AC/AC Converter

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I know this is perhaps a stupid question, but how safe are these AC/AC
converters, such as those sold at Tricky Dicks?
 
"MousePad" <noname@some.isp.com>
I know this is perhaps a stupid question, but how safe are these AC/AC
converters, such as those sold at Tricky Dicks?
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** Please be more specific.

I for one have no idea what sort of products you are on about.

Give a link to one of them.




..... Phil
 
Phil Allison wrote:
"MousePad" <noname@some.isp.com
I know this is perhaps a stupid question, but how safe are these AC/AC
converters, such as those sold at Tricky Dicks?


** Please be more specific.

I for one have no idea what sort of products you are on about.

Give a link to one of them.
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The one that I am looking at is a 12vac @ 1500mA.

URL:http://www.dse.com.au/cgi-bin/dse.storefront/481ac6a80117251c273fc0a87f9c06c2/Product/View/M9635
 
MousePad wrote:
Phil Allison wrote:
"MousePad" <noname@some.isp.com
I know this is perhaps a stupid question, but how safe are these
AC/AC converters, such as those sold at Tricky Dicks?


** Please be more specific.

I for one have no idea what sort of products you are on about.

Give a link to one of them.

The one that I am looking at is a 12vac @ 1500mA.

URL:http://www.dse.com.au/cgi-bin/dse.storefront/481ac6a80117251c273fc0a87f9c06c2/Product/View/M9635

It's called adaptor, it says 24 Vac. I don't think anything would be safe for you if you can't read specs of the product.
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Tom
 
MousePad wrote:
Phil Allison wrote:
"MousePad" <noname@some.isp.com
I know this is perhaps a stupid question, but how safe are these
AC/AC converters, such as those sold at Tricky Dicks?


** Please be more specific.

I for one have no idea what sort of products you are on about.

Give a link to one of them.

The one that I am looking at is a 12vac @ 1500mA.

URL:http://www.dse.com.au/cgi-bin/dse.storefront/481ac6a80117251c273fc0a87f9c06c2/Product/View/M9635
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Wrong link:
http://www.dse.com.au/cgi-bin/dse.storefront/481accc202aa9eee2740c0a87f9c0751/Product/View/M9655

And it is only 500mA.

The link from the other post is for a 24vac @ 1500mA.
 
David L. Jones wrote:
If used as intended they are safe. Devices like these have to pass
various safety regulations to be sold in this country.

However, they (like anything mains powered) can become unsafe if you
do something silly with it.

Tell us what it is you want to do, and what your real concern is.

Dave.
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I would be using it for a speed regulator for a train set. I
incorrectly assumed that because the motors are DC, the supply for the
regulator was also DC, it is not - 10 to 15vac.
 
"MousePad" <noname@some.isp.com> wrote in message
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David L. Jones wrote:
If used as intended they are safe. Devices like these have to pass
various safety regulations to be sold in this country.

However, they (like anything mains powered) can become unsafe if you
do something silly with it.

Tell us what it is you want to do, and what your real concern is.

Dave.

I would be using it for a speed regulator for a train set. I incorrectly
assumed that because the motors are DC, the supply for the regulator was
also DC, it is not - 10 to 15vac.
Click to expand...
In that case it is perfectly safe.
What current do you need?

Dave.
 
David L. Jones wrote:
I would be using it for a speed regulator for a train set. I incorrectly
assumed that because the motors are DC, the supply for the regulator was
also DC, it is not - 10 to 15vac.

In that case it is perfectly safe.
What current do you need?

Dave.
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Up to 1A, with an average of 500mA
 
On May 2, 5:48 pm, MousePad <non...@some.isp.com> wrote:
Phil Allison wrote:
"MousePad" <non...@some.isp.com
I know this is perhaps a stupid question, but how safe are these AC/AC
converters, such as those sold at Tricky Dicks?

** Please be more specific.

I for one have no idea what sort of products you are on about.

Give a link to one of them.

The one that I am looking at is a 12vac @ 1500mA.

URL:http://www.dse.com.au/cgi-bin/dse.storefront/481ac6a80117251c273fc0a8...
Click to expand...
If used as intended they are safe. Devices like these have to pass
various safety regulations to be sold in this country.

However, they (like anything mains powered) can become unsafe if you
do something silly with it.

Tell us what it is you want to do, and what your real concern is.

Dave.
 
MousePad wrote:
I know this is perhaps a stupid question, but how safe are these AC/AC
converters, such as those sold at Tricky Dicks?
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If I was to wire the AC adapter directly to the tracks, ignoring for the
moment any modifications required to accommodate, would this be asking
for trouble?

The obvious answer to me, is yes, but I would like a second opinion.
 
On Fri, 02 May 2008 08:16:15 GMT, MousePad <noname@some.isp.com> put
finger to keyboard and composed:

The one that I am looking at is a 12vac @ 1500mA.

URL:http://www.dse.com.au/cgi-bin/dse.storefront/481ac6a80117251c273fc0a87f9c06c2/Product/View/M9635


Wrong link:
http://www.dse.com.au/cgi-bin/dse.storefront/481accc202aa9eee2740c0a87f9c0751/Product/View/M9655

And it is only 500mA.

The link from the other post is for a 24vac @ 1500mA.
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IIUC those are dynamic links that are specific to your session. They
won't work for anyone else.

The following alternative links may or may not work all the time:

http://www.dse.com.au/cgi-bin/dse.storefront/en/product/M9635
http://www.dse.com.au/cgi-bin/dse.storefront/en/product/M9655

http://search.dse.com.au/search?sessionid=&w=m9635
http://search.dse.com.au/search?sessionid=&w=m9655

- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.
 
"MousePad"


If I was to wire the AC adapter directly to the tracks, ignoring for the
moment any modifications required to accommodate, would this be asking for
trouble?
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** With DC motors on the model trains how far do you think they will move ?

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm......



....... Phil
 
Phil Allison wrote:
"MousePad"


If I was to wire the AC adapter directly to the tracks, ignoring for the
moment any modifications required to accommodate, would this be asking for
trouble?


** With DC motors on the model trains how far do you think they will move ?
Click to expand...
Well, they would need modification to accommodate the AC.
 
"MousePad" <noname@some.isp.com> wrote in message
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MousePad wrote:
I know this is perhaps a stupid question, but how safe are these AC/AC
converters, such as those sold at Tricky Dicks?

If I was to wire the AC adapter directly to the tracks, ignoring for the
moment any modifications required to accommodate, would this be asking for
trouble?

The obvious answer to me, is yes, but I would like a second opinion.
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Of course yes. Train motors need DC.
Sounds like you already have the DC train controller, use it, your trains
won't get very far otherwise.

Dave.
 
"MousePad" <noname@some.isp.com> wrote in message
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David L. Jones wrote:
I would be using it for a speed regulator for a train set. I
incorrectly assumed that because the motors are DC, the supply for the
regulator was also DC, it is not - 10 to 15vac.

In that case it is perfectly safe.
What current do you need?

Dave.

Up to 1A, with an average of 500mA
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Then you should get a 1A plugpack.

Dave.
 
"MousePad"
I know this is perhaps a stupid question, but how safe are these AC/AC
converters, such as those sold at Tricky Dicks?
Click to expand...

** The correct terms are " AC plug pack " or AC external supply.

Luckily, the powers that rule us have backed down on their absurd scheme to
ban them from sale.

MEPS ( Minimum Energy Performance Standards ) rules will simply not apply
to them.



...... Phil
 
On May 3, 12:11 pm, MousePad <non...@some.isp.com> wrote:
Phil Allison wrote:
"MousePad"

If I was to wire the AC adapter directly to the tracks, ignoring for the
moment any modifications required to accommodate, would this be asking for
trouble?

** With DC motors on the model trains how far do you think they will move ?

Well, they would need modification to accommodate the AC.
Click to expand...
yes, a wonderful invention called a bridge rectifier.
 
On May 7, 10:59 pm, kreed <kenreed1...@gmail.com> wrote:
On May 3, 12:11 pm, MousePad <non...@some.isp.com> wrote:

Phil Allison wrote:
"MousePad"

If I was to wire the AC adapter directly to the tracks, ignoring for the
moment any modifications required to accommodate, would this be asking for
trouble?

** With DC motors on the model trains how far do you think they will move ?

Well, they would need modification to accommodate the AC.

yes, a wonderful invention called a bridge rectifier.
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I do hope the OP isn't serious.
Only a fool would modify their trains so they could run on AC tracks.

DCC is all the rage now.

Dave.
 
On Sat, 03 May 2008 02:11:32 +0000, MousePad wrote:


Well, they would need modification to accommodate the AC.
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And how do you intend to make them go forward and backwards?
Use something like an X10 system?


what problem are you really trying to solve?
 
On 8/05/2008 19:27 terryc wrote:
And how do you intend to make them go forward and backwards?
Use something like an X10 system?
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Some model trains do run on AC and are getting pretty high-tech
these days. Have a gander at
http://www.marklin.com/tech/digital1/components/6080.html
 
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