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Could someone advise please. Is it allowed to run a 240vac flexible
appliance lead eg TV etc; through the wall cavity. If so what would be the
maximum length of lead that can be hidden.
Many thanks in advance.
What's wrong with putting in a GPO?
GPO. This way, Make an entry through the Gyprock and drop the lead down to"Jimjam" <alone@home> wrote in message
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Could someone advise please. Is it allowed to run a 240vac flexible
appliance lead eg TV etc; through the wall cavity. If so what would be
the maximum length of lead that can be hidden.
Many thanks in advance.
What's wrong with putting in a GPO?
Nothing as far as I'm concerned. Except you need a license to install a
"Noodnik" <bxvarley@weastnet.com.au> wrote in message
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"Jimjam" <alone@home> wrote in message
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Could someone advise please. Is it allowed to run a 240vac flexible
appliance lead eg TV etc; through the wall cavity. If so what would be
the maximum length of lead that can be hidden.
Many thanks in advance.
What's wrong with putting in a GPO?
Nothing as far as I'm concerned. Except you need a license to install a
GPO. This way, Make an entry through the Gyprock and drop the lead down to
the skirting GPO and plug it in there. All nicely hidden out of the way and
the set is flush with the wall.
Not legal unless you are licensed best I know
disconnection and the lead was left intact you would get away with it.Jimjam wrote:
"Noodnik" <bxvarley@weastnet.com.au> wrote in message
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"Jimjam" <alone@home> wrote in message
news:4c142f9a$0$17176$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
Could someone advise please. Is it allowed to run a 240vac flexible
appliance lead eg TV etc; through the wall cavity. If so what would
be the maximum length of lead that can be hidden.
Many thanks in advance.
What's wrong with putting in a GPO?
Nothing as far as I'm concerned. Except you need a license to install
a GPO. This way, Make an entry through the Gyprock and drop the lead
down to the skirting GPO and plug it in there. All nicely hidden out
of the way and the set is flush with the wall.
Not legal unless you are licensed best I know
If the holes are big enough to pass the plug through without
k?atec7 7 > wrote:
Jimjam wrote:
"Noodnik" <bxvarley@weastnet.com.au> wrote in message
news:i8Odnd7dns7wr4nRnZ2dnUVZ8iydnZ2d@westnet.com.au...
"Jimjam" <alone@home> wrote in message
news:4c142f9a$0$17176$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
Could someone advise please. Is it allowed to run a 240vac flexible
appliance lead eg TV etc; through the wall cavity. If so what would
be the maximum length of lead that can be hidden.
Many thanks in advance.
What's wrong with putting in a GPO?
Nothing as far as I'm concerned. Except you need a license to install
a GPO. This way, Make an entry through the Gyprock and drop the lead
down to the skirting GPO and plug it in there. All nicely hidden out
of the way and the set is flush with the wall.
Not legal unless you are licensed best I know
If the holes are big enough to pass the plug through without
disconnection and the lead was left intact you would get away with it.
getting away and legal aint the same
In that case it's easy, just use an extension cord.F Murtz wrote:
atec7 7 > wrote:
Jimjam wrote:
"Noodnik" <bxvarley@weastnet.com.au> wrote in message
news:i8Odnd7dns7wr4nRnZ2dnUVZ8iydnZ2d@westnet.com.au...
"Jimjam" <alone@home> wrote in message
news:4c142f9a$0$17176$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
Could someone advise please. Is it allowed to run a 240vac flexible
appliance lead eg TV etc; through the wall cavity. If so what would
be the maximum length of lead that can be hidden.
Many thanks in advance.
What's wrong with putting in a GPO?
Nothing as far as I'm concerned. Except you need a license to install
a GPO. This way, Make an entry through the Gyprock and drop the lead
down to the skirting GPO and plug it in there. All nicely hidden out
of the way and the set is flush with the wall.
Not legal unless you are licensed best I know
If the holes are big enough to pass the plug through without
disconnection and the lead was left intact you would get away with it.
getting away and legal aint the same
k?
** ??????????????????????????????In that case it's easy, just use an extension cord.
all has to be correct and neat. I may cut the plug off and put a Canon on,F Murtz wrote:
atec7 7 > wrote:
Jimjam wrote:
"Noodnik" <bxvarley@weastnet.com.au> wrote in message
news:i8Odnd7dns7wr4nRnZ2dnUVZ8iydnZ2d@westnet.com.au...
"Jimjam" <alone@home> wrote in message
news:4c142f9a$0$17176$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
Could someone advise please. Is it allowed to run a 240vac flexible
appliance lead eg TV etc; through the wall cavity. If so what would
be the maximum length of lead that can be hidden.
Many thanks in advance.
What's wrong with putting in a GPO?
Nothing as far as I'm concerned. Except you need a license to install
a GPO. This way, Make an entry through the Gyprock and drop the lead
down to the skirting GPO and plug it in there. All nicely hidden out
of the way and the set is flush with the wall.
Not legal unless you are licensed best I know
If the holes are big enough to pass the plug through without
disconnection and the lead was left intact you would get away with it.
getting away and legal aint the same
k?
Quite right. The fact is these sets will be installed in a public area, so
Quite right. The fact is these sets will be installed in a public area, so
all has to be correct and neat. I may cut the plug off and put a Canon on,
and get hard wired Canon sockets installed on their own circuit. Should
hide nicely behind the units.
do you have a cablers permit or a sparkys ?On Jun 13, 12:48 pm, F Murtz <hagg...@hotmail.com> wrote:
atec7 7 > wrote:
Jimjam wrote:
"Noodnik" <bxvar...@weastnet.com.au> wrote in message
news:i8Odnd7dns7wr4nRnZ2dnUVZ8iydnZ2d@westnet.com.au...
"Jimjam" <alone@home> wrote in message
news:4c142f9a$0$17176$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
Could someone advise please. Is it allowed to run a 240vac flexible
appliance lead eg TV etc; through the wall cavity. If so what would
be the maximum length of lead that can be hidden.
Many thanks in advance.
What's wrong with putting in a GPO?
Nothing as far as I'm concerned. Except you need a license to install
a GPO. This way, Make an entry through the Gyprock and drop the lead
down to the skirting GPO and plug it in there. All nicely hidden out
of the way and the set is flush with the wall.
Not legal unless you are licensed best I know
If the holes are big enough to pass the plug through without
disconnection and the lead was left intact you would get away with it.
If (for legal reasons) you don't want to remove the plug and re-attach
it, you could cut suitable holes to fit the entire plug through,
go and buy a blank wall plate, file a notch in the side of it for the
cord to feed through, and then screw it over the hole to cover it.
We have done this before when running things with large plugs on ends
like VGA cables, where you definitely DONT want to cut the end off and
re-join.
That makes it a fixed cable
wrongwith a more neat looking hood moulded into it for this exact purpose
(maybe Farnell) ?
Finally, if there is excess cable, dont let it pile up in the bottom
of the wall cavity, this could lead to overheating at maximum load.
(possible if running a 2400w heater etc). You might be better off
getting a cord made with 15 / 20A cable if this is going to happen as
the cavity/cord would surely be hotter due to no free air circulation/
less air volume than the room.
bad advice and possible liable
Note that standard white household extension cords at woolies etc are
typically 0.7s mm sq whereas the cable electricians use in 10A power
circuits is typically 2.5mm sq (nearly 400% increase in conductor
cross sectional surface area.). This sort of cable would probably not
even raise a sweat at 10a load
you really want to get sued ?At the end of the day, I have a feeling that what you propose is not
legal (in QLD), probably for this reason alone (risk of overheating
cables).
As said it aint legal unless run down the outer wall
Ironically putting in a DIY GPO would probably be less risk legally
(If you know what you are doing) , as no-one "official" would notice
it if done neatly where the extension cord would stand out like the
proverbial dog balls.
more bad comment
atec7 7 > wrote:
Jimjam wrote:
"Noodnik" <bxvar...@weastnet.com.au> wrote in message
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"Jimjam" <alone@home> wrote in message
news:4c142f9a$0$17176$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
Could someone advise please. Is it allowed to run a 240vac flexible
appliance lead eg TV etc; through the wall cavity. If so what would
be the maximum length of lead that can be hidden.
Many thanks in advance.
What's wrong with putting in a GPO?
Nothing as far as I'm concerned. Except you need a license to install
a GPO. This way, Make an entry through the Gyprock and drop the lead
down to the skirting GPO and plug it in there. All nicely hidden out
of the way and the set is flush with the wall.
Not legal unless you are licensed best I know
If the holes are big enough to pass the plug through without
disconnection and the lead was left intact you would get away with it.
Believe it or not, they're still frequently used by the "I know betterQuite right. The fact is these sets will be installed in a public area, so
all has to be correct and neat. I may cut the plug off and put a Canon on,
** WHAAAAAAAATTTTT ??????????????????
doing that."Jimjam"
Quite right. The fact is these sets will be installed in a public area,
so all has to be correct and neat. I may cut the plug off and put a Canon
on,
** WHAAAAAAAATTTTT ??????????????????
and get hard wired Canon sockets installed on their own circuit. Should
hide nicely behind the units.
** Fraid you have a BIG problem there - pal.
Cannon connectors ( aka XLRs or the obsolete XLR-LNEs ) are NOT
approved mains connectors !!!!
The XLR-LNE ( aka Cannon mains) connectors were *withdrawn from the
market* about 20 years ago on safety grounds and in any case were **
NEVER ** allowed to be installed on a wall in lieu of a GPO.
What you are suggesting is 100% NUTS and 100 % ILLEGAL !!!!
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BTW:
Do not come back telling me that you can use the Neutrik "PowerCon"
ther - as that connector is just as illegal as the old Cannon LNEs for
the purpose you are suggesting.
.... Phil
Keep your hair on. I was being sarcastic and wouldn't dream of dream of
Quite right. The fact is these sets will be installed in a public area,
so
all has to be correct and neat. I may cut the plug off and put a Canon
on,
** WHAAAAAAAATTTTT ??????????????????
Believe it or not, they're still frequently used by the "I know better
than you" brigade.
What you are suggesting is 100% NUTS and 100 % ILLEGAL !!!!
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Keep your hair on. I was being sarcastic and wouldn't dream of dream of
doing that.
are adequately protected from risk of catching fire by the usual 15
amp breaker in the power box.
** One miserable amp between friends is but nothing ...Phil Allison wrote:
are adequately protected from risk of catching fire by the usual 15
amp breaker in the power box.
Where did you come up with the idea that 15 amp breakers are usual? Apart
from the simple fact that 15A breakers are very uncommon (16A is
standard),
most power circuits in a modern would be protected by a 20A breaker.
Point proved. No "usual 15 amp breaker" in sight."David the Pedantic Jerk"
Phil Allison wrote:
are adequately protected from risk of catching fire by the usual 15
amp breaker in the power box.
Where did you come up with the idea that 15 amp breakers are usual? Apart
from the simple fact that 15A breakers are very uncommon (16A is
standard),
** One miserable amp between friends is but nothing ...
most power circuits in a modern would be protected by a 20A breaker.
** Just had a peek at the fuse panel here - 15 units and a house circuit.
Found the following:
15 x 8 amp ceramic fuses for lighting.
1 x 8 amp circuit breaker for same.
11 x 15 amp ceramic fuses for power circuits.
4 x 16 amp circuit breakers for same.
1 x 20 amp circuit breaker for same.
Not that any of this makes one tiny bit of difference to what I posted
above.
Pedants are like rust -
both never sleep ......