USB Superspeed Cables...

Rick C <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote in
news:e5462909-95b7-4e67-9062-199700a86317n@googlegroups.com:

On Thursday, January 13, 2022 at 2:26:41 AM UTC-5,
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Lasse Langwadt Christensen <lang...@fonz.dk> wrote in
news:a87b3f35-8421-4f8a...@googlegroups.com:
torsdag den 13. januar 2022 kl. 00.34.45 UTC+1 skrev
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org:
Lasse Langwadt Christensen <lang...@fonz.dk> wrote in
news:03e9b039-5704-4161...@googlegroups.com:
yes, it looks and fits like a type A but has more
connections (that only connect in the blue USB 3.0
SuperSpeed sockets)


USB1 2 and 3 have the same number of pins.

slowspeed,fullspeed and high speed all use the same pins,
Superspeed uses extra pins

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_3.0#/media/File:Connector_USB_
3_I MGP6024_wp.jpg

That is USB3.1 \"Superspeed\"
The original USB3 did not have the extra pins.

So instead of jumping a whole number, they made it 3.1

So USB3 and USB3.1 are two different animals, but both are
backward compatible with the slower form factors.

Are you the guy they call \"always wrong\"?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_3.0#Pinouts

Yes and the additional pins did not get added until superspeed was
adopted and IS called USB 3.1

Are you the guy that posts wiki pages and you don\'t even read them?
It is right there.
 
Rick C <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote in
news:0202fc6f-9cd3-4e6d-9010-99ae81471a19n@googlegroups.com:

On Thursday, January 13, 2022 at 5:05:55 AM UTC-5, John Doe wrote:
NOBODY likes this troll\'s contentless spam.

So not true. I love it. It brings a smile to my face every time.
:)

You like the troll, John Dope\'s contentless spam?

I guess it doesn\'t take much to exite a 40 IQ putz.
 
On Friday, January 14, 2022 at 9:58:13 PM UTC-5, DecadentLinux...@decadence..org wrote:
Rick C <gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:e5462909-95b7-4e67...@googlegroups.com:
On Thursday, January 13, 2022 at 2:26:41 AM UTC-5,
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Lasse Langwadt Christensen <lang...@fonz.dk> wrote in
news:a87b3f35-8421-4f8a...@googlegroups.com:
torsdag den 13. januar 2022 kl. 00.34.45 UTC+1 skrev
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org:
Lasse Langwadt Christensen <lang...@fonz.dk> wrote in
news:03e9b039-5704-4161...@googlegroups.com:
yes, it looks and fits like a type A but has more
connections (that only connect in the blue USB 3.0
SuperSpeed sockets)


USB1 2 and 3 have the same number of pins.

slowspeed,fullspeed and high speed all use the same pins,
Superspeed uses extra pins

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_3.0#/media/File:Connector_USB_
3_I MGP6024_wp.jpg

That is USB3.1 \"Superspeed\"
The original USB3 did not have the extra pins.

So instead of jumping a whole number, they made it 3.1

So USB3 and USB3.1 are two different animals, but both are
backward compatible with the slower form factors.

Are you the guy they call \"always wrong\"?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_3.0#Pinouts

Yes and the additional pins did not get added until superspeed was
adopted and IS called USB 3.1

Are you the guy that posts wiki pages and you don\'t even read them?
It is right there.

Yes, even when I put it right in front of your nose you can\'t see it. I notice you don\'t point to anything to support your view. Where on that page does it say the 3.0 standard supports superspeed (5 Gbps) on the old 2.0 style type A connector with just four pins? What you seem to be talking about is Superspeed+ (10 Gbps) if you want to actually read the documentation.

\"The VBUS, D−, D+, and GND pins are required for USB 2.0 communication. The additional USB 3.0 pins are two differential pairs and one ground (GND_DRAIN).\"

Is that clear enough for you? Can you hear me now? Use the link I provided and you can see the picture of the \"USB 3.0 Standard-A plug (top) and receptacle (bottom), with annotated pins\" where they clearly show the extra pins and the Superspeed logo.

Here\'s another link with another photo with a very clear caption explaining it uses the original 4 pins \"and a second row of five pins for the new USB 3.0 connectivity\". Notice they say \"the new USB 3.0 connectivity\", not 3.1.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_3.0#Architecture_and_features

In the USB 3.1 spec they tried to make it easier for the consumer to understand the original 5 Gbps mode and the new 10 Gbps mode by calling Superspeed, \"USB 3.1 Gen 1\" and Superspeed+, \"USB 3.1 Gen 2\". In USB 3.2 on Type C connectors only, they allow the use of the redundant connections (which allows the connector to be plugged in either way) to be used in parallel to allow SuperSpeed cables to transfer bits at 10 Gbps and SuperSpeed+ cables to transfer bits at 20 Gbps. These are called USB 3.2 Gen 1×2 and USB 3..2 Gen 2×2. These enhanced modes can not be used on Type A connectors because they do not have redundant SuperSpeed pins, just one set. So the x2 modes only work on USB cables with Type C connectors on both ends.

We all know the USB 3.0, 3.1 and 3.2 versions support full speed operation at 480 Mbps on the basic 4 pin Type A connector. If that is what you are talking about fine. No disagreement. But SuperSpeed is supported by USB 3.0 at 5 Gbps on the additional 5 recessed pins on a Type A connector before USB 3.1 was available.

Yes, it would seem you are the guy they call \"always wrong\". I don\'t get why you won\'t read the information provided. Why do you insist on doubling down on being wrong?

--

Rick C.

++ Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
++ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
 
Rick C <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote in
news:bd7c4e12-0724-4e97-b0ff-6e2d1eed6a69n@googlegroups.com:

Yes, even when I put it right in front of your nose you can\'t see
it. I notice you don\'t point to anything to support your view.
Where on that page does it say the 3.0 standard supports
superspeed (5 Gbps) on the old 2.0 style type A connector with
just four pins?

You really don\'t get it.

3.0 is NOT superspeed. 3.1 IS. That is what *I* said, not you.

backward compatability means the speed steps DOWN, not up.

So where, dipshit, did you think I ever said it did? I never did.
What I said was that the added pins did NOT appear until 3.1. That is
a fact. That is what I said, and that is ALL I said. Not once did I
say that a previous version level would support a subsequent newer
verion\'s features. The interconnects work, but speed steps BACK not
up. I never said otherwise.

So essentially FUCK YOU. You goddamned illiterate fuck. Learn to
read.

Damn you are stupid.
 
Amazing how anyone can be always wrong, but Always Wrong is always wrong...

--
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:

Path: eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!aioe.org!5U2ooNuM5UP0Ynf/GmOnCg.user.46.165.242.91.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org
Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design
Subject: Re: USB Superspeed Cables
Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2022 11:32:57 -0000 (UTC)
Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server
Message-ID: <srubd9$18am$1@gioia.aioe.org
References: <9d5b0fd0-24c9-4bc2-b7d3-ae672b6e1631n@googlegroups.com> <a740c755-4618-4194-8020-e3a98a4f9370n@googlegroups.com> <srnfmo$48v$1@dont-email.me> <03e9b039-5704-4161-ab5f-849d787b229dn@googlegroups.com> <srnoie$4vr$3@gioia.aioe.org> <a87b3f35-8421-4f8a-9f41-a7b89fdfe264n@googlegroups.com> <srok7b$m6j$1@gioia.aioe.org> <e5462909-95b7-4e67-9062-199700a86317n@googlegroups.com> <srtd7o$1hbm$1@gioia.aioe.org> <bd7c4e12-0724-4e97-b0ff-6e2d1eed6a69n@googlegroups.com
Injection-Info: gioia.aioe.org; logging-data=\"41302\"; posting-host=\"5U2ooNuM5UP0Ynf/GmOnCg.user.gioia.aioe.org\"; mail-complaints-to=\"abuse@aioe.org\";
User-Agent: Xnews/5.04.25
X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.9.2
Xref: reader02.eternal-september.org sci.electronics.design:658041
 
The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

> The troll doesn\'t even know how to format a USENET post...

And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
CLUELESS...

NOBODY likes the John Doe troll\'s contentless spam.

And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has continued to post incorrectly
formatted USENET articles that are devoid of content (latest example on
Sat, 15 Jan 2022 12:12:00 -0000 (UTC) in message-id
<srudmg$vsa$1@dont-email.me>).

This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
follow the rules it uses to troll other posters.

9rZRp1ggDULE
 
On Saturday, January 15, 2022 at 6:33:05 AM UTC-5, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
Rick C <gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> wrote in
news:bd7c4e12-0724-4e97...@googlegroups.com:
Yes, even when I put it right in front of your nose you can\'t see
it. I notice you don\'t point to anything to support your view.
Where on that page does it say the 3.0 standard supports
superspeed (5 Gbps) on the old 2.0 style type A connector with
just four pins?
You really don\'t get it.

3.0 is NOT superspeed. 3.1 IS. That is what *I* said, not you.

Yes, you continue to perpetuate that error in the face of evidence I\'ve provided and you apparently ignore or just don\'t bother to read.


backward compatability means the speed steps DOWN, not up.

So where, dipshit, did you think I ever said it did? I never did.
What I said was that the added pins did NOT appear until 3.1. That is
a fact. That is what I said, and that is ALL I said. Not once did I
say that a previous version level would support a subsequent newer
verion\'s features. The interconnects work, but speed steps BACK not
up. I never said otherwise.

So essentially FUCK YOU. You goddamned illiterate fuck. Learn to
read.

I would say you are the one who is illiterate as you fail to read any of the evidence put in front of you. I provided links and quotes that clearly show you are wrong. Superspeed is part of the USB 3.0 spec along with the extra 5 pins in the Type A connector. Read the links I provided and you will see this is true.

> Damn you are stupid.

Stupid is as stupid does. I don\'t know why you choose stupid when you only need to read and find the truth.

Do you have some defect that makes you always wrong and unwilling to accept the truth?

Whatever. You can dress \'em up, just don\'t try to take them out.

--

Rick C.

--- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
--- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
 
On Saturday, January 15, 2022 at 7:44:54 AM UTC-5, John Doe wrote:
> NOBODY likes this troll\'s contentless spam.

But I keep telling you I love it. Are you saying I\'m \"nobody\"? I\'m hurt...

--

Rick C.

--+ Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
--+ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
 
在 2022年1月13日星期四 UTC+8 04:33:49,<gnuarm.del...@gmail.com> 写道:
I\'m looking for good quality USB cables for superspeed devices. It didn\'t register with me that there would be a difference until my phone would not connect to Android Auto other than with one cable that came with a device that uses superspeed, probably a disk drive enclosure. I thought it was just a matter of intermittent connections in the ebay cables I had been buying.. Then it dawned on me that superspeed requires specific design features in the cable. Duh!

Looking on the usual sources doesn\'t turn up a lot of good sources. I want it to be 3 ft/1 m which is common and blue because of the color coding I use for cables. Trying to find that combo is a bit of work and so far, nothing that isn\'t absurdly priced (like >$30) or of dubious sources (like companies that clearly don\'t want you to return anything so they make it as hard as possible).

Where do you buy superspeed cables? Specifically I\'m looking for 3.1 gen 2 cables, but like with other revs that doesn\'t actually give a speed rating (well, maybe gen 2 does) since the standard is backwards compatible.

I was in MicroCenter a while back, but they don\'t really have a good selection of USB cables and they are 95% black. I hate black anything because it is invisible in the bottom of a bag. So many cables look the same in the deep dark recesses of a computer bag.

--

Rick C.

- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
I have dozens of brand new Ipads in LA and I want to sell them wholesale, great deals, please write me back if you can work with me
 
=?UTF-8?B?5b6Q6ZGr?= <xuxin9412@gmail.com> wrote in news:b7f3ae4d-fcdb-
4c14-bc09-4328e01ad91bn@googlegroups.com:

> I have dozens of brand new Ipads in LA

CCAD ya fucking total retard.

Catch
Covid
And
Die
 

Welcome to EDABoard.com

Sponsor

Back
Top