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boB

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On Fri, 1 May 2020 03:19:04 +0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:

Somebody here knows the differences.
Having used both, I think I prefer zoom now.

It's free to a point but as far as I've seen it works pretty darn well
!

There are other options out there too of course.

Jabber for one. Open source. Can't screen share though as far as I
know.
 
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Jeff Liebermann

Guest
On Fri, 1 May 2020 03:19:04 +0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:

>Somebody here knows the differences.

Which is better for doing what? I've been using both and each has
it's strong points and it's problems. I'm not going to do a bullet
point feature comparison for you when running Zoom or Skype and seeing
for yourself will probably take less time.
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_web_conferencing_software>

Since you're suppose to be a Linux supporter, you might want to look
at Jitsi (Open source, free, and runs on Windoze, Linux, MacOS, IOS
and Android.):
<https://jitsi.org>
<https://meet.jit.si>
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jitsi>
We're starting to use it for our local Linux user group. Very little
experience so far and no clue about potential performance issues.

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Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
 

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Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> wrote in
news:r8ggqb$v9c$3@gonzo.revmaps.no-ip.org:

On 2020-05-01, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org> wrote:
Somebody here knows the differences.

It depends which spies you want listening.
Well, that would have been nice to see at least a half definition of.

Oh... that's what you did. Well that == half assed.

Which is which and for which would have been nice.

This group is notorious for being more fucking vague than a fucking
politician... a fucking republitard politician at that.
 
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Jasen Betts

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On 2020-05-01, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org <DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org> wrote:
> Somebody here knows the differences.

It depends which spies you want listening.

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TTman

Guest
On 01/05/2020 04:19, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:
Somebody here knows the differences.
For a 1:1( or even 3:1) with friends, Skype. For business with pre
planned meetings, Zoom. I tried Zoom to talk to a friend. what a pain it
was.

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Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote in
news:1c9naftboh5usufrqqqj5p0n9cqqmi7p84@4ax.com:

On Fri, 1 May 2020 03:19:04 +0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:

Somebody here knows the differences.

Which is better for doing what? I've been using both and each has
it's strong points and it's problems. I'm not going to do a
bullet point feature comparison for you when running Zoom or Skype
and seeing for yourself will probably take less time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_web_conferencing_softw
are

Since you're suppose to be a Linux supporter, you might want to
look at Jitsi (Open source, free, and runs on Windoze, Linux,
MacOS, IOS and Android.):
https://jitsi.org
https://meet.jit.si
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jitsi
We're starting to use it for our local Linux user group. Very
little experience so far and no clue about potential performance
issues.
Thanks, Jeff.
 
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Jeff Liebermann

Guest
On Fri, 1 May 2020 08:35:14 +0100, TTman <kraken.sankey@gmail.com>
wrote:

On 01/05/2020 04:19, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:
Somebody here knows the differences.

For a 1:1( or even 3:1) with friends, Skype. For business with pre
planned meetings, Zoom. I tried Zoom to talk to a friend. what a pain it
was.
It's not that difficult to do 1 to 1 or and "instant meeting" with
Zoom.
1. Register with Zoom to get an account and password or login
with Google, SSO, or Farcebook.
2. Login to your Zoom account with a web browser at:
<https://zoom.us>
3. Select "Profile" from the menu.
4. The first item is "Personal Meeting ID".
5. Select "Show" (twice) to get the Personal Meeting ID number and
the URL to give others to connect to you directly or to setup "instant
meetings". Save both for future abuse.
6. If you plan to host a meeting, also grab the "Host Key" further
down the page.
7. Do not leak the URL or "host key" (password) to the GUM (great
unwashed masses) or you're likely to be "Zoom Bombed".
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoombombing>





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150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
 
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Joe Chisolm

Guest
On Fri, 01 May 2020 03:19:04 +0000, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno wrote:

> Somebody here knows the differences.

Cisco Webex I use it every day for work. They have free personal use
accounts.

www.webex.com

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Chisolm
Texas-American
 
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boB

Guest
On Fri, 1 May 2020 07:11:04 +0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:

Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote in
news:1c9naftboh5usufrqqqj5p0n9cqqmi7p84@4ax.com:

On Fri, 1 May 2020 03:19:04 +0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:

Somebody here knows the differences.

Which is better for doing what? I've been using both and each has
it's strong points and it's problems. I'm not going to do a
bullet point feature comparison for you when running Zoom or Skype
and seeing for yourself will probably take less time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_web_conferencing_softw
are

Since you're suppose to be a Linux supporter, you might want to
look at Jitsi (Open source, free, and runs on Windoze, Linux,
MacOS, IOS and Android.):
https://jitsi.org
https://meet.jit.si
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jitsi
We're starting to use it for our local Linux user group. Very
little experience so far and no clue about potential performance
issues.


Thanks, Jeff.

I was on a jitsi conference last Saturday using Jabber. It works
great !
It doesn't support screen sharing as of yet I don't think but that's
OK
 
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Joe Chisolm

Guest
On Fri, 01 May 2020 12:48:06 -0700, boB wrote:

On Fri, 1 May 2020 07:11:04 +0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:

Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> wrote in
news:1c9naftboh5usufrqqqj5p0n9cqqmi7p84@4ax.com:

On Fri, 1 May 2020 03:19:04 +0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:

Somebody here knows the differences.

Which is better for doing what? I've been using both and each has
it's strong points and it's problems. I'm not going to do a bullet
point feature comparison for you when running Zoom or Skype and seeing
for yourself will probably take less time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_web_conferencing_softw
are

Since you're suppose to be a Linux supporter, you might want to look
at Jitsi (Open source, free, and runs on Windoze, Linux, MacOS, IOS
and Android.):
https://jitsi.org
https://meet.jit.si
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jitsi
We're starting to use it for our local Linux user group. Very little
experience so far and no clue about potential performance issues.


Thanks, Jeff.



I was on a jitsi conference last Saturday using Jabber. It works great
!
It doesn't support screen sharing as of yet I don't think but that's OK
https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/how-to-livestream-a-conference-in-
just-under-a-week


--
Chisolm
Texas-American
 
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mpm

Guest
On Thursday, April 30, 2020 at 11:19:08 PM UTC-4, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
> Somebody here knows the differences.

I prefer GoToMeeting for the sole reason that is it already setup on my work computer, and the very few groups that I need to attend remotely use that platform.

Otherwise, for the types of meetings I'm usually involved in, all those fancy bells and whistles are pretty much useless. (And I'm sure GTM has them too.)

What truly annoys me is when Presenters are still fumbling with the technology when the actual meeting starts. I have walked out of some of those. If you're going to host a meeting, learn how to use the platform first, regardless of which one you pick! 20 people on the line waiting for a Presenter to get a clue is not an efficient use of manpower.
 
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Cursitor Doom

Guest
On Fri, 01 May 2020 15:28:47 -0700, mpm wrote:

On Thursday, April 30, 2020 at 11:19:08 PM UTC-4,
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Somebody here knows the differences.

I prefer GoToMeeting for the sole reason that is it already setup on my
work computer, and the very few groups that I need to attend remotely
use that platform.
I'll never use Skype again on principle, since they attempted to covertly
bar access to Linux users. Fuck 'em. Anyway, from what I gather, Zoom is
the hottest thing out there currently and what I would go with if I were
looking for a new video-calling service.
 
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John S

Guest
On 5/1/2020 5:50 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Fri, 01 May 2020 15:28:47 -0700, mpm wrote:

On Thursday, April 30, 2020 at 11:19:08 PM UTC-4,
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Somebody here knows the differences.

I prefer GoToMeeting for the sole reason that is it already setup on my
work computer, and the very few groups that I need to attend remotely
use that platform.

I'll never use Skype again on principle, since they attempted to covertly
bar access to Linux users. Fuck 'em. Anyway, from what I gather, Zoom is
the hottest thing out there currently and what I would go with if I were
looking for a new video-calling service.
Well, yes, but I'm gonna make chili tonight and have it with crackers.
Hungry? It will feed two. Come on by.
 
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RosemontCrest

Guest
On 5/1/2020 3:50 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Fri, 01 May 2020 15:28:47 -0700, mpm wrote:

On Thursday, April 30, 2020 at 11:19:08 PM UTC-4,
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Somebody here knows the differences.

I prefer GoToMeeting for the sole reason that is it already setup on my
work computer, and the very few groups that I need to attend remotely
use that platform.

I'll never use Skype again on principle, since they attempted to covertly
bar access to Linux users. Fuck 'em. Anyway, from what I gather, Zoom is
the hottest thing out there currently and what I would go with if I were
looking for a new video-calling service.
So, you would use Zoom simply because it is "the hottest thing out
there." Is that the only criterion you use when selecting products?
 
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Ricky C

Guest
On Friday, May 1, 2020 at 8:39:48 PM UTC-4, RosemontCrest wrote:
On 5/1/2020 3:50 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Fri, 01 May 2020 15:28:47 -0700, mpm wrote:

On Thursday, April 30, 2020 at 11:19:08 PM UTC-4,
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Somebody here knows the differences.

I prefer GoToMeeting for the sole reason that is it already setup on my
work computer, and the very few groups that I need to attend remotely
use that platform.

I'll never use Skype again on principle, since they attempted to covertly
bar access to Linux users. Fuck 'em. Anyway, from what I gather, Zoom is
the hottest thing out there currently and what I would go with if I were
looking for a new video-calling service.

So, you would use Zoom simply because it is "the hottest thing out
there." Is that the only criterion you use when selecting products?
We used Zoom with a meetup group to play online trivia. The video of the trivia guy was sent to all of us and we had a little window to share our images. It worked rather poorly, but it's hard to say why. The video was so poor resolution that I couldn't read the text in the video which was not small. When I pulled up the video in another windows I found there was a big time lag, four seconds or more for that video to appear on the Zoom screen.. Conversation was ridiculously difficult with voices from everyone in the group and the video all active at once and with echos. Everyone talking at once is not Zoom's fault, but what's up with the bad telephone hybrid like echos?

It was so bad I don't think I'm going to participate anymore.

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RosemontCrest

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On 5/1/2020 5:59 PM, Ricky C wrote:
On Friday, May 1, 2020 at 8:39:48 PM UTC-4, RosemontCrest wrote:
On 5/1/2020 3:50 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Fri, 01 May 2020 15:28:47 -0700, mpm wrote:

On Thursday, April 30, 2020 at 11:19:08 PM UTC-4,
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Somebody here knows the differences.

I prefer GoToMeeting for the sole reason that is it already setup on my
work computer, and the very few groups that I need to attend remotely
use that platform.

I'll never use Skype again on principle, since they attempted to covertly
bar access to Linux users. Fuck 'em. Anyway, from what I gather, Zoom is
the hottest thing out there currently and what I would go with if I were
looking for a new video-calling service.

So, you would use Zoom simply because it is "the hottest thing out
there." Is that the only criterion you use when selecting products?

We used Zoom with a meetup group to play online trivia. The video of the trivia guy was sent to all of us and we had a little window to share our images. It worked rather poorly, but it's hard to say why. The video was so poor resolution that I couldn't read the text in the video which was not small. When I pulled up the video in another windows I found there was a big time lag, four seconds or more for that video to appear on the Zoom screen. Conversation was ridiculously difficult with voices from everyone in the group and the video all active at once and with echos. Everyone talking at once is not Zoom's fault, but what's up with the bad telephone hybrid like echos?

It was so bad I don't think I'm going to participate anymore.
Thank you. Having not used it, I wonder why Zoom is so popular now, and
how it could possibly be any better than what was available before. You
provide a more reasoned response than it's "the hottest thing out there."
 
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Dan Purgert

Guest
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Ricky C wrote:
Everyone talking at once is not Zoom's fault, but what's up with
the bad telephone hybrid like echos?
Laptops with integrated microphones. Mic picks up the other person
talking, and feeds it back into the meeting.

The person (or persons) responsible needs to turn down the sensitivity
on the mic, or their speaker volume. Or if there's a Push-to-talk
feature, use that.


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Ricky C

Guest
On Friday, May 1, 2020 at 9:25:02 PM UTC-4, RosemontCrest wrote:
On 5/1/2020 5:59 PM, Ricky C wrote:
On Friday, May 1, 2020 at 8:39:48 PM UTC-4, RosemontCrest wrote:
On 5/1/2020 3:50 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:
On Fri, 01 May 2020 15:28:47 -0700, mpm wrote:

On Thursday, April 30, 2020 at 11:19:08 PM UTC-4,
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Somebody here knows the differences.

I prefer GoToMeeting for the sole reason that is it already setup on my
work computer, and the very few groups that I need to attend remotely
use that platform.

I'll never use Skype again on principle, since they attempted to covertly
bar access to Linux users. Fuck 'em. Anyway, from what I gather, Zoom is
the hottest thing out there currently and what I would go with if I were
looking for a new video-calling service.

So, you would use Zoom simply because it is "the hottest thing out
there." Is that the only criterion you use when selecting products?

We used Zoom with a meetup group to play online trivia. The video of the trivia guy was sent to all of us and we had a little window to share our images. It worked rather poorly, but it's hard to say why. The video was so poor resolution that I couldn't read the text in the video which was not small. When I pulled up the video in another windows I found there was a big time lag, four seconds or more for that video to appear on the Zoom screen. Conversation was ridiculously difficult with voices from everyone in the group and the video all active at once and with echos. Everyone talking at once is not Zoom's fault, but what's up with the bad telephone hybrid like echos?

It was so bad I don't think I'm going to participate anymore.

Thank you. Having not used it, I wonder why Zoom is so popular now, and
how it could possibly be any better than what was available before. You
provide a more reasoned response than it's "the hottest thing out there."
Please don't think my experience is typical. I want to make it clear that I was only a user and didn't set it up so I have no idea what was wrong or what was even happening. It's a crowd that does things like this now that we are all shut-ins and they have their own way of doing things.

Sunday we have a meeting to discuss the future direction of the group and I am dreading it a bit. But at least that isn't a bunch of people playing trivia so they shouldn't be talking over one another.

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mpm

Guest
On Friday, May 1, 2020 at 9:45:51 PM UTC-4, Ricky C wrote:
The provider is small and there's not much he can do about it being overloaded, it seems. In fact, there are times when even before the shut in that the service would just go down and he'd have a hard time getting it back up.
First name basis, huh? :)
Reminds me of the Three Rivers Telephone Cooperative. (Montana).

Not exactly a happy memory.
 
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