We all love Carbon, we all love CO2...

[a a]

-CO2 is welcome
-CO2 is Plant Food
-Plants are Animal Food
-Animals are Human Food

-More CO2 more Human Food
-to end the world hunger

 

[whit3rd]

On Tuesday, June 21, 2022 at 10:04:41 AM UTC-7, a a wrote:

-CO2 is welcome
-CO2 is Plant Food
-Plants are Animal Food
-Animals are Human Food

-More CO2 more Human Food
-to end the world hunger

Steer manure is Plant Food.
a a is donating bullshit, but the plants don\'t benefit from that.
Similar label, different product. Bullshit, for example, is not welcome.

 

[John Doe]

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-CO2 is welcome
-CO2 is Plant Food
-Plants are Animal Food
-Animals are Human Food

-More CO2 more Human Food
-to end the world hunger

 

[a a]

On Tuesday, 21 June 2022 at 19:55:07 UTC+2, whit3rd wrote:

On Tuesday, June 21, 2022 at 10:04:41 AM UTC-7, a a wrote:
-CO2 is welcome
-CO2 is Plant Food
-Plants are Animal Food
-Animals are Human Food

-More CO2 more Human Food
-to end the world hunger
Steer manure is Plant Food.
a a is donating bullshit, but the plants don\'t benefit from that.
Similar label, different product. Bullshit, for example, is not welcome.

Soil carbon is the solid carbon stored in global soils. This includes both soil organic matter and inorganic carbon as carbonate minerals.[1] Soil carbon is a carbon sink in regard to the global carbon cycle, playing a role in biogeochemistry, climate change mitigation, and constructing global climate models.[2]
Contents

1 Overview
2 Global carbon cycle
3 Organic carbon
3.1 Soil health
3.2 Losses
3.3 Managing soil carbon
3.3.1 Data available on soil organic carbon
3.3.1.1 Europe
3.3.2 Managing for catchment health
3.4 Forest soils
4 See also
5 References

Overview
Part of a series on the
Carbon cycle
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By regions

Terrestrial Marine Atmospheric Deep carbon Soil Permafrost Boreal forest Geochemistry

Carbon dioxide
Forms of carbon
Metabolic pathways
Carbon respiration
Carbon pumps
Carbon sequestration
Methane
Biogeochemical
Other

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Soil carbon is present in two forms: inorganic and organic. Soil inorganic carbon consists of mineral forms of carbon, either from weathering of parent material, or from reaction of soil minerals with atmospheric CO2. Carbonate minerals are the dominant form of soil carbon in desert climates. Soil organic carbon is present as soil organic matter. It includes relatively available carbon as fresh plant remains and relatively inert carbon in materials derived from plant remains: humus and charcoal.[3]
Global carbon cycle
See also: Carbon cycle

Although exact quantities are difficult to measure, human activities have caused substantial losses of soil organic carbon.[4] Of the 2,700 Gt of carbon stored in soils worldwide, 1550 GtC is organic and 950 GtC is inorganic carbon, which is approximately three times greater than the current atmospheric carbon and 240 times higher compared with the current annual fossil fuel emission.[5] The balance of soil carbon is held in peat and wetlands (150 GtC), and in plant litter at the soil surface (50 GtC). This compares to 780 GtC in the atmosphere, and 600 GtC in all living organisms. The oceanic pool of carbon accounts for 38,200 GtC.

About 60 GtC/yr accumulates in the soil. This 60 GtC/yr is the balance of 120 GtC/yr contracted from the atmosphere by terrestrial plant photosynthesis reduced by 60 GtC/yr of plant respiration. An equivalent 60 GtC/yr is respired from soil, joining the 60G tC/yr plant respiration to return to the atmosphere.[6][7]
Organic carbon
Soil carbon cycle through the microbial loop
Carbon dioxide in the atmosphere is fixed by plants (or autotrophic microorganisms) and added to soil through processes such as (1) root exudation of low-molecular weight simple carbon compounds, or deposition of leaf and root litter leading to accumulation of complex plant polysaccharides. (2) Through these processes, carbon is made bioavailable to the microbial metabolic \"factory\" and subsequently is either (3) respired to the atmosphere or (4) enters the stable carbon pool as microbial necromass. The exact balance of carbon efflux versus persistence is a function of several factors, including aboveground plant community composition and root exudate profiles, environmental variables, and collective microbial phenotypes (i.e., the metaphenome).[8][9]
Main article: Soil organic matter

Soil organic carbon is divided between living soil biota and dead biotic material derived from biomass. Together these comprise the soil food web, with the living component sustained by the biotic material component. Soil biota includes earthworms, nematodes, protozoa, fungi, bacteria and different arthropods.

Detritus resulting from plant senescence is the major source of soil organic carbon. Plant materials, with cell walls high in cellulose and lignin, are decomposed and the not-respired carbon is retained as humus. Cellulose and starches readily degrade, resulting in short residence times. More persistent forms of organic C include lignin, humus, organic matter encapsulated in soil aggregates, and charcoal. These resist alteration and have long residence times.

Soil organic carbon tends to be concentrated in the topsoil. Topsoil ranges from 0.5% to 3.0% organic carbon for most upland soils. Soils with less than 0.5% organic C are mostly limited to desert areas. Soils containing greater than 12–18% organic carbon are generally classified as organic soils. High levels of organic C develop in soils supporting wetland ecology, flood deposition, fire ecology, and human activity.

Fire derived forms of carbon are present in most soils as unweathered charcoal and weathered black carbon.[10][11] Soil organic carbon is typically 5–50% derived from char,[12] with levels above 50% encountered in mollisol, chernozem, and terra preta soils.[13]

Root exudates are another source of soil carbon.[14] 5–20% of the total plant carbon fixed during photosynthesis is supplied as root exudates in support of rhizospheric mutualistic biota.[15][16] Microbial populations are typically higher in the rhizosphere than in adjacent bulk soil.
Soil health
Main article: Soil health

Organic carbon is vital to soil capacity to provide edaphic ecosystem services. The condition of this capacity is termed soil health, a term that communicates the value of understanding soil as a living system as opposed to an abiotic component. Specific carbon related benchmarks used to evaluate soil health include CO2 release, humus levels, and microbial metabolic activity.
Losses

The exchange of carbon between soils and the atmosphere is a significant part of the world carbon cycle.[17] Carbon, as it relates to the organic matter of soils, is a major component of soil and catchment health. Several factors affect the variation that exists in soil organic matter and soil carbon; the most significant has, in contemporary times, been the influence of humans and agricultural systems.

Although exact quantities are difficult to measure, human activities have caused massive losses of soil organic carbon.[4] First was the use of fire, which removes soil cover and leads to immediate and continuing losses of soil organic carbon. Tillage and drainage both expose soil organic matter to oxygen and oxidation. In the Netherlands, East Anglia, Florida, and the California Delta, subsidence of peat lands from oxidation has been severe as a result of tillage and drainage. Grazing management that exposes soil (through either excessive or insufficient recovery periods) can also cause losses of soil organic carbon.
See also: Soil carbon feedback
Managing soil carbon

Natural variations in soil carbon occur as a result of climate, organisms, parent material, time, and relief.[18] The greatest contemporary influence has been that of humans; for example, carbon in Australian agricultural soils may historically have been twice the present range that is typically from 1.6 to 4.6 per cent.[19]

It has long been encouraged that farmers adjust practices to maintain or increase the organic component in the soil. On one hand, practices that hasten oxidation of carbon (such as burning crop stubbles or over-cultivation) are discouraged; on the other hand, incorporation of organic material (such as in manuring) has been encouraged. Increasing soil carbon is not a straightforward matter; it is made complex by the relative activity of soil biota, which can consume and release carbon and are made more active by the addition of nitrogen fertilizers.[18]
Data available on soil organic carbon
A portable soil respiration system measuring soil CO2 flux
Europe

The most homogeneous and comprehensive data on the organic carbon/matter content of European soils remain those that can be extracted and/or derived from the European Soil Database in combination with associated databases on land cover, climate, and topography. The modelled data refer to carbon content (%) in the surface horizon of soils in Europe. In an inventory on available national datasets, seven member states of the European Union have available datasets on organic carbon. In the article \"Estimating soil organic carbon in Europe based on data collected through a European network\" (Ecological Indicators 24,[20] pp. 439–450), a comparison of national data with modelled data is performed. The LUCAS soil organic carbon data are measured surveyed points and the aggregated results[21] at regional level show important findings. Finally, a new proposed model for estimation of soil organic carbon in agricultural soils has estimated current top SOC stock of 17.63 Gt[22] in EU agricultural soils. This modelling framework has been updated by integrating the soil erosion component to estimate the lateral carbon fluxes.[23]
Managing for catchment health
Part of a series on
Biogeochemical cycles
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Water cycle
Carbon cycle

Global
atmospheric terrestrial oceanic Sequestration
carbon sink deep carbon cycle soil carbon mycorrhizal fungi Boreal forests

Nutrient cycle
Rock cycle
Marine cycle
Methane cycle
Other cycles
Related topics
Research groups

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Much of the contemporary literature on soil carbon relates to its role, or potential, as an atmospheric carbon sink to offset climate change. Despite this emphasis, a much wider range of soil and catchment health aspects are improved as soil carbon is increased. These benefits are difficult to quantify, due to the complexity of natural resource systems and the interpretation of what constitutes soil health; nonetheless, several benefits are proposed in the following points:

Reduced erosion, sedimentation: increased soil aggregate stability means greater resistance to erosion; mass movement is less likely when soils are able to retain structural strength under greater moisture levels.
Greater productivity: healthier and more productive soils can contribute to positive socio-economic circumstances.
Cleaner waterways, nutrients and turbidity: nutrients and sediment tend to be retained by the soil rather than leach or wash off, and are so kept from waterways.
Water balance: greater soil water holding capacity reduces overland flow and recharge to groundwater; the water saved and held by the soil remains available for use by plants.
Climate change: Soils have the ability to retain carbon that may otherwise exist as atmospheric CO2 and contribute to global warming.
Greater biodiversity: soil organic matter contributes to the health of soil flora and, accordingly, the natural links with biodiversity in the greater biosphere.

Forest soils

Forest soils constitute a large pool of carbon. Anthropogenic activities such as deforestation cause releases of carbon from this pool, which may significantly increase the concentration of greenhouse gas (GHG) in the atmosphere.[24] Under the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC), countries must estimate and report GHG emissions and removals, including changes in carbon stocks in all five pools (above- and below-ground biomass, dead wood, litter, and soil carbon) and associated emissions and removals from land use, land-use change and forestry activities, according to the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change\'s good practice guidance.[25][26] Tropical deforestation represents nearly 25 percent of total anthropogenic GHG emissions worldwide.[27] Deforestation, forest degradation, and changes in land management practices can cause releases of carbon from soil to the atmosphere. For these reasons, reliable estimates of soil organic carbon stock and stock changes are needed for Reducing emissions from deforestation and forest degradation and GHG reporting under the UNFCCC.

The government of Tanzania—together with the Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations[28] and the financial support of the government of Finland—have implemented a forest soil carbon monitoring program[29] to estimate soil carbon stock, using both survey and modelling-based methods.

West Africa has experienced significant loss of forest that contains high levels of soil organic carbon.[30][31] This is mostly due to expansion of small scale, non-mechanized agriculture using burning as a form of land clearance [32]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soil_carbon#:~:text=The%20balance%20of%20soil%20carbon%20is%20held%20in,oceanic%20pool%20of%20carbon%20accounts%20for%2038%2C200%20GtC.


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How important is plant carbon (C) content?
the Creative Commons Attribution 4.0 License. Abstract. Plant carbon (C) content is one of the most important plant traits and is critical to the assessment of global C cycle and ecological stoichiometry; however, the global variations in plant C content remain poorly understood.

BG - Variations and determinants of carbon content in plants: a global
bg.copernicus.org/articles/15/693/2018/

 

[Edward Hernandez]

In message-id <t6nt3e$7bp$3@dont-email.me>
(http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=165357273000) posted Thu, 26 May 2022
12:50:54 -0000 (UTC) John Dope stated:

Always Wrong, the utterly foulmouthed group idiot, adding absolutely
NOTHING but insults to this thread, as usual...

Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Dope\'s post ratio
to USENET (**) has been 62.4% of its posts contributing \"nothing except
insults\" to USENET.

** Since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) John Dope has posted at
least 2046 articles to USENET. Of which 173 have been pure insults and
1104 have been John Dope \"troll format\" postings.

The John Dope troll stated the following in message-id
<sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

> The troll doesn\'t even know how to format a USENET post...

And the John Dope troll stated the following in message-id
<sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
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CLUELESS...

And yet, the clueless John Dope troll has itself posted yet another
incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Tue, 21 Jun 2022 20:24:51 GMT in
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5UBj88A/pf6m

 

[John Doe]

Eddie, the Astraweb nym-shifting stalker is flagging off-topic posts
with its forgery of my ID, then replies to its own forgery. Strange but true.

Eddie has never posted anything NORMAL except when it got a spanking...

https://groups.google.com/g/sci.electronics.repair/c/MesPLcGU4BE

See also...
Bertrand Sindri <bertrand.sindri yahoo.com>
John Doe <always.look message.header> (Astraweb, Aioe.org)
Peter Weiner <dtgamer99 gmail.com>
Edward H. <dtgamer99 gmail.com>
Edward Hernandez <dtgamer99 gmail.com>

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-CO2 is welcome
-CO2 is Plant Food
-Plants are Animal Food
-Animals are Human Food

-More CO2 more Human Food
-to end the world hunger

 

[Edward Hernandez]

In message-id <t6nt3e$7bp$3@dont-email.me>
(http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=165357273000) posted Thu, 26 May 2022
12:50:54 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe stated:

Always Wrong, the utterly foulmouthed group idiot, adding absolutely
NOTHING but insults to this thread, as usual...

Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe\'s post ratio
to USENET (**) has been 62.7% of its posts contributing \"nothing except
insults\" to USENET.

** Since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe has posted at
least 2072 articles to USENET. Of which 173 have been pure insults and
1127 have been Troll Doe \"troll format\" postings.

The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

> The troll doesn\'t even know how to format a USENET post...

And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
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CLUELESS...

And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has itself posted yet another
incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Tue, 21 Jun 2022 23:23:32 -0000
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[a a]

On Wednesday, 22 June 2022 at 01:26:05 UTC+2, Edward Hernandez wrote:

In message-id <t6nt3e$7bp$3...@dont-email.me
(http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=165357273000) posted Thu, 26 May 2022
12:50:54 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe stated:
Always Wrong, the utterly foulmouthed group idiot, adding absolutely
NOTHING but insults to this thread, as usual...
Yet, since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe\'s post ratio
to USENET (**) has been 62.7% of its posts contributing \"nothing except
insults\" to USENET.

** Since Wed, 5 Jan 2022 04:10:38 -0000 (UTC) Troll Doe has posted at
least 2072 articles to USENET. Of which 173 have been pure insults and
1127 have been Troll Doe \"troll format\" postings.

The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
sdhn7c$pkp$4...@dont-email.me>:

The troll doesn\'t even know how to format a USENET post...
And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
sg3kr7$qt5$1...@dont-email.me>:

The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
CLUELESS...
And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has itself posted yet another
incorrectly formatted USENET posting on Tue, 21 Jun 2022 23:23:32 -0000
(UTC) in message-id <t8tjtj$s6u$1...@dont-email.me>.
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Js7rfzFJGYk+
Nasa solar

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https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/sdo/main/index.html

https://science.gsfc.nasa.gov/heliophysics/solar/

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[server]

On Tue, 21 Jun 2022 10:55:00 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com>
wrote:

On Tuesday, June 21, 2022 at 10:04:41 AM UTC-7, a a wrote:
-CO2 is welcome
-CO2 is Plant Food
-Plants are Animal Food
-Animals are Human Food

-More CO2 more Human Food
-to end the world hunger

Steer manure is Plant Food.
a a is donating bullshit, but the plants don\'t benefit from that.
Similar label, different product. Bullshit, for example, is not welcome.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/03/05/sri-lanka-organic-farming-crisis/

We need synthetic ammonia-based fertilizers. Human and animal waste
aren\'t enough to sustain our population.



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Anybody can count to one.

- Robert Widlar

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Wednesday, June 22, 2022 at 3:46:28 PM UTC+2, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

On Tue, 21 Jun 2022 10:55:00 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Tuesday, June 21, 2022 at 10:04:41 AM UTC-7, a a wrote:
-CO2 is welcome
-CO2 is Plant Food
-Plants are Animal Food
-Animals are Human Food

-More CO2 more Human Food
-to end the world hunger

Steer manure is Plant Food.
a a is donating bullshit, but the plants don\'t benefit from that.
Similar label, different product. Bullshit, for example, is not welcome.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/03/05/sri-lanka-organic-farming-crisis/

We need synthetic ammonia-based fertilizers. Human and animal waste
aren\'t enough to sustain our population.

And John Larkin is silly enough to think that you can\'t get them without burning fossil carbon.

Why he imagines that nitrogen fixing bacteria can\'t provide enough ammonia based fertiliser isn\'t obvious - he probably doesn\'t know that they exist.

Or, more likely, Anthony Watts didn\'t bother to mention in whatever propaganda spiel John Larkin is recycling here.

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[a a]

On Wednesday, 22 June 2022 at 17:18:37 UTC+2, bill....@ieee.org wrote:

On Wednesday, June 22, 2022 at 3:46:28 PM UTC+2, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Tue, 21 Jun 2022 10:55:00 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Tuesday, June 21, 2022 at 10:04:41 AM UTC-7, a a wrote:
-CO2 is welcome
-CO2 is Plant Food
-Plants are Animal Food
-Animals are Human Food

-More CO2 more Human Food
-to end the world hunger

Steer manure is Plant Food.
a a is donating bullshit, but the plants don\'t benefit from that.
Similar label, different product. Bullshit, for example, is not welcome.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/03/05/sri-lanka-organic-farming-crisis/

We need synthetic ammonia-based fertilizers. Human and animal waste
aren\'t enough to sustain our population.
And John Larkin is silly enough to think that you can\'t get them without burning fossil carbon.

Why he imagines that nitrogen fixing bacteria can\'t provide enough ammonia based fertiliser isn\'t obvious - he probably doesn\'t know that they exist..

Or, more likely, Anthony Watts didn\'t bother to mention in whatever propaganda spiel John Larkin is recycling here.

--
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Thank you low-science Australia

..We all love Carbon, we all love CO2

..-CO2 is welcome
..-CO2 is Plant Food
..-Plants are Animal Food
..-Animals are Human Food

..-More CO2 more Human Food
..-to end the world hunger

https://climate.nasa.gov/faq/14/is-the-sun-causing-global-warming/

The Sun can influence Earth’s climate. The Sun is a giver of life; it helps keep the planet warm enough for us to survive. We know subtle changes in Earth’s orbit around the Sun are responsible for the comings and goings of the ice ages.

Temperature vs Solar Activity Chart

https://climate.nasa.gov/internal_resources/2167/

removing 11-year averages from the chart we can clearly discover, what is called

Fluctuations in solar activity clock Climate Changes on the Earth

Some claim, climate is not weather and weather is not climate.
Right.

But, we humans, can easily sense and detect Climate Changes during our life span,
so called Climate Changes sensed by the Peers,
as parts of long-term climate change trends.

Since life of humans is limited to 100 years,
we are free to call 10- 20- 30- 50-year, short term Climate Changes as Climate Changes

But if you object to or claim the opposite, I can invent another nice term to describe short-term Climate Changes and suggest UN agencies, NASA to implement it into daily Climate Change practice

BTW
since Global Warming is fake,
NASA should remove Global Warming fake from every material published on the Internet


...We all love Carbon, we all love CO2

 

[whit3rd]

On Wednesday, June 22, 2022 at 6:46:28 AM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

On Tue, 21 Jun 2022 10:55:00 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com

wrote:
On Tuesday, June 21, 2022 at 10:04:41 AM UTC-7, a a wrote:
-CO2 is welcome
-CO2 is Plant Food

... and more drivel...

Steer manure is Plant Food.
a a is donating bullshit, but the plants don\'t benefit from that.

Similar label, different product. Bullshit, for example, is not welcome.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/03/05/sri-lanka-organic-farming-crisis/

We need synthetic ammonia-based fertilizers. Human and animal waste
aren\'t enough to sustain our population.

So, that does indicate that central planning of agriculture can be
a failure. There\'s more than one way to grow crops, but lots of
ways to fail at it - in this case, by being noncompetitive for export.

Synthetic nitrates (Bosch process) are good for weapons use, but for
fertilizers we need other chemical components (phosphates, even some
traces of sulfur and zinc).
Some forest research has shown that salmon swimming upriver, and being
munched by bears, is a major nitrate source for great forests.
Fish fertilizer is less wasteful than to apply soluble compounds that wash away annually,
as a fertilization strategy; certainly our ancestors got it to work.

Overfertilization of fields and the nitrates in rivers and streams is
what did in the oysters in Chesapeake Bay for a few decades.

Organic, no-till, and do-nothing agriculture are intended as
improvements, and will win sometimes. Let the trials proceed.

 

[whit3rd]

On Wednesday, June 22, 2022 at 9:37:29 AM UTC-7, a a wrote:

On Wednesday, 22 June 2022 at 17:18:37 UTC+2, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Wednesday, June 22, 2022 at 3:46:28 PM UTC+2, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

We need synthetic ammonia-based fertilizers. Human and animal waste
aren\'t enough to sustain our population.

And John Larkin is silly enough to think that you can\'t get them without burning fossil carbon.

Why he imagines that nitrogen fixing bacteria can\'t provide enough ammonia based fertiliser isn\'t obvious - he probably doesn\'t know that they exist.

Or, more likely, Anthony Watts didn\'t bother to mention in whatever propaganda spiel John Larkin is recycling here.

Thank you low-science Australia

.We all love Carbon, we all love CO2

That \'a a\' entity isn\'t human. It\'s a travesty generator, but where did it
get its training? Some of it, from John Larkin?

 

[a a]

On Wednesday, 22 June 2022 at 19:04:42 UTC+2, whit3rd wrote:

On Wednesday, June 22, 2022 at 9:37:29 AM UTC-7, a a wrote:
On Wednesday, 22 June 2022 at 17:18:37 UTC+2, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Wednesday, June 22, 2022 at 3:46:28 PM UTC+2, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

We need synthetic ammonia-based fertilizers. Human and animal waste
aren\'t enough to sustain our population.

And John Larkin is silly enough to think that you can\'t get them without burning fossil carbon.

Why he imagines that nitrogen fixing bacteria can\'t provide enough ammonia based fertiliser isn\'t obvious - he probably doesn\'t know that they exist.

Or, more likely, Anthony Watts didn\'t bother to mention in whatever propaganda spiel John Larkin is recycling here.
Thank you low-science Australia

.We all love Carbon, we all love CO2
That \'a a\' entity isn\'t human. It\'s a travesty generator, but where did it
get its training? Some of it, from John Larkin?

thank you
! We all love Carbon, we all love CO2

https://climate.nasa.gov/internal_resources/2167/

How fluctuactions in solar activity clock Climate Changes on the Earth

watch yearly charts

 

[a a]

On Thursday, 23 June 2022 at 15:07:38 UTC+2, bill....@ieee.org wrote:

On Wednesday, June 22, 2022 at 7:10:44 PM UTC+2, a a wrote:
On Wednesday, 22 June 2022 at 19:04:42 UTC+2, whit3rd wrote:
On Wednesday, June 22, 2022 at 9:37:29 AM UTC-7, a a wrote:
On Wednesday, 22 June 2022 at 17:18:37 UTC+2, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Wednesday, June 22, 2022 at 3:46:28 PM UTC+2, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

We need synthetic ammonia-based fertilizers. Human and animal waste
aren\'t enough to sustain our population.

And John Larkin is silly enough to think that you can\'t get them without burning fossil carbon.

Why he imagines that nitrogen fixing bacteria can\'t provide enough ammonia based fertiliser isn\'t obvious - he probably doesn\'t know that they exist.

Or, more likely, Anthony Watts didn\'t bother to mention in whatever propaganda spiel John Larkin is recycling here.

Thank you low-science Australia

.We all love Carbon, we all love CO2

That \'a a\' entity isn\'t human. It\'s a travesty generator, but where did it

get its training? Some of it, from John Larkin?

thank you

! We all love Carbon, we all love CO2
Only the extra-gullible twits.

https://climate.nasa.gov/internal_resources/2167/

How fluctuations in solar activity clock Climate Changes on the Earth

watch yearly charts

The chart runs from 1880 to 2020. The two curves sort of line up until 1980, then hare off in opposite directions.

The Antarctic ice core data runs back about 800,000 years

https://www.bas.ac.uk/data/our-data/publication/ice-cores-and-climate-change/

Please explain how fluctuations in solar activity could explain the ice-age inter-glacial alternation.

Show your working.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

1. Sort-Term Climate Changes(SM), sensed by humans, let us study one-year Climate Changes
so STCC(SM) term is smart and clear for humans

2.Fluctuations in solar activity clock Climate Changes on the Earth
source: https://climate.nasa.gov/internal_resources/2167/
just remove 11-year average lines from the above chart to make things clear

3. -\"\"\"The two curves sort of line up until 1980, then hare off in opposite directions.

It doesn\'t matter, since what matters, either curve cycles and fluctuations in solar activity clock Short-Term Climate Changes on the Earth

4. ==https://www.bas.ac.uk/data/our-data/publication/ice-cores-and-climate-change/

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[Anthony William Sloman]

On Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 7:19:07 PM UTC+2, a a wrote:

On Thursday, 23 June 2022 at 15:07:38 UTC+2, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Wednesday, June 22, 2022 at 7:10:44 PM UTC+2, a a wrote:
On Wednesday, 22 June 2022 at 19:04:42 UTC+2, whit3rd wrote:
On Wednesday, June 22, 2022 at 9:37:29 AM UTC-7, a a wrote:
On Wednesday, 22 June 2022 at 17:18:37 UTC+2, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Wednesday, June 22, 2022 at 3:46:28 PM UTC+2, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

We need synthetic ammonia-based fertilizers. Human and animal waste
aren\'t enough to sustain our population.

And John Larkin is silly enough to think that you can\'t get them without burning fossil carbon.

Why he imagines that nitrogen fixing bacteria can\'t provide enough ammonia based fertiliser isn\'t obvious - he probably doesn\'t know that they exist.

Or, more likely, Anthony Watts didn\'t bother to mention in whatever propaganda spiel John Larkin is recycling here.

Thank you low-science Australia

.We all love Carbon, we all love CO2

That \'a a\' entity isn\'t human. It\'s a travesty generator, but where did it get its training? Some of it, from John Larkin?

thank you

! We all love Carbon, we all love CO2

Only the extra-gullible twits.

https://climate.nasa.gov/internal_resources/2167/

How fluctuations in solar activity clock Climate Changes on the Earth

watch yearly charts

The chart runs from 1880 to 2020. The two curves sort of line up until 1980, then hare off in opposite directions.

The Antarctic ice core data runs back about 800,000 years

https://www.bas.ac.uk/data/our-data/publication/ice-cores-and-climate-change/

Please explain how fluctuations in solar activity could explain the ice-age inter-glacial alternation.

Show your working.

1. Short-Term Climate Changes(SM), sensed by humans, let us study one-year Climate Changes so STCC(SM) term is smart and clear for humans.

Actually, it just buries any long term change in short term noise, like the El Nino/La Nina alternation , and the multidecadal atlantic oscillation.

https://climatedataguide.ucar.edu/climate-data/atlantic-multi-decadal-oscillation-amo

2.Fluctuations in solar activity clock Climate Changes on the Earth
source: https://climate.nasa.gov/internal_resources/2167/
just remove 11-year average lines from the above chart to make things clear

3. -\"\"\"The two curves sort of line up until 1980, then hare off in opposite directions.

It doesn\'t matter, since what matters, either curve cycles and fluctuations in solar activity clock Short-Term Climate Changes on the Earth

Actually it does, because the short term fluctuations driven by solar activity are tiny, and consequences of a steadily increasing CO2 level in the atmosphere are already signifcant and certain to get larger.

4. ==https://www.bas.ac.uk/data/our-data/publication/ice-cores-and-climate-change/

==Please explain how fluctuations in solar activity could explain the ice-age inter-glacial alternation.

<snipped bitching about cookies>

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Wednesday, June 22, 2022 at 7:10:44 PM UTC+2, a a wrote:

On Wednesday, 22 June 2022 at 19:04:42 UTC+2, whit3rd wrote:
On Wednesday, June 22, 2022 at 9:37:29 AM UTC-7, a a wrote:
On Wednesday, 22 June 2022 at 17:18:37 UTC+2, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Wednesday, June 22, 2022 at 3:46:28 PM UTC+2, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

We need synthetic ammonia-based fertilizers. Human and animal waste
aren\'t enough to sustain our population.

And John Larkin is silly enough to think that you can\'t get them without burning fossil carbon.

Why he imagines that nitrogen fixing bacteria can\'t provide enough ammonia based fertiliser isn\'t obvious - he probably doesn\'t know that they exist.

Or, more likely, Anthony Watts didn\'t bother to mention in whatever propaganda spiel John Larkin is recycling here.

Thank you low-science Australia

.We all love Carbon, we all love CO2

That \'a a\' entity isn\'t human. It\'s a travesty generator, but where did it

get its training? Some of it, from John Larkin?

thank you

! We all love Carbon, we all love CO2

Only the extra-gullible twits.

https://climate.nasa.gov/internal_resources/2167/

How fluctuations in solar activity clock Climate Changes on the Earth

watch yearly charts

The chart runs from 1880 to 2020. The two curves sort of line up until 1980, then hare off in opposite directions.

The Antarctic ice core data runs back about 800,000 years

https://www.bas.ac.uk/data/our-data/publication/ice-cores-and-climate-change/

Please explain how fluctuations in solar activity could explain the ice-age inter-glacial alternation.

Show your working.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney