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bitrex

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On 11/27/2021 11:27 PM, Rick C wrote:
On Saturday, November 27, 2021 at 11:50:53 PM UTC-4, palli...@gmail.com wrote:
jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
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** Shame you did not notice the duality before this.

Don\'t be absurd.
** Not one bit absurd.

You have always * insisted *that people must post only about their own designs here.
Which is of course total bullshit.

Plus you failed *hopelessly* at all my simple quiz questions.
As fully expected.
** I just explained the stark fallacy of that idea.

OK, I don\'t have to fix many beer-soaked wa-wa pedals without
schematics.
** Go fuck yourself - you vile, ASD fucked, shit for brains septic.

Dude, you are without a doubt the strangest person in this group of Mensa wannabe misfits. In this group, that is quite a statement! My hat is off to you.
I think the strangest person is someone who went to a Mensa meeting more
than once
 
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John Larkin

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On Sat, 27 Nov 2021 19:50:51 -0800 (PST), Phil Allison
<pallison49@gmail.com> wrote:

jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
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** Shame you did not notice the duality before this.

Don\'t be absurd.

** Not one bit absurd.

You have always * insisted *that people must post only about their own designs here.
Absurd again. Bidenesque even. I have never insisted anything like
that. I\'m always happy to assist decent amateurs to understand things.

--

If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties.
Francis Bacon
 
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Phil Allison

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jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
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** Shame you did not notice the duality before this.

Don\'t be absurd.

** Not one bit absurd.

You have always * insisted *that people must post only about their own designs here.

Absurd again.
** Complete fact - you are blatantly lying.

> I have never insisted anything like that.

** YOU have CONSTANTLY insisted on it :

\" ... post one of *your* designs so we can all criticise it ...\"

Not as a polite invitation - but a thinly disguised *threat*.


> I\'m always happy to assist decent amateurs to understand things.

** Yawnnnnnnnnn.......

A massive, self aggrandising straw man fallacy.

Wot a complete asshole you are.


...... Phil
 
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bitrex

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On 11/27/2021 9:56 PM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, November 28, 2021 at 11:14:19 AM UTC+11, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sat, 27 Nov 2021 13:11:24 -0800 (PST), Phil Allison
palli...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,

by \"bad\" I mean the name is highly ambiguous.
Is \"design\" a noun or a verb round here ?

JL and others seem convinced it is a verb: \" to design \".
But it is every bit correct to think it\'s a noun: \" a design \" .
Lots of words can be nouns or verbs, or adjectives. English is funny
that way.

It is very hard to discuss anyone\'s design without seeing a schematic and this NG is non binary.
However it is easy to post links ( pdfs) to schematics found on the web, allowing discussion of them.

But that does not work out too well either:

1. Folk think they see flaws evident in a schem that does not exist in practice.

2. Others may consider a schem fine when a built version is in fact hopelessly flawed.

3. Folk like to make comments on a schem while barely understanding how it works or even what it does.
Too many issues are presented without much detail, or described
ambiguously. Interpreting a fuzzy word question is too much work...
there are too many possibilities.

Schematics are better.

But hard to make sense of if you don\'t know what the designer had in mind. Bitrex posted a .asc file which I eventually managed to cut and paste into LTSpice, and I got thrown by the fact that he wanted to generate two floating rails and didn\'t care where they sat vis-a-vis the driver ground.

I\'ll have to think a bit more about the circuit now I\'ve got a slightly better idea of what is it designed to do. What is was intended to do would be even better.
Make small voltage big with lower duty cycle than a boost and a
continuous input current, so you can regulate current on the input side.

Might be good for driving an LED string or something.
 
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bitrex

Guest
On 11/29/2021 10:46 PM, bitrex wrote:
On 11/27/2021 9:56 PM, Anthony William Sloman wrote:
On Sunday, November 28, 2021 at 11:14:19 AM UTC+11,
jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sat, 27 Nov 2021 13:11:24 -0800 (PST), Phil Allison
palli...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,

by \"bad\" I mean the name is highly ambiguous.
Is \"design\" a noun or a verb round here ?

JL and others seem convinced it is a verb: \" to design \".
But it is every bit correct to think it\'s a noun: \" a design \" .
Lots of words can be nouns or verbs, or adjectives. English is funny
that way.

It is very hard to discuss anyone\'s design without seeing a
schematic and this NG is non binary.
However it is easy to post links ( pdfs) to schematics found on the
web, allowing discussion of them.

But that does not work out too well either:

1. Folk think they see flaws evident in a schem that does not exist
in practice.

2. Others may consider a schem fine when a built version is in fact
hopelessly flawed.

3. Folk like to make comments on a schem while barely understanding
how it works or even what it does.
Too many issues are presented without much detail, or described
ambiguously. Interpreting a fuzzy word question is too much work...
there are too many possibilities.

Schematics are better.

But hard to make sense of if you don\'t know what the designer had in
mind. Bitrex posted a .asc file which I eventually managed to cut and
paste into LTSpice, and I got thrown by the fact that he wanted to
generate two floating rails and didn\'t care where they sat vis-a-vis
the driver ground.

I\'ll have to think a bit more about the circuit now I\'ve got a
slightly better idea of what is it designed to do. What is was
intended to do would be even better.


Make small voltage big with lower duty cycle than a boost and a
continuous input current, so you can regulate current on the input side.
The boost has continuous input current in CCM too but its gain isn\'t so
good.
 
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server

Guest
On Mon, 29 Nov 2021 15:13:59 -0800 (PST), Phil Allison
<pallison49@gmail.com> wrote:

jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
=====================================

** Shame you did not notice the duality before this.

Don\'t be absurd.

** Not one bit absurd.

You have always * insisted *that people must post only about their own designs here.

Absurd again.

** Complete fact - you are blatantly lying.

I have never insisted anything like that.

** YOU have CONSTANTLY insisted on it :

\" ... post one of *your* designs so we can all criticise it ...\"

Not as a polite invitation - but a thinly disguised *threat*.
Ot\'s an invitation to a sporting event, but only to people who know
how to play this game.


I\'m always happy to assist decent amateurs to understand things.

** Yawnnnnnnnnn.......

A massive, self aggrandising straw man fallacy.

Wot a complete asshole you are.


..... Phil
There is a fairly common syndrome, an electronics tech who can\'t
design and who thinks electronic design is magic, and hates the
magicians.

Your enthusiasm for finding design defects fits right in. It shows, to
you, that EEs are impractical equation-slinging airheads. When I
worked in Silicon Valley, the cultural differences were stark and
often funny. Engineers drove sports cars; techs drove pickups.
Engineers ate at restaurants, techs at strip clubs. Tribes.

I don\'t think that a good tech is dumb or anything; I respect her
skills. We can work together and create products. I want my techs to
consider that a problem could be a design defect, and come talk to us
about it. We *don\'t* want a test tech to, for example, replace an
opamp four times until the thing works. Finding bugs can be a friendly
rivalry, a sport.

We have a folder on a server, J:\\NEXT. Every product has a folder and
a file like PxxxAtoB.txt with other docs as needed. Anyone in the
company can add notes and suggestions for the next rev, and the test
people do roughly half.

The test people participate in new product design reviews too. They
always want more test points.







--

Father Brown\'s figure remained quite dark and still;
but in that instant he had lost his head. His head was
always most valuable when he had lost it.
 
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Rick C

Guest
On Tuesday, November 30, 2021 at 9:14:47 AM UTC-4, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Mon, 29 Nov 2021 15:13:59 -0800 (PST), Phil Allison
palli...@gmail.com> wrote:

jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
=====================================

** Shame you did not notice the duality before this.

Don\'t be absurd.

** Not one bit absurd.

You have always * insisted *that people must post only about their own designs here.

Absurd again.

** Complete fact - you are blatantly lying.

I have never insisted anything like that.

** YOU have CONSTANTLY insisted on it :

\" ... post one of *your* designs so we can all criticise it ...\"

Not as a polite invitation - but a thinly disguised *threat*.
Ot\'s an invitation to a sporting event, but only to people who know
how to play this game.
Lol, we all know the real sport game is a blood lust game as invoked below.


I\'m always happy to assist decent amateurs to understand things.

** Yawnnnnnnnnn.......

A massive, self aggrandising straw man fallacy.
Let the s.e.d games begin!

Wot a complete asshole you are.


..... Phil



There is a fairly common syndrome, an electronics tech who can\'t
design and who thinks electronic design is magic, and hates the
magicians.
Nice double move, insulting the opponent and giving himself a boost by referring to himself as a \"magician\". A solid opening move. +2 Larkin


Your enthusiasm for finding design defects fits right in. It shows, to
you, that EEs are impractical equation-slinging airheads. When I
worked in Silicon Valley, the cultural differences were stark and
often funny. Engineers drove sports cars; techs drove pickups.
Engineers ate at restaurants, techs at strip clubs. Tribes.
The follow up move is weak at best and opens himself to attacks of elitism. +3 Larkin


I don\'t think that a good tech is dumb or anything; I respect her
skills. We can work together and create products. I want my techs to
consider that a problem could be a design defect, and come talk to us
about it. We *don\'t* want a test tech to, for example, replace an
opamp four times until the thing works. Finding bugs can be a friendly
rivalry, a sport.
Now he is heading into the territory of \"my way is best\". There\'s no shortage of Larkin\'s moves in this area, so he needs to watch out for the obvious countermoves. Still +3 Larkin


We have a folder on a server, J:\\NEXT. Every product has a folder and
a file like PxxxAtoB.txt with other docs as needed. Anyone in the
company can add notes and suggestions for the next rev, and the test
people do roughly half.
Continuing in the same vein is asking for counter attacks. Still +3 Larkin


The test people participate in new product design reviews too. They
always want more test points.
Here he continues with the same tired \"what I do is best\" pronouncement, but he adds a slight for a bit of variety. +4 Larkin

Will Phil be able to defend against these attacks or will he cower under his bench hurling profanities?

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Rick C.

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Anthony William Sloman

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On Wednesday, December 1, 2021 at 12:14:47 AM UTC+11, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Mon, 29 Nov 2021 15:13:59 -0800 (PST), Phil Allison
palli...@gmail.com> wrote:
jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

\" ... post one of *your* designs so we can all criticise it ...\"

Not as a polite invitation - but a thinly disguised *threat*.

It\'s an invitation to a sporting event, but only to people who know how to play this game.
It\'s a pity that John Larkin doesn\'t know how to play this particular game.

> >> I\'m always happy to assist decent amateurs to understand things.

Not a claim for which I\'ve seen an evidence here.

<sni>

> There is a fairly common syndrome, an electronics tech who can\'t design and who thinks electronic design is magic, and hates the magicians.

<snip>

True, but irrelevant. John Larkin is just being rude again.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
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