Decline of E+WW

Andrew Holme · Jan 4, 2005

There are computer game reviews and gadget advertorials in the Feb 2005
Electronics & Wireless World. Is this finally the end?

If you gave me a choice between the Internet, as it is now; and the
electronics magazines we had in the '70s: I'd have to choose the Internet;
but I do miss those magazines ...

Mike Meakin · Jan 4, 2005

Couldn't agree more - picked one up in W H Smiths and couldn't believe how
pathetic it was. Cancelled my subscription a couple of years ago.
Considering what a wonderful journal it was, it is very sad end.

Mike Meakin

"Andrew Holme" <andrew@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:creld6$5pj$1$8302bc10@news.demon.co.uk...

There are computer game reviews and gadget advertorials in the Feb 2005
Electronics & Wireless World. Is this finally the end?

If you gave me a choice between the Internet, as it is now; and the
electronics magazines we had in the '70s: I'd have to choose the Internet;
but I do miss those magazines ...

Helmut Sennewald · Jan 4, 2005

"Andrew Holme" <andrew@nospam.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:creld6$5pj$1$8302bc10@news.demon.co.uk...

There are computer game reviews and gadget advertorials in the Feb 2005
Electronics & Wireless World. Is this finally the end?

If you gave me a choice between the Internet, as it is now; and the
electronics magazines we had in the '70s: I'd have to choose the Internet;
but I do miss those magazines ...

Hello Andrew,
I have bought it a few times in the past. It had costed me
a leg and an arm here in Germany.
I recommend to try Elektor. They have interesting articles
and projects and a big amount of readers at least in Germany
and the Netherlands.
I don't know how popular Elektor is in the UK.
I guess Elektor is the only independent electronics magazine
which will survive in the long term.

http://www.elektor-electronics.co.uk/

Best Regards,
Helmut

PS: I am not an employee of Elektor.

Winfield Hill · Jan 4, 2005

John Woodgate wrote...

I read in sci.electronics.design that Andrew Holme wrote

There are computer game reviews and gadget advertorials in the
Feb 2005 Electronics & Wireless World. Is this finally the end?

If you gave me a choice between the Internet, as it is now; and
the electronics magazines we had in the '70s: I'd have to choose
the Internet; but I do miss those magazines ...

Well, Cyril Bateman and occasionally others are struggling to keep it
alive. The problem is undoubtedly that very few people have the time
and/or inclination these days to write articles for publication. Even
though the mechanics of production are absurdly easy these days; word-
processing, graphics programs, maths programs, simulators etc.. You
don't even have to snail-mail the MS.

If the new editor hasn't changed the policy, the payment for articles
is not inconsiderable. You might enquire.

I agree, it's not an either / or situation. So let's get writing!

--
Thanks,
- Win

Reg Edwards · Jan 4, 2005

Can anybody remember the good old days when QST and other USA amateur radio
magazines could be bought on the newstands at British main-line railway
stations? Nice reading material between Kings Cross and Edinburgh Waverly
on the Flying Scotsman in the dining car.

Paul Burridge · Jan 4, 2005

On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 20:29:09 +0000 (UTC), "Reg Edwards"
<g4fgq.regp@ZZZbtinternet.com> wrote:

Can anybody remember the good old days when QST and other USA amateur radio
magazines could be bought on the newstands at British main-line railway
stations? Nice reading material between Kings Cross and Edinburgh Waverly
on the Flying Scotsman in the dining car.

Sorry, Reg; a bit before this G4's time.
--

"What is now proved was once only imagin'd." - William Blake, 1793.

john jardine · Jan 5, 2005

"Andrew Holme" <andrew@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:creld6$5pj$1$8302bc10@news.demon.co.uk...

There are computer game reviews and gadget advertorials in the Feb 2005
Electronics & Wireless World. Is this finally the end?

If you gave me a choice between the Internet, as it is now; and the
electronics magazines we had in the '70s: I'd have to choose the Internet;
but I do miss those magazines ...

The stuff from Cyril Bateman is priceless. How he gets the time I just do
not know.
regards
john

Winfield Hill · Jan 5, 2005

Dirk Bruere at Neopax wrote...

Winfield Hill wrote:
I agree, it's not an either / or situation. So let's get writing!

Have they done a transcranial magnetic stimulator?

I don't think so, so get cracking! BTW, one of the PhD graduates
of my lab is going into that area; he think it's the cat's pajamas.

--
Thanks,
- Win

The Phantom · Jan 5, 2005

On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 17:51:43 -0000, "Andrew Holme" <andrew@nospam.com> wrote:

There are computer game reviews and gadget advertorials in the Feb 2005
Electronics & Wireless World. Is this finally the end?

If you gave me a choice between the Internet, as it is now; and the
electronics magazines we had in the '70s: I'd have to choose the Internet;
but I do miss those magazines ...

This happened to the popular electronics magazines in the US 20 or more years ago. I

continued to subscribe to EWW since 1973 because the British publishers weren't afraid of
math. I once saw an article in one of the American magazines, Poptronics or Electronics
Now, or some such, where the author actually *apologized* for including E=IR in his
article.

Given the state of popular culture, are we surprised by this?

Apparently Gresham's law doesn't apply only to currency.

Jonathan Kirwan · Jan 5, 2005

On 4 Jan 2005 19:18:07 -0800, Winfield Hill
<hill_a@t_rowland-dotties-harvard-dot.s-edu> wrote:

I don't think so, so get cracking! BTW, one of the PhD graduates
of my lab is going into that area; he think it's the cat's pajamas.

This article about it was strangely interesting...

http://www.wireheading.com/brainstim/savant.html

Jon

Winfield Hill · Jan 5, 2005

Kryten wrote...

To paraphrase Andy Warhol, "In the future, everyone will be famous
for fifteen megabytes". (or whatever the typical limit is at the time)

I have filled my own 15 MByte of web space with stuff personally
polished by me. I have now got another site with a 50 MByte quota!

Links, please.

--
Thanks,
- Win

Dirk Bruere at Neopax · Jan 5, 2005

Jonathan Kirwan wrote:

On 4 Jan 2005 19:18:07 -0800, Winfield Hill
hill_a@t_rowland-dotties-harvard-dot.s-edu> wrote:

I don't think so, so get cracking! BTW, one of the PhD graduates
of my lab is going into that area; he think it's the cat's pajamas.

This article about it was strangely interesting...

http://www.wireheading.com/brainstim/savant.html

I'm starting to look into it seriously.
However, most of my posts to date have been on religious NGs.
Anyway, I'm going to start a thread here and see what comes up.
"Transcranial magnetic stimulation (TMS)"

My interests are mainly with respect to altered states of consciousness and
religious experience.

--
Dirk

The Consensus:-
The political party for the new millenium
http://www.theconsensus.org

Rich The Philosophizer · Jan 5, 2005

On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 09:06:47 +0000, Jonathan Kirwan wrote:

On 4 Jan 2005 19:18:07 -0800, Winfield Hill
hill_a@t_rowland-dotties-harvard-dot.s-edu> wrote:

I don't think so, so get cracking! BTW, one of the PhD graduates
of my lab is going into that area; he think it's the cat's pajamas.

This article about it was strangely interesting...

http://www.wireheading.com/brainstim/savant.html

Sounds like all you really need is some good acid. ;-)

Cheers!
Rich

Dirk Bruere at Neopax · Jan 5, 2005

Jonathan Kirwan wrote:

On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 19:55:47 GMT, Rich The Philosophizer <rtp@example.net
wrote:

http://www.godchannel.com

It has all of the answers.

Bullshit.

There are two ways, in the main at least, of making non-falsifiable claims. The
first variety is to make a statement that is so broad or vague that it lacks any
propositional content -- a so-called 'undeclared' claim, which is essentially
unintelligible and meaningless. The second variety is to have an inexhaustible
series of excuses to explain away the evidence that would seem to falsify the
claim -- a so-called 'multiple-outs' claim.

The third is to make claims based on untestable axioms.
The fourth is to make claims as to ones own perception eg qualia

--
Dirk

The Consensus:-
The political party for the new millenium
http://www.theconsensus.org

Mike Harrison · Jan 5, 2005

On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 20:48:48 GMT, Jonathan Kirwan <jkirwan@easystreet.com> wrote:

On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 19:55:47 GMT, Rich The Philosophizer <rtp@example.net
wrote:

http://www.godchannel.com

It has all of the answers.

Jeez - it's the 21's century FFS. Isn't it time we moved on from all this religion nonsense....?

Dirk Bruere at Neopax · Jan 6, 2005

Mike Harrison wrote:

On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 20:48:48 GMT, Jonathan Kirwan <jkirwan@easystreet.com> wrote:

On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 19:55:47 GMT, Rich The Philosophizer <rtp@example.net
wrote:

http://www.godchannel.com

It has all of the answers.

Jeez - it's the 21's century FFS. Isn't it time we moved on from all this religion nonsense....?

Right.
And to explain a brick all we need is eleven dimensions and an infinite number
of universes.

--
Dirk

The Consensus:-
The political party for the new millenium
http://www.theconsensus.org

Kryten · Jan 6, 2005

"Winfield Hill" <hill_a@t_rowland-dotties-harvard-dot.s-edu> wrote in
message news:crgmp801j6g@drn.newsguy.com...

Kryten wrote...

To paraphrase Andy Warhol, "In the future, everyone will be famous
for fifteen megabytes". (or whatever the typical limit is at the time)

I have filled my own 15 MByte of web space with stuff personally
polished by me. I have now got another site with a 50 MByte quota!

Links, please.

http://www.howell1964.freeserve.co.uk/
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/kryten_droid/

It's all rather a geek scrapbook, I'm afraid.
I don't make any claim for them to be any more than that.
I just put up stuff I would want to find on the web.

Latest project is a small computer with PAL/NTSC colour video out,
like the home computers of the early 1980s,
but with modern PS/2 keyboard/mouse/cursor/USB.
It's meant to provide a useful human interface and I/O for projects,
without the complexity of an embedded PC.

http://www.howell1964.freeserve.co.uk/logic/polymorph_project.htm

I would like to spend more time on it but I need to find some more paid work
soon.

If anyone reading this needs an electronics guy, let me know!

Winfield Hill · Jan 6, 2005

john jardine wrote...

Andrew Holme wrote ...
There are computer game reviews and gadget advertorials in the
Feb 2005 Electronics & Wireless World. Is this finally the end?

If you gave me a choice between the Internet, as it is now; and
the electronics magazines we had in the '70s: I'd have to choose
the Internet; but I do miss those magazines ...

The stuff from Cyril Bateman is priceless. How he gets the time
I just do not know.

I just got my January issue, with the 4th Cyril Bateman article.
While this article alone makes the issue worthwhile for me, there
were plenty of other good things to grab my attention. Not one to
declare EW down and out, I recently renewed my 3-year subscription.
Plus I'll make a submission sometime soon to keep the ball rolling.

--
Thanks,
- Win

Rich Grise · Jan 6, 2005

On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 20:48:48 +0000, Jonathan Kirwan wrote:

On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 19:55:47 GMT, Rich The Philosophizer <rtp@example.net
wrote:

http://www.godchannel.com

It has all of the answers.

Bullshit.

Have you ever actually tried "listening on the inside"? And failed?

Thanks,
Rich

Rich The Philosophizer · Jan 6, 2005

On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 20:16:37 -0500, mc wrote:

"Mike Harrison" <mike@whitewing.co.uk> wrote in message
news:091pt0h4pja7284onmo3v44rhbqab6f4ha@4ax.com...
On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 20:48:48 GMT, Jonathan Kirwan <jkirwan@easystreet.com
wrote:

On Wed, 05 Jan 2005 19:55:47 GMT, Rich The Philosophizer <rtp@example.net
wrote:

http://www.godchannel.com

It has all of the answers.

Jeez - it's the 21's century FFS. Isn't it time we moved on from all this
religion nonsense....?

Actually I'm hoping shallow, doctrinaire, absolutist, intolerant
mid-20th-century atheism will die down.

Oh, it's already quite dead. That's why it's so important to rescue the
Lost Will from it.

Thanks,
Rich

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