They sounded alarms about a coming Colorado River crisis. But warnings went unheeded...

On 07/31/2022 02:02 PM, Don Y wrote:
Idea: Let\'s start a *citrus* farm outside of Nashua!

Nashua as in the place where they should set up a checkpoint for illegal
migrants from Massachusetts?
 
On 07/31/2022 01:45 PM, Don Y wrote:
The Lonn devices are almost tedious to \"turn on\". So, you are
very conscious of how long you\'ve been deforming the nozzle to
allow water to pass; turning the water OFF comes as a relief!

I\'ve used those someplace, probably a filling station. It\'s nothing I
would inflict on myself. Besides I check on the river about 250 yards
from my backdoor. Unlike sections of the Rio Grande, it\'s still flowing.
 
On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 8:32:29 AM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Thu, 28 Jul 2022 17:48:57 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:

All the corrupt old farts who\'re responsible for this mess are dead and gone.

Use the whole link:
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2022-07-15/scientists-have-long-warned-of-a-colorado-river-crisis?

Alarms again. Fear. You need to be afraid.

Not paying attention to alarms, was a MAJOR violation of proper behavior during school
fire drills. Even as an adult, if you are one, it\'s an impropriety.

It\'s not about fear, but about apprehension; if you expect to drink water, you
want to live near a source, hopefully a reliable one. Bad things happen
if we don\'t plan ahead.

Larkin Syndrome: perceiving fear, hysteria, panic in every situation
 
On 7/31/2022 6:02 PM, rbowman wrote:
On 07/31/2022 02:02 PM, Don Y wrote:

Idea: Let\'s start a *citrus* farm outside of Nashua!

Nashua as in the place where they should set up a checkpoint for illegal
migrants from Massachusetts?

No, from the secret soviet base in Hollis!
 
On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 3:51:01 AM UTC-7, Don Y wrote:
On 7/28/2022 5:48 PM, Fred Bloggs wrote:

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2022-07-15/scientists-have-long-warned-of-a-colorado-river-crisis?emci=717875c0-c80e-ed11-b47a-281878b83d8a&emdi=d21d7691-ca0e-ed11-b47a-281878b83d8a&ceid=509869

\"Scientists\" aren\'t typically concerned with economics.

Water drives economic development in the West. If you don\'t have adequate
water supplies, you can\'t build houses. If you can\'t build houses, you
can\'t support businesses.

Cities, here, need to ensure a 100yr water supply for bonding.

Yeah, planning ahead is kinda essential when you require and support housing
that has to last 30 years \'til the mortgage is paid off.

A trailer park, absent a supply of water, isn\'t a good place to put down roots, but
it\'s easy to leave.
 
On 7/31/2022 6:07 PM, rbowman wrote:
On 07/31/2022 01:45 PM, Don Y wrote:
The Lonn devices are almost tedious to \"turn on\". So, you are
very conscious of how long you\'ve been deforming the nozzle to
allow water to pass; turning the water OFF comes as a relief!

I\'ve used those someplace, probably a filling station. It\'s nothing I would
inflict on myself. Besides I check on the river about 250 yards from my
backdoor. Unlike sections of the Rio Grande, it\'s still flowing.

I fell in love with them after watching a \"facilities worker\" using them
at a client\'s shop. The fact that he could just DROP it on the concrete
slab without worrying about breaking it or \"getting squirted\" was a huge
selling point.

[I also bought a pair of hot water hoses.]

When washing the cars, one needs to have water continuously available
as the cars *dry* so quickly (ultralow humidity). And, if they are
left to dry, they *spot*.

So, you want to be able to pick up hose and quickly re-wet the entire
vehicle every few minutes. Use a large bath towel to do the bulk drying
and a chamois for the fine detail.

But, you *really* have to work quick cuz the spots are almost impossible
to be rid of!

[\"Invisible Glass\" is a good product for manually cleaning window glass]
 
On 7/31/2022 6:43 PM, whit3rd wrote:
On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 3:51:01 AM UTC-7, Don Y wrote:
On 7/28/2022 5:48 PM, Fred Bloggs wrote:

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2022-07-15/scientists-have-long-warned-of-a-colorado-river-crisis?emci=717875c0-c80e-ed11-b47a-281878b83d8a&emdi=d21d7691-ca0e-ed11-b47a-281878b83d8a&ceid=509869

\"Scientists\" aren\'t typically concerned with economics.

Water drives economic development in the West. If you don\'t have adequate
water supplies, you can\'t build houses. If you can\'t build houses, you
can\'t support businesses.

Cities, here, need to ensure a 100yr water supply for bonding.

Yeah, planning ahead is kinda essential when you require and support housing
that has to last 30 years \'til the mortgage is paid off.

A trailer park, absent a supply of water, isn\'t a good place to put down roots, but
it\'s easy to leave.

Imagine the municipality\'s \"investments\". They want to issue bonds to
fund roads and other infrastructure. What if all that is for nought
given the prospects for continued habitation?

We\'ve already made plumbing changes in anticipation of having to add
\"local\" treatment capabilities for hte inevitable switch to \"treated
effluent\". (Yeah, like I\'m gonna trust you guys to get THAT right...)
 
On Sun, 31 Jul 2022 18:00:11 -0700, corvid <bl@ckb.ird> wrote:

On 7/31/22 16:42, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sun, 31 Jul 2022 23:39:09 -0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:

jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
news:f08dehh8d7602fgar8l56f40e11ifvjk3c@4ax.com:

snip

Alarms again. Fear. You need to be afraid.

You\'re afraid to even post your real name. Afraid someone will
attack you or something.

Wnat a way to live.

You are such a fucking modern day dopey dipshit.

You\'re afraid too. Most people are.

I\'m afraid of Yellowjackets. Not Rattlesnakes, though.

Many people are afraid of spiders. Maybe it\'s genetic.
 
On Sun, 31 Jul 2022 18:36:45 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com>
wrote:

On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 8:32:29 AM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Thu, 28 Jul 2022 17:48:57 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:

All the corrupt old farts who\'re responsible for this mess are dead and gone.

Use the whole link:
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2022-07-15/scientists-have-long-warned-of-a-colorado-river-crisis?

Alarms again. Fear. You need to be afraid.

Not paying attention to alarms, was a MAJOR violation of proper behavior during school
fire drills. Even as an adult, if you are one, it\'s an impropriety.

It\'s not about fear, but about apprehension; if you expect to drink water, you
want to live near a source, hopefully a reliable one. Bad things happen
if we don\'t plan ahead.

Larkin Syndrome: perceiving fear, hysteria, panic in every situation

Read the thread title. I didn\'t make that up.
 
On 7/31/22 18:57, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sun, 31 Jul 2022 18:00:11 -0700, corvid <bl@ckb.ird> wrote:
On 7/31/22 16:42, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sun, 31 Jul 2022 23:39:09 -0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:
jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
news:f08dehh8d7602fgar8l56f40e11ifvjk3c@4ax.com:

snip

Alarms again. Fear. You need to be afraid.

You\'re afraid to even post your real name. Afraid someone
will attack you or something.

Wnat a way to live.

You are such a fucking modern day dopey dipshit.

You\'re afraid too. Most people are.

I\'m afraid of Yellowjackets. Not Rattlesnakes, though.

Many people are afraid of spiders. Maybe it\'s genetic.

Hey, if you haven\'t yet, I think you should stuff an empty CO2 cartridge
with match heads and light the fuse. Every other kid has done that. I did.
 
On 07/31/2022 07:43 PM, whit3rd wrote:
On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 3:51:01 AM UTC-7, Don Y wrote:
On 7/28/2022 5:48 PM, Fred Bloggs wrote:

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2022-07-15/scientists-have-long-warned-of-a-colorado-river-crisis?emci=717875c0-c80e-ed11-b47a-281878b83d8a&emdi=d21d7691-ca0e-ed11-b47a-281878b83d8a&ceid=509869

\"Scientists\" aren\'t typically concerned with economics.

Water drives economic development in the West. If you don\'t have adequate
water supplies, you can\'t build houses. If you can\'t build houses, you
can\'t support businesses.

Cities, here, need to ensure a 100yr water supply for bonding.

Yeah, planning ahead is kinda essential when you require and support housing
that has to last 30 years \'til the mortgage is paid off.

A trailer park, absent a supply of water, isn\'t a good place to put down roots, but
it\'s easy to leave.

Pima County found that out when they tried to put a .50/day tax on RVs
to fund their baseball stadium. When your potential tax base is on
wheels they tend to furl the awning and head for some other county.
 
On 07/31/2022 10:11 PM, corvid wrote:
On 7/31/22 18:57, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sun, 31 Jul 2022 18:00:11 -0700, corvid <bl@ckb.ird> wrote:
On 7/31/22 16:42, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sun, 31 Jul 2022 23:39:09 -0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:
jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
news:f08dehh8d7602fgar8l56f40e11ifvjk3c@4ax.com:

snip

Alarms again. Fear. You need to be afraid.

You\'re afraid to even post your real name. Afraid someone
will attack you or something.

Wnat a way to live.

You are such a fucking modern day dopey dipshit.

You\'re afraid too. Most people are.

I\'m afraid of Yellowjackets. Not Rattlesnakes, though.

Many people are afraid of spiders. Maybe it\'s genetic.

Hey, if you haven\'t yet, I think you should stuff an empty CO2 cartridge
with match heads and light the fuse. Every other kid has done that. I did.

Never did that. The drugstores used to sell cans of saltpeter and
flowers of sulfur. Sugar is an easier source of carbon than charcoal.
Fill an old steel drygas can that sort of had a nozzle and you could
make a satisfying firework.

One of the neighborhood kids did the match head thing and it didn\'t end
well.
 
On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 6:59:45 PM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sun, 31 Jul 2022 18:36:45 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 8:32:29 AM UTC-7, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Thu, 28 Jul 2022 17:48:57 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:

All the corrupt old farts who\'re responsible for this mess are dead and gone.

Use the whole link:
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2022-07-15/scientists-have-long-warned-of-a-colorado-river-crisis?

Alarms again. Fear. You need to be afraid.

Not paying attention to alarms, was a MAJOR violation of proper behavior during school
fire drills. Even as an adult, if you are one, it\'s an impropriety.

It\'s not about fear, but about apprehension; if you expect to drink water, you
want to live near a source, hopefully a reliable one. Bad things happen
if we don\'t plan ahead.

Larkin Syndrome: perceiving fear, hysteria, panic in every situation

Read the thread title. I didn\'t make that up.

Huh? \'Alarm\', as in snooze alarm or fire alarm, or smoke alarm, just means a
mechanism of warning. It doesn\'t require an emotional response of fear.
Time to implement stage 2 of your morning\'s plan, or plan B
of water supply for a state. Or, change a battery. Whatever is appropriate.
 
On 7/31/2022 9:17 PM, rbowman wrote:
On 07/31/2022 07:43 PM, whit3rd wrote:
On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 3:51:01 AM UTC-7, Don Y wrote:
On 7/28/2022 5:48 PM, Fred Bloggs wrote:

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2022-07-15/scientists-have-long-warned-of-a-colorado-river-crisis?emci=717875c0-c80e-ed11-b47a-281878b83d8a&emdi=d21d7691-ca0e-ed11-b47a-281878b83d8a&ceid=509869


\"Scientists\" aren\'t typically concerned with economics.

Water drives economic development in the West. If you don\'t have adequate
water supplies, you can\'t build houses. If you can\'t build houses, you
can\'t support businesses.

Cities, here, need to ensure a 100yr water supply for bonding.

Yeah, planning ahead is kinda essential when you require and support housing
that has to last 30 years \'til the mortgage is paid off.

A trailer park, absent a supply of water, isn\'t a good place to put down
roots, but
it\'s easy to leave.


Pima County found that out when they tried to put a .50/day tax on RVs to fund
their baseball stadium. When your potential tax base is on wheels they tend to
furl the awning and head for some other county.

IMO, they folded too quickly on that one.

Where, ACTUALLY, do they think they were going to go? Feenigs? (why hadn\'t
they been going there already?) Sahuarita? (how many restaurants and other
accommodations?) Green Valley? (go away! leave us old folks to die in
peace!) Vail?

They came to where they could best be accommodated -- without spending a few
dollars a day on gas to DRIVE to \"someplace civilized\". For the most part,
they are a pathetic, \"cheap\" lot. The first question out of their mouth is to
try to locate the \"free activities\" (you can afford a $100K motor home but
can\'t afford to PAY for your entertainment? you don\'t own property, here,
so don\'t pay taxes -- yet want the benefits those tax dollars fund?)

Locals have learned to be very closed-mouthed about sharing info on the
\"non-public\" activities that exist. No, I\'m not going to invite you over
to the house to share our studio space with the other LOCAL artists. No,
we\'re not going to invite you to join us on the golf course. Or, clue you
in on the unpublished activities that we know about.

But, hey, you can go play BINGO or GIN at the park district! You\'ll likely
find lots of other out-of-towners, there! Seems kinda silly to drive that
big behemoth all that way just to play BINGO! <shrug>
 
On 8/1/2022 1:00 AM, whit3rd wrote:
Huh? \'Alarm\', as in snooze alarm or fire alarm, or smoke alarm, just means a
mechanism of warning. It doesn\'t require an emotional response of fear.

Exactly.

\"Your laundry cycle has completed\"
\"Your toast is done\"
\"You have neglected to fasten your seat belts\"
\"The item you\'re defrosting in the microwave is ready\"
\"YOU wanted to be notified of this time (of day, email rceipt, etc.)!\"
\"A door is ajar\" (no, a door is a DOOR, not a JAR!)
\"Your car is due for scheduled maintenance\"
\"You\'ve neglected to put the vehicle in park despite shutting off the ignition\"
\"You\'ve exited the vehicle while it is running\"
\"If you don\'t leave now, you\'ll be late for work\"

Some people see fear in everything. And assume fear in others without
proof thereof.

They should remove the \"alarms\" from all such devices and just be content
to live with the consequences (moldy laundry, burnt toast, personal injury
in auto accidents, late to work, etc.) lest they find themselves in a
perpetual state of panic!

Time to implement stage 2 of your morning\'s plan, or plan B
of water supply for a state. Or, change a battery. Whatever is appropriate.

It\'s an *alert*, if that is less threatening. But, often there may
be more significant consequences to it\'s absence (or being ignored).

Ignore the doorbell (alert) and... <shrug> Likely just a vendor or
neighbor. *BUT*, could be the fire department urging you to leave
your residence lest the fire at the neighbor\'s home involve yours!

Ignore the \"brake failure\" (alarm) and... ?
 
On 08/01/2022 03:04 AM, Don Y wrote:
Where, ACTUALLY, do they think they were going to go? Feenigs? (why
hadn\'t
they been going there already?) Sahuarita? (how many restaurants and
other
accommodations?) Green Valley? (go away! leave us old folks to die in
peace!) Vail?

Quartzite. I have a small trailer at Why that hasn\'t moved since the
early \'90s. When that scheme went through I registered it as a mobile
home, which costs me about $11 a year in property tax.

If you\'re familiar with Why it doesn\'t have much in the way of
accommodations. Luckily the library in Ajo, small as it is, is a branch
of the Pima County library and can pull on its resources.

They also finally put a part-time DMV branch in Ajo so you don\'t have to
go to Casa or Tucson.
 
On 8/1/2022 10:01 AM, rbowman wrote:
On 08/01/2022 03:04 AM, Don Y wrote:
Where, ACTUALLY, do they think they were going to go? Feenigs? (why
hadn\'t
they been going there already?) Sahuarita? (how many restaurants and
other
accommodations?) Green Valley? (go away! leave us old folks to die in
peace!) Vail?

Quartzite.

Yeah, but they want to be able to eat at decent NEARBY restaurants,
take advantage of the \"free\" offerings at the park district, swim
in the public pools, golf on local courses, etc.

And, do so for less than 50c/day -- in gas! :>

I have a small trailer at Why that hasn\'t moved since the early
\'90s. When that scheme went through I registered it as a mobile home, which
costs me about $11 a year in property tax.

Ha! Too funny! Have your absentee ballot sent there -- and forwarded
by a friend! Vote early, vote often!

If you\'re familiar with Why it doesn\'t have much in the way of accommodations.
Luckily the library in Ajo, small as it is, is a branch of the Pima County
library and can pull on its resources.

Yeah, I had a cousin come out when he was exploring the country for a
place to spend a few years. He visited Ajo (and isn\'t there a reservation
out that way?) and decided, \"No Thanks\"!

[Though he ended up in Gallup -- which can\'t be much better!]

They also finally put a part-time DMV branch in Ajo so you don\'t have to go to
Casa or Tucson.

Ugh! Reminds me I have to change the address on SWMBO\'s vehicle registration.
\"Come in to any office...\"

<frown>

Thankfully, DMV here is considerably faster than in other places I\'ve lived!
 
On 08/01/2022 12:30 PM, Don Y wrote:
I have a small trailer at Why that hasn\'t moved since the early \'90s.
When that scheme went through I registered it as a mobile home, which
costs me about $11 a year in property tax.

Ha! Too funny! Have your absentee ballot sent there -- and forwarded
by a friend! Vote early, vote often!

Nah, wrong district. I couldn\'t vote for Wendy Rogers. It would be
better if she didn\'t look like a chipmunk caught in the headlights in
most photos.


Yeah, I had a cousin come out when he was exploring the country for a
place to spend a few years. He visited Ajo (and isn\'t there a reservation
out that way?) and decided, \"No Thanks\"!

There isn\'t much there. Phelps Dodge pulled out in \'85, leaving an open
pit mine and miles of tailings. They went through the motions every 10
years or so so they won\'t have to start remediation. PD is gone now,
bought by Freeport-McMoran who will probably try to weasel out of the
liabilities.

When I first went there in \'88 PD was selling off the company houses for
about $20k per. I considered it briefly but decided by the time I
retired in 20 years or so they would be money sinks, needing new roofs,
and so forth.

PD ran the company store for a while and pulled out but there is a
grocery store which is adequate if not fancy. Same for the hardware
store. The movie theater died in the \'90s, and the restaurants started
following suit.

They built a Border Patrol station at Why which prevented a complete
collapse but it still isn\'t a thriving community.

The Tohono O\'Odham Reservation starts about half a mile east of Why on
86 and ends just west of Three Points. It\'s an irregular shape but
extends into Mexico so in the US it runs from the border to about 10
miles south of Casa Grande. There\'s not a lot there. Sells is the
biggest town. I don\'t think Kitt Peak itself is on the rez but where you
turn to go up the mountain is.

North of Ajo to close to Gila Bend is the Cabeza Prieta Wildlife Refuge
/ Barry Goldwater Bombing Range. You can hike out on it after you call
up to Gila to find out if they\'re planning a war that day.

It\'s a great place if you like the desert and have basic tastes.

Gallup is a lot. It\'s claim to fame is where the Indians come off the
rez to get drunk and kill themselves trying to get home, either in car
wrecks or exposure if they\'re hoofing it. It\'s over 6400 feet so winter
is a thing there. You cross the Divide east of town so that\'s another
little surprise like Flag for people who think I40 is dry and dusty year
around.



[Though he ended up in Gallup -- which can\'t be much better!]
 
On 8/1/2022 5:03 PM, rbowman wrote:
On 08/01/2022 12:30 PM, Don Y wrote:

I have a small trailer at Why that hasn\'t moved since the early \'90s.
When that scheme went through I registered it as a mobile home, which
costs me about $11 a year in property tax.

Ha! Too funny! Have your absentee ballot sent there -- and forwarded
by a friend! Vote early, vote often!

Nah, wrong district. I couldn\'t vote for Wendy Rogers. It would be better if
she didn\'t look like a chipmunk caught in the headlights in most photos.

I find it hard to vote for MOST arizonans! <frown>

Yeah, I had a cousin come out when he was exploring the country for a
place to spend a few years. He visited Ajo (and isn\'t there a reservation
out that way?) and decided, \"No Thanks\"!

There isn\'t much there. Phelps Dodge pulled out in \'85, leaving an open pit
mine and miles of tailings. They went through the motions every 10 years or so
so they won\'t have to start remediation. PD is gone now, bought by
Freeport-McMoran who will probably try to weasel out of the liabilities.

Neighbor lived there for some time. Then divorced and moved here.
She never mentions anything \"interesting\" about the place -- other than heat.

When I first went there in \'88 PD was selling off the company houses for about
$20k per. I considered it briefly but decided by the time I retired in 20 years
or so they would be money sinks, needing new roofs, and so forth.

Those things can be solved with money. I am more concerned with access
to amenities, care facilities, etc. I know I can be at any of two or three
hospitals in 10 minutes; as I get older, that means something to me!

[We\'d thought of moving farther out -- less traffic, congestion, better
views, fewer neighbors, etc. But, those things also mean 30+ minute
rides for emergency care, 30+ minute rides to stores, etc.]

PD ran the company store for a while and pulled out but there is a grocery
store which is adequate if not fancy. Same for the hardware store. The movie
theater died in the \'90s, and the restaurants started following suit.

They built a Border Patrol station at Why which prevented a complete collapse
but it still isn\'t a thriving community.

The Tohono O\'Odham Reservation starts about half a mile east of Why on 86 and
ends just west of Three Points. It\'s an irregular shape but extends into Mexico
so in the US it runs from the border to about 10 miles south of Casa Grande.
There\'s not a lot there. Sells is the biggest town. I don\'t think Kitt Peak
itself is on the rez but where you turn to go up the mountain is.

*Sells* was the place my cousin visited.

North of Ajo to close to Gila Bend is the Cabeza Prieta Wildlife Refuge / Barry
Goldwater Bombing Range. You can hike out on it after you call up to Gila to
find out if they\'re planning a war that day.

It\'s a great place if you like the desert and have basic tastes.

<grin> See above.

Gallup is a lot. It\'s claim to fame is where the Indians come off the rez to
get drunk and kill themselves trying to get home, either in car wrecks or
exposure if they\'re hoofing it. It\'s over 6400 feet so winter is a thing there.
You cross the Divide east of town so that\'s another little surprise like Flag
for people who think I40 is dry and dusty year around.

Yeah, one comment my cousin made was how he felt like \"a minority\", there.

And, how different their culture is. Language, values, traditions, etc.

He didn\'t claim they were standoffish -- in fact, many invited him into
their homes for traditional meals, etc.

But, he was uncomfortable feeling that *he* was the \"different\" one!

>> [Though he ended up in Gallup -- which can\'t be much better!]
 
On 08/01/2022 08:03 PM, Don Y wrote:
Neighbor lived there for some time. Then divorced and moved here.
She never mentions anything \"interesting\" about the place -- other than
heat.

There\'s plenty of that. There is a nice 300 yard range north of town.
You\'ve got to time it right though, before the wind picks up and the
mirage takes over.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssqnPObnG9E

People think of mirages from cartoons but 300 yards of 150+ degree sand
will do it.

I\'ve only seen a classic mirage once, coming down the hill from the CA
border headed to LV. There was a big lake in the valley that isn\'t on
any map.


> *Sells* was the place my cousin visited.

The grocery store there is an abbreviated Basha\'s. I\'d stop there
sometimes if I got tired of Tuscon before I picked up groceries. I\'m a
sucker for maranitos and they\'d generally have a few bags. There\'s a
rodeo and that\'s about it for Sells.

The real rodeo is at the end of January but it\'s open range so cattle
are often wandering around the road looking for greenery along the road.

Besides that there isn\'t much on 86. I came back on the bike after dark
on Dia de los Muertos. Spookiest ride I ever took with the candles
burning in all those roadside shrines. I never did figure out how so
many people killed themselves on a basically straight road with nothing
bigger than a saguaro to hit.


Yeah, one comment my cousin made was how he felt like \"a minority\", there.

And, how different their culture is. Language, values, traditions, etc.

He didn\'t claim they were standoffish -- in fact, many invited him into
their homes for traditional meals, etc.

But, he was uncomfortable feeling that *he* was the \"different\" one!

Gallup is about half Navajo, so yeah. You get that in a lot of the small
NM towns, not Navajos but Spanish that have been there since the land
grant days.

It is different. I spent about a week snooping around Chaco Canyon and
got to know some of the rangers. One was a Navajo and he said his family
gave him a hard time when he took the job there. The Navajo were late
arrivals and don\'t know any more about the Anasazi than the whites but
they thought that canyon was really bad juju. Fascinating place if you
like environmental disasters. Phoenix, Casa Grande, Mesa Verde, and on
and on thought they were in tall cotton until they weren\'t.

Supposedly \'Navajo\' was Hopi for head-bashers. They\'re not friends. The
Navajo prefer \'Dine\', or roughly \'the (real) people\'. I think damn near
every tribal name on every continent translates the same. They didn\'t
name themselves Big Bellies, Pierced Noses, Flatheads, or whatever the
tribe on the other side of the hill called them.
 

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