Ritzy San Francisco condo tower is now leaning 26 INCHES with tilt set to progress...

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Fred Bloggs

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It\'s going to take a total collapse before the moron politicians realize the moron engineers don\'t know what they\'re doing, and that the whole bunch of them are a waste of oxygen.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10384831/Ritzy-San-Francisco-condo-tower-leaning-26-INCHES.html
 
On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 04:01:30 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

It\'s going to take a total collapse before the moron politicians realize the moron engineers don\'t know what they\'re doing, and that the whole bunch of them are a waste of oxygen.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10384831/Ritzy-San-Francisco-condo-tower-leaning-26-INCHES.html

Reminds me of this:
https://images.fastcompany.net/image/upload/w_596,c_limit,q_auto:best,f_auto/fc/3064328-inline-inline-idiocracy.jpg
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Spehro Pefhany
 
On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 10:30:57 -0500, Spehro Pefhany
<speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:

On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 04:01:30 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

It\'s going to take a total collapse before the moron politicians realize the moron engineers don\'t know what they\'re doing, and that the whole bunch of them are a waste of oxygen.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10384831/Ritzy-San-Francisco-condo-tower-leaning-26-INCHES.html


Reminds me of this:
https://images.fastcompany.net/image/upload/w_596,c_limit,q_auto:best,f_auto/fc/3064328-inline-inline-idiocracy.jpg

Look like normal contemporary architecture to me.



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On Tuesday, January 11, 2022 at 8:38:20 AM UTC-8, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

> Look like normal contemporary architecture to me.

The issue, though, is whether the best word is \'contemporary\', or \'temporary\'.
Mortgage holders and insurers, as well as tenants and neighbors, care greatly about the
difference.
 
On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 04:01:30 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

It\'s going to take a total collapse before the moron politicians realize the moron engineers don\'t know what they\'re doing, and that the whole bunch of them are a waste of oxygen.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10384831/Ritzy-San-Francisco-condo-tower-leaning-26-INCHES.html

The tilt is now a terrifying 0.18 degrees. Don\'t park nearby.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/mxq0f5bvi7ljx1u/SFMT1.jpg?raw=1



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If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties.
Francis Bacon
 
On 1/11/2022 7:01 AM, Fred Bloggs wrote:
It\'s going to take a total collapse before the moron politicians realize the moron engineers don\'t know what they\'re doing, and that the whole bunch of them are a waste of oxygen.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10384831/Ritzy-San-Francisco-condo-tower-leaning-26-INCHES.html

<https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/10/us/nyc-bronx-apartment-fire-monday/index.html>

<http://www.camberpg.com/about-us/>

Rick Gropper owns the building and is a member of the NYC mayor\'s
office. The whole bunch of them are a waste of oxygen
 
On Tuesday, January 11, 2022 at 4:01:36 AM UTC-8, Fred Bloggs wrote:
It\'s going to take a total collapse before the moron politicians realize the moron engineers don\'t know what they\'re doing, and that the whole bunch of them are a waste of oxygen.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10384831/Ritzy-San-Francisco-condo-tower-leaning-26-INCHES.html

Well, what makes you think that the politicians can come up with a fix if the engineers can\'t?
 
On Wednesday, January 12, 2022 at 6:33:49 PM UTC+11, Flyguy wrote:
On Tuesday, January 11, 2022 at 4:01:36 AM UTC-8, Fred Bloggs wrote:
It\'s going to take a total collapse before the moron politicians realize the moron engineers don\'t know what they\'re doing, and that the whole bunch of them are a waste of oxygen.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10384831/Ritzy-San-Francisco-condo-tower-leaning-26-INCHES.html

Well, what makes you think that the politicians can come up with a fix if the engineers can\'t?

Flyguy is silly enough to think that the UK Daily Mail is a particularly reliable source, but this is Flyguy, and - as usual - he didn\'t actually read what the Daily Mail was saying.

The engineers solution is now to support the tower on 18 longer piles which will go all the way down to bed-rock. This is Californian bed-rock, which is probably planning to emigrate to Alaska, but not all that soon. There don\'t seem to be any politicians involved at all.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
 
On Wednesday, January 12, 2022 at 2:33:49 AM UTC-5, Flyguy wrote:
On Tuesday, January 11, 2022 at 4:01:36 AM UTC-8, Fred Bloggs wrote:
It\'s going to take a total collapse before the moron politicians realize the moron engineers don\'t know what they\'re doing, and that the whole bunch of them are a waste of oxygen.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10384831/Ritzy-San-Francisco-condo-tower-leaning-26-INCHES.html
Well, what makes you think that the politicians can come up with a fix if the engineers can\'t?

Politicians have the power to condemn it and force the owner to pay for its demolition.
 
On Tuesday, January 11, 2022 at 5:50:27 PM UTC-5, John Larkin wrote:
On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 04:01:30 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
It\'s going to take a total collapse before the moron politicians realize the moron engineers don\'t know what they\'re doing, and that the whole bunch of them are a waste of oxygen.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10384831/Ritzy-San-Francisco-condo-tower-leaning-26-INCHES.html

The tilt is now a terrifying 0.18 degrees. Don\'t park nearby.

You can\'t go by that. There are huge stress multipliers when massive structures go off center.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/mxq0f5bvi7ljx1u/SFMT1.jpg?raw=1



--

If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties.
Francis Bacon
 
On Wed, 12 Jan 2022 06:17:41 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

On Tuesday, January 11, 2022 at 5:50:27 PM UTC-5, John Larkin wrote:
On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 04:01:30 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
It\'s going to take a total collapse before the moron politicians realize the moron engineers don\'t know what they\'re doing, and that the whole bunch of them are a waste of oxygen.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10384831/Ritzy-San-Francisco-condo-tower-leaning-26-INCHES.html

The tilt is now a terrifying 0.18 degrees. Don\'t park nearby.

You can\'t go by that. There are huge stress multipliers when massive structures go off center.

Pleae show your work.



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I yam what I yam - Popeye
 
Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, January 11, 2022 at 5:50:27 PM UTC-5, John Larkin wrote:
On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 04:01:30 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
It\'s going to take a total collapse before the moron politicians realize the moron engineers don\'t know what they\'re doing, and that the whole bunch of them are a waste of oxygen.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10384831/Ritzy-San-Francisco-condo-tower-leaning-26-INCHES.html

The tilt is now a terrifying 0.18 degrees. Don\'t park nearby.

You can\'t go by that. There are huge stress multipliers when massive structures go off center.

That piece of junk will fall over before the stresses become too large.
The built no doubt matches the \"quality\" of the design.

The sad part is it\'s not even a really tall building. Losers in CA can\'t
even construct a simple building without messing up.
 
On Wed, 12 Jan 2022 16:05:47 -0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
<presence@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote:

Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, January 11, 2022 at 5:50:27 PM UTC-5, John Larkin wrote:
On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 04:01:30 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
It\'s going to take a total collapse before the moron politicians realize the moron engineers don\'t know what they\'re doing, and that the whole bunch of them are a waste of oxygen.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10384831/Ritzy-San-Francisco-condo-tower-leaning-26-INCHES.html

The tilt is now a terrifying 0.18 degrees. Don\'t park nearby.

You can\'t go by that. There are huge stress multipliers when massive structures go off center.

That piece of junk will fall over before the stresses become too large.
The built no doubt matches the \"quality\" of the design.

The sad part is it\'s not even a really tall building. Losers in CA can\'t
even construct a simple building without messing up.

Handel Architects is a New York firm. The developer was Millennium
Partners, a New York firm.

I wish you incompetent yokels would leave us alone and not jam our
restaurants and beaches and ski towns.



--

I yam what I yam - Popeye
 
On Wednesday, January 12, 2022 at 11:41:47 AM UTC-5, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jan 2022 16:05:47 -0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
pres...@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote:

Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, January 11, 2022 at 5:50:27 PM UTC-5, John Larkin wrote:
On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 04:01:30 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
It\'s going to take a total collapse before the moron politicians realize the moron engineers don\'t know what they\'re doing, and that the whole bunch of them are a waste of oxygen.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10384831/Ritzy-San-Francisco-condo-tower-leaning-26-INCHES.html

The tilt is now a terrifying 0.18 degrees. Don\'t park nearby.

You can\'t go by that. There are huge stress multipliers when massive structures go off center.

That piece of junk will fall over before the stresses become too large.
The built no doubt matches the \"quality\" of the design.

The sad part is it\'s not even a really tall building. Losers in CA can\'t
even construct a simple building without messing up.


Handel Architects is a New York firm. The developer was Millennium
Partners, a New York firm.

I wish you incompetent yokels would leave us alone and not jam our
restaurants and beaches and ski towns.

That can be arranged if you stop sending your emigrants to other states!

I wonder... do you think it is Larkin himself that is driving everyone out of California? It reminds me of the cattle drives they used to have. LOL

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Rick C.

- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209
 
jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jan 2022 16:05:47 -0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
presence@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote:

Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, January 11, 2022 at 5:50:27 PM UTC-5, John Larkin wrote:
On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 04:01:30 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
It\'s going to take a total collapse before the moron politicians realize the moron engineers don\'t know what they\'re doing, and that the whole bunch of them are a waste of oxygen.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10384831/Ritzy-San-Francisco-condo-tower-leaning-26-INCHES.html

The tilt is now a terrifying 0.18 degrees. Don\'t park nearby.

You can\'t go by that. There are huge stress multipliers when massive structures go off center.

That piece of junk will fall over before the stresses become too large.
The built no doubt matches the \"quality\" of the design.

The sad part is it\'s not even a really tall building. Losers in CA can\'t
even construct a simple building without messing up.



Handel Architects is a New York firm. The developer was Millennium
Partners, a New York firm.

I wish you incompetent yokels would leave us alone and not jam our
restaurants and beaches and ski towns.

NYC design? Even worse. It took a Chicago firm to design the new trade
center building for NYC. They just don\'t know how to do stack steel and
concrete in a way that it doesn\'t topple over. Sounds like the clowns in
SF couldn\'t even try. The tallest self supporting structures designed in
NYC in the past 40 years are piles of trash bags.

50 stories and 600 feet was impressive, maybe 60 years ago. They could
have photocopied the plans of dozens of building that can suport their
own weight as a starting point, but no, had to fuck that up, starting
at the foundation.
 
On Wed, 12 Jan 2022 20:32:20 -0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
<presence@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote:

jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jan 2022 16:05:47 -0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
presence@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote:

Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, January 11, 2022 at 5:50:27 PM UTC-5, John Larkin wrote:
On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 04:01:30 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
It\'s going to take a total collapse before the moron politicians realize the moron engineers don\'t know what they\'re doing, and that the whole bunch of them are a waste of oxygen.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10384831/Ritzy-San-Francisco-condo-tower-leaning-26-INCHES.html

The tilt is now a terrifying 0.18 degrees. Don\'t park nearby.

You can\'t go by that. There are huge stress multipliers when massive structures go off center.

That piece of junk will fall over before the stresses become too large.
The built no doubt matches the \"quality\" of the design.

The sad part is it\'s not even a really tall building. Losers in CA can\'t
even construct a simple building without messing up.



Handel Architects is a New York firm. The developer was Millennium
Partners, a New York firm.

I wish you incompetent yokels would leave us alone and not jam our
restaurants and beaches and ski towns.

NYC design? Even worse. It took a Chicago firm to design the new trade
center building for NYC. They just don\'t know how to do stack steel and
concrete in a way that it doesn\'t topple over. Sounds like the clowns in
SF couldn\'t even try. The tallest self supporting structures designed in
NYC in the past 40 years are piles of trash bags.

50 stories and 600 feet was impressive, maybe 60 years ago. They could
have photocopied the plans of dozens of building that can suport their
own weight as a starting point, but no, had to fuck that up, starting
at the foundation.

They built it cheap. Concrete instead of steel, friction piles pounded
into mushy bay fill. It can probably be fixed.

An earthquake would be interesting. That fill goo tends to liquify.

https://archinect.imgix.net/uploads/wl/wlcuupbzh2adgoj6.jpg?fit=crop&auto=compress%2Cformat&w=514&dpr=2



--

If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties.
Francis Bacon
 
John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jan 2022 20:32:20 -0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
presence@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote:

jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jan 2022 16:05:47 -0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
presence@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote:

Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, January 11, 2022 at 5:50:27 PM UTC-5, John Larkin wrote:
On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 04:01:30 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
It\'s going to take a total collapse before the moron politicians realize the moron engineers don\'t know what they\'re doing, and that the whole bunch of them are a waste of oxygen.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10384831/Ritzy-San-Francisco-condo-tower-leaning-26-INCHES.html

The tilt is now a terrifying 0.18 degrees. Don\'t park nearby.

You can\'t go by that. There are huge stress multipliers when massive structures go off center.

That piece of junk will fall over before the stresses become too large.
The built no doubt matches the \"quality\" of the design.

The sad part is it\'s not even a really tall building. Losers in CA can\'t
even construct a simple building without messing up.



Handel Architects is a New York firm. The developer was Millennium
Partners, a New York firm.

I wish you incompetent yokels would leave us alone and not jam our
restaurants and beaches and ski towns.

NYC design? Even worse. It took a Chicago firm to design the new trade
center building for NYC. They just don\'t know how to do stack steel and
concrete in a way that it doesn\'t topple over. Sounds like the clowns in
SF couldn\'t even try. The tallest self supporting structures designed in
NYC in the past 40 years are piles of trash bags.

50 stories and 600 feet was impressive, maybe 60 years ago. They could
have photocopied the plans of dozens of building that can suport their
own weight as a starting point, but no, had to fuck that up, starting
at the foundation.



They built it cheap. Concrete instead of steel, friction piles pounded
into mushy bay fill. It can probably be fixed.

An earthquake would be interesting. That fill goo tends to liquify.

https://archinect.imgix.net/uploads/wl/wlcuupbzh2adgoj6.jpg?fit=crop&auto=compress%2Cformat&w=514&dpr=2

Hopefully it falls over soon, I want to see that.

NYC design + CA construction = recipe for total failure.
 
On Wed, 12 Jan 2022 22:31:22 -0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
<presence@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote:

John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jan 2022 20:32:20 -0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
presence@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote:

jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jan 2022 16:05:47 -0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
presence@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote:

Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, January 11, 2022 at 5:50:27 PM UTC-5, John Larkin wrote:
On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 04:01:30 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
It\'s going to take a total collapse before the moron politicians realize the moron engineers don\'t know what they\'re doing, and that the whole bunch of them are a waste of oxygen.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10384831/Ritzy-San-Francisco-condo-tower-leaning-26-INCHES.html

The tilt is now a terrifying 0.18 degrees. Don\'t park nearby.

You can\'t go by that. There are huge stress multipliers when massive structures go off center.

That piece of junk will fall over before the stresses become too large.
The built no doubt matches the \"quality\" of the design.

The sad part is it\'s not even a really tall building. Losers in CA can\'t
even construct a simple building without messing up.



Handel Architects is a New York firm. The developer was Millennium
Partners, a New York firm.

I wish you incompetent yokels would leave us alone and not jam our
restaurants and beaches and ski towns.

NYC design? Even worse. It took a Chicago firm to design the new trade
center building for NYC. They just don\'t know how to do stack steel and
concrete in a way that it doesn\'t topple over. Sounds like the clowns in
SF couldn\'t even try. The tallest self supporting structures designed in
NYC in the past 40 years are piles of trash bags.

50 stories and 600 feet was impressive, maybe 60 years ago. They could
have photocopied the plans of dozens of building that can suport their
own weight as a starting point, but no, had to fuck that up, starting
at the foundation.



They built it cheap. Concrete instead of steel, friction piles pounded
into mushy bay fill. It can probably be fixed.

An earthquake would be interesting. That fill goo tends to liquify.

https://archinect.imgix.net/uploads/wl/wlcuupbzh2adgoj6.jpg?fit=crop&auto=compress%2Cformat&w=514&dpr=2

Hopefully it falls over soon, I want to see that.

I wouldn\'t mind. It\'s just another boring glass box. But the tilt is
invisible, fraction of a degree, hardly the Leaning Tower of Pisa,
which is still standing. Similar problem.

It wouldn\'t shock me if lots of buildings lean more that than MT and
nobody notices. It just gets more hysteria.


NYC design + CA construction = recipe for total failure.

I suspect the construction was in compliance to the drawings. Nobody
has claimed otherwise.

There\'s nothing wrong with \"CA\" construction. My house (sitting on
bedrock!) is fine.


--

If a man will begin with certainties, he shall end with doubts,
but if he will be content to begin with doubts he shall end in certainties.
Francis Bacon
 
On Wed, 12 Jan 2022 17:15:53 -0800, John Larkin
<jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:

On Wed, 12 Jan 2022 22:31:22 -0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
presence@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote:

John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jan 2022 20:32:20 -0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
presence@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote:

jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jan 2022 16:05:47 -0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
presence@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote:

Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, January 11, 2022 at 5:50:27 PM UTC-5, John Larkin wrote:
On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 04:01:30 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
It\'s going to take a total collapse before the moron politicians realize the moron engineers don\'t know what they\'re doing, and that the whole bunch of them are a waste of oxygen.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10384831/Ritzy-San-Francisco-condo-tower-leaning-26-INCHES.html

The tilt is now a terrifying 0.18 degrees. Don\'t park nearby.

You can\'t go by that. There are huge stress multipliers when massive structures go off center.

That piece of junk will fall over before the stresses become too large.
The built no doubt matches the \"quality\" of the design.

The sad part is it\'s not even a really tall building. Losers in CA can\'t
even construct a simple building without messing up.



Handel Architects is a New York firm. The developer was Millennium
Partners, a New York firm.

I wish you incompetent yokels would leave us alone and not jam our
restaurants and beaches and ski towns.

NYC design? Even worse. It took a Chicago firm to design the new trade
center building for NYC. They just don\'t know how to do stack steel and
concrete in a way that it doesn\'t topple over. Sounds like the clowns in
SF couldn\'t even try. The tallest self supporting structures designed in
NYC in the past 40 years are piles of trash bags.

50 stories and 600 feet was impressive, maybe 60 years ago. They could
have photocopied the plans of dozens of building that can suport their
own weight as a starting point, but no, had to fuck that up, starting
at the foundation.



They built it cheap. Concrete instead of steel, friction piles pounded
into mushy bay fill. It can probably be fixed.

An earthquake would be interesting. That fill goo tends to liquify.

https://archinect.imgix.net/uploads/wl/wlcuupbzh2adgoj6.jpg?fit=crop&auto=compress%2Cformat&w=514&dpr=2

Hopefully it falls over soon, I want to see that.

I wouldn\'t mind. It\'s just another boring glass box. But the tilt is
invisible, fraction of a degree, hardly the Leaning Tower of Pisa,
which is still standing. Similar problem.

It wouldn\'t shock me if lots of buildings lean more that than MT and
nobody notices. It just gets more hysteria.



NYC design + CA construction = recipe for total failure.

I suspect the construction was in compliance to the drawings. Nobody
has claimed otherwise.

There\'s nothing wrong with \"CA\" construction. My house (sitting on
bedrock!) is fine.

Actually, downtown San Francisco is beautiful if you don\'t get too
close. 2 miles is about right.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/4kq008v3v2bhnce/DT1.jpg?raw=1

Hey, we just discovered this, under the Highland Avenue bridge over
the Bernal Cut.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/h7m7ibx0iqmgap8/Highland_Mural_1.jpg?raw=1

https://www.dropbox.com/s/eqrjv6p8l7w5g2q/Highland_Mural_2.jpg?raw=1




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I yam what I yam - Popeye
 
On Wednesday, January 12, 2022 at 6:59:57 PM UTC-8, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jan 2022 17:15:53 -0800, John Larkin
jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:

On Wed, 12 Jan 2022 22:31:22 -0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
pres...@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote:

John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jan 2022 20:32:20 -0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
pres...@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote:

jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jan 2022 16:05:47 -0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
pres...@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote:

Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tuesday, January 11, 2022 at 5:50:27 PM UTC-5, John Larkin wrote:
On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 04:01:30 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
It\'s going to take a total collapse before the moron politicians realize the moron engineers don\'t know what they\'re doing, and that the whole bunch of them are a waste of oxygen.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10384831/Ritzy-San-Francisco-condo-tower-leaning-26-INCHES.html

The tilt is now a terrifying 0.18 degrees. Don\'t park nearby.

You can\'t go by that. There are huge stress multipliers when massive structures go off center.

That piece of junk will fall over before the stresses become too large.
The built no doubt matches the \"quality\" of the design.

The sad part is it\'s not even a really tall building. Losers in CA can\'t
even construct a simple building without messing up.



Handel Architects is a New York firm. The developer was Millennium
Partners, a New York firm.

I wish you incompetent yokels would leave us alone and not jam our
restaurants and beaches and ski towns.

NYC design? Even worse. It took a Chicago firm to design the new trade
center building for NYC. They just don\'t know how to do stack steel and
concrete in a way that it doesn\'t topple over. Sounds like the clowns in
SF couldn\'t even try. The tallest self supporting structures designed in
NYC in the past 40 years are piles of trash bags.

50 stories and 600 feet was impressive, maybe 60 years ago. They could
have photocopied the plans of dozens of building that can suport their
own weight as a starting point, but no, had to fuck that up, starting
at the foundation.



They built it cheap. Concrete instead of steel, friction piles pounded
into mushy bay fill. It can probably be fixed.

An earthquake would be interesting. That fill goo tends to liquify.

https://archinect.imgix.net/uploads/wl/wlcuupbzh2adgoj6.jpg?fit=crop&auto=compress%2Cformat&w=514&dpr=2

Hopefully it falls over soon, I want to see that.

I wouldn\'t mind. It\'s just another boring glass box. But the tilt is
invisible, fraction of a degree, hardly the Leaning Tower of Pisa,
which is still standing. Similar problem.

It wouldn\'t shock me if lots of buildings lean more that than MT and
nobody notices. It just gets more hysteria.



NYC design + CA construction = recipe for total failure.

I suspect the construction was in compliance to the drawings. Nobody
has claimed otherwise.

There\'s nothing wrong with \"CA\" construction. My house (sitting on
bedrock!) is fine.
Actually, downtown San Francisco is beautiful if you don\'t get too
close. 2 miles is about right.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/4kq008v3v2bhnce/DT1.jpg?raw=1

Hey, we just discovered this, under the Highland Avenue bridge over
the Bernal Cut.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/h7m7ibx0iqmgap8/Highland_Mural_1.jpg?raw=1

https://www.dropbox.com/s/eqrjv6p8l7w5g2q/Highland_Mural_2.jpg?raw=1
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I yam what I yam - Popeye

That pretty much depends upon what you call beautiful. Steel, glass and concrete doesn\'t fall into that category, but if that is all you know, then it must be.
 

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