Are there simple line-powered MP3 recorders?

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Joerg

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For our church we are looking for mains-powered (no batteries) MP3
recorders that can record up to 1.5hrs, preferably onto a USB stick. As
simple as possible, like on/off, record, stop.

I have looked around the web and only found gear from Roland which had
mixing functions and stuff that makes it too complicated, or Intempo
which is more geared towards recording from radio channels and would
probably need some hack to connect to our mixer. If this costs a few
hundred Dollars that's ok but it cannot be complicated with teeny LCD
screens and menus. In essence I'd have to be able to call someone and
say "Turns this dark gray gizmo in the left corner on and hit the red
record button", not explain a lengthy menu tree where they need a
magnifier just to see it.

IOW what we need is a cassette recorder sans cassettes, that records
onto USB. Any ideas?

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

"gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam.
Use another domain or send PM.
 
On Sun, 26 Oct 2008 14:31:21 -0700, in sci.electronics.design Joerg
<notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote:

For our church we are looking for mains-powered (no batteries) MP3
recorders that can record up to 1.5hrs, preferably onto a USB stick. As
simple as possible, like on/off, record, stop.

I have looked around the web and only found gear from Roland which had
mixing functions and stuff that makes it too complicated, or Intempo
which is more geared towards recording from radio channels and would
probably need some hack to connect to our mixer. If this costs a few
hundred Dollars that's ok but it cannot be complicated with teeny LCD
screens and menus. In essence I'd have to be able to call someone and
say "Turns this dark gray gizmo in the left corner on and hit the red
record button", not explain a lengthy menu tree where they need a
magnifier just to see it.

IOW what we need is a cassette recorder sans cassettes, that records
onto USB. Any ideas?
maybe something like this
http://www.auditory.org/recorders.html#pmd660
or browse through the bhphoto site for the better ideas

martin
 
Joerg wrote:

For our church we are looking for mains-powered (no batteries) MP3
recorders that can record up to 1.5hrs, preferably onto a USB stick. As
simple as possible, like on/off, record, stop.
....
IOW what we need is a cassette recorder sans cassettes, that records
onto USB. Any ideas?
Does it have to be main powered, or would a USB powered recorder
be acceptable?


--
Guy Macon
<http://www.GuyMacon.com/>
 
"Joerg" <notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote in message
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| For our church we are looking for mains-powered (no batteries) MP3
| recorders that can record up to 1.5hrs, preferably onto a USB stick.
As
| simple as possible, like on/off, record, stop.
|
| I have looked around the web and only found gear from Roland which had
| mixing functions and stuff that makes it too complicated, or Intempo
| which is more geared towards recording from radio channels and would
| probably need some hack to connect to our mixer. If this costs a few
| hundred Dollars that's ok but it cannot be complicated with teeny LCD
| screens and menus. In essence I'd have to be able to call someone and
| say "Turns this dark gray gizmo in the left corner on and hit the red
| record button", not explain a lengthy menu tree where they need a
| magnifier just to see it.
|
| IOW what we need is a cassette recorder sans cassettes, that records
| onto USB. Any ideas?
|
| --
| Regards, Joerg
|
| http://www.analogconsultants.com/
|
| "gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam.
| Use another domain or send PM.

This is neat...
http://www.ikey-audio.com/ikey.htm

Cheers
 
Guy Macon wrote:
Joerg wrote:

For our church we are looking for mains-powered (no batteries) MP3
recorders that can record up to 1.5hrs, preferably onto a USB stick. As
simple as possible, like on/off, record, stop.
...
IOW what we need is a cassette recorder sans cassettes, that records
onto USB. Any ideas?

Does it have to be main powered, or would a USB powered recorder
be acceptable?
Preferably not, because then some PC has to run. A totally autonomous
device would be best. And ideally no wall wart.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

"gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam.
Use another domain or send PM.
 
Martin Riddle wrote:
"Joerg" <notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote in message
news:zh5Nk.3935$D32.3441@flpi146.ffdc.sbc.com...
| For our church we are looking for mains-powered (no batteries) MP3
| recorders that can record up to 1.5hrs, preferably onto a USB stick.
As
| simple as possible, like on/off, record, stop.
|
| I have looked around the web and only found gear from Roland which had
| mixing functions and stuff that makes it too complicated, or Intempo
| which is more geared towards recording from radio channels and would
| probably need some hack to connect to our mixer. If this costs a few
| hundred Dollars that's ok but it cannot be complicated with teeny LCD
| screens and menus. In essence I'd have to be able to call someone and
| say "Turns this dark gray gizmo in the left corner on and hit the red
| record button", not explain a lengthy menu tree where they need a
| magnifier just to see it.
|
| IOW what we need is a cassette recorder sans cassettes, that records
| onto USB. Any ideas?
|
| --
| Regards, Joerg
|
| http://www.analogconsultants.com/
|
| "gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam.
| Use another domain or send PM.

This is neat...
http://www.ikey-audio.com/ikey.htm
Yes, I found a few of this kind. But: AA batteries, charger ...

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

"gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam.
Use another domain or send PM.
 
"Joerg" <notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote in message
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| Martin Riddle wrote:
| > "Joerg" <notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote in message
| > news:zh5Nk.3935$D32.3441@flpi146.ffdc.sbc.com...
| > | For our church we are looking for mains-powered (no batteries) MP3
| > | recorders that can record up to 1.5hrs, preferably onto a USB
stick.
| > As
| > | simple as possible, like on/off, record, stop.
| > |
| > | I have looked around the web and only found gear from Roland which
had
| > | mixing functions and stuff that makes it too complicated, or
Intempo
| > | which is more geared towards recording from radio channels and
would
| > | probably need some hack to connect to our mixer. If this costs a
few
| > | hundred Dollars that's ok but it cannot be complicated with teeny
LCD
| > | screens and menus. In essence I'd have to be able to call someone
and
| > | say "Turns this dark gray gizmo in the left corner on and hit the
red
| > | record button", not explain a lengthy menu tree where they need a
| > | magnifier just to see it.
| > |
| > | IOW what we need is a cassette recorder sans cassettes, that
records
| > | onto USB. Any ideas?
| > |
| > | --
| > | Regards, Joerg
| > |
| > | http://www.analogconsultants.com/
| > |
| > | "gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam.
| > | Use another domain or send PM.
| >
| > This is neat...
| > http://www.ikey-audio.com/ikey.htm
| >
|
| Yes, I found a few of this kind. But: AA batteries, charger ...
|
| --

The Ikey appears to need a wallwart. Its much easier to buy a UL
approved/listed wallwart than to put a AC plug in the box. You'll be
hard pressed to find that.
Have you looked on the BHphoto web site? lots of pro stuff there, might
be what your looking for.


Cheers
 
On Sun, 26 Oct 2008 14:31:21 -0700, Joerg
<notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote:

For our church we are looking for mains-powered (no batteries) MP3
recorders that can record up to 1.5hrs, preferably onto a USB stick. As
simple as possible, like on/off, record, stop.

I have looked around the web and only found gear from Roland which had
mixing functions and stuff that makes it too complicated, or Intempo
which is more geared towards recording from radio channels and would
probably need some hack to connect to our mixer. If this costs a few
hundred Dollars that's ok but it cannot be complicated with teeny LCD
screens and menus. In essence I'd have to be able to call someone and
say "Turns this dark gray gizmo in the left corner on and hit the red
record button", not explain a lengthy menu tree where they need a
magnifier just to see it.

IOW what we need is a cassette recorder sans cassettes, that records
onto USB. Any ideas?
Jeorge,
We used a pro gear Tascam recorder for our last project, but it used
compact flash, not USB flash, and is in the $900 range. I like your
idea, though, and would like to buy it as well. Maybe it is time to
design one!

Charlie
Edmondson Engineering Inc.
 
On Mon, 27 Oct 2008 02:00:31 +0000, Martin Riddle wrote:

"Joerg" <notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote in message
news:U28Nk.6047$be.934@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com...
| Martin Riddle wrote:
| > "Joerg" <notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote in message
| > news:zh5Nk.3935$D32.3441@flpi146.ffdc.sbc.com...
| > | For our church we are looking for mains-powered (no batteries) MP3
| > | recorders that can record up to 1.5hrs, preferably onto a USB
stick.
| > As
| > | simple as possible, like on/off, record, stop.
| > |
| > | I have looked around the web and only found gear from Roland which
had
| > | mixing functions and stuff that makes it too complicated, or
Intempo
| > | which is more geared towards recording from radio channels and
would
| > | probably need some hack to connect to our mixer. If this costs a
few
| > | hundred Dollars that's ok but it cannot be complicated with teeny
LCD
| > | screens and menus. In essence I'd have to be able to call someone
and
| > | say "Turns this dark gray gizmo in the left corner on and hit the
red
| > | record button", not explain a lengthy menu tree where they need a
| > | magnifier just to see it.
| > |
| > | IOW what we need is a cassette recorder sans cassettes, that
records
| > | onto USB. Any ideas?
| > |
| > | --
| > | Regards, Joerg
| > |
| > | http://www.analogconsultants.com/
| > |
| > | "gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam. Use another domain
| > | or send PM.
|
| > This is neat...
| > http://www.ikey-audio.com/ikey.htm
|
|
| Yes, I found a few of this kind. But: AA batteries, charger ...
|
| --

The Ikey appears to need a wallwart. Its much easier to buy a UL
approved/listed wallwart than to put a AC plug in the box. You'll be hard
pressed to find that.
Have you looked on the BHphoto web site? lots of pro stuff there, might be
what your looking for.


Cheers
Put the Ikey and wallwart in a project box and run an extension cord
out of the project box.

--
Joe Chisolm
Marble Falls, TX
 
Martin Riddle wrote:
"Joerg" <notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote in message
news:U28Nk.6047$be.934@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com...
| Martin Riddle wrote:
| > "Joerg" <notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote in message
| > news:zh5Nk.3935$D32.3441@flpi146.ffdc.sbc.com...
| > | For our church we are looking for mains-powered (no batteries) MP3
| > | recorders that can record up to 1.5hrs, preferably onto a USB
stick.
| > As
| > | simple as possible, like on/off, record, stop.
| > |
| > | I have looked around the web and only found gear from Roland which
had
| > | mixing functions and stuff that makes it too complicated, or
Intempo
| > | which is more geared towards recording from radio channels and
would
| > | probably need some hack to connect to our mixer. If this costs a
few
| > | hundred Dollars that's ok but it cannot be complicated with teeny
LCD
| > | screens and menus. In essence I'd have to be able to call someone
and
| > | say "Turns this dark gray gizmo in the left corner on and hit the
red
| > | record button", not explain a lengthy menu tree where they need a
| > | magnifier just to see it.
| > |
| > | IOW what we need is a cassette recorder sans cassettes, that
records
| > | onto USB. Any ideas?
| > |
| > | --
| > | Regards, Joerg
| > |
| > | http://www.analogconsultants.com/
| > |
| > | "gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam.
| > | Use another domain or send PM.
|
| > This is neat...
| > http://www.ikey-audio.com/ikey.htm
|
|
| Yes, I found a few of this kind. But: AA batteries, charger ...
|
| --

The Ikey appears to need a wallwart. Its much easier to buy a UL
approved/listed wallwart than to put a AC plug in the box. You'll be
hard pressed to find that.
Have you looked on the BHphoto web site? lots of pro stuff there, might
be what your looking for.
Yes. Mostly they offer products with intermediate disk storage but from
there they transfer to not so modern media such as CD, not USB sticks.
Like this one:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/447951-REG/Marantz_CDR310_CDR_310_2_Channel_Stereo_Mono.html

The other ones are usually battery operated pod-style devices. Maybe we
have to settle for one of these but it's not ideal. No good power
supply, can often not be operated without inserted batteries (which in
this scenario _will_ leak some day), or aren't USB compatible. Flash
cards and stuff are nice but the de-facto standard these days is USB.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

"gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam.
Use another domain or send PM.
 
Joe Chisolm wrote:
On Mon, 27 Oct 2008 02:00:31 +0000, Martin Riddle wrote:

"Joerg" <notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote in message
news:U28Nk.6047$be.934@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com...
| Martin Riddle wrote:
| > "Joerg" <notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote in message
| > news:zh5Nk.3935$D32.3441@flpi146.ffdc.sbc.com...
| > | For our church we are looking for mains-powered (no batteries) MP3
| > | recorders that can record up to 1.5hrs, preferably onto a USB
stick.
| > As
| > | simple as possible, like on/off, record, stop.
| > |
| > | I have looked around the web and only found gear from Roland which
had
| > | mixing functions and stuff that makes it too complicated, or
Intempo
| > | which is more geared towards recording from radio channels and
would
| > | probably need some hack to connect to our mixer. If this costs a
few
| > | hundred Dollars that's ok but it cannot be complicated with teeny
LCD
| > | screens and menus. In essence I'd have to be able to call someone
and
| > | say "Turns this dark gray gizmo in the left corner on and hit the
red
| > | record button", not explain a lengthy menu tree where they need a
| > | magnifier just to see it.
| > |
| > | IOW what we need is a cassette recorder sans cassettes, that
records
| > | onto USB. Any ideas?
| > |
| > | --
| > | Regards, Joerg
| > |
| > | http://www.analogconsultants.com/
| > |
| > | "gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam. Use another domain
| > | or send PM.
|
| > This is neat...
| > http://www.ikey-audio.com/ikey.htm
|
|
| Yes, I found a few of this kind. But: AA batteries, charger ...
|
| --

The Ikey appears to need a wallwart. Its much easier to buy a UL
approved/listed wallwart than to put a AC plug in the box. You'll be hard
pressed to find that.
Have you looked on the BHphoto web site? lots of pro stuff there, might be
what your looking for.


Cheers

Put the Ikey and wallwart in a project box and run an extension cord
out of the project box.
I wanted to avoid yet another project but it might have to be done.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

"gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam.
Use another domain or send PM.
 
Charlie E. wrote:
On Sun, 26 Oct 2008 14:31:21 -0700, Joerg
notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote:

For our church we are looking for mains-powered (no batteries) MP3
recorders that can record up to 1.5hrs, preferably onto a USB stick. As
simple as possible, like on/off, record, stop.

I have looked around the web and only found gear from Roland which had
mixing functions and stuff that makes it too complicated, or Intempo
which is more geared towards recording from radio channels and would
probably need some hack to connect to our mixer. If this costs a few
hundred Dollars that's ok but it cannot be complicated with teeny LCD
screens and menus. In essence I'd have to be able to call someone and
say "Turns this dark gray gizmo in the left corner on and hit the red
record button", not explain a lengthy menu tree where they need a
magnifier just to see it.

IOW what we need is a cassette recorder sans cassettes, that records
onto USB. Any ideas?

Jeorge,
We used a pro gear Tascam recorder for our last project, but it used
compact flash, not USB flash, and is in the $900 range. I like your
idea, though, and would like to buy it as well. Maybe it is time to
design one!
Do you remember the Tascam model? Flash isn't ideal but a lot better
than CD or having to plug the whole device into a PC. That is because a
church member does the spooling onto the web from home and would then
have to drive back to church to return the unit.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

"gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam.
Use another domain or send PM.
 
On a sunny day (Mon, 27 Oct 2008 09:26:29 -0700) it happened Joerg
<notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote in
<0ZlNk.3376$hc1.2786@flpi150.ffdc.sbc.com>:

Charlie E. wrote:
On Sun, 26 Oct 2008 14:31:21 -0700, Joerg
notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote:

For our church we are looking for mains-powered (no batteries) MP3
recorders that can record up to 1.5hrs, preferably onto a USB stick. As
simple as possible, like on/off, record, stop.

I have looked around the web and only found gear from Roland which had
mixing functions and stuff that makes it too complicated, or Intempo
which is more geared towards recording from radio channels and would
probably need some hack to connect to our mixer. If this costs a few
hundred Dollars that's ok but it cannot be complicated with teeny LCD
screens and menus. In essence I'd have to be able to call someone and
say "Turns this dark gray gizmo in the left corner on and hit the red
record button", not explain a lengthy menu tree where they need a
magnifier just to see it.

IOW what we need is a cassette recorder sans cassettes, that records
onto USB. Any ideas?

Jeorge,
We used a pro gear Tascam recorder for our last project, but it used
compact flash, not USB flash, and is in the $900 range. I like your
idea, though, and would like to buy it as well. Maybe it is time to
design one!


Do you remember the Tascam model? Flash isn't ideal but a lot better
than CD or having to plug the whole device into a PC. That is because a
church member does the spooling onto the web from home and would then
have to drive back to church to return the unit.
Use a PC, with Linux, soundcard, give it an IP addresss and webserver.
Auto update the audio from a script, like I do with security cam.
Now tell everybody about the web address, then they can play the mp3s
with media player or something.
If must be, then you can give everybody a password.
That PC should be on 24/7, or at least boot when the power comes on...
This can all be full automatic.
This is how I directly encode to mp3 from soundcard (scipt):

# save status
cmix /dev/mixer1 save /root/this1

cmix /dev/mixer1 vol 50
cmix /dev/mixer1 line1 0
cmix /dev/mixer1 mic 0
cmix /dev/mixer1 pcm 0
cmix /dev/mixer1 cd 0
cmix /dev/mixer1 speaker 0
cmix /dev/mixer1 phin 0
cmix /dev/mixer1 phout 0
cmix /dev/mixer1 video 0
cmix /dev/mixer1 rcs line on
cmix /dev/mixer1 igain 64
cmix /dev/mixer1 line 50

rec -d /dev/dsp1 -r 44100 -c 2 -s w -t raw - | lame -r -s 44.1 -m s -x - line.mp3

# ....
# restore status
cmix /dev/mixer1 load /root/this1

In crontab copy the file to the webserver at given times, and
start a new one.
You can also assign a hot key for that of course.
 
Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Mon, 27 Oct 2008 09:26:29 -0700) it happened Joerg
notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote in
0ZlNk.3376$hc1.2786@flpi150.ffdc.sbc.com>:

Charlie E. wrote:
On Sun, 26 Oct 2008 14:31:21 -0700, Joerg
notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote:

For our church we are looking for mains-powered (no batteries) MP3
recorders that can record up to 1.5hrs, preferably onto a USB stick. As
simple as possible, like on/off, record, stop.

I have looked around the web and only found gear from Roland which had
mixing functions and stuff that makes it too complicated, or Intempo
which is more geared towards recording from radio channels and would
probably need some hack to connect to our mixer. If this costs a few
hundred Dollars that's ok but it cannot be complicated with teeny LCD
screens and menus. In essence I'd have to be able to call someone and
say "Turns this dark gray gizmo in the left corner on and hit the red
record button", not explain a lengthy menu tree where they need a
magnifier just to see it.

IOW what we need is a cassette recorder sans cassettes, that records
onto USB. Any ideas?
Jeorge,
We used a pro gear Tascam recorder for our last project, but it used
compact flash, not USB flash, and is in the $900 range. I like your
idea, though, and would like to buy it as well. Maybe it is time to
design one!

Do you remember the Tascam model? Flash isn't ideal but a lot better
than CD or having to plug the whole device into a PC. That is because a
church member does the spooling onto the web from home and would then
have to drive back to church to return the unit.

Use a PC, with Linux, soundcard, give it an IP addresss and webserver.
Auto update the audio from a script, like I do with security cam.
Now tell everybody about the web address, then they can play the mp3s
with media player or something.

I suggested exactly that to our IT guru at church. He does not want yet
another PC, it's enough work as it is, and I agree with him. None of us
gets paid, we all serve freely.


If must be, then you can give everybody a password.

Not needed. After all, the bible was brought to us without DRM,
passwords or any of that ;-)


That PC should be on 24/7, or at least boot when the power comes on...

Not possible. It's inside the sanctuary and the fire marshall as well as
the insurance carrier won't like that. Also, we just want to keep thing
as simple as possible. No boot-up, no hard drive, nada.

[...]

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

"gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam.
Use another domain or send PM.
 
On Sun, 26 Oct 2008 14:31:21 -0700, Joerg wrote:
IOW what we need is a cassette recorder sans cassettes, that records onto
USB. Any ideas?
I have one of these:
http://www.usersmanualguide.com/panasonic/ic_recorder/rr-qr160
which says in "High Quality" mode it can do 2 hours, but it doesn't know
anything about MP3 - it only has an analog output. It was about $70.00
new, but I had some cash on me at the time, and a use for it; you could
use it like that cassette recorder sans cassettes, but you'd need another
box to turn the analog to an MP3.

Good Luck!
Rich
 
On a sunny day (Mon, 27 Oct 2008 10:06:06 -0700) it happened Joerg
<notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote in
<aymNk.6108$be.3129@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com>:

That PC should be on 24/7, or at least boot when the power comes on...


Not possible. It's inside the sanctuary and the fire marshall as well as
the insurance carrier won't like that. Also, we just want to keep thing
as simple as possible. No boot-up, no hard drive, nada.
Na, jaaaa, when I was a kid we had two empty cans with a string between.
hehe
;-)
 
"Joerg" <notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote in message
news:aymNk.6108$be.3129@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com...
Not needed. After all, the bible was brought to us without DRM, passwords or
any of that ;-)
Just wait until someone who attends your church runs for public office and
your web server gets hammered trying to fulfill all the reporters' requests,
trying to dig up dirt. :)

I think your idea of a standalone widget is better than a PC. Why don't you
like wallwarts, though? The possibility of them getting lost?
 
Joerg wrote:
For our church we are looking for mains-powered (no batteries) MP3
recorders that can record up to 1.5hrs, preferably onto a USB stick. As
simple as possible, like on/off, record, stop.

I have looked around the web and only found gear from Roland which had
mixing functions and stuff that makes it too complicated, or Intempo
which is more geared towards recording from radio channels and would
probably need some hack to connect to our mixer. If this costs a few
hundred Dollars that's ok but it cannot be complicated with teeny LCD
screens and menus. In essence I'd have to be able to call someone and
say "Turns this dark gray gizmo in the left corner on and hit the red
record button", not explain a lengthy menu tree where they need a
magnifier just to see it.

IOW what we need is a cassette recorder sans cassettes, that records
onto USB. Any ideas?

Olympus LS10, under $300. Great sound, record/stop/playback buttons
that just work. It also has the screens and so on, but the pastor
doesn't have to futz with them at all--hit the red button and talk.

Cheers,

Phil
 
Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Mon, 27 Oct 2008 10:06:06 -0700) it happened Joerg
notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote in
aymNk.6108$be.3129@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com>:

That PC should be on 24/7, or at least boot when the power comes on...

Not possible. It's inside the sanctuary and the fire marshall as well as
the insurance carrier won't like that. Also, we just want to keep thing
as simple as possible. No boot-up, no hard drive, nada.

Na, jaaaa, when I was a kid we had two empty cans with a string between.
hehe
;-)

We'd like the string between the cans to be digital :)

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Joel Koltner wrote:
"Joerg" <notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote in message
news:aymNk.6108$be.3129@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com...
Not needed. After all, the bible was brought to us without DRM, passwords or
any of that ;-)

Just wait until someone who attends your church runs for public office and
your web server gets hammered trying to fulfill all the reporters' requests,
trying to dig up dirt. :)
It's all open. No dirt though :)


I think your idea of a standalone widget is better than a PC. Why don't you
like wallwarts, though? The possibility of them getting lost?
Have seen too many go up in smoke. You never know where stuff really
comes from these days or whether the engineers who designed it had a
clue. Also, the average quality of electrolytics has fallen dramatically
and I'd rather have one blow up in a metal enclosure than in a plastic
thingie on the carpet.

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