Beaujolais Nouveau Arrives in the U.S.

[Blair P. Houghton]

Rich Grise <rich@example.net> wrote:

What I wish could happen is that people would figure out that da gubmint
should stop spending money when they run out, like the taxpayers have to
do.

You can pay your taxes with your credit card. Transparently if
your credit card issuer keeps sending you those ridiculous paper
checks.

Yeah, I know it's a pipe dream - Uncle Sugardaddy has an infinite credit
line.

No we don't.

Governments do go bankrupt.

And it is not as pretty as when a low-end retailer goes
bankrupt then a few years later buys one of its largest
competitors.

--Blair
"You will soon actually be owned
by a Saudi prince."

 

[John Larkin]

On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 05:45:52 GMT, Blair P. Houghton <b@p.h> wrote:

Rich Grise <rich@example.net> wrote:

What I wish could happen is that people would figure out that da gubmint
should stop spending money when they run out, like the taxpayers have to
do.

You can pay your taxes with your credit card. Transparently if
your credit card issuer keeps sending you those ridiculous paper
checks.

Yeah, I know it's a pipe dream - Uncle Sugardaddy has an infinite credit
line.

No we don't.

Governments do go bankrupt.

But they can print all the money they need.

John

 

[Blair P. Houghton]

Chuck Harris <cf-NO-SPAM-harris@erols.com> wrote:

Blair P. Houghton wrote:
Chuck Harris <cf-NO-SPAM-harris@erols.com> wrote:

Blair P. Houghton wrote:

And yes, Bush is responsible for the continuing decline in
the value of the dollar, as it is falling along with the
world's confidence that America will remain solvent, which
is compounded by the rate at which Bush is running up our
debt with no means of repaying it.

The Senate and House of Representatives write the bills, the
President either signs them into law, or doesn't, his choice.

Our budget, as always, was created and passed by congress.


You know less about it than you pretend.

The President proposes the budget. The congress then
either follows his proposal or amends it, with concomitant
political fallout.

Once the budget leaves the executive branch, congress does
whatever it wants to with it, from rejecting it, to completely
rewriting it. But then, you know that.

Bush's proposals are deficit-limit busters, and the congress
just fiddles around the edges.

And he has no intention of ever vetoing one.

--Blair
"The next one will probably abrogate
the Constitution."

 

[Robert Monsen]

John Larkin wrote:

On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 05:45:32 GMT, Blair P. Houghton <b@p.h> wrote:


John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandSNIPtechTHISnologyPLEASE.com> wrote:

An high Euro will flood Europe with imports, kill exports, and destroy
domestic industry. That's a force toward equilibrium.

"Flood" and "kill" are extreme words for what will happen.


Agreed. Usually some less drastic equilibrium happens first.


Meanwhile, Europeans are now 30% wealthier than they were
a short time ago, without having to earn it.


Only if they're buying imports.


Meanwhile, Americans are 30% poorer than they were a short
time ago, also without having earned it.


Not this American. Not unless you define poorer as "30% poorer than if
you had speculated by investing all your assets in Euros at exactly
the right time." My purchasing power is undiminished, so far.

I wonder what the Europeans will do about cars? Will they jack up the
price for BMWs and Mercedes and Porsches to match the currency rate
changes? Or just eat the difference? VW's aren't such a problem, as
they're mostly made in Mexico.

According to Krugman, the traditional approach is to price your exports
based on the value of currency you are getting paid in.

That means that given the current plunge of the dollar, the price of
BMWs should stay nearly the same in the US, but the Germans should make
far less money by selling them. I guess that also means that the lower
dollar is killing Europe, Canada, Mexico, India, anybody who sees the US
as a major market... China must have forseen this, and kept their yuan
linked to the dollar, despite pressure to the contrary. Smart.

What does Bush care? He apparently is still angry at them for not
supporting his vanity war in Iraq. His current jokes at the expense of
cattle farmers in Canada (who have been losing their shirts due to the
ban) is a fairly good indication of how much contempt he feels for the
rest of the world.

So before you see any reduction in European exports, you're
seeing a huge rise in European exports.


People buy more of something because it's more expensive? Like in the
potato famine, maybe?

John

--
Regards,
Robert Monsen

"Your Highness, I have no need of this hypothesis."
- Pierre Laplace (1749-1827), to Napoleon,
on why his works on celestial mechanics make no mention of God.

 

[Blair P. Houghton]

Jim Thompson <thegreatone@example.com> wrote:

On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 01:06:02 GMT, Blair P. Houghton <b@p.h> wrote:

[snip]

The EU is not socialist. It just believes that people
shouldn't be conned.

"The victim is always the last to know."

I'll buy you a one-way ticket if you agree to forego your US
citizenship, and never return, even for a visit ;-)

Too late. Bush is turning America into Bulgaria right now.

--Blair
"Don't forget your visa."

 

[Blair P. Houghton]

Spehro Pefhany <speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:

On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 11:01:28 -0800, the renowned John Larkin
jjlarkin@highSNIPlandTHIStechPLEASEnology.com> wrote:
On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 05:45:52 GMT, Blair P. Houghton <b@p.h> wrote:

Governments do go bankrupt.


But they can print all the money they need.

John

And this is what the result looks like:

http://quotes.ino.com/chart/?s=NYBOT_DXY0&v=dmax

Gets worse:

http://www.joelscoins.com/exhibger2.htm

--Blair
"Samsonite is gonna make a mint."

 

[Blair P. Houghton]

Robert Monsen <rcsurname@comcast.net> wrote:

According to Krugman, the traditional approach is to price your exports
based on the value of currency you are getting paid in.

Krugman is wrong.

Prices for foreign goods in America will go up.

Prices for foreign goods in other foreign nations will not.

America is losing its value.

--Blair
"Big picture."

 

[John Larkin]

On Sun, 05 Dec 2004 04:35:24 GMT, Blair P. Houghton <b@p.h> wrote:

Spehro Pefhany <speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:
On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 11:01:28 -0800, the renowned John Larkin
jjlarkin@highSNIPlandTHIStechPLEASEnology.com> wrote:
On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 05:45:52 GMT, Blair P. Houghton <b@p.h> wrote:

Governments do go bankrupt.


But they can print all the money they need.

John

And this is what the result looks like:

http://quotes.ino.com/chart/?s=NYBOT_DXY0&v=dmax

Gets worse:

http://www.joelscoins.com/exhibger2.htm

--Blair
"Samsonite is gonna make a mint."

Why is it that some people take such joy in the hope of misery?

John

 

[Bob Stephens]

On Tue, 7 Dec 2004 20:08:40 +0100, Dr.No wrote:

You stupid and ignorant American idiot !!!

Most of the things you eat and drink, came from Europe!!!

You would not have a single grapevine if it they were not brought by honest
people from all over Europe who believed that they are going to the better
world, but they ended in worse police regime ever.....

Well the airplanes fly both ways mon ami...

Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.


Bob

"Jim Thompson" <thegreatone@example.com> wrote in message
news:4g9qp0lul0q36g4erdspp4mek7jo641vmh@4ax.com...
On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 22:38:55 GMT, Bob Stephens
stephensyomamadigital@earthlink.net> wrote:

On Thu, 18 Nov 2004 23:00:10 +0100, Simon Cussonnet wrote:

yeah Beaujolais nouveau isn't for red necks.
Best to keep fur us French




"Jim Thompson" <thegreatone@example.com> a écrit dans le message news:
gaupp0pdt5s4h7i4ild3ig711r48526kdf@4ax.com...
Don't waste your money supporting the French enemy. Buy American or
Aussie !-)

...Jim Thompson

I say we reposses our California grapevines. They probably never payed
for
them anyway...


Bob

Good point. Most people don't know that French vineyards were
destroyed by rot and vine cuttings from California were sent to France
to re-plant them.

But you know how it is... we bad Americans never bail out the
Europeans ;-)

...Jim Thompson
--
| James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens |
| Analog Innovations, Inc. | et |
| Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus |
| Phoenix, Arizona Voice480)460-2350 | |
| E-mail Address at Website Fax480)460-2142 | Brass Rat |
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I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food.

 

[John Larkin]

On Tue, 7 Dec 2004 20:08:40 +0100, "Dr.No" <Dr.No@007.com> wrote:

You stupid and ignorant American idiot !!!

Most of the things you eat and drink, came from Europe!!!

Corn, potatoes, chocolate, coffee, rice, noodles, ... classic European
inventions? OK, you get credit for white bread and horsemeat.

You would not have a single grapevine if it they were not brought by honest
people from all over Europe

Grapes were native to North America in pre-Columbian times. The
Concord grape rootstocks saved the European vineyards from the
Phylloxera critter.

who believed that they are going to the better
world,

And they're free to leave any time.

but they ended in worse police regime ever.....

Right, the US invented the Inquisition, the Nazi death camps, the
pogroms, and top posting.

John

 

[John Larkin]

On Tue, 7 Dec 2004 23:32:11 +0100, "Frank Bemelman"
<f.bemelmanq@xs4all.invalid.nl> wrote:

'Dr. No' should have stopped after stating the obvious 'You stupid and
ignorant American idiot !!!' in his reply to JT, but I guess he got
carried away a bit. Since he closed with '... worse police regime ever'
he has regained his balance and all is well.

Yes, I can hear those soldiers goose-stepping in the street below. No,
wait, those are actual geese!

John

 

[John Larkin]

On Wed, 08 Dec 2004 12:20:30 -0500, Spehro Pefhany
<speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:

On Wed, 08 Dec 2004 08:40:03 -0800, the renowned John Larkin
jjlarkin@highlandSNIPtechTHISnologyPLEASE.com> wrote:

I wonder why all the best chocolate bars come from Switzerland and the
Netherlands, and none from Central America?

John

Why do the best TV sets come from Japan?

Did you ever *watch* Japanese television? I wonder why they bother.

John

 

[Pig Bladder]

On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 20:08:40 +0100, Dr.No wrote:

You stupid and ignorant American idiot !!!

It is impossible to be "stupid" and "ignorant" simultaneously.

Take your pick!
--
The Pig Bladder From Uranus, still waiting for
some hot babe to ask what my favorite planet is.

 

[John Larkin]

On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 17:45:59 +0000, John Woodgate
<jmw@jmwa.demon.contraspam.yuk> wrote:

I read in sci.electronics.design that John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandSNIP
techTHISnologyPLEASE.com> wrote (in <49tgr0ddbfuo7hbefc7l995u4toq3h98ro@
4ax.com&gt about 'Beaujolais Nouveau Arrives in the U.S.', on Thu, 9 Dec
2004:
So what are the coordinates for a rich, British, Oxford-educated twit?

Go and look at the GPS display in Daddy's Bentley.

Last time I was in England, I was being driven around by a Captain Of
Industry in his fancy Carerra with GPS, LCD map, and a very sweet
female, English-accented robotic voice that told him where to go and
when to turn and stuff. After a couple of minutes of programming, off
we'd go. But you people have "roundabouts" everywhere, and she'd say,
in her elegant measured voice, "take the next left" and it would be
too late, so around and around we'd go...

Sort of fun, actually, if you're not driving.

John

 

[John Woodgate]

I read in sci.electronics.design that John Larkin <jjlarkin@highlandSNIP
techTHISnologyPLEASE.com> wrote (in <ofhjr09nfqbbason3jqck3rsiiv3mlnkqr@
4ax.com&gt about 'Beaujolais Nouveau Arrives in the U.S.', on Fri, 10 Dec
2004:

I was just reading about the increasing "natalist" movement in America.
It's not organized but it's increasingly important. It's about people
who live in quiet, "boring" places and take available jobs and don't
care much about money or stuff. What's important to them is kids and
family.

The SF writers have been there over the years, usually depicting that
sort of life-style as ideal (e.g. Shangri-La). The only bit I would
disagree with is 'available jobs'. You need a job that gives you the
highest sense of fulfilment that you can get, and I don't believe you
can be happy, long-term, without that. Even whether that job is EE or
road-sweeper.
--
Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.
The good news is that nothing is compulsory.
The bad news is that everything is prohibited.
http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk

 

[John Larkin]

On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 22:35:09 +0000, John Woodgate
<jmw@jmwa.demon.contraspam.yuk> wrote:

And consultants are allowed to work 170 hours a week, of course.

Or at least bill for 170 hours a week.

John

 

[John Larkin]

On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 12:41:56 -0700, Jim Thompson
<thegreatone@example.com> wrote:

"Itanium", I'll have to remember that, or was it Unobtainium" ?

Itanic.

John

 

[Rich The Philosophizer]

On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 03:43:34 +0000, R. Steve Walz wrote:

They'll help us figure out what we're doing wrong before
we screw up another planet.

If you want to know what you're doing wrong before you screw up another
planet, you could ask inside:
http://www.godchannel.com

Good Luck!
Rich

 

[John Woodgate]

I read in sci.electronics.design that Spehro Pefhany <speffSNIP@interlog
DOTyou.knowwhat> wrote (in <2vufr09r4sr7s3lnla41risp9unr6oean6@4ax.com&gt
about 'Beaujolais Nouveau Arrives in the U.S.', on Thu, 9 Dec 2004:

Nonsense. They are orthogonal. All four combinations are possible.

11 smart + knowledgable
01 stupid + knowledgable
10 smart + ignorant
00 stupid + ignorant

But it's a 4-dimensional matrix. You have to add in the 'American' and
'idiot' dimensions. You might consider that someone rather well-known is
widely described as '0000'.(;-)
--
Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.
The good news is that nothing is compulsory.
The bad news is that everything is prohibited.
http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk

 

[Blair P. Houghton]

John Larkin <jjlarkin@highSNIPlandTHIStechPLEASEnology.com> wrote:

Good grief, you blame the government for everything. Which can only
mean you want the government to be responsible for everything. Which
can only mean you want the government to control everything.

You have a tiny and poorly working mind.

So, people would have cheeseburger ration booklets? Mandatory blood
pressure monitors at supermarket checkouts: 120/80 or no potato chips
for you!

I need some chocolate.

You need some ritalin.

--Blair
"About a double handful."