Carbon Flourescent Lamps ???

On Jul 19, 11:10 am, kreed <kenreed1...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jul 18, 11:32 pm, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...@hotmail.com
wrote:

Bob Parker wrote:
Has anyone watched "The Greenhouse Conspiracy" and "The Great Global
Warming Swindle"? Interesting viewing ...

You know the latter was effectively 'banned' by the US TV networks ?

You can find bits or maybe even all of it on youtube I think.

Graham

Downloaded "great global warming swindle" overnight, after seeing it
discussed in this thread
Its a film worth watching, well presented "BBC style" documentary.

Here is a link to the torrent,

(havent got all of "greenhouse conspiracy" yet, its very slow)
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Downloaded "great global warming swindle" overnight, after seeing it
discussed in this thread
Its a film worth watching, well presented "BBC style" documentary.

Here is a link to the torrent,

http://sea******rch.utorr********ent.com*******
/sea****rch.p***hp?q=great%20global%20********warming
%*********20sw***indle&e=ht*****tp%*********3a%*****2f%2fw***ww.
mi********nin********ova.org

(please remove all **** from the link, if they arent there, Google
blocks the post (Nazi type censorship)

(havent got all of "greenhouse conspiracy" yet, its very slow)
 
On 19/07/2008 11:43 Phil Allison wrote:

BTW:

How many global warming sceptics does it take to change a light bulb ?


..... Phil
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What, a Carbon Fluorescent Lamp or a (wickedly evil
planet-destroying) tungsten filament one? :)
 
On Jul 19, 1:13 pm, Bob Parker <bobp.deletet...@bluebottle.com> wrote:
On 19/07/2008 11:43 Phil Allison wrote:

BTW:

How many global warming sceptics does it take to change a light bulb ?

..... Phil

What, a Carbon Fluorescent Lamp or a (wickedly evil
planet-destroying) tungsten filament one? :)
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Hm, maybe they got confused with carbon-arc lamp ? :)
 
"kreed"

Hm, maybe they got confused with carbon-arc lamp ? :)
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** Here is the same leaflet - on the EnergyAustralia site:

http://www.energyaustralia.com.au/energy/ea.nsf/AttachmentsByTitle/CFL+Disposal/$FILE/CFL_disposal.pdf

Google turns up a few hundred hits on the phrase " carbon fluorescent " -
most of them from dopes on Green blogs but one is from a CFL maker in India
and others from local councils in the UK etc.

Crikey !!!




.... Phil
 
kreed wrote:

Eeyore wrote:
Bob Parker wrote:
Has anyone watched "The Greenhouse Conspiracy" and "The Great Global
Warming Swindle"? Interesting viewing ...

You know the latter was effectively 'banned' by the US TV networks ?

You can find bits or maybe even all of it on youtube I think.

Graham

Downloaded "great global warming swindle" overnight, after seeing it
discussed in this thread
Its a film worth watching, well presented "BBC style" documentary.

Here is a link to the torrent,

(havent got all of "greenhouse conspiracy" yet, its very slow)
Click to expand...
You know "The Great Global Warming Swindle" has been heavily criticised for
alleged partiality ? I'll leave you to make your own judgement about that, but
their sources were first class IMHO.

Then think 'gravy train' and who has most to lose by showing that AGW is either
a crock of shit or vastly overestimated.

Graham
 
kreed wrote:

Downloaded "great global warming swindle" overnight, after seeing it
discussed in this thread
Its a film worth watching, well presented "BBC style" documentary.
Click to expand...
I think it was Channel 4 but you're right, it is in that class of quality
documentary. No funny games, just straight facts and interviews with SERIOUS and
well qualified scientists.

The public is gradually seeing through the political fog. Give it some years.

Graham
 
Bob Parker wrote:

On 19/07/2008 11:10 kreed wrote:

Downloaded "great global warming swindle" overnight, after seeing it
discussed in this thread
Its a film worth watching, well presented "BBC style" documentary.

Here is a link to the torrent,

(havent got all of "greenhouse conspiracy" yet, its very slow)

Apparently when GGWS was shown on ABC-TV last year, the parts with
Prof Carl Wunsch were removed because the good professor later said that
his comments were edited to give the opposite impression to what he
really meant.
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I think he's being a bit 'precious' about that. The questions and answers
were IIRC perfectly clear.


Also the program has later retracted its claim that volcanos emit
more CO2 than all human activity. But that still leaves a lot of stuff
worth thinking about, like how many people are getting a very nice
income by jumping on the Climate Change bandwagon.
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You bet. Gravy train or what ?


Greenhouse Conspiracy was made way back in 1990 when the whole
Global Warming thing was just beginning. A few of the people in it also
appeared ~15 years later in GGWS.
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I've never seen that one.

I did see a documentary some decades earlier (BBC I think) that said we were
headed for a new Ice Age.

I wish they could make their minds up ! Too many researchers chasing too
many grants is my analysis. And AGW is simply 'flavour of the month' so it
gets the lion's share.

Graham
 
Phil Allison wrote:

"Bob Parker"

Apparently when GGWS was shown on ABC-TV last year, the parts with Prof
Carl Wunsch were removed because the good professor later said that his
comments were edited to give the opposite impression to what he really
meant.

** Apparently that was his invented cover story for wanting to retract what
he said - after it was pointed out to him how damaging to his career it
was to be publicly identified as a AGW " sceptic ".
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I can WELL believe that !

People have lost their jobs for being critical of the AGW monster.

Graham
 
Phil Allison wrote:

"kreed"

Hm, maybe they got confused with carbon-arc lamp ? :)

** Here is the same leaflet - on the EnergyAustralia site:

http://www.energyaustralia.com.au/energy/ea.nsf/AttachmentsByTitle/CFL+Disposal/$FILE/CFL_disposal.pdf

Google turns up a few hundred hits on the phrase " carbon fluorescent " -
most of them from dopes on Green blogs but one is from a CFL maker in India
and others from local councils in the UK etc.

Crikey !!!
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Doesn't surprise me one bit. The Loonies are taking over. Look at Gore and his Nobel for example.

Graham
 
In a similar vein, I often wonder whether it is deliberate or not - the
"horrible polution" pictures we see almost every night on tv, where we
are presented with shots of the hyperbolic cooling towers at power
stations spewing forth massive clouds of ... beautiful clean steam!
Looks impressive, I must admit, but surely SOMEONE must realise?
JW˛
===
 
"JW˛" <nadejack@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
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In a similar vein, I often wonder whether it is deliberate or not - the
"horrible polution" pictures we see almost every night on tv, where we are
presented with shots of the hyperbolic cooling towers at power stations
spewing forth massive clouds of ... beautiful clean steam! Looks
impressive, I must admit, but surely SOMEONE must realise?
JW˛
===
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Same applies to the visible car exhaust on a chilly morning - its water
vapour!
 
"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4881B73B.3300DB9@hotmail.com...
kreed wrote:

Hm, maybe they got confused with carbon-arc lamp ? :)

Even seen one of those ?

Graham
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'Even'? ... did you mean 'Ever'?

There's probably a pun in that somewhere (remaining eye, etc), but I recall
they were used extensively in film, making and projecting, until HID came
along.

Chris
 
Phil Allison wrote:
Hi all,


just got a Q &A style leaflet printed by Energy Australia headed:

" CFL SAFETY "

The very first question reads:

Q. Do Carbon Fluorescent Lamps contain mercury ?



Oh dear ...........



...... Phil


Wots a flourescent lamp?
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F Murtz wrote:
Phil Allison wrote:
Hi all,


just got a Q &A style leaflet printed by Energy Australia headed:

" CFL SAFETY "

The very first question reads:

Q. Do Carbon Fluorescent Lamps contain mercury ?



Oh dear ...........



...... Phil

Wots a flourescent lamp?
Can you make a cake with it?
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JW˛ wrote:
In a similar vein, I often wonder whether it is deliberate or not - the
"horrible polution" pictures we see almost every night on tv, where we
are presented with shots of the hyperbolic cooling towers at power
stations spewing forth massive clouds of ... beautiful clean steam!
Looks impressive, I must admit, but surely SOMEONE must realise?
JW˛
===
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Not the media. They are all journalism majors. That means they were
too stupid to remember, "DOYALLWANTFRIESWITHDAT".


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Sporadic E is the Earth's aluminum foil beanie for the 'global warming'
sheep.
 
christofire wrote:
"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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kreed wrote:

Hm, maybe they got confused with carbon-arc lamp ? :)

Even seen one of those ?

Graham

'Even'? ... did you mean 'Ever'?

There's probably a pun in that somewhere (remaining eye, etc), but I recall
they were used extensively in film, making and projecting, until HID came
along.
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Stop the ignorant eye jokes. I had a palsy in my right eye early
last month, and can only use one eye and there is absolutely nothing
funny about losing depth perception, and almost half your field of view.
To add insult to injury, the remaining eye is legally blind, so I am
unable to do most things I could seven weeks ago.


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F Murtz wrote:
Can you make a cake with it?
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Yes, but it will smell bad.


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ian field wrote:

"JW˛" <nadejack@optusnet.com.au> wrote

In a similar vein, I often wonder whether it is deliberate or not - the
"horrible polution" pictures we see almost every night on tv, where we are
presented with shots of the hyperbolic cooling towers at power stations
spewing forth massive clouds of ... beautiful clean steam! Looks
impressive, I must admit, but surely SOMEONE must realise?
JW˛
===

Same applies to the visible car exhaust on a chilly morning - its water
vapour!
Click to expand...
Classic 'anything that makes a good picture' stuff. Shame CO2 isn't visible.
Even if it is responsible for anything.

Graham
 
christofire wrote:

"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote in message
kreed wrote:

Hm, maybe they got confused with carbon-arc lamp ? :)

Even seen one of those ?

'Even'? ... did you mean 'Ever'?
Click to expand...
Yes.


There's probably a pun in that somewhere (remaining eye, etc), but I recall
they were used extensively in film, making and projecting, until HID came
along.
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You bet and ancient theatre lighting too IIRC.

My school friends and I built one in our spare lab. Despite the significant
ballast resistor it still blew a fuse.

Graham
 
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