What if the Nazis had kindness?

[Jim Ward]

If the Nazis had kindness, they would've invented the KareBear.

 

[Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz]

In <41ed5348.1504015@news.ecn.ab.ca>, on 01/18/2005
at 06:20 PM, jsavard@excxn.aNOSPAMb.cdn.invalid (John Savard) said:

Well, the Kaiser went and started a war against the rest of Europe
without persecuting Jews.

I'd hardly call WW I kind, nor is it clear that he started it. Wasn't
the root cause a series of mutual-defense treaties that left no room
for maneuver? "Diplomacy is too important to be left to the
diplomats."

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Reg Edwards wrote:

Hitler had failed to take Moscow by the time the Japanese hit
Pearl
Harbour, and that is the point where he'd lost the war - American
contributions to the Russian war effort were insignificant, and
Stalin
would have gone on to defeat Germany without U.S. support.

=====================================

You are correct about insignificant USA contributions to the war in
Europe.

<snip>

But the real turning point of the war was not Moscow or even
Stalingrad. It
was the Battle of Kursk.

The Russian victory at Kursk made it obvious that Hilter had lost the
war. His failure to capture Moscow in 1941 probably represents the
point where he'd actually lost his last chance to be able to beat the
Russians - capturing Moscow in 1941 might have disrupted the Russian
administrative system - and consquently Russian production - enough to
give him a war-winning advantage, but from 1941 on the Russians were
producing more military equipment than the Germans, and by a big enough
margin to outweigh any differences in the effectiveness of the
equipment (and the T-34 tank was better than anything the Germans had
when they first ran into it, to such an extent that they considered
building their own copy, until they realised that they didn't have
access to all the alloys used in its construction).
-------
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

 

[robert j. kolker]

vonroach wrote:

On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 18:44:38 +0000, Dirk Bruere at Neopax
dirk@neopax.com> wrote:


mmeron@cars3.uchicago.edu wrote:
..


You guys kidding? A `kind' German? That's an oxymoron.

There were actually 11 kind and decent Germans in Nazi Germany during
the war. I don't know if any of them survived, however.

Bob Kolker

 

[vonroach]

On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 18:44:38 +0000, Dirk Bruere at Neopax
<dirk@neopax.com> wrote:

mmeron@cars3.uchicago.edu wrote:
..

You guys kidding? A `kind' German? That's an oxymoron.

 

[John Woodgate]

I read in sci.electronics.design that robert j. kolker
<nowhere@nowhere.net> wrote (in <365k5jF4to0jtU2@individual.net&gt about
'What if the Nazis had kindness?', on Sun, 30 Jan 2005:

vonroach wrote:

On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 18:44:38 +0000, Dirk Bruere at Neopax
dirk@neopax.com> wrote:


mmeron@cars3.uchicago.edu wrote:
..


You guys kidding? A `kind' German? That's an oxymoron.

There were actually 11 kind and decent Germans in Nazi Germany during
the war. I don't know if any of them survived, however.

They did; at least I have met 11 who survived. OTOH, I've met two or

three who were born after 1945 but were clearly born wearing jackboots.
I've met two Brits, and one US citizen (not counting Usenet 'meets'), of
a similar disposition. But then I haven't met so many US citizens.(;-)
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