Car powered by compressed air?

[Kent Wills]

At one time, not so long ago, IMBJR <imbjr@cloon.fucker> wrote:

On Sun, 03 Apr 2011 14:00:59 -0500, Kent Wills wrote:

I'm a vegetarian

I bet you eat fish, though, like a lot of vegetarians.

Nope. I never liked fish. As such, it was the easiest of the
meats to avoid.
I don't eat eggs either, in case you wanted to know. I do
consume milk and cheese on rare occasions.

--
Always follow your dream!
Unless it's the one where you're at work in your underwear during a
fire drill.

 

[Kent Wills]

At one time, not so long ago, Chieftain of the Carpet Crawlers
<theslipperman@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote:

On Sun, 3 Apr 2011 19:04:34 +0000 (UTC), IMBJR <imbjr@cloon.fucker
wrote:

On Sun, 03 Apr 2011 14:00:59 -0500, Kent Wills wrote:

I'm a vegetarian

I bet you eat fish, though, like a lot of vegetarians.

I'll bet that you couldn't be any more of an utter retard if you tried.

His claim of a lot may be inaccurate. However, there are those
who do. Seems stupid to me, since fish is meat, but if they want to,
more power to them.
I'm not militant about my vegetarianism. I did it to lose weight
and have chosen to continue with the diet even though I realized my
weight loss goal.

--
"I could have been ambassador to Moscow by now. Maybe even Private
Secretary. Instead, I'm watching a dinosaur trash my office..."

 

[Rich Grise]

UltimatePatriot wrote:

On Thu, 31 Mar 2011 21:15:45 -0700, Rich Grise
John Larkin wrote:

... computers. Nothing ever came of it.

Did he ever get his stuff back or was he just plain fucked?

The piggery in this nation have been fucking over citizens since 1937.

What do you think the answer is?

What I "think" the answer is has no relationship whatsoever to what the
answer actually is.

But I guess that depends on what your meaning of "is" is.

Hope This Helps!
Rich

 

[JW]

On Sun, 03 Apr 2011 14:50:22 -0500 "krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz"
<krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> wrote in Message id:
<5qjhp6deu0dspbbansoeknp87kbsk4euck@4ax.com>:

On Sun, 03 Apr 2011 10:50:17 -0700, Chieftain of the Carpet Crawlers
theslipperman@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote:

On Sun, 03 Apr 2011 13:12:07 -0400, Spehro Pefhany
speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:

You are going to have a 10,000+ PSI compressor in your garage?


The tanks on the shuttle main engine are not high pressure tanks.

The shuttle's main tanks would vent into your garage, moron.

You say that like it's a *bad* thing.

 

[Don Lancaster]

Energy density of gasoline is 9600 watthours per liter.
Energy density of liquid hydrogen in theory is 2600 watthours per liter.

Effective energy density of liquid hydrogen is much, much lower, owing
to compression and system loses. As well as the obscene size increase
of the containment vessel.

There is no way in hell that ordinary hydrogen can remotely compete with
room temperature carbon bonded hydrogen for automotive vehicle apps.

http://www.tinaja.com/h2gas01.asp

Previous posts have completely missed the two monumentally stupid
reasons nobody, but nobody EVER would use liquid hydrogen for automotive
apps.

First and foremost, ALL of the energy (and then some) in liquid hydrogen
comes from oil, gas, or coal. Especially that energy used
in the methane reformation and in the electricity used for compression.

Naturally, renewable electricity is utterly and totally totally useless
for electrolysis because of the staggering loss of exergy; there ALWAYS
will be more intelligent things to do with a renewable electricity source.

Meanwhile, most thermodynamically efrficient processes have to approach
reversibility, and one good way to do this is to get and stay as
isothermal as possible. Having a super cold phase flies in the face of
all that remains sane of thermodynamics.



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[Don Lancaster]

Name one manned booster (US) that used a petroleum propellant?

100 percent of ALL the X Prize candidates.

Any more stupid questions?

--
Many thanks,

Don Lancaster voice phone: (928)428-4073
Synergetics 3860 West First Street Box 809 Thatcher, AZ 85552
rss: http://www.tinaja.com/whtnu.xml email: don@tinaja.com

Please visit my GURU's LAIR web site at http://www.tinaja.com

 

[tm]

"Don Lancaster" <don@tinaja.com> wrote in message
news:4D99CC19.2050500@tinaja.com...

Name one manned booster (US) that used a petroleum propellant?


100 percent of ALL the X Prize candidates.

Any more stupid questions?

--

You're asking "Always wrong" for a non-stupid question? That's a hoot.




tm

 

[Greegor]

Are your folks at vegan also, Kent?

Do you think Nymbecile is vegan?

 

[Zapanaz]

On Mon, 4 Apr 2011 06:22:49 -0700 (PDT), Greegor <greegor47@gmail.com>
wrote:

Are your folks at vegan also, Kent?

Do you think Nymbecile is vegan?

plonk
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Customer Support Specialist
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going to run over a lobster.
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[Zapanaz]

On Mon, 04 Apr 2011 08:43:34 -0700, Rich Grise
<richg@example.net.invalid> wrote:

Greegor wrote:

Do you think Nymbecile is vegan?

Well, there's a chance that he's from a planet in the Vega system. ;-)

Cheers!
Rich

plonk
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Customer Support Specialist
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[Rich Grise]

Greegor wrote:

Do you think Nymbecile is vegan?

Well, there's a chance that he's from a planet in the Vega system. ;-)

Cheers!
Rich

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

"krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz" wrote:

On Sun, 03 Apr 2011 09:48:50 -0700, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Sun, 03 Apr 2011 08:42:15 -0700, Don Lancaster <don@tinaja.com
wrote:

On 4/2/2011 6:44 PM, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 02 Apr 2011 17:17:12 -0700, Chieftain of the Carpet Crawlers
theslipperman@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote:

On Sat, 02 Apr 2011 17:08:12 -0700, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

vents explosive gaseous hydrogen.

That is what you mix with the air and put into the engine each time the
piston drops when the intake valve is open.

You seem to have a problem with basic premises.

What happens if you leave it in the garage for the weekend? Where does
the boiloff hydrogen go?

John



There are two flavors of hydrogen, ortho and para.

The one degrades into the other just by sitting around for a while.

We prefer the parawater, the one that comes in green bottles from
Italy.

A lot better than that stuff from Ortho.

'Ortho' needs to improve their anti-troll spray.


--
You can't fix stupid. You can't even put a Band-Aid™ on it, because it's
Teflon coated.

 

[John Larkin]

On Sat, 02 Apr 2011 22:11:14 -0700, VWWall <vwall@large.invalid>
wrote:

Don Lancaster wrote:
On 4/2/2011 12:25 PM, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 2 Apr 2011 11:19:28 -0700 (PDT), Nunya<jack_shephard@cox.net
wrote:


Hydrogen, AND AIR OR oxygen mixed is a perfect and absolutely clean
replacement fuel petrol and does the job in a standard combustion
engine with a mere brain chip change for the injectors.

A very small bottle of H will get me to work and back. No need for
vast amounts.

OK, show us the math.


John




Total bullshit.

See http://www.tinaja.com/h2gas01.asp for the arguments against hydrogen
power.

There are --> no <-- valid arguments for hydrogen power.

Meanwhile, compressed air vehicles have a ridiculous number of obvious
flaws. Three of the worst of which are the abysmal energy density of
compressed air (MUCH less than lead-acid), that there is no known way to
efficiently compress air, and the ludicrous performance of compressed
air motors.

An efficient pneumatic motor would, of course, have to always exit air
with zero velocity and zero noise, regardless of load. Which is why you
ain't gonna build a windmill with 60 percent efficiency.

Tsar Nicolas II et Jules Bonnot had an automobile that was started using
compressed air:

"Sur demande spéciale, elle est équipée d'un démarreur ŕ air comprimé
qui lui permet de se mettre en route sans aucun bruit pour ne pas
effrayer les chevaux lors des revues militaires."

http://mini.43.free.fr/delaunay.html

Actually, stopping and re-starting the engine could decrease fuel usage
in start-stop usage. Compressed air is not the way to do this however.
Even the common lead-acid battery, a high speed flywheel or even a wound
spring might be better. (It might scare the horses!)

Aren't some big diesels started with compressed air?

John

 

[VWWall]

John Larkin wrote:

On Sat, 02 Apr 2011 22:11:14 -0700, VWWall <vwall@large.invalid
wrote:

Don Lancaster wrote:
On 4/2/2011 12:25 PM, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 2 Apr 2011 11:19:28 -0700 (PDT), Nunya<jack_shephard@cox.net
wrote:

Hydrogen, AND AIR OR oxygen mixed is a perfect and absolutely clean
replacement fuel petrol and does the job in a standard combustion
engine with a mere brain chip change for the injectors.

A very small bottle of H will get me to work and back. No need for
vast amounts.
OK, show us the math.


John



Total bullshit.

See http://www.tinaja.com/h2gas01.asp for the arguments against hydrogen
power.

There are --> no <-- valid arguments for hydrogen power.

Meanwhile, compressed air vehicles have a ridiculous number of obvious
flaws. Three of the worst of which are the abysmal energy density of
compressed air (MUCH less than lead-acid), that there is no known way to
efficiently compress air, and the ludicrous performance of compressed
air motors.

An efficient pneumatic motor would, of course, have to always exit air
with zero velocity and zero noise, regardless of load. Which is why you
ain't gonna build a windmill with 60 percent efficiency.

Tsar Nicolas II et Jules Bonnot had an automobile that was started using
compressed air:

"Sur demande spéciale, elle est équipée d'un démarreur ŕ air comprimé
qui lui permet de se mettre en route sans aucun bruit pour ne pas
effrayer les chevaux lors des revues militaires."

http://mini.43.free.fr/delaunay.html

Actually, stopping and re-starting the engine could decrease fuel usage
in start-stop usage. Compressed air is not the way to do this however.
Even the common lead-acid battery, a high speed flywheel or even a wound
spring might be better. (It might scare the horses!)

Aren't some big diesels started with compressed air?

John

The big rigs already have compressed air and the storage tank for it

used for braking. They don't try to replenish the air supply by
"regenerative braking", as electric vehicles replenish battery charge.
This sort of thing is needed if the idea is to improve energy use in the
"start-stop" situation.

--
Virg Wall

 

[Spehro Pefhany]

On Mon, 04 Apr 2011 13:58:18 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
<mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

"krw@att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz" wrote:

On Sun, 03 Apr 2011 09:48:50 -0700, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Sun, 03 Apr 2011 08:42:15 -0700, Don Lancaster <don@tinaja.com
wrote:

On 4/2/2011 6:44 PM, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 02 Apr 2011 17:17:12 -0700, Chieftain of the Carpet Crawlers
theslipperman@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote:

On Sat, 02 Apr 2011 17:08:12 -0700, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

vents explosive gaseous hydrogen.

That is what you mix with the air and put into the engine each time the
piston drops when the intake valve is open.

You seem to have a problem with basic premises.

What happens if you leave it in the garage for the weekend? Where does
the boiloff hydrogen go?

John



There are two flavors of hydrogen, ortho and para.

The one degrades into the other just by sitting around for a while.

We prefer the parawater, the one that comes in green bottles from
Italy.

A lot better than that stuff from Ortho.


'Ortho' needs to improve their anti-troll spray.

But Ortho makes birth contr.... oh, I see.

 

[langwadt@fonz.dk]

On 4 Apr., 21:15, John Larkin
<jjlar...@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Sat, 02 Apr 2011 22:11:14 -0700, VWWall <vw...@large.invalid
wrote:



Don Lancaster wrote:
On 4/2/2011 12:25 PM, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 2 Apr 2011 11:19:28 -0700 (PDT), Nunya<jack_sheph...@cox.net
wrote:

  Hydrogen, AND AIR OR oxygen mixed is a perfect and absolutely clean
replacement fuel petrol and does the job in a standard combustion
engine with a mere brain chip change for the injectors.

  A very small bottle of H will get me to work and back.  No need for
vast amounts.

OK, show us the math.

John

Total bullshit.

Seehttp://www.tinaja.com/h2gas01.aspfor the arguments against hydrogen
power.

There are --> no <--  valid arguments for hydrogen power.

Meanwhile, compressed air vehicles have a ridiculous number of obvious
flaws. Three of the worst of which are the abysmal energy density of
compressed air (MUCH less than lead-acid), that there is no known way to
efficiently compress air, and the ludicrous performance of compressed
air motors.

An efficient pneumatic motor would, of course, have to always exit air
with zero velocity and zero noise, regardless of load. Which is why you
ain't gonna build a windmill with 60 percent efficiency.

Tsar Nicolas II et Jules Bonnot had an automobile that was started using
compressed air:

"Sur demande spéciale, elle est équipée d'un démarreur ŕ air comprimé
qui lui permet de se mettre en route sans aucun bruit pour ne pas
effrayer les chevaux lors des revues militaires."

http://mini.43.free.fr/delaunay.html

Actually, stopping and re-starting the engine could decrease fuel usage
 in start-stop usage.  Compressed air is not the way to do this however.
Even the common lead-acid battery, a high speed flywheel or even a wound
spring might be better.  (It might scare the horses!)

Aren't some big diesels started with compressed air?

John

know big ship engines are, also seen it used on cars used in a coal
mine

-Lasse

 

[Kabuki Bob]

On Apr 2, 5:12 pm, Greegor <greego...@gmail.com> wrote:

G > Hey Archie, rub up REALLY close to Maureen McAllister!

Moe >  He greg run and hide like the coward you are.

G > You're just engaging in wishful thinking!

Moe > More like your usual tactic when
Moe > faced with the truth about you.
Moe > You've done that so many times before.

G > Nice bluff, but what if I challenged you
G > to post a link showing where I ran and hid.

G > If I did it so "many times before", that should be easy!

G > Have you told Nymbecile why you're so PO'd at me?

Moe >  Your claims and distortions noted.

G > It was a question.

Moe > In your " question" you made claims.
Moe > Quit lying.

Are you saying your not PO'd at me?

No I am not. At worst you are like a poison ivy itch, slightly
annoying but of no consequence.

What other "claims" did my question make?

You implied a few things, a tactic that is usual for you in your "
game".

Now that I answered two of your que stons, how about answering some of
mine I asked you?

Not a chance, I know, but then I know how much of a coward you really
are.

Moe

 

[Greegor]

G > Do you think Nymbecile is vegan?

RG > Well, there's a chance that he's
RG > from a planet in the Vega system. ;-)

Archie, are you a vegan, in either sense?

 

[Kabuki Bob]

On Apr 3, 10:43 am, Kent Wills <compu...@gmail.com> wrote:

At one time, not so long ago, Kabuki Bob <fvrn...@yahoo.com> wrote:

Good job, greegor, aka Gregory Scott Hanson.  I rest my case.  You dumb
sumbitch!  Bwuahahahahahahahahaa!

     Greg is stupid.  The mental retardation he displays on-line is
NOT an act.

He is stupid. Witness his recent crap about my former Centruyel
internet account and my new Verizon internet account. He's so stupid
he doesn't know which type of service I used in each case.

     I would have thought Greg would realize that neither cable nor
DSL goes to rural areas, like the one he claims for your residence.

If I had lived where he claims it would have been too far outside the
town to get cable service or a DSL line. A simpleton like greg
couldn't even figure the obvious out.

     Now he's in a bind.  He has claimed you live somewhere you can't
possibly live, given the Internet access he claims you had and helped
prove you currently have.

True, but you know his standard response-- ignore and evade.

     As I've said before, if he ever should get accurate information
about the location of either or both of us, no one will believe him.
He's lied far too many times.

He always lies. Not only that but his cyberstalking is so bad its
laughable. At one point he actually was ciaming I had three different
ages, all for one person.

My current IP shows Highland Park, Texas. Assuming he is smart enough
to figure that out,he should be smart enough to figure out why it
shows that specific IP address.

     I think I'll bring this up with him in replies and watch him run
and HIDE from the TRUTH he helped to bring forth.

A select number of items that really are about Gregory Scott "Piggly
Wiggly" Hanson (Greg states they are as believable as the comment that
water is wet):

Title: ST VS GREGORY HANSON
      (DOB 05/22/1959)
CRIMINAL COMPLAINT   04/10/1996
     Comments: CT 1 OWI 1ST
OTHER CITATION   04/10/1996
     Comments: CT 2 SPEED
Disposition Status
     GUILTY PLEA/DEFAULT

"That's the chick, but not the pic, zipperhead!"
    Greg "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson proving his bigotry towards Asians, by
attacking my first wife (deceased).http://www.rsdb.org/search?q=zipperhead

Me:  "I suspect your stalking is due to the use and abuse of illegal
drugs, Greg.  Is the reason for your stalking the members of
alt.friends due to the use and abuse of illegal drugs?

Gregory Scott "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson, wife beater and child abuser:
"Of course."

"My family's case is for Neglect, but we are treated
in virtually every regard as child abusers, marked on
the Child Abuse registry, for example."
   -- Gregory Scott "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson, wife beater and child
abuser

" ... But there ought to be conferences and studies on how to curb
minority overpopulation, repatriate minorities abroad, imprison more
minorities, increase use of the death penalty and divest minorities of
the power they have usurped over us in recent years. That would
address the most pressing problems of our day. ... "
                         April 2000, Gregory Hansonhttp://www.nationalist.org/ATW/2000/040101.html#Hanson

Path:
news.datemas.de!newsfeed.datemas.de!goblin1!goblin.stu.neva.ru!postnews.google.com!y21g2000yqn.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail
From: Greegor <greego...@gmail.com
Newsgroups:
misc.kids,alt.support.foster-parents,uk.people.parents,alt.support.child-protective-services

With the Christmas season upon us again, my stepdaughter was launching
into her usual tirade of "I need this" (Nintendo 64 games, Pokemon,
videos, Rhianna CD, etc.)  After enduring a trip through Kmart, I
was at my wits end.  I took the kid home and filled the bathtub with
water.  Then I dunked the brat's head under the water and counted out
a full minute, with her flailing her arms.  I brought her up and she
gasped for air.  When she'd caught her breath, I asked her,  "When you
were under that water, did you 'need' Nintendo?  Pokemon?  Rhianna?"
She shook her head.  "What were you thinking about?" I
prodded.  She told me "I was thinking that I needed air."

"Now you know the difference between 'need' and 'want'" I exclaimed
triumphantly.

--a true story

As of Sunday, Feb. 27, 2011:

SMALL CLAIMS ORIGINAL NOTICE    
     Comments: OPA $2805.04
     COPIES TO PA
     VERIFICATION OF ACCOUNT

JUDGEMENT DEFAULT
     Comments: JUDGMENT AGAINST GREGORY HANSON FOR $2805.04
               + INTEREST AT 7.271% FROM 8/6/98 & $45.00 COSTS.

Comments: NOTE OF GARN/NOTE TO DEFT SERV 9/24/98 BY WCSD
          TO SYSTEMS MANAGEMENT (ED POLKERS) FOR GREG HANSON
          FEES $35.60

Gregory Scott "Piggly Wiggly" Hanson has a Garnishment order against
him.  There is nothing to even suggest any of the money legally owed
has been paid. The SoL on the order has likely expired, but Greg still
can't risk getting a job due to it.

 

[Greegor]

G > Have you told Nymbecile why you're so PO'd at me?

Moe >  Your claims and distortions noted.

G > It was a question.

Moe > In your " question" you made claims.
Moe > Quit lying.

G > Are you saying your not PO'd at me?

Moe > No I am not. At worst you are like
Moe > a poison ivy itch, slightly annoying
Moe > but of no consequence.

I'm sure you're used having a rash.

G > What other "claims" did my question make?

Moe >  You implied a few things,

You failed to answer the question.

Moe > a tactic that is usual for you in your "game".

Moe > Now that I answered two of your que stons,

You evaded the question about what
other "claims" my question made.

Moe > how about answering some of
Moe > mine I asked you?

Moe > Not a chance, I know, but then
Moe > I know how much of a coward
Moe > you really are.

You are full of usenet bravado.