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Jeff Liebermann
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On Mon, 13 Oct 2014 17:35:14 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
wrote:
Here's the UK numbers for incidence of brain cancer and tumors:
<http://www.cancerresearchuk.org/cancer-info/cancerstats/types/brain/incidence/uk-brain-and-central-nervous-system-cancer-incidence-statistics#Trends>
The various graphs show much the same lack of a radical increase in
brain cancers with the introduction of cell phones, and the radical
increase in incidence that accompanies aging. No sign in the graphs
of any 490% increase among teenagers using cell phones for 10 years.
I was somewhat off on the tx power of a cordless phone and cell phone.
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DBm>
DECT tx power: 10 mW (250 mW peak) in Europe
4 mW (100 mW peak) in the US
For cell phones: 100 mW avg (2 watt max) for 800/900 MHz band
100 mw avg (1 watt max) for 1900/1800 MHz band
UMTS/3G phones are a bit different:
1 watt - Power Class 1 mobile
500 mW - Power Class 2 mobile
250 mW - Power Class 3 mobile
Bluetooth: 100 mW - Class 1
2.5 mW - Class 2
1 mW - Class 3
The tx power of a cell phone is controlled by the cell site and is
usually set for the lowest tx power needed to maintain a minimum BER
(bit error rate). If you can get into the "Field Test Mode", you can
display that power output:
<http://www.wilsonelectronics.com/uploads/docs/FieldTestModes06142010%20wilson004.pdf>
My junk LG VX8300 started out showing about -9dBW (126 mW). After
about 30 seconds, the TX power settled down to about -15dBW (32 mW)
and stayed there (as long as I didn't move).
--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
wrote:
On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 09:07:27 +1100, Robert Wade <rwade@santos.com
wrote:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/8606104/Mobile-phones-cause-five-fold-increase-in-brain-cancer-risk.html
People who started using mobiles as teenagers, and have done so for at
least 10 years, were 4.9 times more likely to develop astrocytoma,
compared to controls.
Here's the UK numbers for incidence of brain cancer and tumors:
<http://www.cancerresearchuk.org/cancer-info/cancerstats/types/brain/incidence/uk-brain-and-central-nervous-system-cancer-incidence-statistics#Trends>
The various graphs show much the same lack of a radical increase in
brain cancers with the introduction of cell phones, and the radical
increase in incidence that accompanies aging. No sign in the graphs
of any 490% increase among teenagers using cell phones for 10 years.
Worringly, the comparable figure for cordless home phones - which are
very similar to mobiles in terms of radiation emission - was almost as
high, at 3.9.
I was somewhat off on the tx power of a cordless phone and cell phone.
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DBm>
DECT tx power: 10 mW (250 mW peak) in Europe
4 mW (100 mW peak) in the US
For cell phones: 100 mW avg (2 watt max) for 800/900 MHz band
100 mw avg (1 watt max) for 1900/1800 MHz band
UMTS/3G phones are a bit different:
1 watt - Power Class 1 mobile
500 mW - Power Class 2 mobile
250 mW - Power Class 3 mobile
Bluetooth: 100 mW - Class 1
2.5 mW - Class 2
1 mW - Class 3
The tx power of a cell phone is controlled by the cell site and is
usually set for the lowest tx power needed to maintain a minimum BER
(bit error rate). If you can get into the "Field Test Mode", you can
display that power output:
<http://www.wilsonelectronics.com/uploads/docs/FieldTestModes06142010%20wilson004.pdf>
My junk LG VX8300 started out showing about -9dBW (126 mW). After
about 30 seconds, the TX power settled down to about -15dBW (32 mW)
and stayed there (as long as I didn't move).
--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558