, the entire Usenet would
have lost their accounts years ago? Just sayin'


Sometimes they do. I managed to cost a stalker three consecutive ISP
accounts, and he hasn't bothered anyone on that newsgroup, since.

Well, you've done better than anyone I know. For all the good it seems
to do, you might as well send your complaints to /dev/null.

If a person kept having his accounts closed, though, it might teach them
some manners...



--
File cabinet:
A four drawer, manually activated trash compactor.

 

[Jamie]

Lord Valve wrote:

John Doe wrote:


I can't imagine why anyone who flails so much would flatter
himself as a scientist.


I'm not a scientist, I'm just an old dude with 50+ years of experience in the audio field.

I'm sorry, Squirt, but roadies have been using
"your" method to secure cables for decades.

Hell, I saw wires tied up like that at Woodstock.
I'd have taken some pictures if I'd known it was
going to be a bone of contention 43 years later,
but I was busy smoking dope and trying to bang
this hippie chick at the time.

If you looked around hard enough, you may have seen me doing that
dirty deed for yea! I was a little young but was there.

Perhaps your time might be more profitably
spent "inventing" something else? Just a
thought...

The problem with the young these days are they want to be
the chief before an indian.

Jamie

 

[John Doe]

Jamie <jamie_ka1lpa_not_valid_after_ka1lpa_ charter.net> wrote:

The problem with the young these days are they want to be the
chief before an indian.

Old people with any responsibility should be aware of the fact
that young people are swamped with information. The way they learn
will be different than prior generations. The floodgates are open.
Learning skills required will be more like the ability to filter
information that they don't need or that might even be harmful.
The current generation is not like "my kid is learning algebra at
an early age".

If you think that what you have learned is a big deal, you should
think again. Kids that survive in this time are going to be
extremely intelligent. Simple knowledge is not valuable, for that
reason.

--

Jamie

 

[beryl]

On 02/01/2012 01:20 PM, Chiron wrote:

On Wed, 01 Feb 2012 11:47:17 -0500, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

snip

You do know that if complaints had any effect, the entire Usenet would
have lost their accounts years ago? Just sayin'


Sometimes they do. I managed to cost a stalker three consecutive ISP
accounts, and he hasn't bothered anyone on that newsgroup, since.

Well, you've done better than anyone I know. For all the good it seems
to do, you might as well send your complaints to /dev/null.

I complained to Roadrunner abuse dept. about one of their users, and I
included the offender's full message headers because I knew they'd need
that.

They wrote back requesting that I send them the message headers,
so I replied and included them again.

Then Roadrunner wrote back again, telling me that I needed to supply
them the message headers ...
I replied, reminding them that I'd been including the headers every
time, and here they are once again.

And Roadrunner wrote back again, telling me that I needed to supply them
the message headers ...
My last email told them that I was through wasting my time with them.

 

[Jamie]

beryl wrote:

On 02/01/2012 01:20 PM, Chiron wrote:

On Wed, 01 Feb 2012 11:47:17 -0500, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

snip


You do know that if complaints had any effect, the entire Usenet would
have lost their accounts years ago? Just sayin'



Sometimes they do. I managed to cost a stalker three consecutive
ISP
accounts, and he hasn't bothered anyone on that newsgroup, since.


Well, you've done better than anyone I know. For all the good it seems
to do, you might as well send your complaints to /dev/null.


I complained to Roadrunner abuse dept. about one of their users, and I
included the offender's full message headers because I knew they'd need
that.

They wrote back requesting that I send them the message headers,
so I replied and included them again.

Then Roadrunner wrote back again, telling me that I needed to supply
them the message headers ...
I replied, reminding them that I'd been including the headers every
time, and here they are once again.

And Roadrunner wrote back again, telling me that I needed to supply them
the message headers ...
My last email told them that I was through wasting my time with them.
Path: not-for-mail

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On 02/01/2012 01:20 PM, Chiron wrote:

On Wed, 01 Feb 2012 11:47:17 -0500, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

like this?

And If I noticed the useless Terrell in this body I would not have
bothered to do this, but since I have gone this far..

Jamie

 

[beryl]

On 02/01/2012 03:29 PM, Jamie wrote:

beryl wrote:
....
I complained to Roadrunner abuse dept. about one of their users, and I
included the offender's full message headers because I knew they'd
need that.

Path: not-for-mail
From: beryl <fourl@rd.net
Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design,sci.electronics.basics
Subject: Re: Simple way to bind wires, without ties
Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2012 15:20:13 -0800
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Message-ID: <jgchbf$hq6$1@speranza.aioe.org
snip
like this?

Yep, copied and pasted a block resembling that.
Got canned responses in return, they never bothered to read any of it.

 

[Chiron]

On Wed, 01 Feb 2012 15:20:13 -0800, beryl wrote:

<snip>

I complained to Roadrunner abuse dept. about one of their users, and I
included the offender's full message headers because I knew they'd need
that.

They wrote back requesting that I send them the message headers, so I
replied and included them again.

Then Roadrunner wrote back again, telling me that I needed to supply
them the message headers ...
I replied, reminding them that I'd been including the headers every
time, and here they are once again.

And Roadrunner wrote back again, telling me that I needed to supply them
the message headers ...
My last email told them that I was through wasting my time with them.

I got into a similar loop with some ISP - don't recall which one, but it
was a big one. They kept sending me automated responses, asking for
material (the same material) I kept sending them. Highly annoying. I'm
not sure if they just set it up sloppily, or whether it was a simple way
to give an appearance of doing something, without actually having to do
anything. But I quickly learned that it wasn't worth the hassle.

However, some people apparently have managed to get a response. Good for
them.


--
Think big. Pollute the Mississippi.

 

[Jamie]

beryl wrote:

On 02/01/2012 03:29 PM, Jamie wrote:

beryl wrote:

...

I complained to Roadrunner abuse dept. about one of their users, and I
included the offender's full message headers because I knew they'd
need that.


Path: not-for-mail
From: beryl <fourl@rd.net
Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design,sci.electronics.basics
Subject: Re: Simple way to bind wires, without ties
Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2012 15:20:13 -0800
Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server
Lines: 30
Message-ID: <jgchbf$hq6$1@speranza.aioe.org

snip

like this?


Yep, copied and pasted a block resembling that.
Got canned responses in return, they never bothered to read any of it.
Because you got canned returns does not mean they are ignoring you. The

system maybe automating the complants into a compliled reference until
it reaches to a level to trigger a human repsonse.

Jamie

 

[krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz]

On Wed, 01 Feb 2012 05:55:23 -0500, JW <none@dev.null> wrote:

On Tue, 31 Jan 2012 19:58:16 -0500 "krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz"
krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> wrote in Message id:
hc3hi7tu2jb56ti9922bjfkds1mr96tpgm@4ax.com>:

On Tue, 31 Jan 2012 06:18:19 -0500, JW <none@dev.null> wrote:

On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 22:32:49 -0500 "krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz"
krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> wrote in Message id:
3rnei7lerlb7f7s6k744pjamtvp1skcs8f@4ax.com>:

On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 19:18:41 -0800 (PST), George Herold
gherold@teachspin.com> wrote:

[...]

No, the worst thing about tant. caps is they get put in bakcwards*,

*MANY* moons ago, my boss was the Tantalum Cap Tzar for the corporation (how
he got that "distinction", I haven't the foggiest). We were having all sorts
of problems with fires caused by tants in backwards. Everything was tried,
three pins (-+-), four pins (-++-), big lead/little lead, fuses, everything.
No matter what, something like 1% of them got stuck in backwards (even to the
point that when all else went right 1% were in the tubes backwards).

One day the manager of the local manufacturing/stuffing department called
complaining that his "girls" were getting sore thumbs from sticking the
capacitors into the boards. Yep, they were big/little lead caps and they were
trying really hard to put the big lead in the little hole. They'd done a few
thousand that way.

I'd like to see them put these in backwards:
http://www.vishay.com/docs/40044/299d.pdf

That's sorta the "three pin" cap I was referring to above. These were
"tombstone" variety, but the idea is the same.

Even AlwaysWrong couldn't screw up with those.

Don't bet on it. Get them one position off, and what do you have? BTW, our
boards had a hole every .100" (or .125", depending on the technology in use).

Oh. That would be a deal killer then. For those to work, you'd need a
reasonable area around the cap with no vias.

That's why we also had the 4-pin caps (-++-). If they're off a hole there was
a direct short, which was easily found.

 

[John Doe]

Chiron <chiron613 gmail.com> wrote:

beryl wrote:

snip

I complained to Roadrunner abuse dept. about one of their
users, and I included the offender's full message headers
because I knew they'd need that.

They wrote back requesting that I send them the message
headers, so I replied and included them again.

Then Roadrunner wrote back again, telling me that I needed to
supply them the message headers ... I replied, reminding them
that I'd been including the headers every time, and here they
are once again.

And Roadrunner wrote back again, telling me that I needed to
supply them the message headers ... My last email told them
that I was through wasting my time with them.


I got into a similar loop with some ISP - don't recall which
one, but it was a big one. They kept sending me automated
responses, asking for material (the same material) I kept
sending them. Highly annoying. I'm not sure if they just set
it up sloppily, or whether it was a simple way to give an
appearance of doing something, without actually having to do
anything. But I quickly learned that it wasn't worth the
hassle.

However, some people apparently have managed to get a response.
Good for them.

Roadrunner is the only ISP I have ever heard of that censored its
own users. Roadrunner no longer serves UseNet. They have to obey
court orders, but real news servers don't care about netcop
wannabes.

 

[VelCrowPhly]

On 01 Feb 2012 15:52:15 GMT, John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> wrote:

A naďve netcop wannabe.

I only hope that when they DO yank your account, it costs you an entire
year of access payout, because when they DO yank it, and they will, you
will get NO refund whatsoever. You may even be sued.

Have a nice life asshole! Better yet, go jump off a tall bridge and
have a nice death, dumbfuck.

 

[BarnCat]

On 01 Feb 2012 16:50:17 GMT, John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> wrote:

Nobody invited you to this thread.

You really are a total Usenet retard.

 

[BarnCat]

On 01 Feb 2012 16:57:56 GMT, John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> wrote:

I have a picture page.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/27532210@N04/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/27532210 N04/

There you will find...

That some dumbfuck named Jake is a complete and utter retard!

 

[Bart!]

On 01 Feb 2012 17:02:33 GMT, John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> wrote:

I can't imagine why anyone who flails so much would flatter
himself as a scientist.

Flailing?

The irony meter just blew up!

You are a goddamned, Usenet newsgroup abusing, criminal level bastard.
And that's about it.

 

[Booong... Bum, Bum, Bum,]

On Wed, 01 Feb 2012 10:14:52 -0700, Lord Valve <detritus@ix.netcom.com>
wrote:

I'm sorry, Squirt, but roadies have been using
"your" method to secure cables for decades.

The idiot has obviously never worked in home construction.

If you want a 100 foot power cord laid out fat, you tie the whole cord
up into slip knots.

Even that is an order of magnitude more intelligent than this dumb
fucktard doing it with cords that are not even ten feet long!

True hilarity!

 

[Mark Datter]

On Wed, 01 Feb 2012 10:24:46 -0800, beryl <fourl@rd.net> wrote:

MassiveWrong wrote:
On Tue, 31 Jan 2012 21:23:05 -0800, beryl<fourl@rd.net> wrote:

On 01/31/2012 08:11 PM, John Larkin wrote:
On Tue, 31 Jan 2012 19:30:04 -0800, beryl<fourl@rd.net> wrote:
...
He has to weigh in on EVERYthing. Would be an asset if he really were
AlwaysWrong but, often as not, he's right.

Uh, when?

For instance, he just confirmed that often as not he's right.


That is not exactly what I did.

Hey, you did it again.

Ok. So if I say fuck off and die, there is a 50% chance that you'll do
it?

Give it a rest, ditz.

 

[Bart!]

On 01 Feb 2012 21:24:50 GMT, John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> wrote:

An incessant liar.

You are a total retard, Jake. Fuck Off And Die, Boy!

 

[P E Schoen]

"VelCrowPhly" wrote in message
news:600ki7ha6nnj7ihegk949f746mfqvldrcn@4ax.com...

I only hope that when they DO yank your account, it costs you an
entire year of access payout, because when they DO yank it, and
they will, you will get NO refund whatsoever. You may even be sued.

Have a nice life asshole! Better yet, go jump off a tall bridge
and have a nice death, dumbfuck.

Y'all do realize that John Doe is chizzing in his panties every time
somebody replies to his posts and engages in argument. He thrives on the
attention and the fact that this thread has grown so huge, with no helpful
content, means that he has won this round and he will likely strike again.
If nobody responds, we'll all be able to get back to relevant topics, and
leave this loser flapping in the breeze.

Your choice.

I'm done.

Paul

 

[Bart!]

On 01 Feb 2012 23:06:27 GMT, John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> wrote:

Jamie <jamie_ka1lpa_not_valid_after_ka1lpa_ charter.net> wrote:

The problem with the young these days are they want to be the
chief before an indian.

Old people with any responsibility should be aware of the fact
that young people are swamped with information.

You're an idiot.

The way they learn
will be different than prior generations.

You are a complete and utter retard. There are a few in every
generation. You are ours.

The floodgates are open.

Shame you don't drown, asshole.

Learning skills required will be more like the ability to filter
information

Like you calling everyone a liar and a troll?

Yeah, you have civil intelligent behavior down. NOT!

that they don't need or that might even be harmful.
The current generation is not like "my kid is learning algebra at
an early age".

You are too goddamned stupid to know anything about ANY generation,
dumbfuck. You abuse of this group in this very thread proves it, Go
ahead, asswipe, cut and paste and SPAM your CRAP again. I dare you.

If you think that what you have learned is a big deal, you should
think again. Kids that survive in this time are going to be
extremely intelligent.

Not if they are anything like your retarded ass, roller skate retard
boy.

Simple knowledge is not valuable, for that
reason.

Yeah, and you don't even have any of that. Your skull cavity is filled
with shit, and your mother should be jailed for foisting your retarded
ass onto the world.