Court authorized wiretaps in the U.S. surged last year

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Winfield Hill

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Court authorized wiretaps in the U.S. surged to 3,464 last year,
according to the Justice Department. Taking law enforcement at
its word without question, judges rubber-stamped approvals on
every single request they received. Be careful, watch out. And
remember, email is next.


--
Thanks,
- Win
 
Winfield Hill wrote:

Court authorized wiretaps in the U.S. surged to 3,464 last year,
according to the Justice Department. Taking law enforcement at
its word without question, judges rubber-stamped approvals on
every single request they received. Be careful, watch out. And
remember, email is next.
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Winfield Hill wrote:

Court authorized wiretaps in the U.S. surged to 3,464 last year,
according to the Justice Department. Taking law enforcement at
its word without question, judges rubber-stamped approvals on
every single request they received. Be careful, watch out. And
remember, email is next.
Click to expand...
In Britain, in 2003, there were just over 1900 such taps.


--
Dirk

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The political party for the new millenium
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On 28 Apr 2005 18:39:39 -0700, Winfield Hill
<hill_a@t_rowland-dotties-harvard-dot.s-edu> wrote:

Court authorized wiretaps in the U.S. surged to 3,464 last year,
according to the Justice Department. Taking law enforcement at
its word without question, judges rubber-stamped approvals on
every single request they received. Be careful, watch out. And
remember, email is next.
Click to expand...
"surged to 3,464" from what number?

That's like 10 per day for the whole USA.

Sounds like a quotation from the NY "Leftist Weenie" Times ;-)

...Jim Thompson
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I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
 
"Winfield Hill" <hill_a@t_rowland-dotties-harvard-dot.s-edu> wrote in
message news:d4s38r0248b@drn.newsguy.com...
Court authorized wiretaps in the U.S. surged to 3,464 last year,
according to the Justice Department. Taking law enforcement at
its word without question, judges rubber-stamped approvals on
every single request they received. Be careful, watch out. And
remember, email is next.


--
Thanks,
- Win
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Let's see .... 3464 wire taps ... less than 0.1% of the population. Not
bad.

I'll wake up when it hit's one percent ... 3.5 million wiretaps.


--
Joe
http://www.fcctests.com
 
Joe wrote:
"Winfield Hill" <hill_a@t_rowland-dotties-harvard-dot.s-edu> wrote in
message news:d4s38r0248b@drn.newsguy.com...
Court authorized wiretaps in the U.S. surged to 3,464 last year,
according to the Justice Department. Taking law enforcement at
its word without question, judges rubber-stamped approvals on
every single request they received. Be careful, watch out. And
remember, email is next.


--
Thanks,
- Win

Let's see .... 3464 wire taps ... less than 0.1% of the population.
Not bad.
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Its less then 0.0014% of the population of the US!

Same deal for this err grand "problem" of terrorism. A recent quote put
the deaths at 1900. Well about 0.5% of the population die of old age a
year, so at over 1,000,000, most extra deaths that people complain
about, are in the noise floor:)

Kevin Aylward
informationEXTRACT@anasoft.co.uk
http://www.anasoft.co.uk
SuperSpice, a very affordable Mixed-Mode
Windows Simulator with Schematic Capture,
Waveform Display, FFT's and Filter Design.
 
I read in sci.electronics.design that Winfield Hill
<hill_a@t_rowland-dotties-harvard-dot.s-edu> wrote (in
<d4s38r0248b@drn.newsguy.com>) about 'Court authorized wiretaps in the
U.S. surged last year', on Thu, 28 Apr 2005:
Be careful, watch out. And
remember, email is next.
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I've already notice many subversive statements in your contributions
here. Undermining the mystery of gurudom by supplying newbies with
logical explanations and working schematics is a very serious offence.
--
Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.
There are two sides to every question, except
'What is a Moebius strip?'
http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk
 
In Britain, in 2003, there were just over 1900 such taps.

Big Brother applies to the internet too. MI5, MI6 and the CIA can tap
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your line just by dialling your phone number from an armchair in the
HQs office. No need for an engineer to fumble with a pair of
crocodile clips in your local telephone exchange.

No wonder the Prime Minister has been encouraging rapid take up of the
system by the general populace.

BBC radio broadcasting services have already been put on the Internet.
The rest will follow.

Radio amateurs can expect to see changes in their licensing
conditions. Initially being severely reduced to the same technical
status as Citizen Banders.

If I should suddenly disappear from circulation you will know the
reason why.
 
On 28 Apr 2005 18:39:39 -0700, Winfield Hill wrote:

Court authorized wiretaps in the U.S. surged to 3,464 last year,
according to the Justice Department. Taking law enforcement at
its word without question, judges rubber-stamped approvals on
every single request they received. Be careful, watch out. And
remember, email is next.
Click to expand...
Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get you!


Bob
 
On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 08:30:15 +0100, John Woodgate
<jmw@jmwa.demon.contraspam.yuk> wrote:

I read in sci.electronics.design that Winfield Hill
hill_a@t_rowland-dotties-harvard-dot.s-edu> wrote (in
d4s38r0248b@drn.newsguy.com>) about 'Court authorized wiretaps in the
U.S. surged last year', on Thu, 28 Apr 2005:
Be careful, watch out. And
remember, email is next.

I've already notice many subversive statements in your contributions
here. Undermining the mystery of gurudom by supplying newbies with
logical explanations and working schematics is a very serious offence.
Click to expand...
Bwahahahahaha!

For the slow newbie... take note... John is being subtle ;-)

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona Voice:(480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax:(480)460-2142 | Brass Rat |
| http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
 
I read in sci.electronics.design that Reg Edwards
<g4fgq.regp@ZZZbtinternet.com> wrote (in
<d4sq1l$3ao$1@nwrdmz03.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com>) about 'Court
authorized wiretaps in the U.S. surged last year', on Fri, 29 Apr 2005:
In Britain, in 2003, there were just over 1900 such taps.

Big Brother applies to the internet too. MI5, MI6 and the CIA can tap
your line just by dialling your phone number from an armchair in the
HQs office. No need for an engineer to fumble with a pair of
crocodile clips in your local telephone exchange.
Click to expand...
So what? I bet most of the time they are listening to porn lines.
No wonder the Prime Minister has been encouraging rapid take up of the
system by the general populace.
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He's a Labour Party member. It's well-known that every member has a
personal spook assigned.
BBC radio broadcasting services have already been put on the Internet.
The rest will follow.
Click to expand...
If Paxo disappears, be VERY afraid.
Radio amateurs can expect to see changes in their licensing
conditions. Initially being severely reduced to the same technical
status as Citizen Banders.
Click to expand...
They already are at that level, aren't they? They buy everything
ready-made these days.
If I should suddenly disappear from circulation you will know the
reason why.


Let's hope you've got a few years yet, despite being over the three
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score and ten.
--
Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.
There are two sides to every question, except
'What is a Moebius strip?'
http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk
 
On 28 Apr 2005 18:39:39 -0700, Winfield Hill
<hill_a@t_rowland-dotties-harvard-dot.s-edu> wrote:

Court authorized wiretaps in the U.S. surged to 3,464 last year,
according to the Justice Department.
Click to expand...
Out of 300e6 people and maybe 1e5 criminal organizations, I'd say
they're not trying very hard.

Taking law enforcement at
its word without question, judges rubber-stamped approvals on
every single request they received.
Click to expand...
Do you know that to be a fact, in every single case? And all those
judges use rubber stamps?

Be careful, watch out.
Click to expand...
Right. If you're planning a serious felony, use good encryption, and
it's best not to plan your hits over your cell phone.

John
 
On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 19:27:08 -0700, Jim Thompson
<thegreatone@example.com> wrote:

On 28 Apr 2005 18:39:39 -0700, Winfield Hill
hill_a@t_rowland-dotties-harvard-dot.s-edu> wrote:

Court authorized wiretaps in the U.S. surged to 3,464 last year,
according to the Justice Department. Taking law enforcement at
its word without question, judges rubber-stamped approvals on
every single request they received. Be careful, watch out. And
remember, email is next.

"surged to 3,464" from what number?

That's like 10 per day for the whole USA.

Sounds like a quotation from the NY "Leftist Weenie" Times ;-)

...Jim Thompson
Click to expand...
What's a Leftist Weenie? A tofu dog?

John
 
On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 08:24:18 -0700, John Larkin
<jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 19:27:08 -0700, Jim Thompson
thegreatone@example.com> wrote:

On 28 Apr 2005 18:39:39 -0700, Winfield Hill
hill_a@t_rowland-dotties-harvard-dot.s-edu> wrote:

Court authorized wiretaps in the U.S. surged to 3,464 last year,
according to the Justice Department. Taking law enforcement at
its word without question, judges rubber-stamped approvals on
every single request they received. Be careful, watch out. And
remember, email is next.

"surged to 3,464" from what number?

That's like 10 per day for the whole USA.

Sounds like a quotation from the NY "Leftist Weenie" Times ;-)

...Jim Thompson

What's a Leftist Weenie? A tofu dog?

John
Click to expand...
That's a good description ;-)

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona Voice:(480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax:(480)460-2142 | Brass Rat |
| http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
 
On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 08:22:20 -0700, John Larkin
<jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On 28 Apr 2005 18:39:39 -0700, Winfield Hill
hill_a@t_rowland-dotties-harvard-dot.s-edu> wrote:

Court authorized wiretaps in the U.S. surged to 3,464 last year,
according to the Justice Department.

Out of 300e6 people and maybe 1e5 criminal organizations, I'd say
they're not trying very hard.

Taking law enforcement at
its word without question, judges rubber-stamped approvals on
every single request they received.

Do you know that to be a fact, in every single case? And all those
judges use rubber stamps?
Click to expand...
Leftist weenies always spout platitudes... never mind the facts, just
be loud and discourteous... talk over your opponent wherever
possible... damn the rules of debate.

Be careful, watch out.

Right. If you're planning a serious felony, use good encryption, and
it's best not to plan your hits over your cell phone.

John
Click to expand...

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona Voice:(480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax:(480)460-2142 | Brass Rat |
| http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 |

I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.
 
On 28 Apr 2005 18:39:39 -0700, Winfield Hill
<hill_a@t_rowland-dotties-harvard-dot.s-edu> wrote:

Court authorized wiretaps in the U.S. surged to 3,464 last year,
according to the Justice Department. Taking law enforcement at
its word without question, judges rubber-stamped approvals on
every single request they received. Be careful, watch out. And
remember, email is next.
Click to expand...
Actually, the major function of the judge is to be sure that the
applicant documents the scope, location, duration, expected
information, and probable cause for a tap. A notary would do just as
well; they have rubber stamps, too.

If a criminal case results, and the tap turned out not to have a
worthy probable cause, or any of the stated rules weren't followed,
the perps walk. That eliminates fishing expeditions and most forms of
abuse.

What's wrong about that? Do you think that absolute privacy is more
important than public safety?

The Declaration of Independence offered us "life, liberty, and the
pursuit of happiness" in that order.

John
 
"Winfield Hill" <hill_a@t_rowland-dotties-harvard-dot.s-edu> schreef in
bericht news:d4s38r0248b@drn.newsguy.com...
Court authorized wiretaps in the U.S. surged to 3,464 last year,
according to the Justice Department. Taking law enforcement at
its word without question, judges rubber-stamped approvals on
every single request they received. Be careful, watch out. And
remember, email is next.
Click to expand...
I would be more worried about the un-authorized wiretaps.

--
Thanks, Frank.
(remove 'q' and 'invalid' when replying by email)
 
"John Larkin" <jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in message
news:dvj4719u2dfmeh8ng6ek2k35bm8upnh40i@4ax.com...
Right. If you're planning a serious felony, use good encryption, and
it's best not to plan your hits over your cell phone.
Click to expand...
You don't even have to be careful if you're planning a mere felony. They
still can't get a warrant until after the crime. But due to the extremely
oppressive patriot act they can get a warrant if a terrorist act seems to be
in planning, instead of having to wait.


--

Reply in group, but if emailing add
2 more zeros and remove the obvious.
 
On Sun, 01 May 2005 01:34:08 +0000, Tom Del Rosso wrote:

"John Larkin" <jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in message
news:dvj4719u2dfmeh8ng6ek2k35bm8upnh40i@4ax.com...

Right. If you're planning a serious felony, use good encryption, and
it's best not to plan your hits over your cell phone.

You don't even have to be careful if you're planning a mere felony. They
still can't get a warrant until after the crime. But due to the extremely
oppressive patriot act they can get a warrant if a terrorist act seems to be
in planning, instead of having to wait.
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....and that's a bad thing? They _do_ have to have probable cause, in
either case.

--
Keith
 
On Sun, 01 May 2005 01:34:08 GMT, "Tom Del Rosso"
<ng01@att.net.invalid> wrote:

"John Larkin" <jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in message
news:dvj4719u2dfmeh8ng6ek2k35bm8upnh40i@4ax.com...

Right. If you're planning a serious felony, use good encryption, and
it's best not to plan your hits over your cell phone.

You don't even have to be careful if you're planning a mere felony. They
still can't get a warrant until after the crime. But due to the extremely
oppressive patriot act ...
Click to expand...

I sort of *like* the idea of oppressing terrorists.

John
 
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