Brother MFC laser "cycles" a few times per day, why?

[Martin Brown]

On 06/12/2013 01:47, John Larkin wrote:

On Thu, 05 Dec 2013 15:35:52 -0800, Joerg <invalid@invalid.invalid
wrote:

It began last week. The Brother MFC-7820N multifunction laser printer
starts up out of the blue and sounds as if it wants to print something.
Fan comes on, display lights up, motors in there run. But no paper comes
out and nobody requested any print via the LAN. Then it goes idle again
as if nothing had happened. I know that ink jets do that to keep
cartridges primed but lasers normally don't, and this Brother printer
never did that before. It's about five years old.

Could it be power dips due to capacitor plague? Did someone experience
it? Not that it bothers me much but if this is a sign that something is
going to fail soon I may have to reach in there.

If there is an internal bronwout the CPU generally notices that it was
rebooted by the watchdog tiimer and grumbles on the lCD display or
flashes the lights in a distinctive "I'm unhappy" pattern.

My HP CP1525's (color laser) do that all the time. Start up for no
reason, make a bunch of noise, then shut down.

That tends to be something daft going on in the power management of
another networked PC somewhere. Some of them broadcast the equivalent of
"wake up" to all peripherals at the least provocation. I have known
certain (broken) printer drivers that did that all the time on Vista
even when they were *supposed* to be printing a real job!

You may find that it doesn't do it when isolated from the network / USB
connection to a PC. Check power management settings.

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[RobertMacy]

On Thu, 05 Dec 2013 21:04:32 -0700, Joerg <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:

...snip...
The strange thing is that it's random. It hasn't done this the first
five years. Then during the day it's different, for example three such
cycles this morning but none from noon until now (eight hours).

*IF* related to capacitor failures, then what happens when you shut down,
let cool, and turn on?

Interesting you mention time of day:
*IF* related to maintaining some type of standby temperature to keep ready
for printing, Has the room ambient changed? Temperature sensor?
temperature setting? Our ambient house temp has dropped from 82-88 down
into the 78 - 82 range we all to follow the outside temps ...a bit. You
can't believe how happy all the electronics have become.

 

[Joerg]

Joerg wrote:

It began last week. The Brother MFC-7820N multifunction laser printer
starts up out of the blue and sounds as if it wants to print something.
Fan comes on, display lights up, motors in there run. But no paper comes
out and nobody requested any print via the LAN. Then it goes idle again
as if nothing had happened. I know that ink jets do that to keep
cartridges primed but lasers normally don't, and this Brother printer
never did that before. It's about five years old.

Could it be power dips due to capacitor plague? Did someone experience
it? Not that it bothers me much but if this is a sign that something is
going to fail soon I may have to reach in there.

Gents, I think the printer may have given the answer in one last
message. This morning it kept cycling every few minutes. Turned it off,
back on ... only the display backlight is left, otherwise dead. I am not
sure I want to repair it.

Does anyone know if the Brother software on the individualy PCs also
works with other models?

--
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[Joerg]

Joerg wrote:

It began last week. The Brother MFC-7820N multifunction laser printer
starts up out of the blue and sounds as if it wants to print something.
Fan comes on, display lights up, motors in there run. But no paper comes
out and nobody requested any print via the LAN. Then it goes idle again
as if nothing had happened. I know that ink jets do that to keep
cartridges primed but lasers normally don't, and this Brother printer
never did that before. It's about five years old.

Could it be power dips due to capacitor plague? Did someone experience
it? Not that it bothers me much but if this is a sign that something is
going to fail soon I may have to reach in there.

Does anyone know whether Brother TN450 and TN350 toner cartridges are
interchangeable (disregarding toner amount)? Mostly, whether a TN350
goes into a TN450 slot.

Reason is that newer printers seem to all employ the TN450 and that
would render already bought TN350 useless. From pictures they look very
similar.

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[Jeff Liebermann]

On Fri, 06 Dec 2013 07:40:02 -0700, RobertMacy
<robert.a.macy@gmail.com> wrote:

*IF* related to capacitor failures, then what happens when you shut down,
let cool, and turn on?

I maintain several businesses that are just stuffed full of various
model Brother laser printers. I won't say anything nice about Brother
printer mechanical reliability, but I've seen no bulging caps or
similar failures on any of their models. Capacitor failure is of
course possible, but unlikely. If I search for "Brother laser printer
bulging capacitor" or run similar searches, I find nothing.



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[Jeff Liebermann]

On Fri, 06 Dec 2013 08:05:32 -0800, Joerg <invalid@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

Gents, I think the printer may have given the answer in one last
message. This morning it kept cycling every few minutes. Turned it off,
back on ... only the display backlight is left, otherwise dead.

Well, that's a new one for me. I deal with about 100 assorted Brother
lasers printers and haven't seen that yet. Something died. The
symptoms sound like the high-ESR electrolytic in the power supply. The
ESR is reasonably low when hot, but when cold, the ESR climbs.

I am not
sure I want to repair it.

At the price of a replacement AOI printer, it's probably not worth it.
<www.staples.com/Brother-Refurbished-MFC-7360N-Laser-Multifunction-Printer/product_424336>

Does anyone know if the Brother software on the individualy PCs also
works with other models?

Some parts work, others don't. The BRadmin software is uniform across
the most of the small AOI machines. The individual print drivers are
not uniform. To avoid the inevitable mess, I suggest you uninstall
everything, and reinstall from the replacement printer CD. Then,
update online. Be sure to check for firmware updates.


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[Jeff Liebermann]

On Fri, 06 Dec 2013 08:33:55 -0800, Joerg <invalid@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

Does anyone know whether Brother TN450 and TN350 toner cartridges are
interchangeable (disregarding toner amount)? Mostly, whether a TN350
goes into a TN450 slot.

I'm about 90% certain that they are NOT interchangeable. The TN420 is
the underfilled "starter" cart version of the TN450. The TN420 can be
refilled to full capacity by installing the missing gears on the cart.
It's not worth the effort since clone TN450 carts are available on
eBay for about $15. Random example:
<http://www.ebay.com/itm/141113834867> Two for $25.
There were "starter" cart versions of the TN350, but they were sold
under the same TN350 part number. I have both TN350 and TN450 carts
in the office. Let me know if you want me to try it.

Reason is that newer printers seem to all employ the TN450 and that
would render already bought TN350 useless. From pictures they look very
similar.

For the very low cost of an eBay cart, I don't think it's worthwhile
trying to preserve your investment in TN350 carts, unless you have a
large quantity.

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[Joerg]

Jeff Liebermann wrote:

On Fri, 06 Dec 2013 08:05:32 -0800, Joerg <invalid@invalid.invalid
wrote:

Gents, I think the printer may have given the answer in one last
message. This morning it kept cycling every few minutes. Turned it off,
back on ... only the display backlight is left, otherwise dead.

Well, that's a new one for me. I deal with about 100 assorted Brother
lasers printers and haven't seen that yet. Something died. The
symptoms sound like the high-ESR electrolytic in the power supply. The
ESR is reasonably low when hot, but when cold, the ESR climbs.

I am not
sure I want to repair it.

At the price of a replacement AOI printer, it's probably not worth it.
www.staples.com/Brother-Refurbished-MFC-7360N-Laser-Multifunction-Printer/product_424336

Well, I don't like refurb for gear with lots of mechanical stuff in
there and the electronics boards are that long-lived either. I can get
an older model new MFC for that price.

Does anyone know if the Brother software on the individualy PCs also
works with other models?

Some parts work, others don't. The BRadmin software is uniform across
the most of the small AOI machines. The individual print drivers are
not uniform. To avoid the inevitable mess, I suggest you uninstall
everything, and reinstall from the replacement printer CD. Then,
update online. Be sure to check for firmware updates.

The driver needs to be re-installed, that's for sure. For scanning I use
the Brother Control Center, hopefully that can stay. It only shows the
MFC-7820N as available but maybe it will recognize the new one.

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[Joerg]

Jeff Liebermann wrote:

On Fri, 06 Dec 2013 08:33:55 -0800, Joerg <invalid@invalid.invalid
wrote:

Does anyone know whether Brother TN450 and TN350 toner cartridges are
interchangeable (disregarding toner amount)? Mostly, whether a TN350
goes into a TN450 slot.

I'm about 90% certain that they are NOT interchangeable. The TN420 is
the underfilled "starter" cart version of the TN450. The TN420 can be
refilled to full capacity by installing the missing gears on the cart.
It's not worth the effort since clone TN450 carts are available on
eBay for about $15. Random example:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/141113834867> Two for $25.
There were "starter" cart versions of the TN350, but they were sold
under the same TN350 part number. I have both TN350 and TN450 carts
in the office. Let me know if you want me to try it.

Reason is that newer printers seem to all employ the TN450 and that
would render already bought TN350 useless. From pictures they look very
similar.

For the very low cost of an eBay cart, I don't think it's worthwhile
trying to preserve your investment in TN350 carts, unless you have a
large quantity.

I think you are right, I'll just order a new one then. Is it worth
salvaging any other parts in the 7820N if I get a 7460DN?

Interestingly, they offer a 3rd party 2-year warranty for around $9 with
covered shipping, might be worth it.

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[Jasen Betts]

On 2013-12-06, Joerg <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:

Greegor wrote:
Sounds plausible but has only just started happening ??


It did, after never cycling for five years.

Toner was changed a couple years ago. This printer is also some kind of
eco model so it doesn't keep stuff hot all the time. Uses just a few
watts when in standby (then it acts also as a fax machine listening to
the phone line).

Perhaps there's a warm standby feature that was recently enabled.

could it br responding to something it's hearing on the phonne line?


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[Jon Elson]

Joerg wrote:

It began last week. The Brother MFC-7820N multifunction laser printer
starts up out of the blue and sounds as if it wants to print something.
Fan comes on, display lights up, motors in there run. But no paper comes
out and nobody requested any print via the LAN. Then it goes idle again
as if nothing had happened. I know that ink jets do that to keep
cartridges primed but lasers normally don't, and this Brother printer
never did that before. It's about five years old.

Could it be power dips due to capacitor plague? Did someone experience
it? Not that it bothers me much but if this is a sign that something is
going to fail soon I may have to reach in there.

Are you absolutely sure it never did this before?
Most laser printers, if left on all the time, will
turn the photoconductor drum/belt every few hours to
make sure they don't stick to the wiper blades. If the
wiper blade sticks, it can destroy the blade or photoconductor.
Of course, the printers survive being turned off for a week
with no damage, so I don't know how important this cycling
could be. Usually, HP printers just make a soft clunk, they only
move the motor a few degrees and don't power up the rest of the
stuff.

Jon

 

[Joerg]

Joerg wrote:

It began last week. The Brother MFC-7820N multifunction laser printer
starts up out of the blue and sounds as if it wants to print something.
Fan comes on, display lights up, motors in there run. But no paper comes
out and nobody requested any print via the LAN. Then it goes idle again
as if nothing had happened. I know that ink jets do that to keep
cartridges primed but lasers normally don't, and this Brother printer
never did that before. It's about five years old.

Could it be power dips due to capacitor plague? Did someone experience
it? Not that it bothers me much but if this is a sign that something is
going to fail soon I may have to reach in there.

I just ordered a Canon MF4890dw since the Brother model I was after went
out of stock during the few minutes (literally) I spent perusing its PDF
manual. The good thing is that this one not only has duplex printing but
also duplex intake on the sheet feeder for scan and copy.

My hope is also that the mechanical quality is a tad better, similar to
my first Canon copier. That thing was nearly indestructable.

--
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http://www.analogconsultants.com/

 

[Jeff Liebermann]

On Fri, 06 Dec 2013 11:01:08 -0800, Joerg <invalid@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

At the price of a replacement AOI printer, it's probably not worth it.
www.staples.com/Brother-Refurbished-MFC-7360N-Laser-Multifunction-Printer/product_424336

Well, I don't like refurb for gear with lots of mechanical stuff in
there and the electronics boards are that long-lived either. I can get
an older model new MFC for that price.

I've had no out of the box failures buying that exact model as a
refurbished printer. I think I've resold about 8 of those printers so
far. The regular price is $169 instead of $129. You're going to have
difficulty finding a different AOI laser printer at the same price. As
far as I can tell, the only difference between refurb and regular is
the length of the warranty. As far as I can tell, the printers have
never been out of the box or used.

The only problems I've had with refurbished Brother printers was with
this color laser:
<http://www.staples.com/Brother-Refurbished-EMFC-9325cw-Color-Laser-All-in-One-Printer/product_125550>
There are some really flimsy parts on the toner carts, which I think
got mangled during manufacture. I had to buy a replacement yellow
cart (4 colors for about $60). However, I don't recommend this
printer because the print quality was marginal the 3 printers that
I've resold.

The driver needs to be re-installed, that's for sure. For scanning I use
the Brother Control Center, hopefully that can stay. It only shows the
MFC-7820N as available but maybe it will recognize the new one.

Good luck. If Windoze, make a backup of the registry before
proceeding. If it's HP printer software, make several backups.

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[Joerg]

Jeff Liebermann wrote:

On Fri, 06 Dec 2013 11:01:08 -0800, Joerg <invalid@invalid.invalid
wrote:

At the price of a replacement AOI printer, it's probably not worth it.
www.staples.com/Brother-Refurbished-MFC-7360N-Laser-Multifunction-Printer/product_424336

Well, I don't like refurb for gear with lots of mechanical stuff in
there and the electronics boards are that long-lived either. I can get
an older model new MFC for that price.

I've had no out of the box failures buying that exact model as a
refurbished printer. I think I've resold about 8 of those printers so
far. The regular price is $169 instead of $129. You're going to have
difficulty finding a different AOI laser printer at the same price. ...

The 7460 was available at $129 and then .. poof .. sold out in minutes
while I was reading something in its PDF manual. Later it showed up for
$169. The 7360 is $129 (or at least was a few hours ago) on Amazon but
no duplex printing.

... As
far as I can tell, the only difference between refurb and regular is
the length of the warranty. As far as I can tell, the printers have
never been out of the box or used.

I really want that one year warranty because then my credit card pops
that up to two years.

The only problems I've had with refurbished Brother printers was with
this color laser:
http://www.staples.com/Brother-Refurbished-EMFC-9325cw-Color-Laser-All-in-One-Printer/product_125550
There are some really flimsy parts on the toner carts, which I think
got mangled during manufacture. I had to buy a replacement yellow
cart (4 colors for about $60). However, I don't recommend this
printer because the print quality was marginal the 3 printers that
I've resold.

The driver needs to be re-installed, that's for sure. For scanning I use
the Brother Control Center, hopefully that can stay. It only shows the
MFC-7820N as available but maybe it will recognize the new one.

Good luck. If Windoze, make a backup of the registry before
proceeding. If it's HP printer software, make several backups.

Thanks. Since the 7460 went out of stock within minutes and then later
popped up $40 I ordered a Canon MF4890dw for $190. Its user interface
and SW seems to be a bit on the clumsy side. AFAIU you have to walk over
to the printer and switch it to scan, then scan, walk over again and
switch to normal mode. Oh well, good exercise to get out of the chair.
Toner is more costly but I am hoping for a little better quality. What
really sold me on it was the duplex intake for the scan/copy sheet
feeder. I had a Canon copier in the 90's and it was super quality.

The Brother MFC-7820N was good to me but did have occasional issues
after power failures and also a few paper jams on the intake side.

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[Jeff Liebermann]

On Fri, 06 Dec 2013 11:17:41 -0800, Joerg <invalid@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

I think you are right, I'll just order a new one then. Is it worth
salvaging any other parts in the 7820N if I get a 7460DN?

I don't know. I think the fuser assembly might be the interchageable.
Possibly, the rubber feed rollers are removable. I can't check right
now. I can probably fix it, but my profit will probably equal the
shipping cost.

The difference between the MFC-7460DN and the MFC-7360N that I
suggested is that the 7460DN does does double sided printing and is
slightly faster (27 ppm versus 24 ppm).
<http://www.staples.com/Brother-MFC-7460DN-Laser-Multi-Function-Printer/product_918016>

I just checked my pile of Brother carts. The TN-350 is VERY different
from the TN-450. The TN-350 is made to piggyback on the DR-350
selenium drum assembly to form the toner cartridge. The TN-450 has
everything in one package. They are not interchangeable.

Interestingly, they offer a 3rd party 2-year warranty for around $9 with
covered shipping, might be worth it.

Careful. The problem is that some require a "deductable" for a
replacement printer. You end up paying them roughly the used printer
price for a replacement. There are also other scams. However, for
$9, it seems low risk.

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[Jeff Liebermann]

On Fri, 06 Dec 2013 13:32:59 -0800, Joerg <invalid@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

I just ordered a Canon MF4890dw since the Brother model I was after went
out of stock during the few minutes (literally) I spent perusing its PDF
manual. The good thing is that this one not only has duplex printing but
also duplex intake on the sheet feeder for scan and copy.

My hope is also that the mechanical quality is a tad better, similar to
my first Canon copier. That thing was nearly indestructable.

Sigh. Too late.
<http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/consumer/products/printers_multifunction/black_white_laser_multifunction/imageclass_mf4890dw>
$200 retail. About 50% more expensive.

I have two customers with slightly earlier models and one with a
recently purchased Canon MF4890dw. They seem reliable and do not
break without user assistance. They are certainly not indestructible.
I've replaced the hinges on one printer and removed coffee (sugar)
damage from the other. They're very different from the older Canon
LBP-xxxx series printers, which could probably survive a nuclear
attack.

My main objection to these printers was the older 105 toner cartridge,
which bypassed so much toner into the waste bin, that I would often
see lengthwise smearing before it would run out of toner. Refilling
105 carts was difficult, messy, tedious, and irritating. The design
of the cart stunk. Fortunately, I can now get refills for $15/ea.

I also had problems with front panel operation, which I considered
convoluted and complexicated when compared to the Brother printers.
The printer made quite a bit of noise when operating which is still a
problem at a dental office. The scanner section sucks but is usable.
The hopper feed likes to jam and the duplex scan is painfully slow.

The MF4890DW uses the newer 128 cartridge, which I haven't had the
pleasure of dissecting yet. They do look similar, but hopefully, the
128 will be an improvement over the 105 cartridge. Same price $15 for
refills on eBay.

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Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
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[Joerg]

Jeff Liebermann wrote:

On Fri, 06 Dec 2013 11:17:41 -0800, Joerg <invalid@invalid.invalid
wrote:

I think you are right, I'll just order a new one then. Is it worth
salvaging any other parts in the 7820N if I get a 7460DN?

I don't know. I think the fuser assembly might be the interchageable.
Possibly, the rubber feed rollers are removable. I can't check right
now. I can probably fix it, but my profit will probably equal the
shipping cost.

The difference between the MFC-7460DN and the MFC-7360N that I
suggested is that the 7460DN does does double sided printing and is
slightly faster (27 ppm versus 24 ppm).

I don't care about speed but double-sided printing is something I need a
lot. So far I always had to do the "print odd then even pages" and turn
the stack around in the paper feed reservoir. Which resulted in numerous
paper jams if I didn't wait long enough to let the curl sag back out.

http://www.staples.com/Brother-MFC-7460DN-Laser-Multi-Function-Printer/product_918016

I just checked my pile of Brother carts. The TN-350 is VERY different
from the TN-450. The TN-350 is made to piggyback on the DR-350
selenium drum assembly to form the toner cartridge. The TN-450 has
everything in one package. They are not interchangeable.

Thanks for checking but meantime I have ordered a Canon MF4890dw.

Interestingly, they offer a 3rd party 2-year warranty for around $9 with
covered shipping, might be worth it.

Careful. The problem is that some require a "deductable" for a
replacement printer. You end up paying them roughly the used printer
price for a replacement. There are also other scams. However, for
$9, it seems low risk.

I looked at the fine print and this one seemed ok, they even paid for
shipping if they wanted it back.

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[Joerg]

Jeff Liebermann wrote:

On Fri, 06 Dec 2013 13:32:59 -0800, Joerg <invalid@invalid.invalid
wrote:

I just ordered a Canon MF4890dw since the Brother model I was after went
out of stock during the few minutes (literally) I spent perusing its PDF
manual. The good thing is that this one not only has duplex printing but
also duplex intake on the sheet feeder for scan and copy.

My hope is also that the mechanical quality is a tad better, similar to
my first Canon copier. That thing was nearly indestructable.

Sigh. Too late.
http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/consumer/products/printers_multifunction/black_white_laser_multifunction/imageclass_mf4890dw
$200 retail. About 50% more expensive.

I paid $190 plus tax, Brother didn't have anything that compared right now.

I have two customers with slightly earlier models and one with a
recently purchased Canon MF4890dw. They seem reliable and do not
break without user assistance. They are certainly not indestructible.
I've replaced the hinges on one printer and removed coffee (sugar)
damage from the other. They're very different from the older Canon
LBP-xxxx series printers, which could probably survive a nuclear
attack.

That's how my Canon copier was, could probably have survived a collision
with a Russian tank. But the printer will be in a no-coffee zone.

My main objection to these printers was the older 105 toner cartridge,
which bypassed so much toner into the waste bin, that I would often
see lengthwise smearing before it would run out of toner. Refilling
105 carts was difficult, messy, tedious, and irritating. The design
of the cart stunk. Fortunately, I can now get refills for $15/ea.

I've once tried to refill a HP cartridge but I must have gotten the
wrong kind of toner because it didn't print at all after that.

I also had problems with front panel operation, which I considered
convoluted and complexicated when compared to the Brother printers.
The printer made quite a bit of noise when operating which is still a
problem at a dental office. The scanner section sucks but is usable.
The hopper feed likes to jam and the duplex scan is painfully slow.

The low noise level was actually lauded in several reviews. The
MFC-7820N was noisy while printing. Sits 4ft from my chair but that
never bothered me.

The MF4890DW uses the newer 128 cartridge, which I haven't had the
pleasure of dissecting yet. They do look similar, but hopefully, the
128 will be an improvement over the 105 cartridge. Same price $15 for
refills on eBay.

I don't want to send out cartridges for refill and don't have an Ebay
account. So I'll have to find a good off-brand toner supplier because
the original is around $70. This looks good:

http://www.amazon.com/Blake-Printing-Supply-3500B001AA-Compatible/dp/B008IK3G1O/ref=sr_1_2/190-4012021-8898212?ie=UTF8&qid=1386376000&sr=8-2&keywords=Canon+128

When buying from Amazon there is usually a good exchange policy,
hopefully also if they are just the fulfillment entity. With Brother the
original was always $40-50 so I never looked for off-brand.

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[Tom Del Rosso]

Joerg wrote:

The strange thing is that it's random. It hasn't done this the first
five years. Then during the day it's different, for example three such
cycles this morning but none from noon until now (eight hours).

Dump the event log. You have to google to find out how to do it.


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[Joerg]

Tom Del Rosso wrote:

Joerg wrote:
The strange thing is that it's random. It hasn't done this the first
five years. Then during the day it's different, for example three such
cycles this morning but none from noon until now (eight hours).

Dump the event log. You have to google to find out how to do it.

Well, the thing has croaked. After a power cycle it won't do a thing, no
buttons work and other than the backlight nothing is visible on the LCD.
So I ordered a new printer.

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