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John Larkin

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Up here in the country, I see a lot of motor boats parked in
driveways. I suspect that most are seldom or never used.

I got curious about cost. Seems like a dinky outboard motor costs
$1000, and some are $8K or $25K or even $45K. And a serious speed
freak will hang three on the stern.

I can envision some domestic discord.



--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc trk

The cork popped merrily, and Lord Peter rose to his feet.
\"Bunter\", he said, \"I give you a toast. The triumph of Instinct over Reason\"
 
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Bill Martin

Guest
On 9/9/20 10:59 AM, John Larkin wrote:
Up here in the country, I see a lot of motor boats parked in
driveways. I suspect that most are seldom or never used.

I got curious about cost. Seems like a dinky outboard motor costs
$1000, and some are $8K or $25K or even $45K. And a serious speed
freak will hang three on the stern.

I can envision some domestic discord.
You do know that the classic definition of \"boat\" is a hole in the water
which you pour money into...
 
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Edward Lee

Guest
On Wednesday, September 9, 2020 at 11:50:01 AM UTC-7, Bill Martin wrote:
On 9/9/20 10:59 AM, John Larkin wrote:

Up here in the country, I see a lot of motor boats parked in
driveways. I suspect that most are seldom or never used.

I got curious about cost. Seems like a dinky outboard motor costs
$1000, and some are $8K or $25K or even $45K. And a serious speed
freak will hang three on the stern.

I can envision some domestic discord.



You do know that the classic definition of \"boat\" is a hole in the water
which you pour money into...
Or a Tesla on water. Status symbol.
 
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Bill Martin

Guest
On 9/9/20 11:58 AM, Edward Lee wrote:
On Wednesday, September 9, 2020 at 11:50:01 AM UTC-7, Bill Martin wrote:
On 9/9/20 10:59 AM, John Larkin wrote:

Up here in the country, I see a lot of motor boats parked in
driveways. I suspect that most are seldom or never used.

I got curious about cost. Seems like a dinky outboard motor costs
$1000, and some are $8K or $25K or even $45K. And a serious speed
freak will hang three on the stern.

I can envision some domestic discord.



You do know that the classic definition of \"boat\" is a hole in the water
which you pour money into...

Or a Tesla on water. Status symbol.
I think you have something there...next Musk product will be an electric
submarine...oops, it\'s been done already!
 
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Edward Lee

Guest
On Wednesday, September 9, 2020 at 12:05:53 PM UTC-7, Bill Martin wrote:
On 9/9/20 11:58 AM, Edward Lee wrote:
On Wednesday, September 9, 2020 at 11:50:01 AM UTC-7, Bill Martin wrote:
On 9/9/20 10:59 AM, John Larkin wrote:

Up here in the country, I see a lot of motor boats parked in
driveways. I suspect that most are seldom or never used.

I got curious about cost. Seems like a dinky outboard motor costs
$1000, and some are $8K or $25K or even $45K. And a serious speed
freak will hang three on the stern.

I can envision some domestic discord.



You do know that the classic definition of \"boat\" is a hole in the water
which you pour money into...

Or a Tesla on water. Status symbol.

I think you have something there...next Musk product will be an electric
submarine...oops, it\'s been done already!
Well, Musk will be ordered to make military vehicles/boat/submarine for CCP. Otherwise, his factory will simply be communized.
 
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Edward Lee

Guest
On Wednesday, September 9, 2020 at 12:59:06 PM UTC-7, Edward Lee wrote:
On Wednesday, September 9, 2020 at 12:05:53 PM UTC-7, Bill Martin wrote:
On 9/9/20 11:58 AM, Edward Lee wrote:
On Wednesday, September 9, 2020 at 11:50:01 AM UTC-7, Bill Martin wrote:
On 9/9/20 10:59 AM, John Larkin wrote:

Up here in the country, I see a lot of motor boats parked in
driveways. I suspect that most are seldom or never used.

I got curious about cost. Seems like a dinky outboard motor costs
$1000, and some are $8K or $25K or even $45K. And a serious speed
freak will hang three on the stern.

I can envision some domestic discord.



You do know that the classic definition of \"boat\" is a hole in the water
which you pour money into...

Or a Tesla on water. Status symbol.

I think you have something there...next Musk product will be an electric
submarine...oops, it\'s been done already!
Well, Musk will be ordered to make military vehicles/boat/submarine for CCP. Otherwise, his factory will simply be communized.
Oh, and ICBM targeting his home in California.
 
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John S

Guest
On 9/9/2020 2:05 PM, Bill Martin wrote:
On 9/9/20 11:58 AM, Edward Lee wrote:
On Wednesday, September 9, 2020 at 11:50:01 AM UTC-7, Bill Martin wrote:
On 9/9/20 10:59 AM, John Larkin wrote:

Up here in the country, I see a lot of motor boats parked in
driveways. I suspect that most are seldom or never used.

I got curious about cost. Seems like a dinky outboard motor costs
$1000, and some are $8K or $25K or even $45K. And a serious speed
freak will hang three on the stern.

I can envision some domestic discord.



You do know that the classic definition of \"boat\" is a hole in the water
which you pour money into...

Or a Tesla on water.  Status symbol.

I think you have something there...next Musk product will be an electric
submarine...oops, it\'s been done already!
Yeah. Drug runners have been using them.
 
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legg

Guest
On Wed, 9 Sep 2020 12:05:44 -0700, Bill Martin <wwm@wwmartin.net>
wrote:

On 9/9/20 11:58 AM, Edward Lee wrote:
On Wednesday, September 9, 2020 at 11:50:01 AM UTC-7, Bill Martin wrote:
On 9/9/20 10:59 AM, John Larkin wrote:

Up here in the country, I see a lot of motor boats parked in
driveways. I suspect that most are seldom or never used.

I got curious about cost. Seems like a dinky outboard motor costs
$1000, and some are $8K or $25K or even $45K. And a serious speed
freak will hang three on the stern.

I can envision some domestic discord.



You do know that the classic definition of \"boat\" is a hole in the water
which you pour money into...

Or a Tesla on water. Status symbol.

I think you have something there...next Musk product will be an electric
submarine...oops, it\'s been done already!
So was the electric car.

RL
 
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John Larkin

Guest
On Wed, 9 Sep 2020 11:49:53 -0700, Bill Martin <wwm@wwmartin.net>
wrote:

On 9/9/20 10:59 AM, John Larkin wrote:

Up here in the country, I see a lot of motor boats parked in
driveways. I suspect that most are seldom or never used.

I got curious about cost. Seems like a dinky outboard motor costs
$1000, and some are $8K or $25K or even $45K. And a serious speed
freak will hang three on the stern.

I can envision some domestic discord.



You do know that the classic definition of \"boat\" is a hole in the water
which you pour money into...
\"Why buy a sailboat when you can throw your money directly into the
water?\"
--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc trk

The cork popped merrily, and Lord Peter rose to his feet.
\"Bunter\", he said, \"I give you a toast. The triumph of Instinct over Reason\"
 
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Lasse Langwadt Christensen

Guest
onsdag den 9. september 2020 kl. 23.55.36 UTC+2 skrev John Larkin:
On Wed, 9 Sep 2020 11:49:53 -0700, Bill Martin <wwm@wwmartin.net
wrote:

On 9/9/20 10:59 AM, John Larkin wrote:

Up here in the country, I see a lot of motor boats parked in
driveways. I suspect that most are seldom or never used.

I got curious about cost. Seems like a dinky outboard motor costs
$1000, and some are $8K or $25K or even $45K. And a serious speed
freak will hang three on the stern.

I can envision some domestic discord.



You do know that the classic definition of \"boat\" is a hole in the water
which you pour money into...

\"Why buy a sailboat when you can throw your money directly into the
water?\"
in many places having a sailboat has the bonus that you\'ll be wet and
cold while doing it
 
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Chris

Guest
On Thursday, 10 September 2020 08:05:58 UTC+10, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
onsdag den 9. september 2020 kl. 23.55.36 UTC+2 skrev John Larkin:
On Wed, 9 Sep 2020 11:49:53 -0700, Bill Martin <wwm@wwmartin.net
wrote:

On 9/9/20 10:59 AM, John Larkin wrote:

Up here in the country, I see a lot of motor boats parked in
driveways. I suspect that most are seldom or never used.

I got curious about cost. Seems like a dinky outboard motor costs
$1000, and some are $8K or $25K or even $45K. And a serious speed
freak will hang three on the stern.

I can envision some domestic discord.



You do know that the classic definition of \"boat\" is a hole in the water
which you pour money into...

\"Why buy a sailboat when you can throw your money directly into the
water?\"

in many places having a sailboat has the bonus that you\'ll be wet and
cold while doing it
The primary two high point milestones of owning a boat?

1. Buying it
2. Selling it

--
Cheers,
Chris.
 
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Dean Hoffman

Guest
On 9/9/20 12:59 PM, John Larkin wrote:
Up here in the country, I see a lot of motor boats parked in
driveways. I suspect that most are seldom or never used.

I got curious about cost. Seems like a dinky outboard motor costs
$1000, and some are $8K or $25K or even $45K. And a serious speed
freak will hang three on the stern.

I can envision some domestic discord.
RVs might go on that list too. I\'ve had motorcycles for years so
I can\'t holler too loud.
There\'s that admonition in Matthew about the speck and beam.
 
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Dean Hoffman

Guest
On 9/9/20 8:06 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
On 9/9/20 12:59 PM, John Larkin wrote:

Up here in the country, I see a lot of motor boats parked in
driveways. I suspect that most are seldom or never used.

I got curious about cost. Seems like a dinky outboard motor costs
$1000, and some are $8K or $25K or even $45K. And a serious speed
freak will hang three on the stern.

I can envision some domestic discord.

     RVs might go on that list too.  I\'ve had motorcycles for years so
I can\'t holler too loud.
   There\'s that admonition in Matthew about the speck and beam.
I forgot. There\'s an old saying that the only difference between
men and boys is the price of our toys.
 
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George Herold

Guest
On Wednesday, September 9, 2020 at 1:59:46 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
Up here in the country, I see a lot of motor boats parked in
driveways. I suspect that most are seldom or never used.

I got curious about cost. Seems like a dinky outboard motor costs
$1000, and some are $8K or $25K or even $45K. And a serious speed
freak will hang three on the stern.

I can envision some domestic discord.
My brother bought a used 15\' motor boat for ~$2.5k
Used for fishing andd beer drinking with the boys.
(no girls allowed. :^)

George H.
--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc trk

The cork popped merrily, and Lord Peter rose to his feet.
\"Bunter\", he said, \"I give you a toast. The triumph of Instinct over Reason\"
 
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John Larkin

Guest
On Thu, 10 Sep 2020 08:21:09 -0700 (PDT), George Herold
<ggherold@gmail.com> wrote:

On Wednesday, September 9, 2020 at 1:59:46 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
Up here in the country, I see a lot of motor boats parked in
driveways. I suspect that most are seldom or never used.

I got curious about cost. Seems like a dinky outboard motor costs
$1000, and some are $8K or $25K or even $45K. And a serious speed
freak will hang three on the stern.

I can envision some domestic discord.
My brother bought a used 15\' motor boat for ~$2.5k
Used for fishing andd beer drinking with the boys.
(no girls allowed. :^)

George H.
I used to have a half-interest in a 24\' wooden sailboat, marina\'d in
Lake Pontchartrain. Girls were the main point.


--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc trk

The cork popped merrily, and Lord Peter rose to his feet.
\"Bunter\", he said, \"I give you a toast. The triumph of Instinct over Reason\"
 
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George Herold

Guest
On Thursday, September 10, 2020 at 11:51:11 AM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
On Thu, 10 Sep 2020 08:21:09 -0700 (PDT), George Herold
ggherold@gmail.com> wrote:

On Wednesday, September 9, 2020 at 1:59:46 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
Up here in the country, I see a lot of motor boats parked in
driveways. I suspect that most are seldom or never used.

I got curious about cost. Seems like a dinky outboard motor costs
$1000, and some are $8K or $25K or even $45K. And a serious speed
freak will hang three on the stern.

I can envision some domestic discord.
My brother bought a used 15\' motor boat for ~$2.5k
Used for fishing andd beer drinking with the boys.
(no girls allowed. :^)

George H.

I used to have a half-interest in a 24\' wooden sailboat, marina\'d in
Lake Pontchartrain. Girls were the main point.
I\'ve got a little sunfish sailboat...
yeah girls are more than welcome. :^)

Still three men in a boat with poles and beer can
be a great time*. I caught a nice sized walleye in
Silver lake, my $25 dollar fish. ($25 is the cost of
the fishing licence.)
George H.

*There was one summer ~1990 where I was only working part time
and many days were spent out on lake Erie with \'the codger\'
(family friend) and my old man. The codger was a good fisherman.
Dad and me, not so much so.

--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc trk

The cork popped merrily, and Lord Peter rose to his feet.
\"Bunter\", he said, \"I give you a toast. The triumph of Instinct over Reason\"
 
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Phil Hobbs

Guest
On 2020-09-10 11:21, George Herold wrote:
On Wednesday, September 9, 2020 at 1:59:46 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
Up here in the country, I see a lot of motor boats parked in
driveways. I suspect that most are seldom or never used.

I got curious about cost. Seems like a dinky outboard motor costs
$1000, and some are $8K or $25K or even $45K. And a serious speed
freak will hang three on the stern.

I can envision some domestic discord.
My brother bought a used 15\' motor boat for ~$2.5k
Used for fishing andd beer drinking with the boys.
(no girls allowed. :^)
Yeah, with a fibreglass boat you can keep it looking nice for decades.
My Hobie 16 was 20 years old when I bought it for $1200 and 29 when I
sold it on eBay for $1k. (I did buy a swoopy new trailer for $750 and a
new trampoline for $150, so my TCO was about $120 per year not counting
boatyard space.)

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

http://electrooptical.net
http://hobbs-eo.com
 
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George Herold

Guest
On Thursday, September 10, 2020 at 1:59:25 PM UTC-4, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 2020-09-10 11:21, George Herold wrote:
On Wednesday, September 9, 2020 at 1:59:46 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
Up here in the country, I see a lot of motor boats parked in
driveways. I suspect that most are seldom or never used.

I got curious about cost. Seems like a dinky outboard motor costs
$1000, and some are $8K or $25K or even $45K. And a serious speed
freak will hang three on the stern.

I can envision some domestic discord.
My brother bought a used 15\' motor boat for ~$2.5k
Used for fishing andd beer drinking with the boys.
(no girls allowed. :^)


Yeah, with a fibreglass boat you can keep it looking nice for decades.
My Hobie 16 was 20 years old when I bought it for $1200 and 29 when I
sold it on eBay for $1k. (I did buy a swoopy new trailer for $750 and a
new trampoline for $150, so my TCO was about $120 per year not counting
boatyard space.)
Yeah, My bro\'s boat is a ~40 yr old aluminum Lund.
I helped him rip up some of the floor boards to look
at the leaking gas tank... left in place. (not used)

Hobie 16! I\'ve never sailed a catamaran.
The fun part of a small sailboat is enough
wind to sail along the \'edge\'.

George H.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

http://electrooptical.net
http://hobbs-eo.com
 
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Phil Hobbs

Guest
On 2020-09-10 16:28, George Herold wrote:
On Thursday, September 10, 2020 at 1:59:25 PM UTC-4, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 2020-09-10 11:21, George Herold wrote:
On Wednesday, September 9, 2020 at 1:59:46 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
Up here in the country, I see a lot of motor boats parked in
driveways. I suspect that most are seldom or never used.

I got curious about cost. Seems like a dinky outboard motor costs
$1000, and some are $8K or $25K or even $45K. And a serious speed
freak will hang three on the stern.

I can envision some domestic discord.
My brother bought a used 15\' motor boat for ~$2.5k
Used for fishing andd beer drinking with the boys.
(no girls allowed. :^)


Yeah, with a fibreglass boat you can keep it looking nice for decades.
My Hobie 16 was 20 years old when I bought it for $1200 and 29 when I
sold it on eBay for $1k. (I did buy a swoopy new trailer for $750 and a
new trampoline for $150, so my TCO was about $120 per year not counting
boatyard space.)
Yeah, My bro\'s boat is a ~40 yr old aluminum Lund.
I helped him rip up some of the floor boards to look
at the leaking gas tank... left in place. (not used)

Hobie 16! I\'ve never sailed a catamaran.
The fun part of a small sailboat is enough
wind to sail along the \'edge\'.

George H.
Hobies are great fun, but they don\'t tack too well--there\'s way more
side slip than in a keel boat. I could have spend more money and got a
Prindle with daggerboards, which would have sailed upwind much better,
but I wanted my kids to be able to run it up on a shingle beach without
sinking it.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs
--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

http://electrooptical.net
http://hobbs-eo.com
 
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Ricketty C

Guest
On Wednesday, September 9, 2020 at 1:59:46 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
Up here in the country, I see a lot of motor boats parked in
driveways. I suspect that most are seldom or never used.

I got curious about cost. Seems like a dinky outboard motor costs
$1000, and some are $8K or $25K or even $45K. And a serious speed
freak will hang three on the stern.

I can envision some domestic discord.
Motors are not cheap. The typical pattern for boats is they get used a lot the first year. Second year not as much. Third year even less. But it certainly depends on the owner and the situation. Even if a boat is used every other weekend, that\'s still relatively not very often compared to using your car every day.

It\'s not entirely unlike the way some people only use their brains every third day.

I wonder what makes you think the boat isn\'t a route to domestic tranquility? When the motor is roaring pulling a skier there\'s not much to argue about.

Heck, I was out just last weekend on my neighbor\'s boat with some 8 or 9 other people, a party barge. You won\'t see it parked in a driveway. It sits in the water all the time unless it is roaring.

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Rick C.

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