Double Headed Fakes

[Phil Allison]

"kreed"
"Phil Allison"

There was such an article along those exact lines on one of those
programs during the 1990s about counterfeit bolts and fasteners ending
up in aircraft and possibly vehicles. Many of these were sub standard
(were not high tensile where they were supposed to be) and were even
falsely marked.

I dont know what the end result was of this being exposed to the
public

** Google turned up one air crash that was attributed to the use of
counterfeit and substandard bolts.

In 1989, a Norwegian Convair 580 (a bit like a DC3) crashed after losing
its
tail fin - 55 people were killed.

** Why did " kreed " completely ignore this ?

Dearly love to know.

BTW

It is very sobering to look at the very looooong list of fatal airliner
crashes in the last 20 years or so.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_notable_accidents_and_incidents_...

EG

An Airbus A300 nosed dived into a NY suburb in 2003 killing all 260 on
board
just after take off - for no better reason than the pilot was too "
rough " in his handing of the ruder controls, causing it to snap off due
to
overload.

...... Phil


Interesting to note that looking at those lists, 2007 has the highest
number of accidents / incidents listed out of any year in that page,
and 2007 is nowhere near finished yet.

** Then try to be a smart by posting this nonsense.

The listing is FAR from comprehensive in any year.

See the word " notable " ??

Means any damn thing they like.




........ Phil

 

[Bob Parker]

On 25/08/2007 16:18 Phil Allison wrote:

** Google turned up one air crash that was attributed to the use of
counterfeit and substandard bolts.

In 1989, a Norwegian Convair 580 (a bit like a DC3) crashed after losing its
tail fin - 55 people were killed.

BTW

It is very sobering to look at the very looooong list of fatal airliner
crashes in the last 20 years or so.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_notable_accidents_and_incidents_on_commercial_aircraft


EG

An Airbus A300 nosed dived into a NY suburb in 2003 killing all 260 on board
just after take off - for no better reason than the pilot was too "
rough " in his handing of the ruder controls, causing it to snap off due to
overload.



...... Phil

But can you remember the crash of Vickers Viscount VH-TVC into
Botany Bay in November 1961 with the loss of all on board?
Story at http://www.airwaysmuseum.com/Vickers%20Viscount%20VH-TVC.htm

Bob

 

[Phil Allison]

"Bob Parker"

But can you remember the crash of Vickers Viscount VH-TVC into Botany
Bay in November 1961 with the loss of all on board?
Story at http://www.airwaysmuseum.com/Vickers%20Viscount%20VH-TVC.htm

** This arvo, when browsing that long list on Wiki of " notable incidents "
I searched for an early 1960s Viscount crash - since I was sure there WAS
one back then in Aussie.

Only I had the idea it went down in Bass straight ?




....... Phil

 

[Bob Parker]

On 25/08/2007 23:03 Phil Allison wrote:

"Bob Parker"

But can you remember the crash of Vickers Viscount VH-TVC into Botany
Bay in November 1961 with the loss of all on board?
Story at http://www.airwaysmuseum.com/Vickers%20Viscount%20VH-TVC.htm



** This arvo, when browsing that long list on Wiki of " notable incidents "
I searched for an early 1960s Viscount crash - since I was sure there WAS
one back then in Aussie.

Only I had the idea it went down in Bass straight ?


...... Phil

According to
http://www.airdisaster.com/cgi-bin/aircraft_detail.cgi?aircraft=Vickers+Viscount
(turn your popup blocker on) there have been three Viscount crashes in
Aust: in Sydney, Port Hedland and Winton.

There've been a few plane crashes in Bass Strait, but no Viscounts
got mentioned, according to
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bass_Strait_Triangle#History_of_Incidents_-_Aviation


Bob

 

[Mark Harriss]

Speaking of air disasters and counterfeit parts, during one really bad
thunderstorm
at night I heard this plane come down less than 2Km from where I lived:

http://www.airdisaster.com/cgi-bin/view_details.cgi?date=10231975&reg=VH-CLS&airline=Connair+Ply

http://stoenworks.com/Flying%20the%204-engined.html

My Dad was almost booked on that flight but was able to an earlier flight
due to
a cancelled booking and was home when it crashed on approach.

As far as counterfeit parts go it's common for helicopter parts "out of
hours"
or past their use by date to be pressed back into service. Certain models
of helicopters
are known to shed rotor blades and over the years have had the official
service lifetime
of the blades reduced more than once due to "accidents".

My favourite story was of the 1950's vintage Hiller helicopter that used
laminated
wood and metal rotor blades: the engineers fitted a new set and could not
get them to
dynamically balance at all. Further inspection found the blades were
counterfeits that had
been made of palm tree wood at a local Egyptian carpenter's. This occurred
in the 1980's
sometime if I recall correctly.