Are there simple line-powered MP3 recorders?

[mpm]

On Oct 27, 11:26�am, Joerg <notthisjoerg...@removethispacbell.net>
wrote:

Charlie E. wrote:
On Sun, 26 Oct 2008 14:31:21 -0700, Joerg
notthisjoerg...@removethispacbell.net> wrote:

For our church we are looking for mains-powered (no batteries) MP3
recorders that can record up to 1.5hrs, preferably onto a USB stick. As
simple as possible, like on/off, record, stop.

I have looked around the web and only found gear from Roland which had
mixing functions and stuff that makes it too complicated, or Intempo
which is more geared towards recording from radio channels and would
probably need some hack to connect to our mixer. If this costs a few
hundred Dollars that's ok but it cannot be complicated with teeny LCD
screens and menus. In essence I'd have to be able to call someone and
say "Turns this dark gray gizmo in the left corner on and hit the red
record button", not explain a lengthy menu tree where they need a
magnifier just to see it.

IOW what we need is a cassette recorder sans cassettes, that records
onto USB. Any ideas?

Jeorge,
We used a pro gear Tascam recorder for our last project, but it used
compact flash, not USB flash, and is in the $900 range. �I like your
idea, though, and would like to buy it as well. �Maybe it is time to
design one!

Do you remember the Tascam model? Flash isn't ideal but a lot better
than CD or having to plug the whole device into a PC. That is because a
church member does the spooling onto the web from home and would then
have to drive back to church to return the unit.

--
Regards, Joerg

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What (interface) do you use to put your church service audio up on the
web?
Just MP3 files attached to a click button, or something more
elaborate?
I have a similar project in the works at our church...

Right now, we just have archived audio available for downloading, and
a live Internet streaming.

-mpm

 

[Jan Panteltje]

On a sunny day (Tue, 28 Oct 2008 12:42:02 +0000) it happened Adrian C
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Jan Panteltje wrote:

True, OTOH my 12V adapter from the Timex Sinclair ZX81 from the early 1980
has been on 24/7 with original parts and is still working fine.
That makes > 25 years.

So what are you doing with a _ZX81_ running on for 25 years?

No, that adaptor has been running many different things that needed 9 -to 12V DC
Now it runs my SWR meter...
It did run the home control system for years, an other smaller adapter does that now.

Also use it for experimenting any time I need a 12V or so.

Is it trapped in an application running a nuclear power plant by any chance?
http://ganjatron.net/retrocomputing/zx81/index.html

Yes, that site, I actually had 2 ZX81 and 1 ZX80.
Unlike the joke that guy made, I added 64k RAM, and a floppy controller,
then an EPPROM programmer, then a 80 x 25 display, and wrote a CP/M clone
on it, that actually did run a C compiler (Software toolworks C/80).
Then I added an IBM keyboard , and finally replaced the old ZX81 with a processor card.
You can find that OS, and a Z80 disassembler here:
http://panteltje.com/panteltje/z80/index.html
Gave aways the ZXs, many many years ago, the foil keyboards fell apart anyway.
But I always kept that one AC adapter.
Also used the ZX81 to control an audio processing rack....

ZX81 had a very good BASIC too, with nice syntax checking, would not let you
enter a wrong line.

 

[Phil Hobbs]

Charlie E. wrote:

On Mon, 27 Oct 2008 11:26:56 -0700, Joerg
notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote:

Phil Hobbs wrote:
Joerg wrote:
For our church we are looking for mains-powered (no batteries) MP3
recorders that can record up to 1.5hrs, preferably onto a USB stick.
As simple as possible, like on/off, record, stop.

I have looked around the web and only found gear from Roland which had
mixing functions and stuff that makes it too complicated, or Intempo
which is more geared towards recording from radio channels and would
probably need some hack to connect to our mixer. If this costs a few
hundred Dollars that's ok but it cannot be complicated with teeny LCD
screens and menus. In essence I'd have to be able to call someone and
say "Turns this dark gray gizmo in the left corner on and hit the red
record button", not explain a lengthy menu tree where they need a
magnifier just to see it.

IOW what we need is a cassette recorder sans cassettes, that records
onto USB. Any ideas?

Olympus LS10, under $300. Great sound, record/stop/playback buttons
that just work. It also has the screens and so on, but the pastor
doesn't have to futz with them at all--hit the red button and talk.

Thanks. Still needs a wall wart and SD cards (no USB sticks) but if it
has your endorsement maybe we can get a real power supply for it.

Question: It says "recording time can be extended with a SD card". It is
possible to record only onto the SD cards and not at all into the
device's memory? Someone needs to take it home and they should not have
to take the whole device because it may be needed again soon after.

Hmmm...

Ok, you can record either to the internal memory, or to an SD card.
However, I don't see an aux in jack on it to connect to a PA system,
just uses its own mikes. Probably not!

Charlie

No, it has both line and mic inputs as well as its internal mics.

Cheers,

Phil Hobbs

 

[Joerg]

mpm wrote:

On Oct 27, 11:26�am, Joerg <notthisjoerg...@removethispacbell.net
wrote:
Charlie E. wrote:
On Sun, 26 Oct 2008 14:31:21 -0700, Joerg
notthisjoerg...@removethispacbell.net> wrote:
For our church we are looking for mains-powered (no batteries) MP3
recorders that can record up to 1.5hrs, preferably onto a USB stick. As
simple as possible, like on/off, record, stop.
I have looked around the web and only found gear from Roland which had
mixing functions and stuff that makes it too complicated, or Intempo
which is more geared towards recording from radio channels and would
probably need some hack to connect to our mixer. If this costs a few
hundred Dollars that's ok but it cannot be complicated with teeny LCD
screens and menus. In essence I'd have to be able to call someone and
say "Turns this dark gray gizmo in the left corner on and hit the red
record button", not explain a lengthy menu tree where they need a
magnifier just to see it.
IOW what we need is a cassette recorder sans cassettes, that records
onto USB. Any ideas?
Jeorge,
We used a pro gear Tascam recorder for our last project, but it used
compact flash, not USB flash, and is in the $900 range. �I like your
idea, though, and would like to buy it as well. �Maybe it is time to
design one!
Do you remember the Tascam model? Flash isn't ideal but a lot better
than CD or having to plug the whole device into a PC. That is because a
church member does the spooling onto the web from home and would then
have to drive back to church to return the unit.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

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What (interface) do you use to put your church service audio up on the
web?

Currently I record on audio cassettes and then another member uses a PC
to create MP3 from that:

https://loth.ctsmemberconnect.net/sermon-ctrl.do

Unfortunately it's now through this 3rd party site and it doesn't work
on all PCs. The audio is also very distorted because of some wrong
setting. Recording directly to MP3 so I can check it right after the
service should fix that, plus save time when placing it on the web.

Just MP3 files attached to a click button, or something more
elaborate?

Yep. It used to work on every PC but not anymore :-(

I have a similar project in the works at our church...

Right now, we just have archived audio available for downloading, and
a live Internet streaming.

We want to try an old laptop this week. If you try that you'll
definitely need an audio balun, else the noise from its power brick is
going to be terrible. BTDT.

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[Joerg]

Charlie E. wrote:

On Mon, 27 Oct 2008 13:47:52 -0700, Joerg
notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote:

Phil Hobbs wrote:
Joerg wrote:
Phil Hobbs wrote:
Joerg wrote:
For our church we are looking for mains-powered (no batteries) MP3
recorders that can record up to 1.5hrs, preferably onto a USB stick.
As simple as possible, like on/off, record, stop.

I have looked around the web and only found gear from Roland which
had mixing functions and stuff that makes it too complicated, or
Intempo which is more geared towards recording from radio channels
and would probably need some hack to connect to our mixer. If this
costs a few hundred Dollars that's ok but it cannot be complicated
with teeny LCD screens and menus. In essence I'd have to be able to
call someone and say "Turns this dark gray gizmo in the left corner
on and hit the red record button", not explain a lengthy menu tree
where they need a magnifier just to see it.

IOW what we need is a cassette recorder sans cassettes, that records
onto USB. Any ideas?

Olympus LS10, under $300. Great sound, record/stop/playback buttons
that just work. It also has the screens and so on, but the pastor
doesn't have to futz with them at all--hit the red button and talk.

Thanks. Still needs a wall wart and SD cards (no USB sticks) but if it
has your endorsement maybe we can get a real power supply for it.

Question: It says "recording time can be extended with a SD card". It
is possible to record only onto the SD cards and not at all into the
device's memory? Someone needs to take it home and they should not
have to take the whole device because it may be needed again soon after.

Yes, you can tell it to record straight onto SD. It also takes SDHD, in
case your pastor is really on a roll some Sunday. It doesn't have
XLR inputs, but it does have two very decent condenser mics built in.
(How much stereo you're going to get from two mics 2 inches apart is
another matter--one for singing and one for the harmonica.

Cool, thanks. He tries to keep his sermons to roughly 1/2hr. But we may
need longer recording times for special events such as a memorial
service. Relatives are really glad if they have a recording that
includes all the speeches and eulogies. It's usually the last thing
they've got to hang onto regarding the spouse or family member that
passed away. Other than the Pontiac GTO and stuff ...


It's often used by musicians, who seem to love it. I got it for my
wife's birthday--it arrived about a week ago--and she seems to like it
too. (She's trying to get into doing voiceovers and uses it for
practice.) I haven't used it significantly myself, so you might adjust
your salt grain size on that basis.

If it survived that week it ought to be good.

duck and hide ...


One problem with small voice recorders and wall warts is that you can
get a surprising amount of hum--I haven't tested this one, but the
effect is quite strong with IPods and powered external speakers or even
headphones. (It goes away if you touch the metal case.)

I figured that. Nowadays I don't expect any audio designers to truly
understand diff-mode circuitry. Luckily Radio Shack has audio baluns,
hum eliminators, ground noise reducers or whatever is the current
marketing speak du jour for those. Now that's a 20 mile drive since our
local Radio Shack became <gasp> a cell phone shop.

When you need that hum eliminator, you probably won't find it at Radio
Shack. I needed one last week, and finally found one at Circuit City,
right after I ordered a couple on line at Amazon. BTW, when you need
one, look in the auto audio section...

Yep, that's one place where I got them when I urgently needed one at a
client: The local auto parts store.

Radio Shack used to have some but the in-store stuff is now often
reduced to plain old consumer gear. Sad.

--
Regards, Joerg

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[Joerg]

Phil Hobbs wrote:

Charlie E. wrote:
On Mon, 27 Oct 2008 11:26:56 -0700, Joerg
notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote:

Phil Hobbs wrote:
Joerg wrote:
For our church we are looking for mains-powered (no batteries) MP3
recorders that can record up to 1.5hrs, preferably onto a USB
stick. As simple as possible, like on/off, record, stop.

I have looked around the web and only found gear from Roland which
had mixing functions and stuff that makes it too complicated, or
Intempo which is more geared towards recording from radio channels
and would probably need some hack to connect to our mixer. If this
costs a few hundred Dollars that's ok but it cannot be complicated
with teeny LCD screens and menus. In essence I'd have to be able to
call someone and say "Turns this dark gray gizmo in the left corner
on and hit the red record button", not explain a lengthy menu tree
where they need a magnifier just to see it.

IOW what we need is a cassette recorder sans cassettes, that
records onto USB. Any ideas?

Olympus LS10, under $300. Great sound, record/stop/playback buttons
that just work. It also has the screens and so on, but the pastor
doesn't have to futz with them at all--hit the red button and talk.

Thanks. Still needs a wall wart and SD cards (no USB sticks) but if
it has your endorsement maybe we can get a real power supply for it.

Question: It says "recording time can be extended with a SD card". It
is possible to record only onto the SD cards and not at all into the
device's memory? Someone needs to take it home and they should not
have to take the whole device because it may be needed again soon after.

Hmmm...

Ok, you can record either to the internal memory, or to an SD card.
However, I don't see an aux in jack on it to connect to a PA system,
just uses its own mikes. Probably not!

Charlie

No, it has both line and mic inputs as well as its internal mics.

Probably one of those dreaded plastic-jacketed 3.5mm stereo jacks that
are known for intermittent connections :-(

A lot of times I had to use a rubber band to pull the plug to the side
so the audio wouldn't crackle.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

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[Joerg]

Charlie E. wrote:

On Mon, 27 Oct 2008 18:30:47 -0700, Joerg
notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote:

Not in this area. I'd prefer to keep the sound booth as simple as
possible. Example from yesterday: The vicar turns his mike from mute to
active. Begins to speak. *WOOOOOOOOOO*.....

Humongous feedback, me dashing into the booth, none of the mixer pots
seemed to work. Vicar hastily turns his mike off. Luckily he's pretty
cool about this stuff. Turns out someone had set one of the tiny
potmeters on the side to almost full blast and forgot to set it to zero
later. The one for tape playback, and I had just started the recording.



Yeah, I hate that! Had an argument with a guy at Tascam, because the
'tape monitor' feature is a real PITA! Sure, it is nice in some
configurations, but if you want to have a non-operator setup, and
still use the tape (or CDR) for playing as well as recording, then you
get feedback up the ying-yang! You have to set you record levels low,
and your playback levels low so that you get an overal loss of at
least 10dB in the loop. They really need to have a 'disable monitor'
option in there...

In the old days this was simple: Philips screw driver, lift off lid,
snip, done ;-)

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[Joel Koltner]

"Joerg" <notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote in message
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Yep, that's one place where I got them when I urgently needed one at a
client: The local auto parts store.

Wal*Mart has them as well (back with the car stereo stuff).

 

[Phil Hobbs]

Joerg wrote:

Phil Hobbs wrote:
Charlie E. wrote:
On Mon, 27 Oct 2008 11:26:56 -0700, Joerg
notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote:

Phil Hobbs wrote:
Joerg wrote:
For our church we are looking for mains-powered (no batteries) MP3
recorders that can record up to 1.5hrs, preferably onto a USB
stick. As simple as possible, like on/off, record, stop.

I have looked around the web and only found gear from Roland which
had mixing functions and stuff that makes it too complicated, or
Intempo which is more geared towards recording from radio channels
and would probably need some hack to connect to our mixer. If this
costs a few hundred Dollars that's ok but it cannot be complicated
with teeny LCD screens and menus. In essence I'd have to be able
to call someone and say "Turns this dark gray gizmo in the left
corner on and hit the red record button", not explain a lengthy
menu tree where they need a magnifier just to see it.

IOW what we need is a cassette recorder sans cassettes, that
records onto USB. Any ideas?

Olympus LS10, under $300. Great sound, record/stop/playback
buttons that just work. It also has the screens and so on, but the
pastor doesn't have to futz with them at all--hit the red button
and talk.

Thanks. Still needs a wall wart and SD cards (no USB sticks) but if
it has your endorsement maybe we can get a real power supply for it.

Question: It says "recording time can be extended with a SD card".
It is possible to record only onto the SD cards and not at all into
the device's memory? Someone needs to take it home and they should
not have to take the whole device because it may be needed again
soon after.

Hmmm...

Ok, you can record either to the internal memory, or to an SD card.
However, I don't see an aux in jack on it to connect to a PA system,
just uses its own mikes. Probably not!

Charlie

No, it has both line and mic inputs as well as its internal mics.


Probably one of those dreaded plastic-jacketed 3.5mm stereo jacks that
are known for intermittent connections :-(

A lot of times I had to use a rubber band to pull the plug to the side
so the audio wouldn't crackle.

Well, they do get flaky after awhile, it's true. On the other hand the whole
thing just about disappears in my fist.

Cheers,

Phil Hobbs

 

[Jan Panteltje]

On a sunny day (Tue, 28 Oct 2008 09:15:02 -0700) it happened Joerg
<notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote in
<uUGNk.6418$Ws1.3085@nlpi064.nbdc.sbc.com>:

Probably one of those dreaded plastic-jacketed 3.5mm stereo jacks that
are known for intermittent connections :-(

A lot of times I had to use a rubber band to pull the plug to the side
so the audio wouldn't crackle.

That only makes it worse, as it bends the contacts away.
Better solder on some wire and use a decent external connector,
if you cannot replace the bad one.
And use gold plated contacts.

 

[Joerg]

Jan Panteltje wrote:

On a sunny day (Tue, 28 Oct 2008 09:15:02 -0700) it happened Joerg
notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote in
uUGNk.6418$Ws1.3085@nlpi064.nbdc.sbc.com>:

Probably one of those dreaded plastic-jacketed 3.5mm stereo jacks that
are known for intermittent connections :-(

A lot of times I had to use a rubber band to pull the plug to the side
so the audio wouldn't crackle.

That only makes it worse, as it bends the contacts away.

It's the usual. The ugliest kludges have a habit of working fine for
decades. Once it works, don't touch it ;-)

Better solder on some wire and use a decent external connector,
if you cannot replace the bad one.
And use gold plated contacts.

Only if it is a real connector, not a 3.5mm stereo jack. The minimum
would be a 1/4" (6.3mm) jack, anything smaller would need the right
incantations to work reliably.

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Regards, Joerg

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[Joerg]

a7yvm109gf5d1@netzero.com wrote:

On Oct 26, 4:31 pm, Joerg <notthisjoerg...@removethispacbell.net
wrote:
For our church we are looking for mains-powered (no batteries) MP3
recorders that can record up to 1.5hrs, preferably onto a USB stick. As
simple as possible, like on/off, record, stop.

Unfortunately that sounds like a MD recorder. "Unfortunately" because
Sony has put a lot of effort into keeping the format as brain dead as
possible.
You could score an old Hi-MD unit (1GB disc) on eBay, one with line-in
and a good microphone. These units have line in too.

We have that here at home. But MD is a dying format.

I don't know what you are recording BTW.

The sermon at church, roughly 30mins. Plus occasionally a complete
memorial service which can be 1.5hrs.

The units support 16 bit, 44KHz PCM recording so you bypass the whole
ATRAC->MP3 transcoding.
They usually need a single AA battery and can last a long time even
recording. They also can use external power but this is an option you
need to select.
I think you'll end up with about the recording time you need.
These newer units connect to PCs.

Batteries are a big no-no at church unless absolutely needed. They leak,
they are depleted just at the wrong time, just not practical. Best is a
simple power connection. Why use batteries when 120V is right there?

Other solutions include a VCR. A good stereo Hi-Fi unit can record
great audio but you need to be careful with the dbx system in them.
(That's the system that gets rid of the head switching noise)
Bulky and slow. But cheap, and won't crash.

Oh, they do crash, just differently. Rat-tat-tat-*CLUNK*. Then you have
to surgically remove oodles of mangled tape. BTDT.

How about a nice, honking big reel to reel unit?

Yeah, that would have the real retro-feel

Or maybe Edison's drum recorder ...


--
Regards, Joerg

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[Jan Panteltje]

On a sunny day (Tue, 28 Oct 2008 10:06:35 -0700) it happened Joerg
<notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote in
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Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Tue, 28 Oct 2008 09:15:02 -0700) it happened Joerg
notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote in
uUGNk.6418$Ws1.3085@nlpi064.nbdc.sbc.com>:

Probably one of those dreaded plastic-jacketed 3.5mm stereo jacks that
are known for intermittent connections :-(

A lot of times I had to use a rubber band to pull the plug to the side
so the audio wouldn't crackle.

That only makes it worse, as it bends the contacts away.


It's the usual. The ugliest kludges have a habit of working fine for
decades. Once it works, don't touch it ;-)


Better solder on some wire and use a decent external connector,
if you cannot replace the bad one.
And use gold plated contacts.


Only if it is a real connector, not a 3.5mm stereo jack. The minimum
would be a 1/4" (6.3mm) jack, anything smaller would need the right
incantations to work reliably.

I have some all metal external (cable) female 3.5 mm connectors that have worked
OK for years.

Else the metal DIN 3 or 5 pole are very reliable.

 

[Spehro Pefhany]

On Sun, 26 Oct 2008 14:31:21 -0700, Joerg
<notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote:

For our church we are looking for mains-powered (no batteries) MP3
recorders that can record up to 1.5hrs, preferably onto a USB stick. As
simple as possible, like on/off, record, stop.

I have looked around the web and only found gear from Roland which had
mixing functions and stuff that makes it too complicated, or Intempo
which is more geared towards recording from radio channels and would
probably need some hack to connect to our mixer. If this costs a few
hundred Dollars that's ok but it cannot be complicated with teeny LCD
screens and menus. In essence I'd have to be able to call someone and
say "Turns this dark gray gizmo in the left corner on and hit the red
record button", not explain a lengthy menu tree where they need a
magnifier just to see it.

IOW what we need is a cassette recorder sans cassettes, that records
onto USB. Any ideas?

This one looks a bit dubious but it appears to be aimed at your sort
of application (uses SD cards).

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/492073-REG/Rolls_HR73_HR73_Rack_Mount.html
Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
--
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[Joerg]

Jan Panteltje wrote:

On a sunny day (Tue, 28 Oct 2008 10:06:35 -0700) it happened Joerg
notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote in
PEHNk.6426$Ws1.2118@nlpi064.nbdc.sbc.com>:

Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Tue, 28 Oct 2008 09:15:02 -0700) it happened Joerg
notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote in
uUGNk.6418$Ws1.3085@nlpi064.nbdc.sbc.com>:

Probably one of those dreaded plastic-jacketed 3.5mm stereo jacks that
are known for intermittent connections :-(

A lot of times I had to use a rubber band to pull the plug to the side
so the audio wouldn't crackle.
That only makes it worse, as it bends the contacts away.

It's the usual. The ugliest kludges have a habit of working fine for
decades. Once it works, don't touch it ;-)


Better solder on some wire and use a decent external connector,
if you cannot replace the bad one.
And use gold plated contacts.

Only if it is a real connector, not a 3.5mm stereo jack. The minimum
would be a 1/4" (6.3mm) jack, anything smaller would need the right
incantations to work reliably.

I have some all metal external (cable) female 3.5 mm connectors that have worked
OK for years.

I do, too. But the plastic stuff that you find embedded in many of those
audio gizmos is usually the same low grade as on PC sound cards.

Else the metal DIN 3 or 5 pole are very reliable.

Sure. But totally unknown in America. So, before moving to the US I
bought a bunch of them in Europe because our old Saba stereo has those.
Also the Philips Gamma tube set (remember those?).

--
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[Joerg]

Spehro Pefhany wrote:

On Sun, 26 Oct 2008 14:31:21 -0700, Joerg
notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote:

For our church we are looking for mains-powered (no batteries) MP3
recorders that can record up to 1.5hrs, preferably onto a USB stick. As
simple as possible, like on/off, record, stop.

I have looked around the web and only found gear from Roland which had
mixing functions and stuff that makes it too complicated, or Intempo
which is more geared towards recording from radio channels and would
probably need some hack to connect to our mixer. If this costs a few
hundred Dollars that's ok but it cannot be complicated with teeny LCD
screens and menus. In essence I'd have to be able to call someone and
say "Turns this dark gray gizmo in the left corner on and hit the red
record button", not explain a lengthy menu tree where they need a
magnifier just to see it.

IOW what we need is a cassette recorder sans cassettes, that records
onto USB. Any ideas?

This one looks a bit dubious but it appears to be aimed at your sort
of application (uses SD cards).

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/492073-REG/Rolls_HR73_HR73_Rack_Mount.html

Aha! Thanks. Rackmount is even better. I just wonder what they mean by
power supply, a wall wart or something a notch better. I'll show this to
the guys at church, if they want it I'll find out whether this recorder
can ignore the internal flash and go straight to removeable memory, and
what kind the supply is.

--
Regards, Joerg

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[Jan Panteltje]

On a sunny day (Tue, 28 Oct 2008 11:05:45 -0700) it happened Joerg
<notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote in
<iwINk.6431$Ws1.1608@nlpi064.nbdc.sbc.com>:

Else the metal DIN 3 or 5 pole are very reliable.


Sure. But totally unknown in America. So, before moving to the US I
bought a bunch of them in Europe because our old Saba stereo has those.

For those wondering what it is:
http://shop.conrad.nl/elektronica-meetapparatuur/componenten/stekker-verbinder/din-stekkers/

Also the Philips Gamma tube set (remember those?).

No, but I remember the Philips Plano, I liked those models:
http://people.cs.uu.nl/gerard/RadioCorner/Sets/Phil543.htm
Note the EM80 cat eye.
http://www.elwins-radiopage.demon.nl/radios/b4x23.htm

 

[Joerg]

Jan Panteltje wrote:

On a sunny day (Tue, 28 Oct 2008 11:05:45 -0700) it happened Joerg
notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote in

[...]

Also the Philips Gamma tube set (remember those?).

Sorry, typo, it's the Philips Gemma:

http://www.kofferradios.de/rr/ph/ph060.html

No, but I remember the Philips Plano, I liked those models:
http://people.cs.uu.nl/gerard/RadioCorner/Sets/Phil543.htm
Note the EM80 cat eye.
http://www.elwins-radiopage.demon.nl/radios/b4x23.htm

Way too modern in the design of it's enclosure ;-)

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[Jan Panteltje]

On a sunny day (Tue, 28 Oct 2008 11:48:29 -0700) it happened Joerg
<notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote in
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Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Tue, 28 Oct 2008 11:05:45 -0700) it happened Joerg
notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote in

[...]


Also the Philips Gamma tube set (remember those?).


Sorry, typo, it's the Philips Gemma:

http://www.kofferradios.de/rr/ph/ph060.html

Ah, yes, remember that very well, beautiful knobs too

 

[Rich Grise]

On Tue, 28 Oct 2008 11:05:45 -0700, Joerg wrote:

Jan Panteltje wrote:

Else the metal DIN 3 or 5 pole are very reliable.

Sure. But totally unknown in America.

Huh?
http://www.alliedelec.com/Audio-Video-Connectors/DIN-Audio-Connectors-/?N=4294965081

Cheers!
Rich