Are there simple line-powered MP3 recorders?

[Joerg]

Rich Grise wrote:

On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 11:05:45 -0700, Joerg wrote:
Jan Panteltje wrote:

Else the metal DIN 3 or 5 pole are very reliable.

Sure. But totally unknown in America.

Huh?
http://www.alliedelec.com/Audio-Video-Connectors/DIN-Audio-Connectors-/?N=4294965081

Well yeah, boutique stuff at boutique prices.

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[Michael A. Terrell]

Joerg wrote:

Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Tue, 28 Oct 2008 10:06:35 -0700) it happened Joerg
notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote in
PEHNk.6426$Ws1.2118@nlpi064.nbdc.sbc.com>:

Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Tue, 28 Oct 2008 09:15:02 -0700) it happened Joerg
notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote in
uUGNk.6418$Ws1.3085@nlpi064.nbdc.sbc.com>:

Probably one of those dreaded plastic-jacketed 3.5mm stereo jacks that
are known for intermittent connections :-(

A lot of times I had to use a rubber band to pull the plug to the side
so the audio wouldn't crackle.
That only makes it worse, as it bends the contacts away.

It's the usual. The ugliest kludges have a habit of working fine for
decades. Once it works, don't touch it ;-)


Better solder on some wire and use a decent external connector,
if you cannot replace the bad one.
And use gold plated contacts.

Only if it is a real connector, not a 3.5mm stereo jack. The minimum
would be a 1/4" (6.3mm) jack, anything smaller would need the right
incantations to work reliably.

I have some all metal external (cable) female 3.5 mm connectors that have worked
OK for years.

http://www.switchcraft.com/products/jack-search.html half way down.

I do, too. But the plastic stuff that you find embedded in many of those
audio gizmos is usually the same low grade as on PC sound cards.

Else the metal DIN 3 or 5 pole are very reliable.


Sure. But totally unknown in America. So, before moving to the US I
bought a bunch of them in Europe because our old Saba stereo has those.
Also the Philips Gamma tube set (remember those?).

I used to buy loys of metal cased DIN connectors made by Switchcraft.

http://www.switchcraft.com/products/connector-search.html near the
bottom of the page.


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[Spehro Pefhany]

On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 11:09:02 -0700, the renowned Joerg
<notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote:

Spehro Pefhany wrote:
On Sun, 26 Oct 2008 14:31:21 -0700, Joerg
notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote:

For our church we are looking for mains-powered (no batteries) MP3
recorders that can record up to 1.5hrs, preferably onto a USB stick. As
simple as possible, like on/off, record, stop.

I have looked around the web and only found gear from Roland which had
mixing functions and stuff that makes it too complicated, or Intempo
which is more geared towards recording from radio channels and would
probably need some hack to connect to our mixer. If this costs a few
hundred Dollars that's ok but it cannot be complicated with teeny LCD
screens and menus. In essence I'd have to be able to call someone and
say "Turns this dark gray gizmo in the left corner on and hit the red
record button", not explain a lengthy menu tree where they need a
magnifier just to see it.

IOW what we need is a cassette recorder sans cassettes, that records
onto USB. Any ideas?

This one looks a bit dubious but it appears to be aimed at your sort
of application (uses SD cards).

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/492073-REG/Rolls_HR73_HR73_Rack_Mount.html


Aha! Thanks. Rackmount is even better. I just wonder what they mean by
power supply, a wall wart or something a notch better. I'll show this to
the guys at church, if they want it I'll find out whether this recorder
can ignore the internal flash and go straight to removeable memory, and
what kind the supply is.

On closer look, it doesn't look so good. Miserable non-obvious
limitations.

1) Power supply is an external 12V wall wart

2) External SD card is 512M max. You probably won't be able
to buy them that small for much longer.

3) Recording directly to SD is limited to non-MP3 format.

http://www.rolls.com/pdf/M_HR73.pdf

Badly in need of an update to SDHC and/or USB host.


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[Joerg]

Spehro Pefhany wrote:

On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 11:09:02 -0700, the renowned Joerg
notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote:

Spehro Pefhany wrote:
On Sun, 26 Oct 2008 14:31:21 -0700, Joerg
notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote:

For our church we are looking for mains-powered (no batteries) MP3
recorders that can record up to 1.5hrs, preferably onto a USB stick. As
simple as possible, like on/off, record, stop.

I have looked around the web and only found gear from Roland which had
mixing functions and stuff that makes it too complicated, or Intempo
which is more geared towards recording from radio channels and would
probably need some hack to connect to our mixer. If this costs a few
hundred Dollars that's ok but it cannot be complicated with teeny LCD
screens and menus. In essence I'd have to be able to call someone and
say "Turns this dark gray gizmo in the left corner on and hit the red
record button", not explain a lengthy menu tree where they need a
magnifier just to see it.

IOW what we need is a cassette recorder sans cassettes, that records
onto USB. Any ideas?
This one looks a bit dubious but it appears to be aimed at your sort
of application (uses SD cards).

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/492073-REG/Rolls_HR73_HR73_Rack_Mount.html

Aha! Thanks. Rackmount is even better. I just wonder what they mean by
power supply, a wall wart or something a notch better. I'll show this to
the guys at church, if they want it I'll find out whether this recorder
can ignore the internal flash and go straight to removeable memory, and
what kind the supply is.

On closer look, it doesn't look so good. Miserable non-obvious
limitations.

1) Power supply is an external 12V wall wart

2) External SD card is 512M max. You probably won't be able
to buy them that small for much longer.

3) Recording directly to SD is limited to non-MP3 format.

http://www.rolls.com/pdf/M_HR73.pdf

Badly in need of an update to SDHC and/or USB host.

Ouch. Triple ouch. I'll have to tell the guys at church. When I
mentioned it to our member who is the IT guru he really liked it.

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[Michael A. Terrell]

Joerg wrote:

Rich Grise wrote:
On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 11:05:45 -0700, Joerg wrote:
Jan Panteltje wrote:

Else the metal DIN 3 or 5 pole are very reliable.

Sure. But totally unknown in America.

Huh?
http://www.alliedelec.com/Audio-Video-Connectors/DIN-Audio-Connectors-/?N=4294965081


Well yeah, boutique stuff at boutique prices.

Boutique? I have used them since 1970, and have never had a bad
connector from them. If you want quality, you pay for it. once.
Switchcraft makes mil spec, commercial and broadcast quality parts, not
consumer junk. I have had idiots drive over some of their XLR style
connectors, and some all metal 1/4" Phone plus & jacks that were laying
on concrete, without damaging them.


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[Joerg]

Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Joerg wrote:
Rich Grise wrote:
On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 11:05:45 -0700, Joerg wrote:
Jan Panteltje wrote:

Else the metal DIN 3 or 5 pole are very reliable.

Sure. But totally unknown in America.
Huh?
http://www.alliedelec.com/Audio-Video-Connectors/DIN-Audio-Connectors-/?N=4294965081

Well yeah, boutique stuff at boutique prices.


Boutique? I have used them since 1970, and have never had a bad
connector from them. If you want quality, you pay for it. once.
Switchcraft makes mil spec, commercial and broadcast quality parts, not
consumer junk. I have had idiots drive over some of their XLR style
connectors, and some all metal 1/4" Phone plus & jacks that were laying
on concrete, without damaging them.

Sure. XLR is great, much better contacts than DIN usually. DIN never
made it over here and even for a cheap plastic version they often want

$3 a pop. I haven't seen them used anywhere other than on import
devices. I think they are even going lalaland in Europe now, haven't

seen a stereo from there with DIN in a long time and that's where they
were built in all the time (the 3- and 5-pin versions).

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[Michael A. Terrell]

Joerg wrote:

Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Joerg wrote:
Rich Grise wrote:
On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 11:05:45 -0700, Joerg wrote:
Jan Panteltje wrote:

Else the metal DIN 3 or 5 pole are very reliable.

Sure. But totally unknown in America.
Huh?
http://www.alliedelec.com/Audio-Video-Connectors/DIN-Audio-Connectors-/?N=4294965081

Well yeah, boutique stuff at boutique prices.


Boutique? I have used them since 1970, and have never had a bad
connector from them. If you want quality, you pay for it. once.
Switchcraft makes mil spec, commercial and broadcast quality parts, not
consumer junk. I have had idiots drive over some of their XLR style
connectors, and some all metal 1/4" Phone plus & jacks that were laying
on concrete, without damaging them.


Sure. XLR is great, much better contacts than DIN usually. DIN never
made it over here and even for a cheap plastic version they often want
$3 a pop. I haven't seen them used anywhere other than on import
devices. I think they are even going lalaland in Europe now, haven't
seen a stereo from there with DIN in a long time and that's where they
were built in all the time (the 3- and 5-pin versions).

I was using them in 1970. A lot of imported stereo junk had 5 pin DIn
connectors. Radio shack, and about every wholesaler carried them, along
with other types. I still have a bunch of NOS Switchcraft metal 8 pin
DIN plugs that fit the seven pin power connector on the Commodore 64,
after you cut off the center pin.

I never really liked the DIN connectors. Most of what was available
was early Japanese crap with bad plating that would peel off the pins
after you soldered the wire to them. The plastic had a low melting
point, so there were a lot of damaged plugs. I think they shipped the
rejects to the US and used what passed inspection in their products.



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On Oct 26, 2:31 pm, Joerg <notthisjoerg...@removethispacbell.net>
wrote:

For our church we are looking for mains-powered (no batteries) MP3
recorders that can record up to 1.5hrs, preferably onto a USB stick. As
simple as possible, like on/off, record, stop.

I have looked around the web and only found gear from Roland which had
mixing functions and stuff that makes it too complicated, or Intempo
which is more geared towards recording from radio channels and would
probably need some hack to connect to our mixer. If this costs a few
hundred Dollars that's ok but it cannot be complicated with teeny LCD
screens and menus. In essence I'd have to be able to call someone and
say "Turns this dark gray gizmo in the left corner on and hit the red
record button", not explain a lengthy menu tree where they need a
magnifier just to see it.

IOW what we need is a cassette recorder sans cassettes, that records
onto USB. Any ideas?

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

"gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam.
Use another domain or send PM.

I have a Zoom H2. Walwart powered, though it last a long time on just
batteries.

Here is the quick dope on the product. It has a line input, mic input,
and built in microphones. The mic input is a mini and very noisy. The
line input is excellent, but there is a caveat in that the line input
goes directly into the ADC. The digital leve control is just a post
recording scaler. The analog playback is noisy.

So here is what actually works well. Four channel recording with built
in microphones, two channel recording with built in microphones, and
line recording. It records to SDHC cards in PCM or MP3.

The unit is relatively cheap if you look around. About $150.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAOJQ_78Y7I

And for your entertainment, I did this recording:
www.lazygranch.com/sound/moo.ogg

 

[Joerg]

miso@sushi.com wrote:

On Oct 26, 2:31 pm, Joerg <notthisjoerg...@removethispacbell.net
wrote:
For our church we are looking for mains-powered (no batteries) MP3
recorders that can record up to 1.5hrs, preferably onto a USB stick. As
simple as possible, like on/off, record, stop.

I have looked around the web and only found gear from Roland which had
mixing functions and stuff that makes it too complicated, or Intempo
which is more geared towards recording from radio channels and would
probably need some hack to connect to our mixer. If this costs a few
hundred Dollars that's ok but it cannot be complicated with teeny LCD
screens and menus. In essence I'd have to be able to call someone and
say "Turns this dark gray gizmo in the left corner on and hit the red
record button", not explain a lengthy menu tree where they need a
magnifier just to see it.

IOW what we need is a cassette recorder sans cassettes, that records
onto USB. Any ideas?

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

"gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam.
Use another domain or send PM.

I have a Zoom H2. Walwart powered, though it last a long time on just
batteries.

Here is the quick dope on the product. It has a line input, mic input,
and built in microphones. The mic input is a mini and very noisy. The
line input is excellent, but there is a caveat in that the line input
goes directly into the ADC. The digital leve control is just a post
recording scaler. The analog playback is noisy.

So here is what actually works well. Four channel recording with built
in microphones, two channel recording with built in microphones, and
line recording. It records to SDHC cards in PCM or MP3.

The unit is relatively cheap if you look around. About $150.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAOJQ_78Y7I

And for your entertainment, I did this recording:
www.lazygranch.com/sound/moo.ogg

Thanks, and also thanks to all the other posters. After a hint from a
German audio engineer we have decided to purchase a Marantz PMD-580, a
bit steep at just under $1000 but it is a great allrounder. Besides
fulfilling all our requirements it has a major plus and that is being
able to schedule recordings via a LAN connection and also downloading
its recordings from remote. That's huge. This is the machine:

http://www.d-mpro.com/users/folder.asp?FolderID=4347&Tab=Data+Sheet

Otehr than that, XLR input, very large dynamic range, the works.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

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[Charlie E.]

On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 09:25:28 -0700, Joerg
<notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote:

miso@sushi.com wrote:
On Oct 26, 2:31 pm, Joerg <notthisjoerg...@removethispacbell.net
wrote:
For our church we are looking for mains-powered (no batteries) MP3
recorders that can record up to 1.5hrs, preferably onto a USB stick. As
simple as possible, like on/off, record, stop.

I have looked around the web and only found gear from Roland which had
mixing functions and stuff that makes it too complicated, or Intempo
which is more geared towards recording from radio channels and would
probably need some hack to connect to our mixer. If this costs a few
hundred Dollars that's ok but it cannot be complicated with teeny LCD
screens and menus. In essence I'd have to be able to call someone and
say "Turns this dark gray gizmo in the left corner on and hit the red
record button", not explain a lengthy menu tree where they need a
magnifier just to see it.

IOW what we need is a cassette recorder sans cassettes, that records
onto USB. Any ideas?

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

"gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam.
Use another domain or send PM.

I have a Zoom H2. Walwart powered, though it last a long time on just
batteries.

Here is the quick dope on the product. It has a line input, mic input,
and built in microphones. The mic input is a mini and very noisy. The
line input is excellent, but there is a caveat in that the line input
goes directly into the ADC. The digital leve control is just a post
recording scaler. The analog playback is noisy.

So here is what actually works well. Four channel recording with built
in microphones, two channel recording with built in microphones, and
line recording. It records to SDHC cards in PCM or MP3.

The unit is relatively cheap if you look around. About $150.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAOJQ_78Y7I

And for your entertainment, I did this recording:
www.lazygranch.com/sound/moo.ogg


Thanks, and also thanks to all the other posters. After a hint from a
German audio engineer we have decided to purchase a Marantz PMD-580, a
bit steep at just under $1000 but it is a great allrounder. Besides
fulfilling all our requirements it has a major plus and that is being
able to schedule recordings via a LAN connection and also downloading
its recordings from remote. That's huge. This is the machine:

http://www.d-mpro.com/users/folder.asp?FolderID=4347&Tab=Data+Sheet

Otehr than that, XLR input, very large dynamic range, the works.

Looks like a good unit! good thing I didn't see it two months ago, or
I would have used it instead of the SSCDR-1. Of course, then I would
have needed to run an ethernet cable out to the dias where the clerks
station is, and my conduit is already overfilled...

Charlie

 

[Jim Thompson]

On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 20:47:06 GMT, Charlie E. <edmondson@ieee.org>
wrote:

On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 09:25:28 -0700, Joerg
notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote:

[snip]

http://www.d-mpro.com/users/folder.asp?FolderID=4347&Tab=Data+Sheet

Otehr than that, XLR input, very large dynamic range, the works.

Looks like a good unit! good thing I didn't see it two months ago, or
I would have used it instead of the SSCDR-1. Of course, then I would
have needed to run an ethernet cable out to the dias where the clerks
station is, and my conduit is already overfilled...

Charlie

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[Charlie E.]

On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:09:20 -0700, Jim Thompson
<To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 20:47:06 GMT, Charlie E. <edmondson@ieee.org
wrote:

On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 09:25:28 -0700, Joerg
notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote:

[snip]

http://www.d-mpro.com/users/folder.asp?FolderID=4347&Tab=Data+Sheet

Otehr than that, XLR input, very large dynamic range, the works.

Looks like a good unit! good thing I didn't see it two months ago, or
I would have used it instead of the SSCDR-1. Of course, then I would
have needed to run an ethernet cable out to the dias where the clerks
station is, and my conduit is already overfilled...

Charlie

"dias" ?

Vaya Con Dias -Chuck Berry

...Jim Thompson
So I am a dyslexic typer/speller...

Charlie

 

On Oct 29, 9:25 am, Joerg <notthisjoerg...@removethispacbell.net>
wrote:

m...@sushi.com wrote:
On Oct 26, 2:31 pm, Joerg <notthisjoerg...@removethispacbell.net
wrote:
For our church we are looking for mains-powered (no batteries) MP3
recorders that can record up to 1.5hrs, preferably onto a USB stick. As
simple as possible, like on/off, record, stop.

I have looked around the web and only found gear from Roland which had
mixing functions and stuff that makes it too complicated, or Intempo
which is more geared towards recording from radio channels and would
probably need some hack to connect to our mixer. If this costs a few
hundred Dollars that's ok but it cannot be complicated with teeny LCD
screens and menus. In essence I'd have to be able to call someone and
say "Turns this dark gray gizmo in the left corner on and hit the red
record button", not explain a lengthy menu tree where they need a
magnifier just to see it.

IOW what we need is a cassette recorder sans cassettes, that records
onto USB. Any ideas?

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

"gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam.
Use another domain or send PM.

I have a Zoom H2. Walwart powered, though it last a long time on just
batteries.

Here is the quick dope on the product. It has a line input, mic input,
and built in microphones. The mic input is a mini and very noisy. The
line input is excellent, but there is a caveat in that the line input
goes directly into the ADC. The digital leve control is just a post
recording scaler. The analog playback is noisy.

So here is what actually works well. Four channel recording with built
in microphones, two channel recording with built in microphones, and
line recording. It records to SDHC cards in PCM or MP3.

The unit is relatively cheap if you look around. About $150.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAOJQ_78Y7I

And for your entertainment, I did this recording:
www.lazygranch.com/sound/moo.ogg

Thanks, and also thanks to all the other posters. After a hint from a
German audio engineer we have decided to purchase a Marantz PMD-580, a
bit steep at just under $1000 but it is a great allrounder. Besides
fulfilling all our requirements it has a major plus and that is being
able to schedule recordings via a LAN connection and also downloading
its recordings from remote. That's huge. This is the machine:

http://www.d-mpro.com/users/folder.asp?FolderID=4347&Tab=Data+Sheet

Otehr than that, XLR input, very large dynamic range, the works.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

"gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam.
Use another domain or send PM.

I've used the PMD660. Very nice. I'm sure the line powered unit will
be super. However, it would make recording cattle quite difficult. ;-)

For some reason, I thought you wanted the controls at hand, i.e. you
wanted a cassette replacement.

Seems to me you need to split the microphone signal, or maybe tap the
signal from the recorder in order to get it into the PA.

 

[Joerg]

miso@sushi.com wrote:

On Oct 29, 9:25 am, Joerg <notthisjoerg...@removethispacbell.net
wrote:
m...@sushi.com wrote:
On Oct 26, 2:31 pm, Joerg <notthisjoerg...@removethispacbell.net
wrote:
For our church we are looking for mains-powered (no batteries) MP3
recorders that can record up to 1.5hrs, preferably onto a USB stick. As
simple as possible, like on/off, record, stop.
I have looked around the web and only found gear from Roland which had
mixing functions and stuff that makes it too complicated, or Intempo
which is more geared towards recording from radio channels and would
probably need some hack to connect to our mixer. If this costs a few
hundred Dollars that's ok but it cannot be complicated with teeny LCD
screens and menus. In essence I'd have to be able to call someone and
say "Turns this dark gray gizmo in the left corner on and hit the red
record button", not explain a lengthy menu tree where they need a
magnifier just to see it.
IOW what we need is a cassette recorder sans cassettes, that records
onto USB. Any ideas?
--
Regards, Joerg
http://www.analogconsultants.com/
"gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam.
Use another domain or send PM.
I have a Zoom H2. Walwart powered, though it last a long time on just
batteries.
Here is the quick dope on the product. It has a line input, mic input,
and built in microphones. The mic input is a mini and very noisy. The
line input is excellent, but there is a caveat in that the line input
goes directly into the ADC. The digital leve control is just a post
recording scaler. The analog playback is noisy.
So here is what actually works well. Four channel recording with built
in microphones, two channel recording with built in microphones, and
line recording. It records to SDHC cards in PCM or MP3.
The unit is relatively cheap if you look around. About $150.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAOJQ_78Y7I
And for your entertainment, I did this recording:
www.lazygranch.com/sound/moo.ogg
Thanks, and also thanks to all the other posters. After a hint from a
German audio engineer we have decided to purchase a Marantz PMD-580, a
bit steep at just under $1000 but it is a great allrounder. Besides
fulfilling all our requirements it has a major plus and that is being
able to schedule recordings via a LAN connection and also downloading
its recordings from remote. That's huge. This is the machine:

http://www.d-mpro.com/users/folder.asp?FolderID=4347&Tab=Data+Sheet

Otehr than that, XLR input, very large dynamic range, the works.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

"gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam.
Use another domain or send PM.

I've used the PMD660. Very nice. I'm sure the line powered unit will
be super. However, it would make recording cattle quite difficult. ;-)

For some reason, I thought you wanted the controls at hand, i.e. you
wanted a cassette replacement.

You can do that with these units. The front panel is simple, has a REC
button. It looks like it just needs to be programmed correctly, once.

Seems to me you need to split the microphone signal, or maybe tap the
signal from the recorder in order to get it into the PA.

It's a mixer line-out that goes to the cassette recorder,
hearing-impaired transmitter and cry-room amp. Want to keep the
cassettes for various reasons, as backup until MP3 proves reliable and
also for people to take to shut-ins. So it'll be just one more tap ... ;-)

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[JosephKK]

On Mon, 27 Oct 2008 09:26:29 -0700, Joerg
<notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote:

Charlie E. wrote:
On Sun, 26 Oct 2008 14:31:21 -0700, Joerg
notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote:

For our church we are looking for mains-powered (no batteries) MP3
recorders that can record up to 1.5hrs, preferably onto a USB stick. As
simple as possible, like on/off, record, stop.

I have looked around the web and only found gear from Roland which had
mixing functions and stuff that makes it too complicated, or Intempo
which is more geared towards recording from radio channels and would
probably need some hack to connect to our mixer. If this costs a few
hundred Dollars that's ok but it cannot be complicated with teeny LCD
screens and menus. In essence I'd have to be able to call someone and
say "Turns this dark gray gizmo in the left corner on and hit the red
record button", not explain a lengthy menu tree where they need a
magnifier just to see it.

IOW what we need is a cassette recorder sans cassettes, that records
onto USB. Any ideas?

Jeorge,
We used a pro gear Tascam recorder for our last project, but it used
compact flash, not USB flash, and is in the $900 range. I like your
idea, though, and would like to buy it as well. Maybe it is time to
design one!


Do you remember the Tascam model? Flash isn't ideal but a lot better
than CD or having to plug the whole device into a PC. That is because a
church member does the spooling onto the web from home and would then
have to drive back to church to return the unit.

This is becoming the obvious embedded RTLinux PC project. Select your
PC104 form factor stuff, stir in the right Linux stuff and boom, it
just works.

 

[Joerg]

JosephKK wrote:

On Mon, 27 Oct 2008 09:26:29 -0700, Joerg
notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote:

Charlie E. wrote:
On Sun, 26 Oct 2008 14:31:21 -0700, Joerg
notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote:

For our church we are looking for mains-powered (no batteries) MP3
recorders that can record up to 1.5hrs, preferably onto a USB stick. As
simple as possible, like on/off, record, stop.

I have looked around the web and only found gear from Roland which had
mixing functions and stuff that makes it too complicated, or Intempo
which is more geared towards recording from radio channels and would
probably need some hack to connect to our mixer. If this costs a few
hundred Dollars that's ok but it cannot be complicated with teeny LCD
screens and menus. In essence I'd have to be able to call someone and
say "Turns this dark gray gizmo in the left corner on and hit the red
record button", not explain a lengthy menu tree where they need a
magnifier just to see it.

IOW what we need is a cassette recorder sans cassettes, that records
onto USB. Any ideas?
Jeorge,
We used a pro gear Tascam recorder for our last project, but it used
compact flash, not USB flash, and is in the $900 range. I like your
idea, though, and would like to buy it as well. Maybe it is time to
design one!

Do you remember the Tascam model? Flash isn't ideal but a lot better
than CD or having to plug the whole device into a PC. That is because a
church member does the spooling onto the web from home and would then
have to drive back to church to return the unit.

This is becoming the obvious embedded RTLinux PC project. Select your
PC104 form factor stuff, stir in the right Linux stuff and boom, it
just works.

Well, we just ordered a top-of-the-line Marantz recorder. Even easier:
Plug it in, turn it on, press "REC" -> works.

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[Joel Koltner]

"Joerg" <notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote in message
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Well, we just ordered a top-of-the-line Marantz recorder. Even easier: Plug
it in, turn it on, press "REC" -> works.

When can we expect to hear the results of the new recorder on the web site?

 

[Jan Panteltje]

On a sunny day (Tue, 04 Nov 2008 10:52:56 -0800) it happened Joerg
<notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote in
<lS0Qk.3807$hc1.2980@flpi150.ffdc.sbc.com>:

This is becoming the obvious embedded RTLinux PC project. Select your
PC104 form factor stuff, stir in the right Linux stuff and boom, it
just works.


Well, we just ordered a top-of-the-line Marantz recorder. Even easier:
Plug it in, turn it on, press "REC" -> works.

Yes, but where is the challenge?

 

[Joerg]

Joel Koltner wrote:

"Joerg" <notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote in message
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Well, we just ordered a top-of-the-line Marantz recorder. Even easier: Plug
it in, turn it on, press "REC" -> works.

When can we expect to hear the results of the new recorder on the web site?

A few weeks maybe. Some wiring will have to be re-done and I as well as
our IT pro must to do that after work. Also, the old rack needs to be
re-built and so on. Not exactly a piece of cake.

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[Joerg]

Jan Panteltje wrote:

On a sunny day (Tue, 04 Nov 2008 10:52:56 -0800) it happened Joerg
notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote in
lS0Qk.3807$hc1.2980@flpi150.ffdc.sbc.com>:

This is becoming the obvious embedded RTLinux PC project. Select your
PC104 form factor stuff, stir in the right Linux stuff and boom, it
just works.

Well, we just ordered a top-of-the-line Marantz recorder. Even easier:
Plug it in, turn it on, press "REC" -> works.

Yes, but where is the challenge?

Right now I don't need any more challenges

Besides a few client projects I am trying to migrate to gEDA. Got it
running but the symbol editing turns out to be a real bear. Plus
learning all the Linux-speak.

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