Do Not Call register now working

"Phil Allison" <philallison@tpg.com.au> wrote in message
news:5a5h45F2lpovkU1@mid.individual.net...
"The Rutmanic Fucking IDIOT"


** How brain dead can this ** ASS ** get ??

If a number appears in advertising THEN callers will likely assume it
cannot be legitimately on the register.

So, no need to check it through the "washing" system operated by the
Govt contractor.



What utter crapology. Phil Allison decides to privately sell his
second-hand dud Quad ESLs.
He places an advertisement in the local paper with his telephone number
as the means of contact.


** That don't make a single grain of sense.

Private sales are not business activities.




....... Phil
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It's still advertising you dipstick.

You are even more stupid than I gave you credit for.
No wonder you're still limited to buggering toasters.

There is absolutely no difference between an advertisement to sell something
privately than commercially except the cost and the typical structure /
layout of the advertisement. A simple two liner for the dud Quads versus a
serious spread for a real commercially viable business. The latter of
course you wouldn't be personally acquainted with as your hobby toaster
repair "business" doesn't quite qualify to be in that league.
 
"Phil Allison" <philallison@tpg.com.au> wrote in message
news:5a678cF2n426eU1@mid.individual.net...
"Mr.TURD"


** Piss off - turd brain.




...... Phil
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Mr T. = 1; Phil = 0

Easy to see why Phil lost that round. He lost the plot as well.
 
"The Rutmaniac Fucking IDIOT"

** That don't make a single grain of sense.

Private sales are not business activities.


It's still advertising you dipstick.
Click to expand...

* Run of out school dunnies to troll tonight ?

Cops got your dump on watch - maybe ?





........ Phil
 
"Phil Allison" <philallison@tpg.com.au> wrote in message
news:5a84mbF2m93apU1@mid.individual.net...
"The Rutmaniac Fucking IDIOT"


** That don't make a single grain of sense.

Private sales are not business activities.


It's still advertising you dipstick.



* Run of out school dunnies to troll tonight ?

Cops got your dump on watch - maybe ?





....... Phil
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Here we go AGAIN.
Philthy's argument goes to the dogs, so as predictable as usual he
instigates the bullshit and abuse tactics.
Face it Phil, you've lost this round with more than one person.
Why don't you quit before you bust you're pooper valve? :p
Better still, go zap yourself on those dud Quads. Just might zap some sense
into you - if that's at all possible. :-(
 
"The Rutmaniac Fucking IDIOT"


** What an evil, criminal oxygen thief is Alan Rutlidge.

An ex Telstra puke, faggot and grossly autistic cretin.

A genetic moron, from birth.




....... Phil
 
"Phil Allison" <philallison@tpg.com.au> wrote in message
news:5a87flF2naag5U1@mid.individual.net...
"The Rutmaniac Fucking IDIOT"


** What an evil, criminal oxygen thief is Alan Rutlidge.

An ex Telstra puke, faggot and grossly autistic cretin.

A genetic moron, from birth.




...... Phil
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FFS Phil, please try a bit harder. Is this the best you can do?
Your constant repeats are like D grade movie re-runs - boring as bat shit.
 
"The Rutmaniac Fucking IDIOT"
** What an evil, criminal oxygen thief is Alan Rutlidge.

An ex Telstra puke, faggot and grossly autistic cretin.

A genetic moron, from birth.


FFS Phil, please try a bit harder. Is this the best you can do?
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** Course not.

But death threats are not my style.




....... Phil
 
"Phil Allison" <philallison@tpg.com.au> wrote in message
news:5a8i2fF2nm3g4U1@mid.individual.net...
"The Rutmaniac Fucking IDIOT"


** What an evil, criminal oxygen thief is Alan Rutlidge.

An ex Telstra puke, faggot and grossly autistic cretin.

A genetic moron, from birth.


FFS Phil, please try a bit harder. Is this the best you can do?


** Course not.

But death threats are not my style.




...... Phil
Week as piss Philthy.
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If there is one thing one can be sure of you don't have the guts to carry
out any of your idle threats.
Like Quad ESLs you lack the balls where it counts. You're just all squeak
and sizzle, and frankly not much of that either. Pathetic really.....
 
Phil Allison wrote:
You'd think someone would take home a message from the fact
that a service that was set up to allow only a million
registrations received half of that on the first *day*...
** Where did you get the " million " figure from ????
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Can't remember if it was the Age or 3LO radio news
that said this was the expected uptake (that had
presumably been used for scaling decisions in the
web infrastructure). It was obviously wrong anyhow :)
 
Phil Allison wrote:

In America (and most of the world ) the owner of a mobile phone PAYS for
all calls received !!

So YOU pay for the spammer to call YOU !!
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You already do if you have your home/business number set to divert to
your mobile. Tell us something that we don't already know each time the
bill arrives.


--
Regards

Kevin Martin

To reply - delete what is "not required" (Abbrev) from my address.
 
On 4/05/2007 14:35 Phil Allison wrote:
** Hi to all my fans ....

Bet you have ALL been waiting for this for years !!!!

The Australian Government "Do Not Call" register is finally set up.

http://www.dcita.gov.au/communications_for_consumers/telephone_services/do_not_call/

You can register up to 3 private numbers, home or mobile, on line.


Unfortunately it won't stop 100% of those annoying calls - but will likely
stop most of the telephone spammers.

A new Industry Standard requires callers ( in the excluded categories) to
identify themselves and NOT use numbers that are blocked to Caller ID.

See:

http://www.acma.gov.au/WEB/STANDARD//pc=PC_100642

....... Phil
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I dunno how everyone else is going, but my experience is that
companies like Telstra & banks etc seem to have the attitude that now
that they alone are allowed to call people, they can do as much
high-pressure telemarketing of products to their existing customers as
they like.
The only difference is that their calling numbers aren't blocked.
I'm getting really sick of them.

Bob
 
Bob Parker wrote:
I dunno how everyone else is going, but my experience is that
companies like Telstra & banks etc seem to have the attitude that now
that they alone are allowed to call people, they can do as much
high-pressure telemarketing of products to their existing customers as
they like.
The only difference is that their calling numbers aren't blocked. I'm
getting really sick of them.

Bob
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I had this trouble with Westpac Bob,
Trying to sell me insurance, as I have accounts with them.
Were ringing every second week.

I told them if they keep ringing me, I will close my accounts, and I
meant it.

They then told me that they have crossed me off their list, and I won't
be called again. Haven't heard from them since.

Don...




--
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E-Mail Contact Page: http://www.dontronics.com/email
No More Damn Spam: http://www.wizard-of-oz.com

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http://www.dontronics-shop.com/product.php?productid=16659

USB Flash Drive interface for existing products.
http://www.dontronics-shop.com/product.php?productid=16654
 
On 1/08/2007 18:03 Don McKenzie wrote:
I had this trouble with Westpac Bob,
Trying to sell me insurance, as I have accounts with them.
Were ringing every second week.

I told them if they keep ringing me, I will close my accounts, and I
meant it.

They then told me that they have crossed me off their list, and I won't
be called again. Haven't heard from them since.

Don...
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Funny you should say that, Don! I just got off the phone from
Westpac trying to sell me insurance too. That was what prompted my post.
I've just e-mailed them and Telstra telling them to take me off all
their phone & e-mail telemarketing lists.

Cheers
Bob
 
"Don McKenzie" <look@mysig.com> wrote in message
news:46b03e5e$0$13888$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
I had this trouble with Westpac Bob,
Trying to sell me insurance, as I have accounts with them.
Were ringing every second week.

I told them if they keep ringing me, I will close my accounts, and I
meant it.

They then told me that they have crossed me off their list, and I won't
be called again. Haven't heard from them since.
Click to expand...
Ditto.

MrT.
 
"Don McKenzie" <look@mysig.com> wrote in message
news:46b03e5e$0$13888$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
Bob Parker wrote:
I dunno how everyone else is going, but my experience is that
companies like Telstra & banks etc seem to have the attitude that now
that they alone are allowed to call people, they can do as much
high-pressure telemarketing of products to their existing customers as
they like.
The only difference is that their calling numbers aren't blocked. I'm
getting really sick of them.

Bob

I had this trouble with Westpac Bob,
Trying to sell me insurance, as I have accounts with them.
Were ringing every second week.

I told them if they keep ringing me, I will close my accounts, and I meant
it.

They then told me that they have crossed me off their list, and I won't be
called again. Haven't heard from them since.
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I got the Westpac Life insurance phone call about 6 months ago and I wasn't
rude about it, I just kept asking questions about different premiums vs.
coverage and "what if" scenarios before i told her I wasn't interested, they
haven't called back. I think the clincher was asking lots of questions about
the cooling off period for suicide. I was home by myself that evening and
was doing little else, and the way I see it i did someone else a good deed
by limiting the number of calls she made that night :)

James


>
 
I got the Westpac Life insurance phone call about 6 months ago and I wasn't
rude about it, I just kept asking questions about different premiums vs.
coverage and "what if" scenarios before i told her I wasn't interested, they
haven't called back. I think the clincher was asking lots of questions about
the cooling off period for suicide. I was home by myself that evening and
was doing little else, and the way I see it i did someone else a good deed
by limiting the number of calls she made that night :)

James
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The way I see it basically, is they can ring you if they currently do
business with you.

However, if you don't want their phone calls, you tell them. You get the
name of the person ringing, and the area/branch of the company they are
ringing from, and record the time and date.

You also tell them that if they don't cross you off their list, and
cease the phone calls, then you may consider taking your business
elsewhere.

You do this in a civil manner, and make sure they say they will cross
you off the list.

If you get further phone calls, get details again, and report them in
writing to their head office.

It appears under the threat of business cancellation, on the first phone
call, they do drop you from the list, but this is the plan I intend to
follow.

Don...



--
Don McKenzie

Site Map: http://www.dontronics.com/sitemap
E-Mail Contact Page: http://www.dontronics.com/email
No More Damn Spam: http://www.wizard-of-oz.com

Serial OLED uses standard micro-SD memory cards.
http://www.dontronics-shop.com/product.php?productid=16659

USB Flash Drive interface for existing products.
http://www.dontronics-shop.com/product.php?productid=16654
 
They called me a while back and once I explained that they are more
expensive then my current insurer, they stopped on their own accord. Have
not heard from them for a long time now.

As for the register -- I think it is working. I did not get a call in a few
month now.

Rudolf

"Bob Parker" <bobp.deletethis@bluebottle.com> wrote in message
news:46b04173$0$31434$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
On 1/08/2007 18:03 Don McKenzie wrote:

I had this trouble with Westpac Bob,
Trying to sell me insurance, as I have accounts with them.
Were ringing every second week.

I told them if they keep ringing me, I will close my accounts, and I
meant it.

They then told me that they have crossed me off their list, and I won't
be called again. Haven't heard from them since.

Don...

Funny you should say that, Don! I just got off the phone from Westpac
trying to sell me insurance too. That was what prompted my post. I've just
e-mailed them and Telstra telling them to take me off all their phone &
e-mail telemarketing lists.

Cheers
Bob
Click to expand...
 
On 2/08/2007 06:38 Don McKenzie wrote:
The way I see it basically, is they can ring you if they currently do
business with you.

However, if you don't want their phone calls, you tell them. You get the
name of the person ringing, and the area/branch of the company they are
ringing from, and record the time and date.

You also tell them that if they don't cross you off their list, and
cease the phone calls, then you may consider taking your business
elsewhere.

You do this in a civil manner, and make sure they say they will cross
you off the list.

If you get further phone calls, get details again, and report them in
writing to their head office.

It appears under the threat of business cancellation, on the first phone
call, they do drop you from the list, but this is the plan I intend to
follow.

Don...
Click to expand...
Actually under the new regulations, companies have to be very
careful with telemarketing calls to their own customers. I found this
out after our discussion yesterday.
Have a look at this document from the ACMA:
http://www.acma.gov.au/webwr/_assets/main/lib310037/is124_dncr-consent_consumer_info.pdf
The most relevant part is....

Withdrawing consent
If you are receiving telemarketing calls from a business with which you
have an existing relationship, and you do not wish to continue receiving
these calls, you should contact the business to request that it remove
you from its marketing list.
If you continue to receive telemarketing calls from the business after
you have withdrawn your consent, you can lodge a complaint by calling
the Do Not Call Register on 1300 792 958 or by visiting the register’s
website at www.donotcall.gov.au.

Bob
 
"Bob Parker" <bobp.deletethis@bluebottle.com> wrote in message
news:46b03a2f$0$31407$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
On 4/05/2007 14:35 Phil Allison wrote:
** Hi to all my fans ....

Bet you have ALL been waiting for this for years !!!!

The Australian Government "Do Not Call" register is finally set up.

http://www.dcita.gov.au/communications_for_consumers/telephone_services/do_not_call/

You can register up to 3 private numbers, home or mobile, on line.


Unfortunately it won't stop 100% of those annoying calls - but will
likely stop most of the telephone spammers.

A new Industry Standard requires callers ( in the excluded categories) to
identify themselves and NOT use numbers that are blocked to Caller ID.

See:

http://www.acma.gov.au/WEB/STANDARD//pc=PC_100642

....... Phil


I dunno how everyone else is going, but my experience is that companies
like Telstra & banks etc seem to have the attitude that now that they
alone are allowed to call people, they can do as much high-pressure
telemarketing of products to their existing customers as they like.
The only difference is that their calling numbers aren't blocked. I'm
getting really sick of them.

Bob
Click to expand...
I agree, ever since I have registered on this list I have received more Spam
calls than ever..... Frustrating

Regards


AJ
 
Bob Parker wrote:

On 2/08/2007 06:38 Don McKenzie wrote:


The way I see it basically, is they can ring you if they currently do
business with you.

However, if you don't want their phone calls, you tell them. You get
the name of the person ringing, and the area/branch of the company
they are ringing from, and record the time and date.

You also tell them that if they don't cross you off their list, and
cease the phone calls, then you may consider taking your business
elsewhere.

You do this in a civil manner, and make sure they say they will cross
you off the list.

If you get further phone calls, get details again, and report them in
writing to their head office.

It appears under the threat of business cancellation, on the first
phone call, they do drop you from the list, but this is the plan I
intend to follow.

Don...


Actually under the new regulations, companies have to be very careful
with telemarketing calls to their own customers. I found this out after
our discussion yesterday.
Have a look at this document from the ACMA:
http://www.acma.gov.au/webwr/_assets/main/lib310037/is124_dncr-consent_consumer_info.pdf

The most relevant part is....

Withdrawing consent
If you are receiving telemarketing calls from a business with which you
have an existing relationship, and you do not wish to continue receiving
these calls, you should contact the business to request that it remove
you from its marketing list.
If you continue to receive telemarketing calls from the business after
you have withdrawn your consent, you can lodge a complaint by calling
the Do Not Call Register on 1300 792 958 or by visiting the register’s
website at www.donotcall.gov.au.

Bob
Click to expand...

Withdrawing consent!!
great work Bob, that's the bottom line.


Don...




--
Don McKenzie

Site Map: http://www.dontronics.com/sitemap
E-Mail Contact Page: http://www.dontronics.com/email
No More Damn Spam: http://www.wizard-of-oz.com

Serial OLED uses standard micro-SD memory cards.
http://www.dontronics-shop.com/product.php?productid=16659

USB Flash Drive interface for existing products.
http://www.dontronics-shop.com/product.php?productid=16654
 
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